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It seems the version of Flash 10.1 on the leaked 2.2 ROM is an older version than what's on the Market but the Market doesn't show Flash. Can someone please post the APK for the current Flash 10.1 that's on the Android Market?
Appreciate it.
UPDATE: Never mind, i checked the version - 10.1.72.7 and it appears that's the same as beta 3 (latest)
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C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!
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C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!
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Are you serious? This site issues 3 day suspensions for someone accidentily posting a question in the wrong area LOL, you have got to be kidding me. Get off your high horse and just tell me people and if you want them to post in different areas. I can see the need to keep the threads clean and most will adhere to what is needed, but honestly threats are uncalled for unless it is consistently the same person doing it!
Just my opinion and i know you could prob care less and if you want ban me thats cool, there 1000's of site i can get this info off of.
No I think its a good idea. Too many f'n stupid posts in development.
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Can we get this thread back on track. Personally, i both agree and disagree with issueing 3 day bans, but its not the point. I hate questions that belong in general and are posted in the dev section, but tjat is not the point.
This thread is about friggin flash light for petes sakes. It is not a debate on if three day bans are called for or not.
And if this thread is useless, the mods should delete it.
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Please delete.
this guy is an idiot and should be banned for wasting our time
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C'mon, man! The fact that the thread title contains ".apk" should give you a pretty good idea about where this thread should be started. 3rd offense will result in a 3 day vacation. Thanks!
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Moderation is a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed before these forums can again be considered effective resources for serious development efforts.
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camblue said:
Are you serious? This site issues 3 day suspensions for someone accidentily posting a question in the wrong area LOL, you have got to be kidding me. Get off your high horse and just tell me people and if you want them to post in different areas. I can see the need to keep the threads clean and most will adhere to what is needed, but honestly threats are uncalled for unless it is consistently the same person doing it!
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Some of the device forums here have excellent moderation. The Incredible subforum is not one of them.
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Some of the device forums here have excellent moderation. The Incredible subforum is not one of them.
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Agreed! I dont blame the mods...I blame the idiotic posters here who can't read or follow directions
You know what's even more annoying than the OP posting this thread in the wrong forum? Google-ing the issue the OP was politely asking about, and then having to read through about 5 replies of people moaning about it being posted in the wrong forum and not getting an answer at all. Thanks for the help guys.
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You know what's even more annoying than the OP posting this thread in the wrong forum? Google-ing the issue the OP was politely asking about, and then having to read through about 5 replies of people moaning about it being posted in the wrong forum and not getting an answer at all. Thanks for the help guys.
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whats really funny is the answer is IN the OP. congratulations moron.
Jesus...people need to chill out. It's a forum. Go outside for a walk or something.
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whats really funny is the answer is IN the OP. congratulations moron.
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Damn this forum is tough, man. Lots of geniuses in here making my Incredible better, but I tell you what I'm scared ****less to ask any question for fear of being burnt to a crisp or banned.
Hey guys I was meandering through the forum reading up on the root progress, and I read about a member's idea and work on an automated root, I just want to say that from a dedicated member to the inc forum I am disappointed in the flaming and garbage that all you "experienced" devs are throwing at the people who haven't used adb before... Come on guys if you can't be kind why say something, you know? They won't learn if somebody is discouraging them from even trying... So just a thought, be kind because discouragement is not what these forums are about guys.
Peace to all you silly android fans out there and happy rooting!
People will make those sort of comments unfortunately.
And people will make these sort of posts about it.
Just another day on almost every community forums.
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People will make those sort of comments unfortunately.
And people will make these sort of posts about it.
Just another day on almost every community forums.
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Just saying man, coming from the inc forum where we actually help eachother... Its no way to talk to somebody who could actually turn into a decent dev, its happened tons of times
It has nothing to do with being rude or polite... The root process is very crude at the moment, recovery is not fully functional and You really can't back up if you fubar your phone... There is a very strong possibility of making a paper weight with the current method ... Just be patient I hear unrEVOked is working on root which won't come out until a solid recovery is running
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Here is a link for anyone needing adb help. i made a post in a thread with links to help users learn adb and understand it. i understand the being new and needing help. the link in the post are the links i used to learn adb and everything with it.
