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Did everybody miss it?
For whoever did miss it - AT&T is not getting t-mobile,
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t-mobile is getting some money out of it, which has absolutely no importance to us.
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some spectrum which right now also doesn't matter to us.
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a roaming agreement with AT&T which, depending on the agreement might have a tremendous importance to us
how cool is that???
well, roaming costs $... :sigh:
It was all a waste of T-Mobiles time/money, imo.
But the Offer to buy t-mobile (by anyone) is still on the table.
Sounds like Google and Dish Networks are interested.
roaming is free so it's not a problem but having at&t coverage is nice.
Rumors about google -tmobile were around since google came out with android and they still didn't make the move so I guess it's off the table.
Now, dish - possibly, but there are now rumors that at&t is actually interested in buying dish so go figure.
For at&t there are no options really. They need the spectrum so no matter what they have to buy something or die.
Tmobile gets in excess of 3 billion from at and t not a waste
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Tmobile gets in excess of 3 billion from at and t not a waste
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Tmo's parent company DT will get that money. They have made it clear they are not interested in investing any more in Tmo usa. They desparately want to get rid off Tmo usa.
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Also think of all the jobs were saved by the justice departments intervening in the takeover. From those who sell T-Mobile phones and services to all the people in corporate and IT. Thousands of people have a new lease on their livelihoods.
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This is pretty turrrrible. how can they do that? Unlocked bootloader for 15$ per month? Might make me hold onto my S3 for alot longer than I anticipated.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-X-to-launch-July-8th-for-299_id38955
Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
I doubt any of that info is true. Just my two cents.
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Smells like bull****.
Even if true, you should unlock the bootloader using tools found on XDA and then donate the $15 to the awesome devs here, thus making the world a better place
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Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
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T-Mobile service is terrible though. Two bars of 4G in my bedroom with verizon, data dropping on the note II on T-Mobile. Literally would drop 4G to 3G and back and forth and data was unusable. Both sat pretty close to -111dBm.
Might be going back to sprint. Least I know from having had them I get their 3G. Can't wait for their LTE.
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Evan that link states its speculation. This is not an official statement. Why would Goggle and Moto not work? And as stated you can buy it ditect .
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T-Mobile service is terrible though. Two bars of 4G in my bedroom with verizon, data dropping on the note II on T-Mobile. Literally would drop 4G to 3G and back and forth and data was unusable. Both sat pretty close to -111dBm.
Might be going back to sprint. Least I know from having had them I get their 3G. Can't wait for their LTE.
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Lol in my area, tmo gets >20 mbps hspa+ speeds. Sprint has actually no service. Verizon is the best, but eh I'll deal.
Not being an official statement, I suspect the article is full of fertilizer.
....sigh...just because it's on the internet it doesn't mean it's true. Plus for it to be a trend, this would need to be happening with other devices already, which is not.
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Well, that's one site, so it may not be true. My guess is that Moto and Google won't work together and make a non-Nexus phone. But, in the case that this is true, its reason #187324 to get the hell of Verizon, as I will be doing in August. Easily the worst carrier CS-wise. Cost me $65 to return the DNA. I'm just done. T-Mobile take my significantly smaller sum of money.
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You do know that google now owns Moto Phones right?
Lol if this is true, Verizon is full of shit.. You can unlock your phones as long as you pay us. LOL
I read the article on droid life, it has to do with unlocking the phone to use on another carrier.I think we'll be just fine if it truly is bad why would they start charging $15a month extra for unlocked phone's (which is ridiculous) they may have the best service but they truly become money hungry....T-Mobile is slowly catching up...maybe in the future they'll take big red's crown.never under estimate the under dog.my opponent did and lost
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You do know that google now owns Moto Phones right?
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Yeah... That's why it would be weird for it not to be a Nexus.
