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iPhone 5

Man does the new phone look boring and same old, same old.

Now to see how far HTC pushes the ITC...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/10/apple_htc_patent/
For those that don't want to click, HTC is seeking to ban the iPhone 5 in the US due to the fact that HTC owns 2 patents relating to connecting a device to a 4G or LTE network.
Realistically, they'll probably just use it as leverage against Apple for something else rather than have an all out ban on importing the devices; but it will be interesting to see the result.
For the phone specifically...I agree *yawn*. 4 inch screen, big deal. 5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.

Sammy is also gonna strike at apple with its 12% of the world's LTE patents
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liquidzoo said:
Now to see how far HTC pushes the ITC...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/10/apple_htc_patent/
For those that don't want to click, HTC is seeking to ban the iPhone 5 in the US due to the fact that HTC owns 2 patents relating to connecting a device to a 4G or LTE network.
Realistically, they'll probably just use it as leverage against Apple for something else rather than have an all out ban on importing the devices; but it will be interesting to see the result.
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I hope HTC/Samsung sue the heck out of Apple for how they've been acting.
liquidzoo said:
For the phone specifically...I agree *yawn*. 4 inch screen, big deal. 5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.
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I know, oh god. It's basically a 4 inch iPhone 4s.

It's a piece of crap. Iphone 5 can't even be compared to Skyrocket, no way it would match up with S3 or Note 2 :laugh: Only Ifans would consider this icrap as an "evolution".

liquidzoo said:
...5 icon rows, whoopie... Absolutely nothing new in that department.
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Whoopie? Really? 5 icon rows may seem like no big thing to you but I'll have you know that Apple has a patent on the number "5". So nobody has the right to use 5's without Apple's permission.
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Locoman_ said:
Whoopie? Really? 5 icon rows may seem like no big thing to you but I'll have you know that Apple has a patent on the number "5". So nobody has the right to use 5's without Apple's permission.
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:laugh:

You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.

aycockonxion said:
You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.
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It is, it's just an iPhone 4s xl with lte
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In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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aycockonxion said:
You guys are cracking me up. Like it's actually a bad device or something.
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How is it a good device is there something innovative or revolutionary
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orlandoxpolice said:
In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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According to the articles I've read about the HTC case the only thing they've done (for that specific case) is ask the judge to invalidate the patents...

Not much changed since 4S, but people will buy it anyway.

Kenneth.Torres said:
It is, it's just an iPhone 4s xl with lte
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And an A6 processor. And a much better camera. And a different design. And a different connector.
And so.. how is it just like an iPhone 4S? Aside from the little silver picture of an apple on the back..
Seriously you guys.

That's it though, its faster and and has a better camera. That is expected from new phones. Nothing is exciting about the new iPhone.
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Skillfulshoe said:
That's it though, its faster and and has a better camera. That is expected from new phones. Nothing is exciting about the new iPhone.
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And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.

aycockonxion said:
And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.
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I was left depressed by the s3 actually I want MOAR POWAH
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orlandoxpolice said:
In b4 thread gets locked.
I would have to think apple has taken into account the lte threats and has side stepped the patents in a sneaky way.
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And the S3 just blew everyone's socks off.
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Agreed, the S3 was the same. nothing exciting

I was a little late to the smart phone era. The main thing that got me to the iPhone a while back was the fact that you could jailbreak it. At the time, in my opinion, and personal knowledge, Apple iOS had the apps and the features that I wanted in my professional and personal life. Since then, the manufactures, developers and community like this forum have taken the high end android based phones far pass anything Apple could put out. I want to break my phone so I can get a SIII or something just to keep testing out all the awesome things coming out. Keep up the work guys!

Illnevertell said:
I was left depressed by the s3 actually I want MOAR POWAH
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I'm givin' her all she's got, Cap'n!
But seriously, when (if?) there's an S4, it really does need to be a significant upgrade from the S3. Why spend all that money for a new phone just to get a little bit more RAM, a little bit faster processor, and a few other very minute improvements? I was ready to sell my SR to get an S3 just before they announced it, but I decided not too because it was so underwhelming. Based on today and *trying to be a reasonable individual* I think that, compared to the jump from SR to S3, the iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 is a pretty good upgrade.