Will go directly to my post with links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12255365&postcount=27
I agree with the OP...it was just the attitude of some of them that was the issue. Very rude and condescending. I do agree that right now it's a crude root method and that without a solid working recovery it's not advisable for anyone but the experienced. BUT that is no reason to denigrate those that want a one click solution down the line when things are solid.
When the Inc first was rooted, I remember the same types of posts about not knowing adb = shouldn't root.
It's just part of the territory. Also it leads to the same hand-holding through the process 50x a day.
It'll pass, just like it did with the Inc
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The above post is correct. Don't let anyone discourage you. We were all new to this at one point, and I don't think there is a single one of us that did not get an impolite comment directed towards a valid question at some point during the learning process.
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People are just rude in general. If you say something someone doesn't agree with, they make damn sure you know they disapprove. I took my leave from the INC forums after the iPhone 4 debacle that happened in the general forum. That and someone told me my ROM list was stupid and worthless in a PM...
I concur, I can ADB like I'm typing a paper (I have extensive command line experience) but my gf, who bought her first android phone recently, can hardly turn a computer on.
Long story short, some people don't want to risk breaking their brand spanking new phone just to have more functionality. If an easy, tried and true method presents itself, people will not only flock to it, but they will gladly give money for it (I know I would). Calling someone a noob or making fun of them is counter-productive and will deter all future forward progress here. No one wants to dev for a bunch of ingrates and jerks.
+1 to the OP.
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When the Inc first was rooted, I remember the same types of posts about not knowing adb = shouldn't root.
It's just part of the territory. Also it leads to the same hand-holding through the process 50x a day.
It'll pass, just like it did with the Inc
Ditto- I know what I don't know. And I don't know adb.
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I agree 100%. Too many jerks here for this forum to be a useful resouce atm. Maybe one day down the line....
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I agree 100%. Too many jerks here for this forum to be a useful resouce atm. Maybe one day down the line....
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I would, respectfully, disagree w/that statement.
IMHO what happens is people get tired of listening to the same questions over and over and over - this is why we have a search button and why google kicks ass too. I think people get snippy after seeing the 8 millionth person come in and ask "what's root" or "what's a ROM".
I'm not sure of the rudeness the OP was mentioning as I haven't seen it in regards to NOOB developers, but from my own personal experience around here I've found this place to be very helpful. I learned all I could about rooting my Eris via google and on another one of the android forums, ultimately a google search landed me here and I took the plunge and rooted and started w/the Kaos ROMS before trying many, many others.
People shouldn't just come in and start asking Q's - they should look around first and when they don't, that's why trouble starts (not here, on ANY forum).
As far as the OP here goes, I haven't read the posts he was talking about, but I can understand why -if somebody was looking for legitimate "how to" info on development and that person was met w/a bunch of crap - they would be frustrated.
I love it here
If you find any rude people pm me about them, I have a hammer
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If you find any rude people pm me about them, I have a hammer
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We also have a chicken and a kraken (sp??) ....
As one of the newer users here, I understand where both sides are coming from. The amount of content here is kind of intimidating for some people, and those who are looking for a "do everything" solution such as one-click root are going to be dissappointed. And then some people are so impatient to root that they'll be pestering people, asking any question that helps them out immediately, not checking for already posted questions, and that's the hand-holding that is being criticized/attacked here.
But I do see where they are coming from. There is a lot of information here that is important, but with the volume of posts, it gets lost, and there seems to be no direct go-to thread or threads for people to ask questions like that in this forum. Unfortunately, not everyone is going to read all the threads here, nor will many set foot in the general Android forums here I think, so they don't know where to start, and many will ask their own questions in their own thread(s).
If anything, some of the most important information that needs to be more accessible IMO is the links to the driver/tweaking the driver for the device to be picked up with adb.
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There is a lot of information here that is important, but with the volume of posts, it gets lost, and there seems to be no direct go-to thread or threads for people to ask questions like that in this forum. Unfortunately, not everyone is going to read all the threads here, nor will many set foot in the general Android forums here I think, so they don't know where to start, and many will ask their own questions in their own thread(s).
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We all have our moments. I tend to answer the questions first, then include something like if you have to ask this, you're probably not ready to do it on your own yet, or here's your answer, but a simple search would have revealed it.
