[Q] Slow and laggy Nexus S HELP - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I use the newest AOSP+ and Glados 2.7 kernel on my Nexus S. I experience a lot of lags while opening apps. I tap on the icon, the app launches and I wait 1-4 seconds (depending on the app) then the content is loaded. No matter if it is SMS app, Call logs, Facebook, even Market or Appbrain. Usually after the reboot things go well for a while. But then everything slow down. Even the apps as native Phone app in ICS is very very slow while opening even though it is not killed. I think it is something with RAM, right? I used to have HTC Desire (the first model) and my Nexus is at the same speed!!! It is not right!
Can you help me with this? Where is the problem?

Wipe and reflash. Try a different kernel. Make sure its supported for the nexxxy
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vabeachfc3s said:
Wipe and reflash. Try a different kernel. Make sure its supported for the nexxxy
sent from my Sensation
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Would you recommend me a kernel with good battery life?

honestly just read the change log.
your battery life depends on you cpu clock-speed and governor.
and ics is fast as fast as gb yet on this phone. But eventhough, I'm never going back.

Matrix kernel is awesome
devcager said:
Would you recommend me a kernel with good battery life?
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Theres no need to overclock if you are. Miui roms have great battery life
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Ok, I did a full wipe, reflashed and got back all the apps using Titanium Backup. I get the same problem again. Before I installed all the apps, phone was really much faster. I do not know where is the problem.
What causes app opening lags? Shall I somehow track RAM to find out? Or what? Can some widgets on homescreens cause lags? Or Go Launcher?
I am really desperate. I use just stable ROM and kernels and my phone is still lagy as I would have two years old smartphone (

How mamy apps do you have on the phone?
sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10

Also dont use titanium backup. Try building a new setup
sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10

I have 82 apps. I also tried it as the new setup for the first time I flashed this ROM. I experienced the same problem when I had HTC Desire. Maybe there is an app causing this. Is it processor or RAM or what?

This is weird. I never had this problem. Maybe try unrooting and flashing back to stock. Then updating the the official 2.3.6 which will be avail once u flash back to stock. See if the stock rom is slow as well
sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10

The 5 months i owned my nexus i never had this problem. That phone was dumb fast.
sent from an HTC sensation on CM7 alpha #10

I have experienced the same that you have, with my Nexus becoming slow and laggy. I use an MIUI rom though. I mostly experience this when my RAM is full or close to full. Usually, what I do is either clear my RAM by killing apps from a task manager or rebooting, and then it goes back to silky smooth for me. I'm not sure if this is the same problem that you have though.
Did you try using a task manager to clear tasks?

No. I will not use task manager on phone as Nexus S. Why shall I do this on such a device. Task managers are for slower phones. AND I read very clever article about saving battery life. You can read there that Android manage the tasks on its own much better. Task killers usually don't work as they should or as the user think they do. They will usually slow down the apps which should be loaded in RAM.
ANYWAY... I found the problem. I use NSTools and there is the feature "Deep Idle" - this feature saves battery A LOT!!! (When phone is idle 5+ hours with wi-fi, it takes only 1-2% which is great). But this causes the problem whit loading apps. So I turned it off. Now I have problem with battery life which is a little bit worse.
So now, I need better kernel and also radio (my wi-fi has very poor signal even though it is closed to the router)

devcager said:
No. I will not use task manager on phone as Nexus S. Why shall I do this on such a device. Task managers are for slower phones. AND I read very clever article about saving battery life. You can read there that Android manage the tasks on its own much better. Task killers usually don't work as they should or as the user think they do. They will usually slow down the apps which should be loaded in RAM.
ANYWAY... I found the problem. I use NSTools and there is the feature "Deep Idle" - this feature saves battery A LOT!!! (When phone is idle 5+ hours with wi-fi, it takes only 1-2% which is great). But this causes the problem whit loading apps. So I turned it off. Now I have problem with battery life which is a little bit worse.
So now, I need better kernel and also radio (my wi-fi has very poor signal even though it is closed to the router)
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Radio does not affect wifi.
Radios aka basebands or SW, are for carrier signal only.
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Radio does not affect wifi.
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Really? And carrier signal, too? So I've lived in a mistake. The last time I had really low signal from my carrier after installing one of the radios, I just installed a different one and the signal was back.

devcager said:
Really? And carrier signal, too? So I've lived in a mistake. The last time I had really low signal from my carrier after installing one of the radios, I just installed a different one and the signal was back.
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You misread what I typed. Please reread before you place sarcasm.
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Shark_On_Land said:
You misread what I typed. Please reread before you place sarcasm.
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I never use sarcasm in internet conversations becuase it is too misunderstooding. Sorry, i didnt read the second row of your post.

