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New radio = hot phone

Anyone else experiencing a hot backside of their tb on the new radio. Im even running battery saver mode, undervolted and no overclock.
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no but im not a fan of this new radio.

I agree the radio is great. Just im cooking eggs with my tb.
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i have been experiencing the same thing... big time !
regardless of what rom i use, sense/de-sense or aosp, the phone gets really hot after awhile. i've had a few instances where it got so hot that it froze the phone and i had to yank the battery and let it cool down.
for the hell of it, tried going back to an older radio and the problem went away.
damn.. did have a tad bit better battery on the new radio as well as a very slight improvement in reception... but considering the consequences of the new radio, it's better just to stick to an older one for now.

Was this only happening when using a 3G/4G connection or all the time? I haven't experienced that but I only switched to the new radio a few days ago and haven't done any long term mobile data usage with it yet. I do seem to pick up 4G at my work quicker and in places in the building where I couldn't before.
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I thought I was the only one experiencing this. When I use it too much it gets like this. Or when I play madden 12 it gets that way too
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I know i read if you undervolt it too much it can cause a phone to run hot if done incorrectly. Causes phone to work harder since it needs more power.
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Refering to a couple of the posts above, i am in a 3G only area but i do heavy usage(web, movies) so the phone will be on for a few hours at a time.
As for "undervolting", i use DreamKernal + SetCPU and just overclock to like 1222. I also have a profile set so when the screen is off it is set to max out at 368.
Oh, and for the heck of it tried that VZW thing with pulling the battery to reset location and.it didnt help with the heat either.
On a positive note, at least if your hands are cold(or other body part), then hey!

i think the kernels have alot to do with the heat as well. i doubt the leaked 802 radio will harm anyone's phone. i will admit its a very wonky radio for me. ive just recently combined the cdma 627 radio and the lte 802 radio and all is well. i went 23hrs on a stock battery with lte on all the time. im running cm7+kangbang kernel.

AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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jbh00jh said:
AND YOU ARE RUNNING TWO RADIOS ALL THE TIME WHEN ON 4G.
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SOMEBODY SET US UP THE ROM !
as i said above, i get the "hot" phone issue also even though i'm in a 3G only area and have my phone set to CDMA auto (PRL).
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I've been running the latest leak (2.11) rooted, along with the latest radios, for about a week now, and haven't noticed the back getting any hotter than it did before. I'll have to pay more attention and see.

Kernel+Radios=Bad reception ?

Hi there, I have a question!! Is it possible that a kernel x with radio x can interfere with the cellphone reception and cause bad reception on devices?
I used to be on aosp iml74k build 3 with Eugene's kernel and now I'm on glados 2.7 that comes with CyberGr Mod v3 Hybrid_ics rom and always used xxxkb3 radio. When I installed the new rom I did a full clean install even format my SD card.
Used to have at least umts and more but now after reboot or battery pulled I'm always on 2g and my settings are ok I checked it.
Am I missing something or it's not compatible?
Thanks in advance!!
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rener78 said:
Hi there, I have a question!! Is it possible that a kernel x with radio x can interfere with the cellphone reception and cause bad reception on devices?
I used to be on aosp iml74k build 3 with Eugene's kernel and now I'm on glados 2.7 that comes with CyberGr Mod v3 Hybrid_ics rom and always used xxxkb3 radio. When I installed the new rom I did a full clean install even format my SD card.
Used to have at least umts and more but now after reboot or battery pulled I'm always on 2g and my settings are ok I checked it.
Am I missing something or it's not compatible?
Thanks in advance!!
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Good luck with you answer... people here don't seem to care about others with signal problems.. I too would like to know about a fix for signal.. 1more day in my return period or else this things a goner
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Cant really say for NS4g but gsm phones have multiple radios to choose from this is really only way to improve your signal
if you guy have more radios to choose from old or new try flashing another radio.
some have better luck with older some with newer
Or wait for proper ICS OTA for your 4g phone that will include new radio
bdubs4200 said:
1more day in my return period or else this things a goner
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IMO i would have gotten a galaxy s 2 from sprint much better phone than NS even better than the galaxy nexus. galaxy nexus is an overpriced watered down Gs2 with ****tier CPU and GPU only thing better is the qHDscreen.

[Q] Slow and laggy Nexus S HELP

Hi,
I use the newest AOSP+ and Glados 2.7 kernel on my Nexus S. I experience a lot of lags while opening apps. I tap on the icon, the app launches and I wait 1-4 seconds (depending on the app) then the content is loaded. No matter if it is SMS app, Call logs, Facebook, even Market or Appbrain. Usually after the reboot things go well for a while. But then everything slow down. Even the apps as native Phone app in ICS is very very slow while opening even though it is not killed. I think it is something with RAM, right? I used to have HTC Desire (the first model) and my Nexus is at the same speed!!! It is not right!
Can you help me with this? Where is the problem?