Google and search are our friends. Most of the "old timers" just get annoyed when people ask something that could have easily been found with either a Google search (set site to xda if only interested in xda responses) or with a forum search (search from main area that covers all subsections, use "show posts" and skim through the results), because the same question has been/asked answered dozens of times already.
All that said, the sub-forum structure across devices is inconsistent, the protocols of where to ask/post isn't consistent, and the search feature in xda absolutely SUCKS. I've always considered myself a pretty good query builder to find what I want quickly, but even I have to run through multiple searches to find what I'm looking for. The 30 second delay between being able to start a new query can be very frustrating, if xda dropped that to 10 seconds or so, it would probably encourage more multiple searches before asking. It's no wonder newer members get frustrated, though many are just too lazy or desperate to take the time to look...
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If you find any rude people pm me about them, I have a hammer
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Alright good to know, thank you
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Russ36363 said:
There is a lot of information here that is important, but with the volume of posts, it gets lost, and there seems to be no direct go-to thread or threads for people to ask questions like that in this forum.
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A Q&A sub-forum would help with this. It helped the Fascinate forum out a lot with the very same issues described in this thread.
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Garrett07 said:
Just saying man, coming from the inc forum where we actually help eachother... Its no way to talk to somebody who could actually turn into a decent dev, its happened tons of times
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I just want to say that until last night I HAD no idea how to use adb. One of those devs that you are complaining is so rude, got me the help I needed, to the point that they were on RDP with me and handheld me thru it, even straight did some sections.
In ither words I'm finding nothing but help from the dev community.
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I just want to say that until last night I HAD no idea how to use adb. One of those devs that you are complaining is so rude, got me the help I needed, to the point that they were on RDP with me and handheld me thru it, even straight did some sections.
In ither words I'm finding nothing but help from the dev community.
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I never said they aren't helping, I'm saying that rudeness is not what forum communities need to be based on, its not right that people have to have attitude online, nor in general, people come to forums for help and communication they don't want to get on a thread and see that somebody has posted a reply being rude to their work and or statement, its just something I'd like to see change but it never will
whos got the most stable kermal at high speeds out yet?
So far Ziggy's 4.4 is doing wonders for me.
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So far Ziggy's 4.4 is doing wonders for me.
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Using his cfs kernel at 1.57ghz. Works at 1.8 but don't wanna kill my battery that fast
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whos got the most stable kermal at high speeds out yet?
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how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651
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how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651
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I hate to say it but some people just don't care all he wants is an answer and he will vanish until he has another question. Sucks and is bull but is just how forums go.
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how is it that you still keep posting threads that belong in general in the dev forums? you have been told this is the wrong place for topics like this in numerous other threads and yet still you persist in behaving as though the rules do not apply to you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021699
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021651
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I agree that this belongs in the general forums, but lighten up bro. Lol its not the end of the world. Obviously a few people answered his question so not everyone has there panties in a bunch. Try to stay off that high horse cuz it really makes you sound like a big nerd. Just say it nicely.
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I agree that this belongs in the general forums, but lighten up bro. Lol its not the end of the world. Obviously a few people answered his question so not everyone has there panties in a bunch. Try to stay off that high horse cuz it really makes you sound like a big nerd. Just say it nicely.
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The first time it happens might not warrant such an aggressive response but PURPOSEFUL and REPEAT disregard of forum rules, even minor ones, is obviously a touchy subject and really shouldn't be taken lightly. I'm going to side with fhornmikey on this one.
He doesn't sound like a big nerd but someone who just wants others to follow the rules (not an unreasonable request especially considering the OP has been informed of them on more than one occasion).
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The first time it happens might not warrant such an aggressive response but PURPOSEFUL and REPEAT disregard of forum rules, even minor ones, is obviously a touchy subject and really shouldn't be taken lightly. I'm going to side with fhornmikey on this one.
He doesn't sound like a big nerd but someone who just wants others to follow the rules (not an unreasonable request especially considering the OP has been informed of them on more than one occasion).
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Im not saying they shouldn't follow the rules, I definitely agree that they should. My point is that he really sounds silly trying to be so stern, I mean does he really think it will change anything? Cuz I would bet anything it won't. Some people just don't understand the rules or care.
PS aren't we kinda crowding up the forums and wasting time by even discussing this?
lol stern, it's always amazing what people read into text on the internet.
