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[Q] AT&T buys T-Mobile. Can we expect any improvements?

AT&T bought out T-Mobile.
Can we expect any improvements?
Discuss.

It's at&t so I am going to say..... no
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Are they going to convert T-Mobile into AT&T like what they did with Cingular? Or are they going to leave T-Mobile alone and just "own" them?

Pretty sure T-Mobile will become part of AT&T and we'll just have access to all their additional coverage and what not.

I think that's up in the air but I'm sure what ever they do they are going to be sharing towers. If the deathstar gobbles them up I am sure t mobile plans will get grandfathered. Least that is what Verizon did when they bought ( I think it was alltell)
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This will take about a year. We won't see any changes till after a year from now.
And who knows, this might not even happen. Its all in FCC's hands right now.

I always liked T-Mobiles pricing and phones, but their coverage sucked in my area.

Personally I don't think its great news. Wipes out a pretty Android friendly carrier and just makes AT&T bigger, giving them more power to dictate to Google and make us pay through the nose.
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AT&T said they are planning on using the T-Mobile network to provide LTE to 95% of americans. The transaction will take a year to complete but 95% of americans sounds pretty damn good. Also most likely you won't see huge improvements because usually where T-Mobile has signal so does AT&T. There are very few areas where T-Mobile has service that AT&T doesn't. I think this is a good move for both companies.

AT&T is becoming self-aware

T-Mobile customers were snowballing fast

Well just read radioshack is kicking T-Mobile out and bringing in Verizon to all stores. I see the end is near i don't understand why people choose the other carriers when T-Mobile gives you the Best bang for the buck handdown. I'm thinking it might be a goodtime to switch carriers before they leave us all hanging. I say that because i read engadget news everyday and there is always bad news about T-Mobile.
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How will we be left hanging? Even with the buyout, AT&T will be forced to grandfather all of us and our existing contracts. If we are forced to change anything (plan, device, etc) it would be a violation of contract and we would have an out without penalty. Those of us without a contract have the potential to get screwed sooner. But if that happens, just leave since you don't have a contract anyways.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Well just read radioshack is kicking T-Mobile out and bringing in Verizon to all stores. I see the end is near i don't understand why people choose the other carriers when T-Mobile gives you the Best bang for the buck handdown. I'm thinking it might be a goodtime to switch carriers before they leave us all hanging. I say that because i read engadget news everyday and there is always bad news about T-Mobile.
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Before WHO leaves you hanging?
T-Mobile is still building their network, I know this because I am involved in the build.
What do you think they're going to do, shut everything down?
IMO, the best thing to do is get a new TMO contract locked in for 2 years, so your contract will be stable even if AT&T was to take over tomorrow.
Who really cares about Radio Shack?

ungratefulbastard said:
Who really cares about Radio Shack?
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I got my Galaxy S from Radio Shack *shrugs* lol

For all the fancy 4G/LTE/etc that Verizon and AT&T supposedly have rolled out, my T-Mobile connection and performance has been BY FAR the best of all the carriers I've used...and I've used all of them!! While technical speeds on TMO might not be up to T or VZ standards, at least the damn thing works when I need it!
Huge fan of TMO.

ungratefulbastard said:
IMO, the best thing to do is get a new TMO contract locked in for 2 years, so your contract will be stable even if AT&T was to take over tomorrow.
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that is exactly what i did to protect my bill until all the mess is sorted out.

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that is exactly what i did to protect my bill until all the mess is sorted out.
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I was out of contract since 2008. i just renew my contract because of all this talk about ATT and TMO. this way now i have my grandfather plan for atleast 2 more year (paying less). And i also got my sensation for free.