Wipe and reflash. Try a different kernel. Make sure its supported for the nexxxy
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vabeachfc3s said:
Wipe and reflash. Try a different kernel. Make sure its supported for the nexxxy
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Would you recommend me a kernel with good battery life?

honestly just read the change log.
your battery life depends on you cpu clock-speed and governor.
and ics is fast as fast as gb yet on this phone. But eventhough, I'm never going back.

Matrix kernel is awesome
devcager said:
Would you recommend me a kernel with good battery life?
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Theres no need to overclock if you are. Miui roms have great battery life
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Ok, I did a full wipe, reflashed and got back all the apps using Titanium Backup. I get the same problem again. Before I installed all the apps, phone was really much faster. I do not know where is the problem.
What causes app opening lags? Shall I somehow track RAM to find out? Or what? Can some widgets on homescreens cause lags? Or Go Launcher?
I am really desperate. I use just stable ROM and kernels and my phone is still lagy as I would have two years old smartphone (

How mamy apps do you have on the phone?
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Also dont use titanium backup. Try building a new setup
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I have 82 apps. I also tried it as the new setup for the first time I flashed this ROM. I experienced the same problem when I had HTC Desire. Maybe there is an app causing this. Is it processor or RAM or what?

This is weird. I never had this problem. Maybe try unrooting and flashing back to stock. Then updating the the official 2.3.6 which will be avail once u flash back to stock. See if the stock rom is slow as well
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The 5 months i owned my nexus i never had this problem. That phone was dumb fast.
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I have experienced the same that you have, with my Nexus becoming slow and laggy. I use an MIUI rom though. I mostly experience this when my RAM is full or close to full. Usually, what I do is either clear my RAM by killing apps from a task manager or rebooting, and then it goes back to silky smooth for me. I'm not sure if this is the same problem that you have though.
Did you try using a task manager to clear tasks?

No. I will not use task manager on phone as Nexus S. Why shall I do this on such a device. Task managers are for slower phones. AND I read very clever article about saving battery life. You can read there that Android manage the tasks on its own much better. Task killers usually don't work as they should or as the user think they do. They will usually slow down the apps which should be loaded in RAM.
ANYWAY... I found the problem. I use NSTools and there is the feature "Deep Idle" - this feature saves battery A LOT!!! (When phone is idle 5+ hours with wi-fi, it takes only 1-2% which is great). But this causes the problem whit loading apps. So I turned it off. Now I have problem with battery life which is a little bit worse.
So now, I need better kernel and also radio (my wi-fi has very poor signal even though it is closed to the router)

devcager said:
No. I will not use task manager on phone as Nexus S. Why shall I do this on such a device. Task managers are for slower phones. AND I read very clever article about saving battery life. You can read there that Android manage the tasks on its own much better. Task killers usually don't work as they should or as the user think they do. They will usually slow down the apps which should be loaded in RAM.
ANYWAY... I found the problem. I use NSTools and there is the feature "Deep Idle" - this feature saves battery A LOT!!! (When phone is idle 5+ hours with wi-fi, it takes only 1-2% which is great). But this causes the problem whit loading apps. So I turned it off. Now I have problem with battery life which is a little bit worse.
So now, I need better kernel and also radio (my wi-fi has very poor signal even though it is closed to the router)
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Radio does not affect wifi.
Radios aka basebands or SW, are for carrier signal only.
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Shark_On_Land said:
Radio does not affect wifi.
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Really? And carrier signal, too? So I've lived in a mistake. The last time I had really low signal from my carrier after installing one of the radios, I just installed a different one and the signal was back.

devcager said:
Really? And carrier signal, too? So I've lived in a mistake. The last time I had really low signal from my carrier after installing one of the radios, I just installed a different one and the signal was back.
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You misread what I typed. Please reread before you place sarcasm.
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You misread what I typed. Please reread before you place sarcasm.
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I never use sarcasm in internet conversations becuase it is too misunderstooding. Sorry, i didnt read the second row of your post.

OK, does anybody use deep idle, please?

While this is happening could you go into settings > apps > running and tell us what ram is free or cached please.

[Q] [SOLVED] Random shutdowns / turning off.