OK, does anybody use deep idle, please?

While this is happening could you go into settings > apps > running and tell us what ram is free or cached please.

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2 questions

I have two question that I'm wondering.....
#1- is there anything I can do to make my sensation louder? Ringers a little soft and I want it to be a little louder.
#2- can I do anything to make my battery life better?
I just rooted 2 days ago.....clockwork .4 and android revolution hd 1.17 with no sense 1.52
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Try 1.1.8 ? Assuming it's out. Also look at removing bloatware and slowing down the processor with the oc daemon or SetCPU.
1. You can try Equalizer our Volume + from the Market
2. There is a lot of things you can do about that, but basically: dim the screen, turn off wifi, gps, bluetooth,... when you don't need them, underclock, ...
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
AGREE,
On the WIFI/GPS/BT/Screen/Phone Internet. Turn them off unless you need them for a specific activity.
The screen seems to be the biggest killer so switch it off when you can. PLEASE don't use any task killers as it'll make things worse.
yea i know not to use any task killers (learned that on my mt4g)
Sorry to hijack the thread, but does the built in task manager count as "task killer". So am I also not supposed to use that one to get rid of the running tasks?
I use Juice Deffender on my DHD and my Batterylife is x2.
But i donĀ“t know if it is working korrekt with Sense 3.0. Now i use a mixed Rom with Sense2.1 + 3.0 and its working great.
Try the Free Version before you buy it.
Edit: The built in Task manager is o.k so you can use it without getting problems.
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Just took a quick glance at Juice Defender. Don't think I'd like push email to be disabled for example. So I think I'll stick with custom roms for now to save some battery.
qwert_ said:
Just took a quick glance at Juice Defender. Don't think I'd like push email to be disabled for example. So I think I'll stick with custom roms for now to save some battery.
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You can set Juice Deffender to enable Data Connection every 10, 15, 20,...... minutes for 1, 2, 3,..... minutes so you will not miss any mail.
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Yeah, I guess, but I just like the idea to receive emails like sms. One useful thing that wouldn't bother me though, seems to be that I can deactivate data connection over night
Yes thats a cool feature. From 20:00 till 06:30 my Data connection is disabled and phone is switched to silent with no vibration. With JD you can personalise everything you whant to save your Battery (Displaybrightnes, CPU, Energysaveplan when Battery is under xx%, Timeplans, witch app is allowed to use data connection).
I love it and my Batterylife awesome.
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Which current ROM / Kernel combo gives you the MOST battery life?