I just think the guy is obnoxious and should learn to click on the proper subforum.
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lol stern, it's always amazing what people read into text on the internet.
I just think the guy is obnoxious and should learn to click on the proper subforum.
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I just think its not even worth complaining about
It's nice to keep these forums somewhat organized. I agree no biggie if someone does it once. But if your repeatedly told to post in the right section and don't that's just stupid and disrespectful. That said, its a good topic and I'm digging ziggys latest cfs
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there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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Hahaha. I liked this post the most! Life's a *****...
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there is officially more posts *****ing about the *****er than there is posts answering the *****ee's original *****
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Haha I can barely even follow that, but I believe you are right. Lets all move on. Clean slate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024338
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021928
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022460
You cant go wrong with any of these kernels. It all comes down to personal preferance and how hard you like to run your Bolt. I used drod's kernels pretty much since he dropped the first, his are good. Adrynalyne has alot of knowledge and I trust that his work well. Ziggy, I know nothing of him or his work, but Ive heard from people I trust he knows what hes doing and that his kernels for the bolt are top notch all-around.
Hope this was helpful op...
it is SUPER annoying if people do it over and over again. I don't want the forums to be unwelcoming to newcomers who haven't been exposed to the way things are done.... but for repeat offenders I think they should be banned after the 2nd warning. at least temporarily.
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I just think its not even worth complaining about
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I think it is. I come to the dev forum to look for new roms and kernels but I've seen a few questions form this guy.
I'm new here and to android and I try not to be obnoxious, I've use adrynalynes and now one of ziggy's and they are both awesome.
i figured people mainly come to the dev forum for this stuff and answers. so, so sorry i misposted about kernals on the dev side... geez
thanks guys, sorry about the wrong tread, been on oxies last few days, was in a vehicle accident.
i found drods 1.5 kernal the best so far or me, or for my phone atleast
Hey, it may seem weird, but I was wondering if there was anyway to put windows phone 7 on the htc inspire. I wanted to get a windows 7 phone, but all the ones from AT&T suck, so I just chose this one. I like it, but it would be nice to see how this would work on it. Thanks!
How about you search first....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049522
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this answered absolutely nothing.
and i like how everyone talks about how stupid it is to want wp7 or other OS's on an android phone...or that we should just go buy a wp7 phone if we want that. Yet when people bring up the HD2, it is the coolest phone in the world because of its 'hackability' and the fact it can run most any OS, including wp7.
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How about you search first....
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I did search. the only ones that are there all turn into why one would do this, not how. I gave my"why" in the original post, so to not derail the thread.
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Thank you for the link, I appreciate it, but unfortunately it doesn't say how to do so.
I was browsing a bit more and I noticed that the HTC desire and inspire are basically the same,so i was wondering if maybe anyone has made it for the desire.
I said to search so you can see there's (currently) no way to do this. So instead of creating a new thread, you could've posted in one of the existing threads to ask your lovely question. If there was a way, don't you think the existing threads would include the "how to"?
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...i like how everyone talks about how stupid it is to want wp7 or other OS's on an android phone...or that we should just go buy a wp7 phone if we want that. Yet when people bring up the HD2, it is the coolest phone in the world because of its 'hackability' and the fact it can run most any OS, including wp7.
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I agree, I remember reading that post and thinking the same thing. Phones that have the ability to boot multiple operating systems are lauded for how awesome they are, yet until it is discovered how the nay sayers drag on about how stupid that is.
I remember having an iPhone, and when they were trying to get Android to boot on it there were these huge posts about how stupid that was and why would you ever want to boot crappy Android on the holy phone...then as soon as it was booting Android people were falling over themselves to dust off the old 3G and fire up Android, then run around showing everyone how cool it was that they could dual boot.
If someone gets WP7 to boot on the Inspire, I'd love to give it a whirl. Hell, I'd even boot WM6.5 with Sense if it was possible. It just great fun.
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this answered absolutely nothing.
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Actually, it did.
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Thank you for the link, I appreciate it, but unfortunately it doesn't say how to do so.
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That's the point. It was to point out this exact question had been asked fairly recently and the consensus was you can't install WP7 yet. The HD2 and Inspire/Desire HD are fairly significantly different pieces of hardware, saying the HD2 can do something why can't the Inspire is comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention, there are several other threads regarding WP7 on the Desire HD and the answers are all pretty much "no" or "not yet".