bonebeatz1234 said:
Well just read radioshack is kicking T-Mobile out and bringing in Verizon to all stores. I see the end is near i don't understand why people choose the other carriers when T-Mobile gives you the Best bang for the buck handdown. I'm thinking it might be a goodtime to switch carriers before they leave us all hanging. I say that because i read engadget news everyday and there is always bad news about T-Mobile.
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I just jumped ship from TMO. I was on flex pay with no contract with two lines. Sprint gave me $125 credit for each line just for porting my numbers to them. Then on top of that I said I worked at costco and got 23% off my monthly bill. Plus they will give me a free home airwave which is a signal booster/free wifi calling AP. and with the GV integration any call you make is considered mobile to mobile and doesnt deduct from your minutes(if not on unlimited plan)
Sprint's 4g coverage in my area is pretty strong as well.
so for $120(after the 23% rebate) I get 1500 anytime minutes, unlimited texting and 4g on both lines nights and weekends (nights start at 7) truly unlimited data, free mobile to mobile calling on any carrier plus the GV intergration which every call is like mobile to mobile and the free airwave for my house. I couldnt resist I just got the evo 3d but have 30 days and might return it if the GS2 comes out by then and if it's any good

dssig226 said:
I was out of contract since 2008. i just renew my contract because of all this talk about ATT and TMO. this way now i have my grandfather plan for atleast 2 more year (paying less). And i also got my sensation for free.
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I did the same thing. 2 New Sensations for free plus a 15% monthly discount, and 5gb of data at the 2gb price.
And when AT&T decides its time to raise my price? Hello Sprint.
I'm honestly hoping the buyout fails though and TMO gets the nice prize from takes a few billion and extra spectrum.
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Radio shack they still exist lol
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BBOOZE said:
For all the fancy 4G/LTE/etc that Verizon and AT&T supposedly have rolled out, my T-Mobile connection and performance has been BY FAR the best of all the carriers I've used...and I've used all of them!! While technical speeds on TMO might not be up to T or VZ standards, at least the damn thing works when I need it!
Huge fan of TMO.
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I agree! I Never had any service problem whatsoever. Even if the buyout doesn't happen and T-mobile decided to close their doors, it would not happen for at least 2-3 years as they have binding agreements to provide service to millions of customers. Even that scenario is unlikely considering T-mobile stands to gain $6 billion and a percentage of atat spectrum in the event negotiations go south. There is also reason to doubt what some call ''the inevitable'' based on T-mobile's recent swarm of high end devices, price plan adjustments and advertising. T-mobile has never made as much noise throughout its lifetime in the U.S. as it has within the last 7 months.

Have fun with the dropped calls.
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Well just read radioshack is kicking T-Mobile out and bringing in Verizon to all stores. I see the end is near i don't understand why people choose the other carriers when T-Mobile gives you the Best bang for the buck handdown. I'm thinking it might be a goodtime to switch carriers before they leave us all hanging. I say that because i read engadget news everyday and there is always bad news about T-Mobile.
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Who shops at Radio Shack? only old people looking for rare batteries for their cordless phone from 1994. This move doesn't affect T-Mobile in the slightest just shows that Radio Shack is struggling. T-Mobile by far has the best signal strength in my area. Sprint sucks you will get dropped calls several times a day. Not to mention you can't talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time....

T-mobile's been solid for me and i can honestly say I have had every major carrier available in the Chicago area in the past few years. Sprint is a close second but their 4G was spotty and while traveling it was almost at 3g speeds.
Were fine, were in contracts (most of us) and if AT&T takes over and tries to change it, itll be an easy way for us to get another new shiny phone from another carrier
AT&T does have the ****test service though, I had a 3GS for 6 months never had so many damn dropped calls. There was 2 city blocks by me I had to avoid when I was on the phone cause it was a dead zone lol while every other carrier had signal there fine

Back when I had my HD2, my tmobile connection was questionable. But since getting and HTC Sensation 4G I haven't dropped a single call yet. The Antenna Design in the Sensation is definitely above the rest. The only thing I don't like is the new data caps on high speed access. I am on 5 GB plan. I called tmobile to ask what do they mean by reduced data speed after I used up my quota and they basically said I would be on edge til the end of the month. Not very cool, but better than paying overages.

Well It's nice to have more than one spot to buy your phone local. Considering where i live best buy mobile don't carry T-Mobile now radioshack won't . I'm down to two places the mall where it's impossible to get a phone before they sell out or walmart. So to some radioshack ain't a big deal but too me it is, i got several phones from them and if it wasn't for them i wouldn't have got this sensation when it released. The mall sold out in a hour and so did walmart.
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I don't buy phones in the store, I use Wirefly or letstalk and save the cash.