If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
shgadwa said:
"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
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i'm confused, i'm not allowed to ask people for recommendations on what ROM has given them these supposed 5-hours screen-on times? I get 2-3 hours and my brightness is at 20% with wifi on on cleanrom 3.0 and im worried I have a defective battery. what's wrong with this question?
Unfortunately XDA Rules don't allow us to say what is the "best" in a specific area. You can ask for what ROM people are running and what screen on time they are getting so that you can determine it yourself.
Even though I'm all for following the rules I'm kinda confused why this rule was ever passed. In the real world there are always "best" of things. It seems this is just an ego protecting type of rule. However it would cause people to fight and say "No I have the best" and etc. People can't handle freedom!
theartialmartist said:
If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I slightly want to kill you, mostly out of jealousy but also for not mentioning your brightness level, LTE on/unavailable, SYNC on/off, usage etc.
But this is enough to make me flash lite tonight after a total discharge. i'm at 44% with 1 hour 30 minutes screen on time. 10 hours 30 mins normal time at 2/10 brightness. (one notch above lowest setting)
is it possible i have a defective battery? or is Lite really that much different?
What's the procedure for switching from Standard to Lite? Backup all apps with titanium, flash dalvik and data cache, install via clockworkmod, then perform a battery calibration?
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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http://youtu.be/hbOjS0Ah7_o
godfirst said:
Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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Your correct,I don't set my screen brightness it's auto,I also don't use social apps like Facebook, etc. I do quite a bit of browsing and flashing. I've made some backups and flashed some mods and some of the apps I use don't even show up, why they don't I have no clue. I don't play mobile games though, which probably take up a lot of usage. I've had so many phones and roms over the years tell a lite ROM fits my agenda. It's still to each own. Just know I'm not just sitting and looking at my screen for over 5 hour of use lol. I'm also in and have LTE which shows in screenshots.
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soapbubble said:
I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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Here you go
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How is this?
I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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any web browsing... it doesnt really show any usage, aside the screen has been on?
Yes,I just flashed the new 2.0 radio as well. I've even listen to some music. It seems that if the app hasn't used a lot of cpu power then it doesn't show up.I
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I found the cleanroms have really great battery life. I gave up Samsung skyrocket because of the poor battery life but with this phone and with that rom in particular I was very impressed. With a full charge I can last all day with a good amount of use (phone calls, texts, auto syncing, and email) and still have 40% or so at days end.
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I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
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I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
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Well, in lieu of other responses, what have you found with your current settings? Everything about the same? I have mean, thats pretty good for high performance setting and heavy use, yes?

[Q] Higher battery drain with Wifi off?