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I never said it was stupid not to have it on the Inspire, I simply gave you the tools to come to your own conclusion that it's not currently possible.
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Actually, it did.
That's the point. It was to point out this exact question had been asked fairly recently and the consensus was you can't install WP7 yet. The HD2 and Inspire/Desire HD are fairly significantly different pieces of hardware, saying the HD2 can do something why can't the Inspire is comparing apples to oranges. Not to mention, there are several other threads regarding WP7 on the Desire HD and the answers are all pretty much "no" or "not yet".
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I never said it was stupid not to have it on the Inspire, I simply gave you the tools to come to your own conclusion that it's not currently possible.
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ohhh so since they are different hardware it won't work!! right
how about when capy got the sensation rom ported to the DHD, and everyone said it wouldn't work on the HD2??? Look at that, it is booted and at the same point as the DHD rom is.
Yup, the hardware is obviously completely different...they are completely different phones. That doesn't mean wp7 will never boot on a dhd. Just takes someone with the know-how to go through with the port. ATM, i don't know of anyone even trying, but i sure wish someone would!!
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ohhh so since they are different hardware it won't work!! right
how about when capy got the sensation rom ported to the DHD, and everyone said it wouldn't work on the HD2??? Look at that, it is booted and at the same point as the DHD rom is.
Yup, the hardware is obviously completely different...they are completely different phones. That doesn't mean wp7 will never boot on a dhd. Just takes someone with the know-how to go through with the port. ATM, i don't know of anyone even trying, but i sure wish someone would!!
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So you fail at reading comprehension and then try to mock me over it? Classy. Do you have other party tricks?
Damn yall got arrested by the search police lmfao!
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dzelaya18 said:
I agree, I remember reading that post and thinking the same thing. Phones that have the ability to boot multiple operating systems are lauded for how awesome they are, yet until it is discovered how the nay sayers drag on about how stupid that is.
I remember having an iPhone, and when they were trying to get Android to boot on it there were these huge posts about how stupid that was and why would you ever want to boot crappy Android on the holy phone...then as soon as it was booting Android people were falling over themselves to dust off the old 3G and fire up Android, then run around showing everyone how cool it was that they could dual boot.
If someone gets WP7 to boot on the Inspire, I'd love to give it a whirl. Hell, I'd even boot WM6.5 with Sense if it was possible. It just great fun.
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Perfectly said sir... perfect.
djzikario said:
Damn yall got arrested by the search police lmfao!
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Arrested and raped. They're probably just mad because it was my first post here and they thought I was a typical annoying new user. But what they don't realize is that theres also another purpose of making the thread, more threads = more demand. Someone with the knowledge might see the demand in doing so and would therefore be more interested to do it. None of the threads were on the front of the page so I don't see why it's such a big deal.
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Arrested and raped. They're probably just mad because it was my first post here and they thought I was a typical annoying new user. But what they don't realize is that theres also another purpose of making the thread, more threads = more demand. Someone with the knowledge might see the demand in doing so and would therefore be more interested to do it. None of the threads were on the front of the page so I don't see why it's such a big deal.
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If you were to post in the existing threads, it will bring them to the front page.
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I said to search so you can see there's (currently) no way to do this. So instead of creating a new thread, you could've posted in one of the existing threads to ask your lovely question. If there was a way, don't you think the existing threads would include the "how to"?
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real nice attitude for a senior member...some of you need to check your attitudes at the door. All he did was ask a simple question. scoot over to the rules section and familiarize yourself with the rules. (pay close attention to the word respect) you are lacking it here. There are several people here on XDA with poor attitudes. If you don't have the patience to guide, and help others, then don't respond. Some people have a difficult time navigating the site. I've been seeing more and more of this type of treatment by senior members and it's ridiculous.
.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
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real nice attitude for a senior member...some of you need to check your attitudes at the door. All he did was ask a simple question. scoot over to the rules section and familiarize yourself with the rules. (pay close attention to the word respect) you are lacking it here. There are several people here on XDA with poor attitudes. If you don't have the patience to guide, and help others, then don't respond. Some people have a difficult time navigating the site. I've been seeing more and more of this type of treatment by senior members and it's ridiculous.