Sony Xperia X1i
HTC HD2
HTC Sensation 4G
I bought all of them off ebay with no contract.
I have never had any problems with bad phones from ebay.
These days sellers are pretty honest if there is a problem.
Sensations are going for about $400 each now on Ebay
Many of the phones on Ebay are New in Box too.
I still don't understand why people still think they need to purchase from a retail store. You are better off especially with the Tmobile merger coming up, to buy a phone outright, then get a month to month plan. That way if the network goes to ****, you can switch with no termination fees.

ungratefulbastard said:
I don't buy phones in the store, I use Wirefly or letstalk and save the cash.
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Exactly it's 2011 order online LOL most sites offer free shipping don't know why people want to stand in line @ a retail store.
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Radio Shack = Herpes
Radio hack has been around to long and its like a dam STD. Similar to Herpes from what I hear.
It goes away for a little while and comes right back.
Here is a list of a few other similar companies;
JC Panties
Saer's
Big Slut's
Small 5 sports
Yack In Da Box - Yumbo Yack anyone?
and if you live here in california like I do - You can guess what class/race of person they attract.
I have to walk into Saer's and ask the associate - "Do you speak english?"

AT&T Officially Drops $39 Billion Bid On T-Mobile

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-ap-us-tec-att-t-mobile,0,1859192.story?track=rss
Its officially not happening! No AT&T/T-Mobile merger in the near future

Thank God, this is a win for us consumers.

Might want to fix the title, it was actually 39 Billion, not Million

This is sad. This merger would have been so much better for everybody. There's always hope for the future, though. Maybe AT&T will have a better chance with a better president.

Great news...been celebrating since the announcement! And it's a big win for all the users who fought big corporate brother!!

MartyLK said:
This is sad. This merger would have been so much better for everybody. There's always hope for the future, though. Maybe AT&T will have a better chance with a better president.
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I sharted while laughing at your satire.
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TJBunch1228 said:
I sharted while laughing at your satire.
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Shhh!...don't give me away. I like messing with the fanboys and uptight ones. I find it humorous imagining the veins in the foreheads popping out.

I'm happy.

OMG!!!...soo sad...

That was a long waste of a process. Verizon and AT&T control 75% of the market. Sprint and T-Mobile USA are too small to survive on their own. They cannot keep pace with the capital investments of the much larger Verizon and AT&T. Sprint is struggling to build a 4G LTE network, and T-Mobile does not even have any immediate plans for one. I am hoping that some big outside investors (Dish Network, Google, etc.) come in and buy out the small carriers and make the necessary cash infusions. As a consumer, I want affordable, nation-wide mobile broadband with high (or unlimited) data caps.

T mobile is fine. Sprint however is in trouble.
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Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.

bleach168 said:
Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.
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Customers disagree because T-Mobile continues to bleed subscribers without the iPhone. It is why Sprint is paying so heavily to finally get the iPhone this quarter.

bleach168 said:
Everyone keeps saying T-Mobile needs the iPhone and LTE. I'd love to have those things on T-Mobile but not at the expense of low rates. I think most T-Mobile customers will agree with me.
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Absolutely...the iPhone is not needed for T-Mobile to get customers. the HTC Amaze and Samsung Galaxy S2 are more than sufficient and considerably better phones than the iPhone 4S...maybe 2 years ago, T-mobile needed the iPhone, but not today. I highly doubt the iphone will save sprint or bolster their marketshare.

t-mo usa isnt fine, their owner want out of us market, so someone has to buy them now at an good price or at an fire sale later.