Hey guys,
The topic of this thread has change slightly since I started it. Please disregard the first few posts after this one.
The problem is that when I install a new ROM, it works perfectly for an hour or perhaps even the day, and then I start getting random shutdowns. These seem to start out of the blue and I cant work it out.
When installing a new ROM, I always check the MD5 and perform a superwipe before starting to use the ROM. Ill put back a few apps using titanium backup pro.
I don't use any hacked apps or task killers.
I have searched but cant find anything useful.
Currently using Insertcoin Sense 4 RC5. Firmware 3.32.
I have tried three different kernals (Bricked, Sebastian and RCMix), all with the same problem.
Update: tjamaican has kindly sent me a fix he found of the forums, its for a battery fix that worked for me on insertcoin's ICS Sense 4 RC4.1 ROM. However I have just moved to RC5 and the problem is back even with the fix.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2a8837bcatym1ju
I am going to try and set a lower CPU level, already down to 1.2 Ghz with max screen off at ~500Mhz. Seems stable for now, been running 24hrs - no restarts.
This is interesting because I had a GB Rom running at 1.5Ghz with no problems, maybe its something to do with ICS.
Any ideas?
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Sent the phone off to htc and they have replaced the motherboard. Its all fine and dandy now!
They dont know why it happened or how to avoid it in the future...useful, but if you're still in warranty then send it off, it took exactly a week to get back to me (Monday to Monday). Good luck!
Max

Well no need for factory reset. Superwipe? Yes.
What roms cause this?
What firmware is ur senny on? Ex: 1.17? 3.24?
Phone have physical damage?
Has it been wet?
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation

Thanks for your reply.
No, the phone is basically new, but as I said this has happened before.
Running this ROM on 3.24:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468683
But this does happen on other ROMS too, they work perfectly for a while and then slowly begin to develop problems. At this stage I usually install the latest version of the ROM but I'm actually happy with the ROM at the moment and dont want to have to keep changing it!

I've been running Darkforest ROM since early stages and have had no problems so far. Maybe try that one. It's on v 5.1.5 now and it's very fast and very stable, moreso than many other ROMs i've tried.

Could be a defective device possibly? Are u using the kernel that comes with the rom?
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation

I would download 1-click cleaner and clean the cache every week. Also you might want to boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache every two weeks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

I dont think there is anything wrong with the device, I'll try wiping the cache's and see if that makes a difference. Thank you very much for all your answers so far.
Max

Could possibly be an app try removing all your apps and install 1 by 1 give it a couple of weeks see if it happens again, I got a problem from juice defender pro (payed for) worked alright for few days then my launcher started force closing all the time took me ages to figure it out but got there by removing all my apps and installing them 1 by 1 long and time staking but worth a try
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Okay well ive tried clearing the cache and davlik cache with no luck, less restarts but they are still there. I am resistant to start removing apps as I use them on a daily basis. Before I try this, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Max

I have the same problem :/ it happens in both GB and ICS but It never happened to me till about 2 or 3 months ago
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This is still happening, but now its starts to happen more quickly, the new Sense 4 insert coin ROM works fine for the first DAY then I get trouble

darksupernova said:
This is still happening, but now its starts to happen more quickly, the new Sense 4 insert coin ROM works fine for the first DAY then I get trouble
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Please elaborate more of the problem/concern, so we could atleast help you somehow.
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ardom said:
Please elaborate more of the problem/concern, so we could atleast help you somehow.
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What other information would you like?
I think it may be a kernel issue, I'm going to try a few...
Tried three different kernals now, all with the same problem which would indicate its not a kernal problem? Something else perhaps? (Tried bricked, sebastian and RCMix)

its not a problem, its with network connection
I've had this problem since ages and couldn't fix it yet. First thing, download LTE switch and change the value from wcdma preferred to gsm auto. see if it avoids the restarts. Another thing you can try is, change the sim card (I havent tried it yet). Or, if possible, change the back cover. But I'm pretty pretty sure its the problem with the network.
Please reply.

Danyal93 said:
I've had this problem since ages and couldn't fix it yet. First thing, download LTE switch and change the value from wcdma preferred to gsm auto. see if it avoids the restarts. Another thing you can try is, change the sim card (I havent tried it yet). Or, if possible, change the back cover. But I'm pretty pretty sure its the problem with the network.
Please reply.
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Pretty sure its a power/bat problem for me.
Update: tjamaican has kindly sent me a fix he found of the forums, its for a battery fix that worked for me on insertcoin's ICS Sense 4 RC4.1 ROM. However I have just moved to RC5 and the problem is back even with the fix.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2a8837bcatym1ju
I am going to try and set a lower CPU level, already down to 1.2 Ghz
Any ideas?