[Q] What the fudge is up with the companies?

Ok now when the s3 came out, every single major case company released their cases for it within its first week. WTF!! i havent seen any major company release anyThing for the Nexus 4, WHY?? The problem I see is that how is the company that develops Android, how is it that there flagship phone is not getting as much attention as samsungs or apples? ****ing Propganda Bull****!

The nexus 4 isn't available in retail stores, that's why

I know how you feel but that's the way marketing research goes. Did you know that Apple device's third party accessories are already available as early as its debut?
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Though It sounds like a big hit here in this nerd forum,
no one else know what a Nexus 4 is.
This is why no companies care about it.

I'm sure one of the main reasons is probably that not many people have it yet. For whatever reason the stock of the phone in the play store has been so low.

Uh, the Galaxy S III is on every major carrier in the US and there is an international version. It was going to sell tens of millions no matter what. That's why there are cases for it. The Nexus 4 will never have anything even remotely close to the GSIII with regards to accessories, even if it sells ten million, which it won't. If the Nexus 4 does extremely well, then maybe the nexus 5 will have a bunch . . . .
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Already stated but gsiii sold like 5M phones in 2 mos, n4 will probably sell 100K in 2mos, for the case makers it's a no brainer.

muyoso said:
Uh, the Galaxy S III is on every major carrier in the US and there is an international version. It was going to sell tens of millions no matter what. That's why there are cases for it. The Nexus 4 will never have anything even remotely close to the GSIII with regards to accessories, even if it sells ten million, which it won't. If the Nexus 4 does extremely well, then maybe the nexus 5 will have a bunch . . . .
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Nexus 4 already did extremely well, if Google/LG have enough inventory to meet the demand.
So the problem is not Nexus 4, but Google.
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richteralan said:
Nexus 4 already did extremely well, if Google/LG have enough inventory to meet the demand.
So the problem is not Nexus 4, but Google.
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We don't know how many units they actually sold though. I am sure if it was anywhere near a million or so units though they would have announced something by now.

richteralan said:
Nexus 4 already did extremely well, if Google/LG have enough inventory to meet the demand.
So the problem is not Nexus 4, but Google.
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LG*

svengalis said:
We don't know how many units they actually sold though. I am sure if it was anywhere near a million or so units though they would have announced something by now.
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The demand is there. Of course not as much as S3 but hey, you see a Samsung ads every 5 seconds.
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FaDeGFX said:
LG*
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Google*

FaDeGFX said:
Ok now when the s3 came out, every single major case company released their cases for it within its first week. WTF!! i havent seen any major company release anyThing for the Nexus 4, WHY?? The problem I see is that how is the company that develops Android, how is it that there flagship phone is not getting as much attention as samsungs or apples? ****ing Propganda Bull****!
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According to some of the vendors, Google did not release any information to them in regards to specs etc.... This is why we didn't see any leaks from case companies like we normally do. This is also why we're waiting now because they had to start from scratch when it launched.
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I see an SIII commercial at least once a day. Google has yet to advertise the N4 other than YouTube videos. That's why.

Also, I think a few big case makers have said they are going to make something, no?

abe in space said:
Google*
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lol you honestly think its the software producers fault not Hardware MANUFACTURER?

FaDeGFX said:
lol you honestly think its the software producers fault not Hardware MANUFACTURER?
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Google engineers played a huge part in designing the N4.
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I heard from someone that Google didn't give any pre-release phones out to case manufacturers before launch. That would definitely explain the lack of case options. Also, the lack of stock on the phone is probably not helping case manufacturers get their hands on a device.
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I dont think this is a matter of blaming someone, its just google being to secretive with their Nexus line, and manufacturers have no idea how to roll out with nexus. I am sure we will hear something sooner or later....I really want the Case mate pop case!

