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http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
Looks like I'm going to Verizon or sprint. Anything but at&t they always drop calls.
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The network will actually be stronger because of the takeover but what I do foresee is a lack of our current freedom that T-Mobile provides us with its data plan, AT&T clearly likes to limit its customers' options to 2GB and furthermore AT&T seems to going the way Verizon has and invested heavily in LTE technology as opposed to T-Mobile's HSPA+ which leaves us MT4G users dead in the water. I have heard that AT&T was seeking to expand its current HSPA+ network but I'm not exactly sure by how much and whether it runs off of the same bands as the T-Mobile HSPA+ network since their current 3G networks are on different bands.
I am interested to see if they will change their outlook on the way they handle business. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I MIGHT GO BACK TO SPRINT
Yeah this most likely means sprint for me.
So what's the best android phone coming out soon for Sprint?
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Here is at&t trying to become a monopoly again. Most of us left at&t cause of the crap service now we are back. I can't believe it I rather have sprint actually buy T-Mobile then at&t.
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buying a GSM phone in the future...
"Welcome to T-AT&T. How may we give it to you?"
Yes, I'd like an order of 5 year contracts and a side of carrier specific manufacturers. And a medium "iPhone to T-Mobile" to drink, with extra irony.
"Great and how did you want to pay, first-born or second mortgage?"
Wow you beat me to it lol
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Ya it's gonna be sprint or verizon for me too. I want verizon but isnt it expensive? What do you guys think? Whats better?
Well, I am absolutely not in shock. I work corporate so i had knowledge of talks..but i was under impression we were doing spectrum agreements. Not this bullsh*t. I am NOT happy as I DO work for AT&T but...I know our strictness when it comes to Data Tiering and deposit structuring, etc.
On the network side it will be an advantage as far as coverage goes..but this is bad news for pricing and customer retention..
I anticipate a customer drop the 1st 3 months this is finalized.
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Well, I am absolutely not in shock. I work corporate so i had knowledge of talks..but i was under impression we were doing spectrum agreements. Not this bullsh*t. I am NOT happy as I DO work for AT&T but...I know our strictness when it comes to Data Tiering and deposit structuring, etc.
On the network side it will be an advantage as far as coverage goes..but this is bad news for pricing and customer retention..
I anticipate a customer drop the 1st 3 months this is finalized.
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Yeah, I'll be one of them. Almost 100% guarantee I'm moving to Sprint. I get a 25% discount with my company anyway. I got 12% with tmobile which was still cheaper but there's no way I'm staying with at&t.
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Im not on att because of the lack of freedom...drop calls, ****ty customer service. If they give us the chance to get out of our contract im off to verizon. Wonder if htc will make the pyramid for verizon haha so **** att and all thier gay messages bout ppl tethering.
They already bought it....30 minutes ago .
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So not cool....
I'm surprised Sprint didn't try harder, if anyone needed a merger it was them.
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So, do you think those of us with contracts will be allowed out of such contract at the time of the merger?
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lol @ everyone jumping to conclusions
calm down people...we have no idea the details of the merger...no idea how or when it will effect us...and for the most part people that already on tmobile cell and data plans will be grandfathered into whatever they have now
now...i will say im not happy with this news...i was an att customer for over 7 years way back when and i dont want to be one now...but being i just signed a 2 year contract again to get my new phones...im stuck...but im not going nuts yet until i hear what the merger means
EDIT: i just read that the deal still has to be approved by the gov't and will take up to a year for the merger to actually be fully implemented http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2382267,00.asp
Ironic that I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile so I could afford a fully featured phone with reasonable data rates...
Noooooooo FCC has to approve this hopefully it gets disapproved
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Look
Newsroom.T-Mobile.com
We will have the same everything
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oh boy! we are really in trouble!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/...s-fcc-again-with-atandt-3g-bands-a-pre-acqui/
It's not that bad. After a month with them they remove your frontal lobe and implant a chip. Once you're assimilated and become one of their minions, you'll stop complaining and begin worshipping Lord Jobs. Believe me, resistance is futile.
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This is a moot point. The vibrant and similar already work with at&t bands. Otherwise what would be the point of unlocking?
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they gave it a new model number SGH-T959P
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they gave it a new model number SGH-T959P
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I knew about this device back in mid jan. Just never knew what it was. Lol
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calin75 said:
It's not that bad. After a month with them they remove your frontal lobe and implant a chip. Once you're assimilated and become one of their minions, you'll stop complaining and begin worshipping Lord Jobs. Believe me, resistance is futile.
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ROFL!!!!