.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
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Wonderful that you took the time to write this novel.
Part of the rules is not to post multiple threads asking the same question, like the op did. He was given an answer in his 1st thread that asked the same question. So someone else needs to chill out. I always help other members when I can and others appreciate my help. I am not here to argue with anyone. Just pointed out in my other post that its been discussed and this was unnecessary. Have a nice day!
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Wonderful that you took the time to write this novel.
Part of the rules is not to post multiple threads asking the same question, like the op did. He was given an answer in his 1st thread that asked the same question. SO someone else needs to chill out. I always help other members when I can. I am not here to argue with anyone. Just pointed out in my other post that its been discussed and this was unnecessary. Have a nice day!
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Another example of a poor attitude.
wrenchmonkey26 said:
Another example of a poor attitude.
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Sorry if you are that sensitive. Seriously... Move on.
The only way you MIGHT see this happen is if wp7 was released on a device with the exact same hardware as an android device.
Since the important parts of wp7 are closed source it is unlikely anyone with the ability will dedicate themselves to such a task. Much less deal with the legal consequences if they did it.
So no it isn't going to happen.
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Sorry if you are that sensitive. Seriously... Move on.
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I've read several of your posts to other members, and you have this attitude with several members. Looks like somebody has anger issues...Doesn't take much to get you upset; and you call me sensitive? if you can't be helpful, without being obnoxious, don't reply. Be a part of the solution; not part of the problem.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-a-way-to-unlock-to-those-who-wish-to-do-so/
The last comment seems to suggest Moto could be following in HTC's footsteps. Sorry if I posted in the wrong section. Just seems like the best news we have gotten in regards to our atrix 2
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Seems like you are blind.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764700
When will people learn to use forums.
When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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DarrellRaines said:
When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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He posted this in the wrong forum. How does this even have anything to do Development on the Atrix 2?
The answer, it doesn't.
I know that myself and the other devs in here, are so tired of people who don't follow the rules and make idiot posts, and you go and stick up for another one of these dumb posts.... you can go join him in the banned category.
Please learn how to search there are several posts in the last 24 hours about this.
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He posted this in the wrong forum. How does this even have anything to do Development on the Atrix 2?
The answer, it doesn't.
I know that myself and the other devs in here, are so tired of people who don't follow the rules and make idiot posts, and you go and stick up for another one of these dumb posts.... you can go join him in the banned category.
Please learn how to search there are several posts in the last 24 hours about this.
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Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.
Sorry for posting this, I usually just check the Development section. I thought it was noteworthy, would be happy to delete this to clean up the Development section if someone can tell me how. I have been a XDA member for a long time but I rarely post, so I am not sure how to delete the thread if it is even possible. Hopefully this does mean good news for us Atrix 2 owners if Motorola decides to start unlocking program like HTC.
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Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.
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I totally agree. It is not the OP that I am getting on here, it is DarrellRaines... he is not a noob, obviously from is post count, so he should know the rules better.
lkrasner said:
Look, I am Kind of in the middle here. It does piss me off big time when people do this, but I understand. Do you remember the **** storm that came when we had the first ICS leak? there were like 50 posts ad 100s in one topic repeating things.
My point is that sometimes people do just get excited and forget to read. I do get mad, but I have some forgiveness if they admit their wrongness and delete it.
I know XDA is about the developers, but none of us started that way. Most of us learned from this forum, we started as n00bs. I remember the first time I softbricked my phone, and freaked out. I spent hours researching how to get it back. Now I could do it in my sleep (and sort of have).
I certainly am not at your level yet, but I do know what I am doing a lot more than I did 709 posts and 225 thanks ago. I originally thought to myself "how am I ever going to get 10 posts" when I was trying to post in the dev section.
Let people know when they are being dumb, but have some forgiveness as long as they realize it and fix it.
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Exactly! Why banish the noob who is trying to learn. Or just does not know. The whole point to this website is a community of devs, phone enthusiasts, and geeks.
I actually find it quite rude. Maybe if this post was fake. Or maybe it linked you to a rick roll ....whatever then I would laugh and be annoyed.
All I'm saying is that this person was trying to help. They posted something of value that some of us had no knowledge of.
Just my 2 cents.
Hit the thanks button if I helped or if I just made you laugh!!!