I've noticed with at least my Infuse that whenever I have my Wifi on I have significantly lower battery drain than when I have it off. I'm currently running Aeon 1.4 with Entropy's kernel but have noticed this with other kernels and ROMs that I've used. Screenshot attached showing that pretty much as soon as the wireless is turned off the battery usage takes a sudden drop and continues until it comes back on. Is there an issue with my phone or are there some settings that I should be aware of and try changing to remedy the issue?
I tried searching around before I made this thread and couldn't find anything that had the same issues I've been having. Any input would be appreciated.
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I've noticed with at least my Infuse that whenever I have my Wifi on I have significantly lower battery drain than when I have it off. I'm currently running Aeon 1.4 with Entropy's kernel but have noticed this with other kernels and ROMs that I've used. Screenshot attached showing that pretty much as soon as the wireless is turned off the battery usage takes a sudden drop and continues until it comes back on. Is there an issue with my phone or are there some settings that I should be aware of and try changing to remedy the issue?
I tried searching around before I made this thread and couldn't find anything that had the same issues I've been having. Any input would be appreciated.
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I see what you are talking about, however I think the issue is less with your wifi being off as it is with your cell signal being low. Looking at the cap you provided I can see where in the second wifi off period you could think that the wifi was your problem, but look at the first. you have the same drain with the wifi off as you do with it turned on (practically). Change the modem. Find one that works great in your area, because with the modems for the infuse newer is not always better. Also you can try one of those little RF booster things that go on your phone behind the battery to boost signal. I know they seem like a scam, but they do sometimes give just enough boost to keep a phone from searching for signal when it should have great signal. But try flashing a new modem first.
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I see what you are talking about, however I think the issue is less with your wifi being off as it is with your cell signal being low. Looking at the cap you provided I can see where in the second wifi off period you could think that the wifi was your problem, but look at the first. you have the same drain with the wifi off as you do with it turned on (practically). Change the modem. Find one that works great in your area, because with the modems for the infuse newer is not always better. Also you can try one of those little RF booster things that go on your phone behind the battery to boost signal. I know they seem like a scam, but they do sometimes give just enough boost to keep a phone from searching for signal when it should have great signal. But try flashing a new modem first.
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I'll have to start looking around for a new modem, currently I'm on UCLB3; my only concern is this is the only modem to provide me with a quick GPS lock and I don't want to lose that ability. Thanks for the suggestion
Check the modem thread. I had some great luck with an older one (k1 I think it was). I have since passed on my infuse to my son, and I can ping his location within 15 yards in under 2 minutes. I have a post over there where I got 5 days of battery life and it should tell you the modem I was using as well as rom and other info about the setup I had.
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I found it for you, it was in the battery tips and tricks thread, buried away.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23402471&postcount=32
I also added a picture of your screenshot to my original post here so you can see where the wifi and the signal are at more accurately on the battery meter.
Thanks for the link, I'm actually using ADW Launcher Ex right now and by the looks of it I shouldn't. Though I don't think I'm ready to spend the money on esf shell; are there any other recommendations for launchers that aren't as much of battery hogs?
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If you have an ics based rom apex is nice. Launcher pro plus for gb is good IF you don't use the LPP included widgets.
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kirbee213 said:
If you have an ics based rom apex is nice. Launcher pro plus for gb is good IF you don't use the LPP included widgets.
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Giving FTL Launcher Lite a shot, if it doesn't work out or if it's not recommended I'll try out Launcher Pro, thanks again!
I tried it for a couple days, was not my cup of tea. But it had outstanding reviews so I gave it a shot. I think I ended up going to LPP or ADW with the infuse.
A few other things to check are: Make sure your phone is not always scanning for wifi networks.
If you are in an area of low cell signal and don't need your phone to call people, flip on airplane mode.
Turn off auto brightness... use the power widget (or the 17 notification toggle tweak) to change your brightness between 10% (low light) 20% (medium light) and full (when in bright daylight conditions).
There is somewhere a tweak to turn off H+ and 3G when not in those service areas, find it, use it. (Google *#*#4636#*#* or is it *#*#3646#*#*... idfk one of those...
Check your sns sync schedule for short times. Set them to a longer interval or off. You should check ALL sync schedules for this, calendar is a major culprit of this, even if you don't have one setup.
Install "badass battery monitor" use it to check wake locks and battery voltage and temp. It has a great "battery sucker" feature that will tell you what is draining your battery.
NEVER USE AUTO APP KILLERS! They do more harm than good. Hold home and open the task manager and kill the apps yourself. It will take 15 seconds and if you do it for 3 days a few times a day, it becomes a habit. Don't be all grrr and do it 60000000 times a day. Just every now and then.
If you have installed a few apps and launchers that didn't work out for you, I would say booting into recovery and clearing the cache or a reset are in order. Uninstalls rarely remove everything they should and leave behind bits of code that will suck your battery like a hidden mosquito you can never swat.
Probably the most helpful tidbit anyone can give you is to not stress over the battery life constantly. You have a wonderful device that you have spent a lot of time customizing to look the way you want it to look. The more you stress over the battery the more you will check it, turning on that big beautiful screen sucking even more life from it. Making user error the major battery sucker in the equation... You wanted that beautiful beast, enjoy it.
Sorry so long, but trying to be thorough and helpful. These are the major tips I used to get 5 days from my phone. But honestly after day 2 or 3 I started really cracking the whip and refused to use my phone for anything other than texting.
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kirbee213 said:
There is somewhere a tweak to turn off H+ and 3G when not in those service areas, find it, use it. (Google *#*#4636#*#* or is it *#*#3646#*#*... idfk one of those...
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Looking around I can't seem to find this, does it just disable all data when there's no service? Sounds great if it does.
No it just drops you down to edge.
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Fantastic, thanks a lot
So how has your battery been? Updates?
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So how has your battery been? Updates?
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Its been about the same, possibly a bit better. I've been using the battery app you mentioned to find what's causing the drain and kinda working with it from there. However I was in an area with roaming for a week so I can't give an accurate conclusion.
The BCM4330's standby drain is extremely low. In addition, when active, it requires FAR less energy per byte of data transferred than the cell radio.
OF COURSE background syncs are going to use less power over wifi than over the cell radio.
The whole "turn your wifi off" to save power became invalid over a year ago. (Exception: If the wifi chip misbehaves, such as the infamous BT-AMP bug, but I haven't seen that in many months.)
Here a couple of threads I found regarding this mystery drain.
From the past:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224052&highlight=battery
Here is the i9000 battery drain issue I was refering to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696
The last few pages hinted that the problem may have been fixed in later gb builds.
Our custom kernels was based of Roger's 2.3.3.
Would the bug be still in it?
Could this be why we (at least me anyway) are still seeing this?

[Q] Memory leak, battery problems, and screen issues.