S4 looks like 15k Micromax or Lava phones. Nothing like 41.5 k

So many shopkeepers Samsung shops. in Delhi and NCR and punjab now boldly describing S4 as a flop set.
Because from sharp back it's looks like cheap range Samsung phones like Galaxy grand or local phones like Micromax Canvas.
White is much more like cheap phones.
Now people realising that Note 2 was much more nice.
Really just look in mirror it's looks while calling
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95 % users buy phone for looks these days.
Other 5 %user also don't need this much power like octa core or display more than 720
Mostly people don't even notice or recognise looks of S4.
I feel very disappointing
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Sell it.

Thank you for sharing this with the group.

Yes I am waiting for HTC one
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I just looked in the mirror while making a call. You're right it looks cheap.
I'm gonna sell it immediately.

deepforest said:
Yes I am waiting for HTC one
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Than put a f#cking TPU case around it and your HTC one looks like any other phone..
Well have fun with that chippin aluminium! Better don't drop it then you wish you had a S4 easy to repair!
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You people are joking right? First of all buy a case you can make it look anyway you want. Second of all WHY would you care about how expensive somebody thinks your phone is. Of course it's nicer if it looks just as expensive as it is but i think it really says something about you as a person that you would sell your phone for that.
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Buy an iPhone you seem brand and image conscious.
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Sure but i think that if it's really so important to you than it should be the first thing you look for in a phone not something you would find out after you bought it.
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deepforest said:
So many shopkeepers Samsung shops. in Delhi and NCR and punjab now boldly describing S4 as a flop set.
Because from sharp back it's looks like cheap range Samsung phones like Galaxy grand or local phones like Micromax Canvas.
White is much more like cheap phones.
Now people realising that Note 2 was much more nice.
Really just look in mirror it's looks while calling
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Seriously, you just realized this AFTER buying the phone? I didn't buy Note II thinking it was a gorgeous looking phone coming from an HOX. Don't you like get to look at the display models before buying? Or at least watch videos or something?
And oh, S4 is MUCH nicer than S3/Note II. And I'm not even planning to switch to S4.

Oh, sh!t, status symbol blown!
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If u see mostly all models of Galaxy range and other touch screen Samsung smartphone.
Mostly looks same only size sometimes different
Or just place camera or flash or speaker hole differently
Samsung have very least creative designer department
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Apple also use similar designs. But why to follow their footprint
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I buy online coz I am so much gadgets addict.
I mean that if I spent 41k Indian Rupees why it's looks like same cheap mobiles
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tuxonhtc said:
Seriously, you just realized this AFTER buying the phone? I didn't buy Note II thinking it was a gorgeous looking phone coming from an HOX. Don't you like get to look at the display models before buying? Or at least watch videos or something?
And oh, S4 is MUCH nicer than S3/Note II. And I'm not even planning to switch to S4.
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I just buy online and when I received my white s4. I feel so disappointed coz white looks so much like previous phones from backside.
As black looks little more premium.
But overall it's bad design.
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Return it back your clearly not happy with your purchase. Get something else if it bothers you that much on the way it looks simple.
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deepforest said:
95 % users buy phone for looks these days.
Other 5 %user also don't need this much power like octa core or display more than 720
Mostly people don't even notice or recognise looks of S4.
I feel very disappointing
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You are disappointing bro.

Apple understood human nature long time ago and Samsung will follow soon enough. Most people will (over)pay for something as long as it can convey the impression of themselves as exclusive. No feature is as valuable as the mass appeal. Appearance and publicity are the new God. Welcome to the Matrix
It seems I took the wrong pills today

deepforest said:
I just buy online and when I received my white s4. I feel so disappointed coz white looks so much like previous phones from backside.
As black looks little more premium.
But overall it's bad design.
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So before even watching the videos or looking at any pics, you ordered the device? What'd you expect exactly? Entirely your fault for not doing your research.
Either way, it seems more "premium" than S3/Note II to me personally. Don't like the design? Buy a back cover or shouldn't have even ordered it in the first place. Get an HTC One and be happy with it. Or an iPhone.