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You T-Mobile babies stop crying
AT&T is not that bad....in fact in my hometown it's great! I get HSPA/3G speeds all day long while my wife (a T-Mobile user) can't get anything but Edge/2g on her so called Galaxy S "4G"...lol hehe.......about 45 minutes out of town she can though. Which goes to show, although T-Mobile has the fastest down/up speeds, they do not have the range of service satellites they need to cover these small, lost, and forgotten towns out here.
But with the combined power of almighty AT&T, the impossible becomes possible, thus conquering little guys like Sprint, Verizon who forcefully bully their way on to consumers with promising and emasculate devices that carry overpriced, heart ripping contracts that leave people dam near pulling the lint out of their pocket to pay bills
The only way this will be good is if they don't jake up my bill and get rid of my unlimited. I have great coverage where I live but when I go on a little trip and I mean little I lose recwptionrecwption
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I predict a few things happening.
1 ) All the prices will be jacked up by at least $20 to $30 & for no good reason but to pad the paychecks of the executives.
2) Customer Service will be ****-tastic for what ever is left standing.
3) What ever phones come out under this new arrangement will be chit-locked like the iPhone & we will have to resort back to exotic tricks to get the devices rooted / unlocked.
It will happen, just wait for it... Make sure you have an unbrella for when it does.
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AT&T has a problem with it's customers. Their problem is that they are being provided a service. Their solution to this problem is to take people's money and not provide any service.
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Speculation is that AT&T will likely have to divest itself of 40 to 50 percent
of T-Mobile USA customer base and the likely winner of that will be Sprint.
So if you stay with TMO to see what the outcome is you might not
end up with AT&T, but with Sprint.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/anal...to-divest-part-of-t-mobile-possibly-to-sprint
Orionshock is on the money. I like T-mobile. I do not like AT&T.
It's nothing but bigger bills & mierda for T-Mobile customers. Send an email to your congressman, for whatever it's worth.
One of my paintball buddies says he has an out of state friend that works for AT&T
and he is in Florida right now working on T-Mobile towers.
I was hoping this nightmare would go away but apparently AT&T has greased
some palms at the FCC and DOJ and are sure this is a done deal.
COOL!!! full 3g speed on my 5 1/2 year old baby girl's toy phone... IPHONE4 lol
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orionshock said:
I predict a few things happening.
1 ) All the prices will be jacked up by at least $20 to $30 & for no good reason but to pad the paychecks of the executives.
2) Customer Service will be ****-tastic for what ever is left standing.
3) What ever phones come out under this new arrangement will be chit-locked like the iPhone & we will have to resort back to exotic tricks to get the devices rooted / unlocked.
It will happen, just wait for it... Make sure you have an unbrella for when it does.
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AT&T has a problem with it's customers. Their problem is that they are being provided a service. Their solution to this problem is to take people's money and not provide any service.
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All of the announcements are a bit over zealous. It would take over a year IF the government even allowed the merger, since they would be a sim card monopoly in the US.. doubt it will happen if you ask me.
Not so fast. Sprint is saying Don't let it happen. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-mobile-deal-will-harm-industry-users-1-.html
Will you switch services and what phone will you buy?
Depends on the prepaid prices and if current prices will be honored. If not, back to Virgin Mobile I will go. They're getting some good android phones, hopefully dev support picks up for them.
This depends on whether or not I can back out of my contract without paying. If I can, then I'm off to Verizon. I won't stick with AT&T if I don't have to, and I won't go back to Sprint.
Never had an at&t contract or knew anyone that did. I take it they such, huh?
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Can't think of a single pleasant experience I ever had with them in a single year of use. Yet in the three years I've been with T-Mobile, I have only had one unpleasant experience.
What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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That's what the FCC is discussing.
Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Gsm
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Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Yup, that's the idea of it. There has to be competition, or else they can really set the price to whatever they want, blahblahblah.
A while back, ATT nearly was a monopoly, and they were forced to split into many parts and sell those off to increase competition.. Now they are buying everyone back again lol. I used to have Cingular for my mobile service.. then they were bought by ATT about 8-10 years ago. Didn't have a problem with the merge, and my reception actually improved.
I remember having a bad experience with ATT when I moved and transferred my DSL service to my new apt. The service really sucked (it was too far from the connection office), and I wanted to cancel, but was told I still had 3 months left on the old contract. So I let the 3 months go by so I didn't have to pay an ETF.. after that, I called to cancel, and now, they said when I moved, I entered into a new yearly contract at the new address, and would be charged a $250 ETF. I did no such thing, and didn't sign any new contract. It was BS, and took over a month to get rid of them.
Was so pissed off I switched to Sprint later that year, and haven't had any ATT services for about 5 years. I'm happy with T-mo, and their pre-paid $50/month plan is pretty nice. I hope ATT doesn't change that, otherwise I'll be switching carriers again.