Actually an unlocked boot loader has a fair amount of something to do with the dev section but hey what do I know. I'm just the guy tired of people being dicks and pricks to people who screw up.
Thanks for not letting me down on the posts. Albeit I was expecting more...I don't know...maybe just more.
My point is instead of insulting the guy by calling him blind, he could have been decent and simply stated it had been posted and just say please check.
Its a common theme here. As soon as someone has their own rom they tend to become raging pricks and think they own the dev section. I could be just seeing things one way but its seems to be how things have been lately.
Now if the mods feel I should be banned for calling people out on being less than nice, oh well. There are worse things in the world than being kicked off a forum for 24 hours. I'd say being rude to a guy trying to be helpful would be one but u digress.
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A common theme in here is that people don't read before posting. We are cluttered with the same bootloader, cm9 and ics posts on a daily basis.
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tmease1 said:
A common theme in here is that people don't read before posting. We are cluttered with the same bootloader, cm9 and ics posts on a daily basis.
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I won't argue that. Its annoying to say the least, but we shouldn't expect everyone to magically follow the rules and be rude to people. People can disagree and hate me all they want, but being rude and callous has never once helped a situation.
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Man...even just the browser. Google. Bing that ****, whatever. Way easier anyway right? I'm sure that's how most of us started reading up on androids and rooting. Rules are given to you in the begining to read for a reason. I know most people don't read that cuz they think it's bull**** or whatever. But it is what it is...rules are rules. Just like laws...sure you can break em n get away with it here n there or minor infractions. But get the wrong Mod up in here n you can kiss your ass goodbye on a lil vacation. I know this from expeirence in other Forums. It's cool to give out news but do it in the right spot, or just reply to a thread already made. Posting a new thread should be a last resort if you cannot find your topic anywhere! Whatever, dude made a mistake. First reply could've been a little more humble about it and informative I guess. And OP should have searched before posting. Let's delete and move on...Don't make em walk the plank...we all family here right? Hahahaha.
Edit: and post #3 should know better too man. Come at dude in a better way. Like Jim said, That flaming stuff makes you look bad on the forums n no one will wanna help you out in the future. It's cool man, mistakes are made. We're not perfect.
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Actually an unlocked boot loader has a fair amount of something to do with the dev section but hey what do I know. I'm just the guy tired of people being dicks and pricks to people who screw up.
Thanks for not letting me down on the posts. Albeit I was expecting more...I don't know...maybe just more.
My point is instead of insulting the guy by calling him blind, he could have been decent and simply stated it had been posted and just say please check.
Its a common theme here. As soon as someone has their own rom they tend to become raging pricks and think they own the dev section. I could be just seeing things one way but its seems to be how things have been lately.
Now if the mods feel I should be banned for calling people out on being less than nice, oh well. There are worse things in the world than being kicked off a forum for 24 hours. I'd say being rude to a guy trying to be helpful would be one but u digress.
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In a way you right that an unlocked bootloader should have something to do with dev work, but again the rules state that ONLY your own work goes into the dev section. Not Q&A or posts that have some information about an unlocked bootloader, or even a ROM from another phone you want a dev to port. All of those things belong in the General section.
The reason I get frustrated is because I give my time and effort and a whole lot of my non-working time, freely I might add, to dev work here on XDA, so when there is little respect shown to the rules, that also shows little respect to the developers in here. I will have to say that your post was way worse than the OPs mistake, because you also showed little respect for the developers on here. and your last post showed even less respect for our devs in here.
And yes I will totally admit that the guy calling the OP blind was uncalled for, but again by doing what you have done shows little respect to our dev community and that makes me not want to read your posts or help you out if you get in a bind.
DarrellRaines said:
When will people stop being pricks and show some common respect?
The guy was trying to be helpful.
*waits for the "I'm tired of noobs who don't search, read rules, and so on responses and all the others.*
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I am with you. How about we simply say- "Hey thanks for posting this. It does belong elsewhere. Let me help you..."
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I am with you. How about we simply say- "Hey thanks for posting this. It does belong elsewhere. Let me help you..."
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Just PM the Guy and take it offline, no need to reply to a bad thread. These things blow up so fast it is not even funny.