Iphone and lte. The iphone is not a network saving device. A lot of people would still buy the iphone out right and stay on t-mobile network. Most people jump to conclusions assume the deal would go through and left t-mobile.
Lets assume T-mobile starts pushing out windows 8 phones next year and they are as intuitive and intergrated with the desktops.
That will bring in more consumers since its a device that works with already most of your home products.
Lte as of right now t-mobile does not need Lte. The technology has not caught enough to have Lte reliable. Most Lte phones don't last more than 5-8 hrs. You shouldn't have to disconnect from 4g service to get decent battery life. Lte has often seen outages as well.
Hspa+ as for now shows that Lte is not needed. Majority of users have wifi at home. Also ping on Lte networks are either low or extremely high. Compared to t-mobile network. Higher ping the longer it takes for the web page to load.
T-mobile needs a better market strategy. Most of their good devices never have a commercial or any type of advertisement. The best bet would be to sell t-mobile to a company with a lot of spectrum like dish.
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Jayavarman said:
Customers disagree because T-Mobile continues to bleed subscribers without the iPhone. It is why Sprint is paying so heavily to finally get the iPhone this quarter.
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And Sprint shareholders agree that the iPhone is bad for business. I'm one of them. It's been painful.

If AT&T bought out T-mobile wouldn't that cause some kind of monopoly? At&T would control all of the market. Not to mention the prices of t-mobile would probably raise. Keep in mind AT&T was saying they'd try and keep T-mobiles price rates which i don't see happening.

OnlyClassiK said:
If AT&T bought out T-mobile wouldn't that cause some kind of monopoly? At&T would control all of the market. Not to mention the prices of t-mobile would probably raise. Keep in mind AT&T was saying they'd try and keep T-mobiles price rates which i don't see happening.
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If the merger did happened, AT&T and Verizon would account for 80% of the wireless in the US.

Killbynature said:
T-mobile needs a better market strategy. Most of their good devices never have a commercial or any type of advertisement. The best bet would be to sell t-mobile to a company with a lot of spectrum like dish.
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True. Most people dont know. What a htc MT4G slide and htc amaze is.
Sad both phones are very competitve and great peices of technology
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(OFF TOPIC) Verizon customer switching to AT&T.

Thinking of switching family over to AT&T. For one thing,to follow the new HTC one the is going to be released soon. And another is my monthly bill. Question is....how is the service compared to Verizon? I live in the sandhills of NC, near Fort Bragg.
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This would go better in the general discussion forum
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Isn't that where it is posted?
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From what I've been through (only 14), when I go to buy a new phone the employees at the att stores are really nice. (San Antonio)
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I'm on AT&T, 5 lines, 4 smartphones. On the 700 minute plan all 250mb data plan was around $260 a month. Now we're on the mobile share 4gb and it's $300. The switch was due to lines going over data and adding charges. If you don't use data a lot, don't go with mobile share. Service is very reliable here in NJ. If anything, customer service is superb.
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In Houston/Galveston area in tx, love my AT&T service...no probs at all. Came from T-Mobile, pay a bit more but totally worth it. They don't support their phones update wise too well, but that's why we got XDA right?! I'd jump ship from big red
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elfysrfr said:
In Houston/Galveston area in tx, love my AT&T service...no probs at all. Came from T-Mobile, pay a bit more but totally worth it. They don't support their phones update wise too well, but that's why we got XDA right?! I'd jump ship from big red
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I'm in the Houston area as well (so this may not help you for NC as much), but the coverage here is much better than T-Mobile. Talking with friends, it seemed like Verizon does have slightly better coverage (usually outside the city at retreat sites, camping sites, etc.), but in the end I would have ended up paying about 30 dollars more for a slightly better plan on Verizon that I wouldn't take advantage of (unlimited talk mostly, whereas I currently have 1 line, 400 anytime+rollover, 5000 nights and weekends, 3GB data and never come close to my minutes limit).
To be fair, the One X isn't available on Verizon, so with the exception of Rogers/Telstra customers, almost all of us are on AT&T, so there may be a little bias. Not that we all LOVE AT&T, but we're at least satisfied enough to stay (e.g., there aren't any major issues).

I'm in the San Antonio area. Coverage is great. But nexus 4 doesn't support LTE my hox did, but with 200 MB a month I always just used HSPA+
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Let's go Texas
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Just left Verizon and have zero complaints. Costs the same per month but better value plans. Zero problem with services either... Plus... GSM is the way to go with the Nexus devices in the future.
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Awesome input .....thanks to everyone. Please keep them coming.
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I left Verizon for AT&T when the iPhone 3G came out and haven't looked back.
AT&T can be annoying at times, but when it comes to bloat and lockdowns, Verizon has always been a lot worse. Verzion has in the past tried to send updates that locked your phone if it detected root access.