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Have a GN. Looking to upgrade to n5 but it doesn't look like Verizon will support it. Rightfully so. They really just don't get the android Dev experience. If I was to switch to another carrier what would be the next best choice. Live in Northeast USA. If I don't switch carrier what would be some other comparable phone choices that boot loader is unlockable and rootable. What choices are there. Lg g2. Note 3. Galaxy S4 kind of old all ready. Moto x. What would you do and why
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Have a GN. Looking to upgrade to n5 but it doesn't look like Verizon will support it. Rightfully so. They really just don't get the android Dev experience. If I was to switch to another carrier what would be the next best choice. Live in Northeast USA. If I don't switch carrier what would be some other comparable phone choices that boot loader is unlockable and rootable. What choices are there. Lg g2. Note 3. Galaxy S4 kind of old all ready. Moto x. What would you do and why
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Just get the LG G2...I mean, the nexus 5 is based off the G2...G2 has a bigger screen bigger battery and higher mp camera tho, you will however have to either sign a contract or pay alot of money off contract for it
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mg2195 said:
Just get the LG G2...I mean, the nexus 5 is based off the G2...G2 has a bigger screen bigger battery and higher mp camera tho, you will however have to either sign a contract or pay alot of money off contract for it
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Also worried about being able to root. Since Verizon seems to want to lock down devices. Also don't know what to do about the unlimited data I have. Don't want to pay retail but might have to to keep it. Is it worth it. With the nexus 5 I would probably jump ship. Verizon has lost interest in taking care of the customers who made them what they are. They simply don't mind losing customers when new ones walk in the door. What would be a second choice of carrier. T-Mobile. Sprint. At&t. Choosing should not be this difficult but this is what Verizon has done to customers. Bad business practice with customers and Google alike.
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Have a GN. Looking to upgrade to n5 but it doesn't look like Verizon will support it. Rightfully so. They really just don't get the android Dev experience. If I was to switch to another carrier what would be the next best choice. Live in Northeast USA. If I don't switch carrier what would be some other comparable phone choices that boot loader is unlockable and rootable. What choices are there. Lg g2. Note 3. Galaxy S4 kind of old all ready. Moto x. What would you do and why
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I still have unlimited data through Verizon on my GNex, and when the Nexus 5 drops I am getting rid of Verizon!
I am really liking the wireless plans (no contract) offered by AIO. They were bought out by ATT and and it basically uses the ATT LTE nationwide network.
I plan on ditching my GNex and getting a Nexus 5 and signing up for AIO's $70 plan. I will save about $30 a month from what I am paying to Verizon and I'll be able to enjoy the Nexus experience
I can't stand the phones the Verizon offers anymore (no nexus, etc) and I want a phone that I can use on multiple carriers and around the world. Screw Verizon!
jmileti said:
Have a GN. Looking to upgrade to n5 but it doesn't look like Verizon will support it. Rightfully so. They really just don't get the android Dev experience. If I was to switch to another carrier what would be the next best choice. Live in Northeast USA. If I don't switch carrier what would be some other comparable phone choices that boot loader is unlockable and rootable. What choices are there. Lg g2. Note 3. Galaxy S4 kind of old all ready. Moto x. What would you do and why
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Just leave Verizon. Too much BS in that crap company. Go to At&t or T-Mobile. I live in the northeast and had At&t for almost twenty years only switched recently to T-Mobile because of the uncarrier stuff
AndreaCristiano said:
Just leave Verizon. Too much BS in that crap company. Go to At&t or T-Mobile. I live in the northeast and had At&t for almost twenty years only switched recently to T-Mobile because of the uncarrier stuff
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What do you mean uncarrier stuff. I travel all over new england so I need an adequate carrier. Plan on leaving Verizon but don't want to hop on board with the wrong carrier for what I need.
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Get the n5 with att then. It seems you are used to the price and coverage. I know tmo is great in the urban areas up the eastern seaboard but if you go anywhere like upstate new York etc it gets sparse. I've been on T-Mobile for more than 10 years and fortunate to always be within good coverage but I would probably have to go with evil att if I traveled a lot. Verizon has the best coverage and same prices as att, but no Sim card or way to root the majority of their phones, I would have to go with att
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What do you mean uncarrier stuff. I travel all over new england so I need an adequate carrier. Plan on leaving Verizon but don't want to hop on board with the wrong carrier for what I need.
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The new pricing and format. Their network works almost everywhere. If your unsure go At&t it works everywhere
New data stats for 2014 are out and it looks like ATT is giving VZW a run for their money with T-Mobile trailing as a close third. ATT data plans are a little cheaper than T-Mobile, but they do not have an unlimited tier, T-Mobile does however and they finance the Nexus 5. From my understanding, ATT supports the Nexus 5, but don't offer financing, so buying it retail from Google or second hand is the only option, which I plan on doing in a few months.