First, my phone has a memory leak. Like, after using it for a while, even an hour or two, the available memory will go to 0. I have tried ending all apps that could be suspect, but all of the memory being used that is reported by the settings is much less than what is necessary for there to be <10MB of available memory. I even try to end as many programs as I can, but this eventually happens after some usage. Before you ask, no, I am not using task-killers, and I only notice this and end apps when whatever is leaking is starting. The phone will not effectively end enough applications to free the space. Almost every app will say "restarting" on the "running" page, and none will be seen on the "cached" page. It will result in the phone locking up and rebooting. Also, this happens during high CPU usage (might be a memory issue though), like while updating apps.
Second, my battery life since the OTA has dropped significantly. Now, I am lucky if I get 6-8 hours of battery life while occasionally using the phone and listening to music a lot. The screen seems to be taking most of the power (~65%), and the brightness is regulated by JuiceDefender. I have tried to automatically set it without JD, and it was worse in battery life. It is on much less than the wifi, yet is somehow taking up far more battery. Second place is the Android OS/System/Mediaserver combined (~20%), for whatever reason. I have tried using the Battery Calibration application multiple times and it has not helped. Disabling JD makes battery issues worse. I have looked for wakelocks, but besides the charger, I found none that looked suspicious/non-OS related. See attached file for battery info.
Third, for some reason, the dead pixels came back? Now, it looked like at first there was a shape of a butterfly in spotted dead pixels. Most of those localizations disappeared (or, the "dead" pixels came back to "life"), but a few grew, and now I have somewhere over 100 dead pixels. A few of those have shrunk, but it is still an eyesore. I can provide pictures if it will help. I'm not sure why it is doing this.
Note: all of these issues have started since the ICS OTA. I reflashed the stock OS before doing the OTA.
Any help would be greatly appreciated for any of these!
Mine
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Yeah mine is like that or worse if I have wifi/screen on as much as you do.
The drain is pretty steady even with minimal usage
Any ideas on what could be causing this?
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try FXZ stock ICS
freeze all unneccessary apps ...
dont install any other extra apps (downloadin from market)
try to keep minimum apps..
stay as much on 2G/Wi-Fi
ur battery should last for atleast more than 18 hrs for moderate use (else it will drain dependin on how heavy u use)
if this doesn't work then u'll need expert advice
& remember you'll get rarely above 24 hrs (usage matters a lot)
correct me if m wrong ...
I am also facing the same issues. I have the latest STOCK ICS.
Huge memory leak! Launcher has to restart on every unlock barely 20-7 mbs free!! and battery also drains pretty fast, although not when in sleep.
try "fast reboot"
it will clear some memory
shardul.phatak said:
try "fast reboot"
it will clear some memory
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Yes. thats temp.fix but any way to perm. fix this??
btw, Which rom are you using?? I just d/led CM10 rom, Is that better than current Stock ICS?
go for paranoid android ROM by alteredlikeness
it is the best accordin to my needs
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shardul.phatak said:
go for paranoid android ROM by alteredlikeness
it is the best accordin to my needs
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I just installed the CM10 Rom, Not sure about Paranoid Android, looks like too many things don't work yet. Alpha stages..
You are using it daily?? I want something stable for a while..
yep
its good n so as cm10
bt i prefer paranoid
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JB vs ICS battery life