Not going to lie, I think Verizon has better customer service and reception/speeds. But it's also highly localized. In SoCal, Verizon is assumed to be the best. I've heard in NYC AT&T is the best so it's probably best to see what those in your home town think.
As far as customer service, I'm not a fan of AT&T but they aren't as terrible as they are made out to be. But then again I've never had problems that required much service.
And for what it's worth, I'm not a fanboy on any service/phone/OS. I've had Sprint, tmobile, AT&T and verizon over the last 6 or 7 years in L.A. and overall I would probably rank at&t 3rd or 4th here. That being said I'm mostly satisfied with what I have. I'm on wifi more than LTE and let's face it, most of us aren't using voice calls as much now as 5-10 years ago.

I'm in the western part of NC and have zero problems with AT&T service
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KayxGee1 said:
I'm on AT&T, 5 lines, 4 smartphones. On the 700 minute plan all 250mb data plan was around $260 a month. Now we're on the mobile share 4gb and it's $300. The switch was due to lines going over data and adding charges. If you don't use data a lot, don't go with mobile share. Service is very reliable here in NJ. If anything, customer service is superb.
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Co-sign with the service in NJ being good. Never had much of an issue with them since 2009

rizorith said:
Not going to lie, I think Verizon has better customer service and reception/speeds.
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Verizon's customer service was indeed pretty good. My beef was the corporate attitude toward their customers, which was "You'll take our bloatware infested, locked down devices and like it because we're Verizon."
AT&T still locks things down, but doesn't seem to care that much if you root and unlock (e.g., plenty of people have gotten warranty replacements despite having bricked via flashing the wrong stuff). Verizon has a history of actively trying to stop people being from being rooted.

Also live in Houston and LTE is phenomenal. Now I work in Odessa and as long as your close to the Midland/Odessa area, you can get reliable 3G coverage (3-7Mbps down) . As soon as you start to move out towards the boonies and their supposed 2G coverage area, this is where Verizon outshines AT&T.
I work in the oil field sector and most of the time when we're at a remote location in West Texas, the only ones who normally have consistent coverage are Verizon customers. Too bad their selection of android devices are horrid.
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Partition to have Verizon to abandon contracts.!!!!!

In case you haven't seen this yet, there is a petition on change.org to convince Verizon Wireless to abandon service contracts.
Verizon: Get rid of contracts for wireless service
Petition by: Mike Beauchamp, Wichita, KS
News coverage:
CNN: Thousands petition Verizon to nix wireless contracts
Venture Beat: Verizon, can you hear me now? Thousands demand a swift end to contracts
Below is my comment on change.org. Be sure to write a comment too so your signature is meaningful!
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This will never work.
This is just one of many ways that Verizon makes money. Verizon does offer prepaid...
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Verizon would jump on that to take away everyone's unlimited data plans lol
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There's nothing wrong with service contracts. I like Verizon when I travel i don't have to worry about not having service in any part of the States. I'll pay for the coverage that no others give.
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Partition? Lol. I love VZW's service, anywhere I've gone in the U.S., MN, ND, SD, TN, IA, my service is flawless, even in sparsely populated areas. When T-Mobile and similar carriers can offer the same coverage, they'll have my attention, until then though, I'll just get an unlimited amount of the quality I pay for...

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Partition? Lol. I love VZW's service, anywhere I've gone in the U.S., MN, ND, SD, TN, IA, my service is flawless, even in sparsely populated areas. When T-Mobile and similar carriers can offer the same coverage, they'll have my attention, until then though, I'll just get an unlimited amount of the quality I pay for...
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I have Page Plus, which is one of the few MVNO's to use Verizon towers, and have yet to not have service. I've been all over the country for the last year, coast to coast. I pay $28.50 a month after the callingmart discount, and get 1200 minutes, 3000 texts, 250mb of data. I use email, navigation, and opera mini web browsing (compresses everything), and 250mb gets me through the month. of course, you can have unlimited voice and text for $38 -always use callingmart, it is 5% off every month.
I used to have Verizon, but got out of my contract, which was costing me over $100 a month. So, i am saving close to $1000 a year doing this, which can go toward more important things, like hookers and cocaine 8-]
Doesn't Verizon already have a separate "partition" for prepaid? And isn't it crazy how 3G has become the po' man's preferred network over the last few years? I supposed if I streamed more HD video on the go, I would be dying for 4g and more data, but I only watch movies and stuff at home! When I'm out of the house, I am mainly working or socializing. To each their own, of course.