Anybody planning on selling their S4's for iphone 5S

There seems to be a few people on other forums i visit that are selling their S4's for an iphone 5S, maybe because of KNOX or they just bored with android or something & the size of it.
I've had a hold of the iphone 5S, and while i do think it's a good little device, i don't think i would be tempted to part with the S4 for it.
I mean £629 for an iPhone 5S 32gb, you can get a Note 3 for less, but each to their own.
So how many on here are planning of getting shut of their S4's for an iphone 5S.

i m definitely not getting an iphone 5s as imho it doesn t bring major changes from the iphone 5 but i actually love the ios 7 so i will keep an eye on the iphone 6. for now i m more excited about the nexus 5 .
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ixon2001 said:
There seems to be a few people on other forums i visit that are selling their S4's for an iphone 5S, maybe because of KNOX or they just bored with android or something & the size of it.
I've had a hold of the iphone 5S, and while i do think it's a good little device, i don't think i would be tempted to part with the S4 for it.
I mean £629 for an iPhone 5S 32gb, you can get a Note 3 for less, but each to their own.
So how many on here are planning of getting shut of their S4's for an iphone 5S.
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I will sell my s4

I already jump to G2...
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I'd only sell my S4 for a Nexus 5. Not even sure if i'll do that

for an i5S??... NO WAY!!
i'll buy a Xiaomi Mi3, and will give my S4 to my mom.
and she will give me back my i5 and maybe i sell it.

For i5s? No fkn way!! But for note 3 yeeees!!
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i don't want to waste my money to buy iphone 5s..i'm rather buy Xiaomi phone or Note 3 if i sell my S4..
if i buy iphone 5s/c it just for basic phone only.

ixon2001 said:
There seems to be a few people on other forums i visit that are selling their S4's for an iphone 5S, maybe because of KNOX or they just bored with android or something & the size of it.
I've had a hold of the iphone 5S, and while i do think it's a good little device, i don't think i would be tempted to part with the S4 for it.
I mean £629 for an iPhone 5S 32gb, you can get a Note 3 for less, but each to their own.
So how many on here are planning of getting shut of their S4's for an iphone 5S.
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You have lost your mind? Who wants a phone that's named after a fruit.

I think anybody want a down grade
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Every iproduct sucks balls!! Why pay so much for a device and then after that rent everything that goes into it? No thanks I'll keep my s4

Lol no way to a ip5s bit nexus 5 I will probably jump ship to mainly because of the vanilla android experience. Sick of the bloat now with samsung and now its becoming a pain to root. If I wanted their ****e app store and tripadvisor id install it myself. My device so I should choose wots on it
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I'd rather have someone pull my eyeballs out than use an Apple device.

No icrap
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Never ever .
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Buying a newer Android device makes sense to me ... replacing it with Iphone doesn't except if someone never used an iOS device and want to give it a try or he did the same for Androd and didn't like it .. or just to show off with latest popular device ...

I'd be surprised to hear many people jump ship on this forum... just way too many restrictions and disadvantages imo using an apple device.
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Had an iPhone 4. Never again. Maybe a nexus 5.
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HELLS NOOO!!!
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I already have an iphone 5 so no, but even if i didnt have one i wouldn't sell my s4 to buy a Iphone5s
If i sold my S4 it would be for something like the Xperia Z1 or the next Galaxy S or maybe the LG G2, actual upgrades
I like iphones but as secondary phones
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14 Day Return Window - G3?

Curious what everyone thinks about the new LG G3 and whether or not you'd trade your M8 in for it if you were within the 14 Day Return Window.
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Sense is too awesome to pass on.
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Breezer23 said:
Curious what everyone thinks about the new LG G3 and whether or not you'd trade your M8 in for it if you were within the 14 Day Return Window.
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G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.

I agree!!

If the G3 were to get rooted and bootloader unlocked, I might consider it. Otherwise, no chance.