I'm thinking about switching after the holidays and was wondering if the GS3 for VZW is compatible with either carrier's data bands. Has anyone successfully switched to ATT or T-Mobile using the GS3 subsidised by VZW?
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Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Just sell the gs3 for $225 on swappa add $125 of your money and buy a n5.
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Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Restola said:
Just sell the gs3 for $225 on swappa add $125 of your money and buy a n5.
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Well that sucks, VZW is like communist Russia or something lol.. I would just sell it however its like a year old with some wear.. Doubt I'd be able to get more than $150 for it. I don't mind paying retail, figure switch to a cheaper carrier, keep the GS3 for 4-5 months and save the monthly difference for a new N5.. Guess that's not possible since they use different bands.
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Can't, Vzw is cdma. Att and T-Mobile are gsm
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Not quite true. You can, but you be stuck on Edge (no HSPA+ or LTE AFAIK). But as previous posters have stated, your best off selling the verizon device and picking up a Tmo one (Most Tmo devices work on ATT and Tmo, Many ATT devices are locked to ATT).
And I would compare Verizon to totalitarian Russia, but message received. =)
None of this matters for those who need all over cell service. I travel all over the midwest, att, tmobile, and sprint all suck for coverage area. If they are good in your area and you dont travel, go for it. You will have little to no rural coverage which also means no data in those areas.
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None of this matters for those who need all over cell service. I travel all over the midwest, att, tmobile, and sprint all suck for coverage area. If they are good in your area and you dont travel, go for it. You will have little to no rural coverage which also means no data in those areas.
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I'd stick with VZW if they still supported nexus devices and weren't trying to lock down everything else, guess there's no incentive for them to do so. ATT has a little over half the amount of towers VZW has with faster data transfer, T-Mobile has about a third and Sprint's LTE is still in infancy.
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From what I've read, you sacrifice 4g by using this phone on T-Mobile. That's all.
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Shibby87 said:
I'd stick with VZW if they still supported nexus devices and weren't trying to lock down everything else, guess there's no incentive for them to do so. ATT has a little over half the amount of towers VZW has with faster data transfer, T-Mobile has about a third and Sprint's LTE is still in infancy.
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No incentive indeed. Big red is losing points with me fast.. especially since losing my unlimited data. Sprint's LTE is an absolute joke at this point, but it seems the silver lining is T-mobile's expanding network. If they support your area and you don't need to travel much, an unlocked Nexus 5 on their $30/mo plan is looking very tempting. The 100 minutes a month thing sucks, but there's always voip alternatives.
Probably best here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886399
Wish they had 64gb. 5 to choose from.
Edit: order 32gb black 9-6 and now backordered as of 9-8 with no date of next shipment.:what:
NEW Link.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...t=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys
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on Amazon also. I'm wondering though, if the White version on Amazon and Best Buy is actually the White with Champagne frame as it's shown in the pictures, bc that's the one that I want, and it's not available via Moto Maker anymore.
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on Amazon also. I'm wondering though, if the White version on Amazon and Best Buy is actually the White with Champagne frame as it's shown in the pictures, bc that's the one that I want, and it's not available via Moto Maker anymore.
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Don't know. I wish same options were somehow available in store.
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No 64Gb version though., so will be my first phone not from BB in years. Well, assuming battery life is better than initial reviews state.
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No 64Gb version though., so will be my first phone not from BB in years. Well, assuming battery life is better than initial reviews state.
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Honestly why not buy from Motorola directly via Moto maker? If you don't like just ship it back for free and no questions asked.
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Honestly why not buy from Motorola directly via Moto maker? If you don't like just ship it back for free and no questions asked.
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I like face to face. Return at mall. Way easier and faster. But I still may bite the bullet and order on moto maker cause 64 GB not available elsewhere as of now.
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Available for preorder on bestbuy now. Just placed my order, should be here Friday, and got to use reward points
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As a Verizon users who already pre-ordered from Moto, this is a little concerning:
"* Phone will not work with Sprint, Verizon, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile or any other CDMA carriers. Please contact your carrier prior to purchasing to confirm your carrier will support voice and data on this unlocked GSM device." - from the BB site linked in OP.