kristoff123 said:
I have Page Plus, which is one of the few MVNO's to use Verizon towers, and have yet to not have service. I've been all over the country for the last year, coast to coast. I pay $28.50 a month after the callingmart discount, and get 1200 minutes, 3000 texts, 250mb of data. I use email, navigation, and opera mini web browsing (compresses everything), and 250mb gets me through the month. of course, you can have unlimited voice and text for $38 -always use callingmart, it is 5% off every month.
I used to have Verizon, but got out of my contract, which was costing me over $100 a month. So, i am saving close to $1000 a year doing this, which can go toward more important things, like hookers and cocaine 8-]
Doesn't Verizon already have a separate "partition" for prepaid? And isn't it crazy how 3G has become the po' man's preferred network over the last few years? I supposed if I streamed more HD video on the go, I would be dying for 4g and more data, but I only watch movies and stuff at home! When I'm out of the house, I am mainly working or socializing. To each their own, of course.
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More important things like hookers and cocaine.
Ha. Too true.
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quickdraw86 said:
Partition? Lol. I love VZW's service, anywhere I've gone in the U.S., MN, ND, SD, TN, IA, my service is flawless, even in sparsely populated areas. When T-Mobile and similar carriers can offer the same coverage, they'll have my attention, until then though, I'll just get an unlimited amount of the quality I pay for...
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I will say this much on their coverage. I went to Hawaii last year and was able to get 4g. If that tells you anything about their coverage then you know its huge. Still though you can get Verizon off contract with their prepaid service which is what they will tell you. Also, once your two years is up you are technically off contract.
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disconnecktie said:
I will say this much on their coverage. I went to Hawaii last year and was able to get 4g. If that tells you anything about their coverage then you know its huge. Still though you can get Verizon off contract with their prepaid service which is what they will tell you. Also, once your two years is up you are technically off contract.
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Yes, after a customer's contract date has passed, they are just month to month on the terms of their former contract. Prior to signing up for the unlimited data plan, I was off contract with VZW for several years clinging to a discontinued plan of theirs. I have no issue doing the same again, but am disappointed by the current smartphone crop VZW carries. No N4 or HTC one has had me looking around, but I'll likely stay, I've been with VZW for over 10 years and consume an obscene amount of data.

I'm betting that HTC has a better version of the one coming out instead. Likely it is the dna 2. As for the n4, who cares? It is 3g only and the n5 should he coming out soon. Hopefully they get it but I'm doubting it since the Google devices receive all their updates from Google and not through the carrier which Verizon doesn't like.
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there's always something new coming out. but seems Verizon's versions seems to lag behind the other carriers phones. I wouldn't mind seeing a nexus device but Verizon shot themselves in the foot on that one with the gnex. I have thought about the s3 and the note 2. the size of the note puts me off and I'm 6'3" which should be perfect for me. we all look for that holy grail of cellphones but most never finds it.
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disconnecktie said:
I'm betting that HTC has a better version of the one coming out instead. Likely it is the dna 2. As for the n4, who cares? It is 3g only and the n5 should he coming out soon. Hopefully they get it but I'm doubting it since the Google devices receive all their updates from Google and not through the carrier which Verizon doesn't like.
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Yep. Indeed, n4 is 3G only. Honestly, I like HTC build quality, and am not completely averse to moto either for the same reason. The upcoming moto devices are exciting, as is the HTC one, I hope some variants of those reach VZW. I would switch carriers to obtain an HTC made nexus though, if ever there's another one in the future.

I am shocked in Google owning moto that they dont make all nexus devices.
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VZW has gotten so bloated and complacent, at this point I doubt they'd do anything in their customers' best interest.
They might introduce a "no contract" plan, but it would be more expensive and less useful than other options.