BadUsername said:
G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.
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That "better" screen on the G3 is actually the cause of most of the cons you listed. It kills the battery and causes the phone to lag from the extra work it has to do to render it. The general consensus seems to be that the screen is actually the biggest fault in the phone, and a good 1080p screen could have made it perfect.
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Yeah. Not sure what the need is for such a high res screen on a cell phone.
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Yeah. Not sure what the need is for such a high res screen on a cell phone.
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I said the same about the 1080 screen, here I am now . The G3 screen is absolutely gorgeous.
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TheBiles said:
That "better" screen on the G3 is actually the cause of most of the cons you listed. It kills the battery and causes the phone to lag from the extra work it has to do to render it. The general consensus seems to be that the screen is actually the biggest fault in the phone, and a good 1080p screen could have made it perfect.
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That was something I was aware of, power hungry screen = hot phone, less battery. Definitely not needed, but the resolution is a huge selling point for them. They wouldn't be able to get as many sales with the same quality screen as the S5 or M8. Samsung would wipe them clear off the map.

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That was something I was aware of, power hungry screen = hot phone, less battery. Definitely not needed, but the resolution is a huge selling point for them. They wouldn't be able to get as many sales with the same quality screen as the S5 or M8. Samsung would wipe them clear off the map.
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That's pretty bad if you get wiped off the map by samsung. Haha. Only thing good at Samsung r there TV's. ?
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Sorry to go off topic. But I seen that Sony has unlockable bootloaders rt thru there own site...I wonder if VZW has enough pull with Sony like HTC to force sony to not allow VZW Sony devices to be unlocked ...as I seen that new Sony pad coming to VZW an I must say Sony ui is very nice an real fast an smooth. Does anyone know?
Also because you can Now as of yesterday use the edge to get pads from VZW..
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Tigerstown said:
That's pretty bad if you get wiped off the map by samsung. Haha. Only thing good at Samsung r there TV's.
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You do realize Samsung Android devices account for the majority of all Android devices? Which is unfortunate, because they suck, but saying "You suck if you got beat by Samsung" is pretty inane.

A buddy just got the T-Mobile LG3 and we ran some benchmarks. Granted, this phone is 100% stock and I'm running GPE (not OC'd) on the M8 but he scored 22100 in Quad and I scored 24500. He scored 32000 in Antu and I scored 34000.
The LG3 is just a little too big for my taste. I have never owned an LG phone but my M7 was my first HTC. Was all Samsung before that. I'm sticking with my M8 until the M9 comes out and has S-Off.

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You do realize Samsung Android devices account for the majority of all Android devices? Which is unfortunate, because they suck, but saying "You suck if you got beat by Samsung" is pretty inane.
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Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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Tigerstown said:
Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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Some people can't afford high end smart phones
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Yeah well, Samsung sells millions and millions of those cheap, crappy phones per year.
Clearly there is a market for them.

Tigerstown said:
Walk into a bs phone company pre paid. The shelves r full of low end Samsung devices that r a joke for only 50bucks or less. Makes sense they have majority off andriod devices.
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A lot of the phones you can buy from the pre-paid carriers are cheap...what's your point? Not everyone can shell out $300 for a brand new phone. My cousin just bought a S3 because that's all he could afford (free being what he could afford).

BadUsername said:
G3 is cool, but it won't have the same feel, definitely not as smooth as the m8.
Pros:
Better screen
Less bezel
Lighter
Better rear camera
Cons:
Worse battery life
Phone gets too hot faster
Stupid rear buttons
Worse front facing camera
Not as fast as sense
That's at least what I've been reading, I wouldn't switch. And who knows if it'll have an unlocked bootloader.
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Exactly, also the enhanced screen has not been taken advantage of.

I've had the m8 since launch and while I think its the smoothest phone ever made and is unlocked the wasted realestate just kills me. I can't wait to get the g3 on Thursday
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sfreemanoh said:
A lot of the phones you can buy from the pre-paid carriers are cheap...what's your point? Not everyone can shell out $300 for a brand new phone. My cousin just bought a S3 because that's all he could afford (free being what he could afford).
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My point is if u flood the market with tons of devices for free of course your going to have the most out there active in the market..as most people can't afford a high end phone an the government isn't buying them one of those.

Tigerstown said:
My point is if u flood the market with tons of devices for free of course your going to have the most out there active in the market..as most people can't afford a high end phone an the government isn't buying them one of those.
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about how people bash Samsung for making "cheap low cost" phones when there's a market for them as not everyone has the resources to shell out hundreds of dollars on a phone.
I applaud Samsung for reaching out to all types of consumers.
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