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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daxecutioner24 said:
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
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Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
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They are but they are CDMA
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muzicman0 said:
BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
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+1 My wife and I have had T-Mobile for about 10 yrs now and have always been happy. I have 4 lines (2 with 3000 minutes + unlimited text/data and 2 with 600 minutes and 300 texts). I have always been given great service the few times I had to call. They have always given us the new user discount 18-19 months into the contract for cheaper upgrades too. My work cell used to be AT&T, but then changed over to Verizon and I found both of them to be lacking in every way. I always check the Costco phone kiosk for deals. picked up a BB pearl the week it hit for $29, a Samsung Highlight the week it hit for free, and my SGS4G for $50 bucks back in February when it came out for allowing them to change my number on the renewed plan... lol. I missed the MT4g for a penny (yeah, $0.01) by a week for the wife, but still only paid $150 for it.
I'm not sure what I'll do. I guess that depends on what AT&T does with this side of their house. Might swing a GS2 in with a change over if/when it happens. All I know is T-Mobile has always been great to us and we have stayed b/c of that and they have the best plans/pricing out there.
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crosses fingers that it violates monopoly laws
Looks like the Justice Dept. doesn't approve.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20099776-17/justice-dept-to-block-at-ts-t-mobile-deal/
ATTs payout to Deusche is 12 billion if the deal doesn't go thru?? Oh yeah, att will fight this and I bet it will ultimately happen.
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It appears either way T-Mob wins.
I thought it was only 6 Billion.
3billion in cash, 2 billion in stocks and 1 Billion in Roaming.
Now how are they going to implement the free roaming for Tmobile customers on the AT&T network to the tune of 1Billion bucks? Is it going ot be a one sided deal or two sided. If it's two sided AT&T has just increased thier network range for 6Billion by using Tmobile's infr4astructure.
att sells alot of their older out of date cell toweres to tmobile as it is..
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Not the end of the line yet. Be but definitely a uphill battle.
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Keep it this way, more choice and lower prices is good for consumers.
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Its not 12 Billion its only 3 Billion said that ATT is not gonna give up that easy, they will spend another 3 billion to make this goes through
When all is said its about 6.5 billion with 3 billion cash, spectrum, and reduced call fees for roaming agreements..
I still think it will go through, greedy government officials know how much att wants this. there just flexing muscle so they can have a slice of the pie.
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Whether it goes through or not I'm not too worried about it. It might delay att's 4g plans but it will make them use the spectrum they have more efficiently. However in the case of tmobile, I don't think they have the spectrum at all to roll out a true 4g, thus putting them behind even further in the competition. If it doesn't go through I wish the best for the company because competition is also best for the consumer.
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Has anyone gotten this to work?
For this to work, att can't have the imei of our phone. This leaves out the att version sold by best buy USA.
But what about the Canada version?
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Has anyone gotten this to work?
For this to work, att can't have the imei of our phone. This leaves out the att version sold by best buy USA.
But what about the Canada version?
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If you cant pay you cant play...... Seriously if you cant afford another 10 dollars you shouldn't have bought the phone.
Ok asshole. Instead, I'm a high schooler who wants a dev phone (relying on just the sdk emulator is a *****), and has to pay for it by myself because the nexus s isn't on Verizon, which is what my parents have. I can't sign a contract for another 10 months because I'm not old enough. And I can't afford to wait until the prime, because I have work I want to finish right now.
I'm not using the medianet plan. I'm using the $50 unlimited plan. They work the same, because at&t scans for imeis of known smartphones that they sell, like the atrix. I was just wondering if the canadian nexus s worked because recently best buy USA started selling an att version.
My nexus one never worked on it (only text and calls), so I was just wondering about the s. I can get a new white one for cheap.
Edit: but seriously dude why would you come to a random person and say stuff like that? I guarantee you wouldn't say it to my face. I bet you wont even call me and say it. Why do you think you're so much better because you can sign a contract and pay extra money?
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AT&T will eventually find out that you are using an excessive amount of data throughput via "medianet". I know there was an iPhone 2g trick that would fool AT&T into allowing the $15 plan; however the access in which your smart phone "dials out" to AT&T would expose your phone as being a smart phone. I had an N1 on AT&T and they knew the IMEI number... I bought it via Google too. AT&T has their ways...
The only thing you could do is get the NS, w/ or w/o a 2yr plan and use the DataPlus plan for $15. (If cost is an issue.)
Cost isn't the issue, its the contract. I can't sign one. I'm on an incredible s right now from Canada on the dumb phone plan with ATT and I was just wondering if the nexus would know or not. They knew about my n1 but not my inc s.
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AT&T will eventually find out that you are using an excessive amount of data throughput via "medianet". I know there was an iPhone 2g trick that would fool AT&T into allowing the $15 plan; however the access in which your smart phone "dials out" to AT&T would expose your phone as being a smart phone. I had an N1 on AT&T and they knew the IMEI number... I bought it via Google too. AT&T has their ways...