Well I have been at the 1.2GHz level for almost 24 hours now without too much trouble. Im not sure if it was lowering the CPU clock for screen on, or raising the CPU clock for screen off. Either way I can notice the device is slightly slower. I dont see why ICS doesnt like overclocking on this phone, GB was fine with it?!
Max
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Just had a random shutdown, could have been anywhere in the last 20 mins. I really don't know what else to try!

Having EXACT ones you are having. Buy another battery if that doesn't work its a hardware problem. I still need to buy my battery but will post and let you know if it worked.
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darksupernova said:
Well I have been at the 1.2GHz level for almost 24 hours now without too much trouble. Im not sure if it was lowering the CPU clock for screen on, or raising the CPU clock for screen off. Either way I can notice the device is slightly slower. I dont see why ICS doesnt like overclocking on this phone, GB was fine with it?!
Max
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Just had a random shutdown, could have been anywhere in the last 20 mins. I really don't know what else to try!
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I'm also starting to think its caused by not letting the battery fully die and recharging it a lot but that's just my guess?

I switched back to gingerbread yesterday and so far I've had no problems which would indicate its not a hardware issue...? Usually by now I've had a few shut downs..

So I went as far as unrooting and switching batteries with my bro and the problem continues idk what to do

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So I went as far as unrooting and switching batteries with my bro and the problem continues idk what to do
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Yeah the problems started again for me on gingerbread. I've read its a motherboard problem I think I'm gonna have to send it off to HTC... Great... 3 weeks no phone...

Rooted, flashed Virtuous ROM, now what else to do?

Hey all,
I have a very fun and exciting cell phone now thanks to rooting my phone and installing the Virtuous Inquisition ROM on my phone.
However, now that I've done all that, I've got the itch to do more to my phone. I really like VI as a ROM, but is there anything else I can do to my phone?
Thanks!

Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.

boomboomer said:
Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.
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I've been tempted to flash hypernonsense too, as its basically like an updated VI. How is firmware 3.33, do you have any wifi signal issues and if so where are you based? Its the only thing holding me back, as I've seen people saying that their wifi is affected after upgrading to 3.33.

gsmyth said:
I've been tempted to flash hypernonsense too, as its basically like an updated VI. How is firmware 3.33, do you have any wifi signal issues and if so where are you based? Its the only thing holding me back, as I've seen people saying that their wifi is affected after upgrading to 3.33.
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I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).

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I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).
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Thanks, im also in the UK, so might just give this a shot. Just biding my time for a fully stable CM10 release as it doesnt seem to far away now, so will feed my flashing needs for now. Also been looking at the Anker battery, looks good value for a tenner. On the stock battery on VI, I'm getting around 20-24hr(+) with 3-3.5 hrs screen on time.

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I'm in the UK, 3G signal strength is improved and wifi is no different than it was in VI - it all works perfectly including tethering.
The biggest improvement is battery life - over 1d 16hrs, with 5 to 7hrs screen on time is the norm now (using the Anker 1900).
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really? hrm... (I also use the Anker 1900s).
I'll check it out. I think I had HyperNonSense before I had VI and switched for some reason.
Thanks.

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Flash hypernonsense, it's like VI but with the remaining few bugs fixed, better battery life (with stock kernel) and a later ICS build. Make sure you have firmware 3.33 to avoid reboots.
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Does this rom have any bugs that stop you using it on a daily basis?
I'm experiencing a GPS issue with CM9.1 so may need an alternative but I'm not keen on sense anymore so want to stick with the whole stock android look/feel.
Really like the way CM9 works in comparison to CM7, it may just be the change over from gingerbread to ICS but its awesome.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app

You can find the "bug" list for this Rom .and for all other roms on the first page of download section .'
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Repoman123 said:
Does this rom have any bugs that stop you using it on a daily basis?
I'm experiencing a GPS issue with CM9.1 so may need an alternative but I'm not keen on sense anymore so want to stick with the whole stock android look/feel.
Really like the way CM9 works in comparison to CM7, it may just be the change over from gingerbread to ICS but its awesome.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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No bugs, been using it as my daily for months now. The only thing not working is the fm radio.

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No bugs, been using it as my daily for months now. The only thing not working is the fm radio.
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Thanks for the response.
So you think this could be one of the closest roms to CM9? In terms of user interface and features?
(Sorry for the noob questions, I've only ever used 2 roms. CM7 and CM9!)
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Repoman123 said:
Thanks for the response.
So you think this could be one of the closest roms to CM9? In terms of user interface and features?
(Sorry for the noob questions, I've only ever used 2 roms. CM7 and CM9!)
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
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I have no idea, never installed either of those. I aim for a lightweight ROM with maximum battery life as I need the phone for what it can do, rather than eyecandy and features I don't use.
It's as close to an AOSP ROM that has everything working, if that helps.