Is it just me, or do the JB ROMs, custom, official, just rooted, etc, get less battery life than the ICS counterparts?
I first had a HOX back in July/August, and used only ICS ROMs. So I have a pretty good deal of experience with it, got about 5.5-6 hours of screen on time every single time.
Now, I noticed a drop in battery life on JB when I had an S3, and just hated the drain. I thought maybe it was just ROM related, and moved onto an iPhone.
Now back onto another One X, and it seems like I still get less battery life than when I had ICS, and I use it the same way.
Has anyone else noticed it?
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I dunno, I got 6 hours onscreen last night. Just gotta tune it right. And make maps hibernate. That was eating half the battery.
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Your battery is probably depreciating and loosing its full capacity.
Probably not JUST you, but from what I've read and experienced you're in the minority. My battery is definitely better on JB.
I've had much better life on JB, at least since I updated the whole phone (not just a JB rom). I can go almost two days without a full charge.
Hmmm, I'll try a different ROM then. And a JB radio.
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I've had much better life on JB, at least since I updated the whole phone (not just a JB rom). I can go almost two days without a full charge.
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What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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Misterowl said:
What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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I think he means updated via the stock AT&T ROM, which would include the latest radio.
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What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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I ran the 2.20 ruu then flashed the 3.18 ota. Once on that base, I've been super stable with CleanROM and Elemental kernel.
My work phone (my HOX) is running completely stock (has to, effing government policies...) and has had terrible battery life since updating to JB. It seems to mostly be due to maps sucking me dry, which I presume is from Google Now. Maps is constantly waking my device and using whatever data connection it can get, which is why i presume the Now stuff. not sure, seems to be fine when i turn off WiFi, so it seems that the wifi use on google now is problematic. I factory reset the device but seems to still be running the same. I've been losing almost 10% battery an hour when I leave my wifi on with barely any use of the phone . this was never the case when the phone was on ICS. it's clearly some sort of data connection as it relates to Maps usage as i've been seeing high CPU usage by the app and, at times, nearly 50% of my battery life going to the maps process.
Also, just noticed on BBS that the android OS and maps high battery usage may be due to alarm manager...I'm seeing many long awake times for a number of apps. hadn't noticed it as much before because i had booted the device multiple times today. any thoughts here? i know what this app is for and there's lots of info and complaints out there about this process on other phones in the past, but not much for stock JB on the HOX...
I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
It's maps. I don't have Google now and maps still ate half my battery on JB. Only way to get around it is make maps hibernate I've found, but this requires rooting.
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Try Greenify. You need root, but it allows you to stop apps from running in the background. It's not a task killer, which are worse than nothing because they run constantly shutting down apps that keep restarting; rather, it uses system settings to prevent them from starting background at all. You can use it on stuff like Maps if you use another app to convert them to user apps. I've been using it a couple of weeks, and it's worked just great.
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It's maps. I don't have Google now and maps still ate half my battery on JB. Only way to get around it is make maps hibernate I've found, but this requires rooting.
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Try Greenify. You need root, but it allows you to stop apps from running in the background. It's not a task killer, which are worse than nothing because they run constantly shutting down apps that keep restarting; rather, it uses system settings to prevent them from starting background at all. You can use it on stuff like Maps if you use another app to convert them to user apps. I've been using it a couple of weeks, and it's worked just great.
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Thanks. It definitely seems like Maps is the problem for me. BBS shows a number of maps-based apps with long wake times. I charged up to about 95% before bed last night, and am going to let it run down all the way today to see what happens. Will post some screenshots later, if anyone cares.
EDIT: Nevermind, will probably post this in the BBS thread, unless anyone here really wants it.
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I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
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Serially doubt you've tried viper xl
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Hydromea said:
I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
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Same. 2.5 hrs of screen time vs 3.5 for ICS. Same usage.
Viper JB vs Cleanrom ICS.
Stock everything else (radio, kernal)
maybe not necessarily maps like originally thought, though it's one of the culprits. the mediascanner just happens to hit maps a lot, likely due to it's typically-large cache. check this thread, particularly post #42 and the Google response another 10 posts or so later. sounds like there is definitely an issue with the device indexing and it's the same thing that affected a number android devices. my guess is that some people just dont have a lot of media files (or wipe their phones often enough that they dont accumulate much) and dont see as much of the effect.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37199
there's also a link at the end of that thread to another similar thread, found here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40370#58
i guess we really need to get that 4.2 source. also looks like someone built a sort of patch into CM10 on teh SGS3, but i dont know those forums well so i can't corroborate this. wow, i just ****ing said corroborate, time to go to bed.
Lol, corroborate.
Idk, I still think it's maps. I don't have very much media (2 albums) and disabling maps fixed my battery life (200% improvement, literally).
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Lol, corroborate.
Idk, I still think it's maps. I don't have very much media (2 albums) and disabling maps fixed my battery life (200% improvement, literally).
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yeah, i'm back on this boat as well. maps still has a long wake time i'm seeing location scanner services running so i'm thinking it's a location-based thing. going to let my phone die today so i can get a good BBS log since i screwed that up yesterday. i'm noticing odd dips in battery life whenever the phone wakes up. it seems to stay awake for up to 10-20 mins, but with the screen off. really weird thing is that when i let it sit overnight, there's no spike (just greater than usual battery drain) but it's when the phone first wakes up that it seems to be really draining and staying awake.

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