I know it supposedly has the bands to work on VZ, what do you guys think?
Edit: This DL article shows that it does have CDMA Bands for Verizon: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/07/28/moto-x-pure-edition-bands-verizon/ I'm still nervous though.
If it has expandable memory, why would you overpay for bigger internal storage? Just curious.
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As a Verizon users who already pre-ordered from Moto, this is a little concerning:
"* Phone will not work with Sprint, Verizon, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile or any other CDMA carriers. Please contact your carrier prior to purchasing to confirm your carrier will support voice and data on this unlocked GSM device." - from the BB site linked in OP.
I know it supposedly has the bands to work on VZ, what do you guys think?
Edit: This DL article shows that it does have CDMA Bands for Verizon: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/07/28/moto-x-pure-edition-bands-verizon/ I'm still nervous though.
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Disregard that disclaimer. That is there standard disclaimer. I am on Verizon and I am ordering as we speak
Also edited link in op. 5 to chose from.
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If it has expandable memory, why would you overpay for bigger internal storage? Just curious.
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Just to have. Lol. Plus not everything can be on an sdcard.
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I like face to face. Return at mall. Way easier and faster. But I still may bite the bullet and order on moto maker cause 64 GB not available elsewhere as of now.
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I did order a 64gb, but will return quickly if battery life does not last a day for my use. The Note 4 does, so that will be my litmus.
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If it has expandable memory, why would you overpay for bigger internal storage? Just curious.
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More total storage and more room for apps. I will leave the option off in M that combines storage, so can use the sd as media only. I have a 200gb card and has my entire music collection and also some movies, game roms, comics, books and Gear VR media. I like my stuff in one local place. Convenient and zero reliance on cloud or OTG storage.
Personal choice
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I did order a 64gb, but will return quickly if battery life does not last a day for my use. The Note 4 does, so that will be my litmus.
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64 GB not from bestbuy. Unless I missed something
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I Moto made a black 64gb.
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As a Verizon users who already pre-ordered from Moto, this is a little concerning:
"* Phone will not work with Sprint, Verizon, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile or any other CDMA carriers. Please contact your carrier prior to purchasing to confirm your carrier will support voice and data on this unlocked GSM device." - from the BB site linked in OP.
I know it supposedly has the bands to work on VZ, what do you guys think?
Edit: This DL article shows that it does have CDMA Bands for Verizon: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/07/28/moto-x-pure-edition-bands-verizon/ I'm still nervous though.
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Matt, the forums manager at the Motorola Support Forums said he is using one on Verizon right now. He also stated that simultaneous voice and data is also functioning.
Source: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e570e4be47?page=1
I live in Windsor, Ontario. I want to cross the border and go to a best buy to purchase the moto pure. Do they sell it outright in stores over in the USA or online only? Here I can't purchase phones outright at best buy, it has to be on a new contract to get phones from them.
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I live in Windsor, Ontario. I want to cross the border and go to a best buy to purchase the moto pure. Do they sell it outright in stores over in the USA or online only? Here I can't purchase phones outright at best buy, it has to be on a new contract to get phones from them.
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I would suggest calling the store that you plan on going to and ask them. I wouldn't trust the online store availability, I've had the website say "unavailable" when a product was actually available at the store.
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I would suggest calling the store that you plan on going to and ask them. I wouldn't trust the online store availability, I've had the website say "unavailable" when a product was actually available at the store.
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Yeah that's a good idea. But do they sell phones outright over there or do they have to be on a new contract to get a phone? At the best buy here you can't buy phones from them without getting a new contract.
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Right now they are "shipping" only, and with pre-order. Best bet is wait till they show available and give the actual store a call. I have never bought one outright from a store, always did online.
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Yeah that's a good idea. But do they sell phones outright over there or do they have to be on a new contract to get a phone? At the best buy here you can't buy phones from them without getting a new contract.
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The Moto X Pure Edition is categorized at Best buy as "Unlocked" which means that you should be able to purchase it without any contract/service plan. You should be able to walk out of the store with nothing more that the cell phone.
FYI the 16gb black model probably has the best chance of being in stock. For me, it is saying "Add to Cart" rather than "Pre-Order" like the other models.