The only thing you could do is get the NS, w/ or w/o a 2yr plan and use the DataPlus plan for $15. (If cost is an issue.)
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I bought one prior to it releasing on AT&T (through Best Buy mobile) and it worked fine on the $10/$15 MEdiaNet Data plan. Decided to sell it as soon as AT&T released it as their own. I've been wondering the same question lately seeing it's one of the best android phones for the price (I can get a used Rogers one for about $300 unsubsidized.) I'm currently using the Desire Z from Bell Canada on the MEdiaNet plan.
P.S. Would you be willing to sell your Incredible S for around $300?
No thanks, I'm looking for closer to 400 on it. But OK cool the nexus worked
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First off kid, grow up. Then when you do take a deep breath and realize the stupid reply you actually took the time to write. I would have no problem saying it to your face, while smiling of course. You are like every other kid I deal with daily. In fact I bet you are the type that will start crying thinking it will stop me from writing you a ticket.
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First off kid, grow up. Then when you do take a deep breath and realize the stupid reply you actually took the time to write. I would have no problem saying it to your face, while smiling of course. You are like every other kid I deal with daily. In fact I bet you are the type that will start crying thinking it will stop me from writing you a ticket.
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hhaha ohh shoot a cop! mannn i am so sowwy..
i looked through your other posts, you never have anything constructive or productive to write, so im not gonna worry about you. youre an asshole, the kind that give cops a bad name.
You obviously didn't look too hard. I guess that is to be expected. You are right, I am an asshole because I thought it is lame to try to cheat the system for 10 dollars. Good day kid.
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the unlocked t-mobile version isn't seen as a smartphone by at&t and the poor soul who had the nexus one that was spotted as a smartphone, if yours had the t-mobile frequencies then you were just unlucky.
if its built with t-mobile 3g then it will only connect to the EDGE network and i don't think at&t really cares.
Rem3dy,
The OP asked a specific question. If you can't answer it, don't post.
Leave your moral observations for when you are on the clock, and within your jurisdiction.
What you said was unhelpful and insulting. Step down from the high-horse and be helpful or fellate your service weapon.
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Rem3dy,
The OP asked a specific question. If you can't answer it, don't post.
Leave your moral observations for when you are on the clock, and within your jurisdiction.
What you said was unhelpful and insulting. Step down from the high-horse and be helpful or fellate your service weapon.
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Thanks for chiming in 17 days late. So I'm on a high horse because I think trying to cheat a company out of 10 bucks was stupid? Are you going to support him when he comes back and asks how to download paid apps for free? Where are you going to draw the line? You say to leave my morals out and to either help the kid or say nothing? So what exactly did your post do to help him?
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lulz! cops gettin trolled and peeps gettin trolled by cops! haha! lulz! Hope this helps.
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lulz! cops gettin trolled and peeps gettin trolled by cops! haha! lulz! Hope this helps.
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I laughed!
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Everyone should just stop. I figured it all out, I'm now on straight talk for unlimited everything + 2gb data for $45 a month, and it uses AT&T towers (mvno carrier). This plan worked better, but it requires a $100 fee to start up, but I paid the price because I can't sign contracts.
I wanted to use the medianet plan because I can't sign a contract while I'm under 18. I never wanted to get free apps, or do anything like that. I've been around XDA for a bit, dabbled in devving for a few phones, and I'm pretty sure some of my threads are even stickied. I know the rules etc.
All that said, PLENTY of threads are on XDA about taking advantage of the medianet loophole. It saves $20+ a month, and data is unlimited (not available to other plans) and unthrottled. Many people have no problem sticking it to a corporation that they hate like AT&T, and IMO unlimited data should be unlimited.. smartphone or not, so I had no problem with the idea of it.
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I bought a rogers nexus s (french+english text on box) and they changed my data plan
I got a white i9020a (canadian?) and they changed my dataplan from medianet to a smartphone They can't have the IME number though.. and I tethered all the time on my Nokia E71 w/ medianet so I don't think it was data usage that tipped them off.
How could they know I got an i9020a Nexus S? Maybe a heuristic like if you download from Google's market servers you're on a smartphone?
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I got a white i9020a (canadian?) and they changed my dataplan from medianet to a smartphone They can't have the IME number though.. and I tethered all the time on my Nokia E71 w/ medianet so I don't think it was data usage that tipped them off.
How could they know I got an i9020a Nexus S? Maybe a heuristic like if you download from Google's market servers you're on a smartphone?
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Nah the imeis are public domain.
And they do sweeps every once in a while I guess. Looks like they got a few people.
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