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In a way you right that an unlocked bootloader should have something to do with dev work, but again the rules state that ONLY your own work goes into the dev section. Not Q&A or posts that have some information about an unlocked bootloader, or even a ROM from another phone you want a dev to port. All of those things belong in the General section.
The reason I get frustrated is because I give my time and effort and a whole lot of my non-working time, freely I might add, to dev work here on XDA, so when there is little respect shown to the rules, that also shows little respect to the developers in here. I will have to say that your post was way worse than the OPs mistake, because you also showed little respect for the developers on here. and your last post showed even less respect for our devs in here.
And yes I will totally admit that the guy calling the OP blind was uncalled for, but again by doing what you have done shows little respect to our dev community and that makes me not want to read your posts or help you out if you get in a bind.
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Jim for the record you are one of the few that I actually like. That said you are doing exactly what I was talking about. You don't need to pat yourself on the back or tell us who you are and what you do. We know already. We've all been here long enough to know your contributions.
Again people can hate me, but I have to speak my mind when I have something to say. Its who I am. You can call it as you see it just as I did with the first response.
If anyone feels I don't contribute, so be it. If they don't want to help me, so be it. I'm a big boy and can manage to figure it out. I'm still going to speak my mind. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for doing it as long as they dont insult people...well at least insult them with a little class.
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I might have been harsh but this forum is getting bloated everyday by dupe posts n irrelevant questions that have already been answered N number of times.And for a person posting n following bootloader news and checking atrix2 section for development it aint that hard to check other and new posts.How many times has everyone said here that please look before you repost please use search..Had OP done a little search on the topic he would have got the result.Forget about that even while making a new thread if your topic name is same XDA throws up search result, Still people go on making same topic threads again for what ? just to gain posts ? This is not the way someone behaves on forum.Forums have rules and they are meant to be followed.But people don't and look at our forum its so much bloated had everyone followed atleast one rule of searching or looking out there would have been loads of less threads.Also do people really think that posting a topic 1-2 days after its originally posted somewhere is really smart ? Come on this is not your group of friends its INTERNET and it includes people over the world and people who are much smarter than me you or anyone.Accept it.So just give a thought you dont even have to do mathematics,simple logic says that someone would have already posted it,could have search just for sake of that..But again who cares some break rules some take the sides of those who break rules.Can't help and the post like what i made comes out of frustration and losing patience.
PS : A video from XDA for all those who think rules are flexible and taken for granted and there is always a first time :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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Archmag3 said:
I might have been harsh but this forum is getting bloated everyday by dupe posts n irrelevant questions that have already been answered N number of times.And for a person posting n following bootloader news and checking atrix2 section for development it aint that hard to check other and new posts.How many times has everyone said here that please look before you repost please use search..Had OP done a little search on the topic he would have got the result.Forget about that even while making a new thread if your topic name is same XDA throws up search result, Still people go on making same topic threads again for what ? just to gain posts ? This is not the way someone behaves on forum.Forums have rules and they are meant to be followed.But people don't and look at our forum its so much bloated had everyone followed atleast one rule of searching or looking out there would have been loads of less threads.Also do people really think that posting a topic 1-2 days after its originally posted somewhere is really smart ? Come on this is not your group of friends its INTERNET and it includes people over the world and people who are much smarter than me you or anyone.Accept it.So just give a thought you dont even have to do mathematics,simple logic says that someone would have already posted it,could have search just for sake of that..But again who cares some break rules some take the sides of those who break rules.Can't help and the post like what i made comes out of frustration and losing patience.
PS : A video from XDA for all those who think rules are flexible and taken for granted and there is always a first time :
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WOW that video is so old, it is not even funny. I remember when I first signed up on this site, the very first login that popped up before I could pull up the forum. I wonder if they still do that for all the n00bs when they first login.
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WOW that video is so old, it is not even funny. I remember when I first signed up on this site, the very first login that popped up before I could pull up the forum. I wonder if they still do that for all the n00bs when they first login.
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I've been on here for a couple of years and never seen it. Maybe Archmag3 should keep that video for tomorrows repeated questions or posts.
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tmease1 said:
I've been on here for a couple of years and never seen it. Maybe Archmag3 should keep that video for tomorrows repeated questions or posts.
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Haha..That made me laugh :laugh: but no seriously everyone should just post that video instead of posting anything else for repeated questions or posts/threads