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AT&T&T-Mobile - oh boy! we are really in trouble!!!

oh boy! we are really in trouble!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/...s-fcc-again-with-atandt-3g-bands-a-pre-acqui/

It's not that bad. After a month with them they remove your frontal lobe and implant a chip. Once you're assimilated and become one of their minions, you'll stop complaining and begin worshipping Lord Jobs. Believe me, resistance is futile.
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This is a moot point. The vibrant and similar already work with at&t bands. Otherwise what would be the point of unlocking?
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they gave it a new model number SGH-T959P

chadster214 said:
they gave it a new model number SGH-T959P
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I knew about this device back in mid jan. Just never knew what it was. Lol
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calin75 said:
It's not that bad. After a month with them they remove your frontal lobe and implant a chip. Once you're assimilated and become one of their minions, you'll stop complaining and begin worshipping Lord Jobs. Believe me, resistance is futile.
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ROFL!!!!
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You T-Mobile babies stop crying
AT&T is not that bad....in fact in my hometown it's great! I get HSPA/3G speeds all day long while my wife (a T-Mobile user) can't get anything but Edge/2g on her so called Galaxy S "4G"...lol hehe.......about 45 minutes out of town she can though. Which goes to show, although T-Mobile has the fastest down/up speeds, they do not have the range of service satellites they need to cover these small, lost, and forgotten towns out here.
But with the combined power of almighty AT&T, the impossible becomes possible, thus conquering little guys like Sprint, Verizon who forcefully bully their way on to consumers with promising and emasculate devices that carry overpriced, heart ripping contracts that leave people dam near pulling the lint out of their pocket to pay bills

The only way this will be good is if they don't jake up my bill and get rid of my unlimited. I have great coverage where I live but when I go on a little trip and I mean little I lose recwptionrecwption
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I predict a few things happening.
1 ) All the prices will be jacked up by at least $20 to $30 & for no good reason but to pad the paychecks of the executives.
2) Customer Service will be ****-tastic for what ever is left standing.
3) What ever phones come out under this new arrangement will be chit-locked like the iPhone & we will have to resort back to exotic tricks to get the devices rooted / unlocked.
It will happen, just wait for it... Make sure you have an unbrella for when it does.
/rant
AT&T has a problem with it's customers. Their problem is that they are being provided a service. Their solution to this problem is to take people's money and not provide any service.
/end-rant

Speculation is that AT&T will likely have to divest itself of 40 to 50 percent
of T-Mobile USA customer base and the likely winner of that will be Sprint.
So if you stay with TMO to see what the outcome is you might not
end up with AT&T, but with Sprint.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/anal...to-divest-part-of-t-mobile-possibly-to-sprint

Orionshock is on the money. I like T-mobile. I do not like AT&T.
It's nothing but bigger bills & mierda for T-Mobile customers. Send an email to your congressman, for whatever it's worth.

One of my paintball buddies says he has an out of state friend that works for AT&T
and he is in Florida right now working on T-Mobile towers.
I was hoping this nightmare would go away but apparently AT&T has greased
some palms at the FCC and DOJ and are sure this is a done deal.

COOL!!! full 3g speed on my 5 1/2 year old baby girl's toy phone... IPHONE4 lol

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orionshock said:
I predict a few things happening.
1 ) All the prices will be jacked up by at least $20 to $30 & for no good reason but to pad the paychecks of the executives.
2) Customer Service will be ****-tastic for what ever is left standing.
3) What ever phones come out under this new arrangement will be chit-locked like the iPhone & we will have to resort back to exotic tricks to get the devices rooted / unlocked.
It will happen, just wait for it... Make sure you have an unbrella for when it does.
/rant
AT&T has a problem with it's customers. Their problem is that they are being provided a service. Their solution to this problem is to take people's money and not provide any service.
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...and the 10 chars

All of the announcements are a bit over zealous. It would take over a year IF the government even allowed the merger, since they would be a sim card monopoly in the US.. doubt it will happen if you ask me.

Not so fast. Sprint is saying Don't let it happen. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-mobile-deal-will-harm-industry-users-1-.html

[Q] If T-Mobile is sold to AT&T...

Will you switch services and what phone will you buy?

Depends on the prepaid prices and if current prices will be honored. If not, back to Virgin Mobile I will go. They're getting some good android phones, hopefully dev support picks up for them.

This depends on whether or not I can back out of my contract without paying. If I can, then I'm off to Verizon. I won't stick with AT&T if I don't have to, and I won't go back to Sprint.

Never had an at&t contract or knew anyone that did. I take it they such, huh?
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Can't think of a single pleasant experience I ever had with them in a single year of use. Yet in the three years I've been with T-Mobile, I have only had one unpleasant experience.

What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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yentlequible said:
What? AT&T already bought T-Mobile at like the beginning of this year. I thought they were just waiting on something before they changed things.
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Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.

hailthethief said:
Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?

tehjeh said:
What GSM carriers besides the two of them exist in North America? I mean, on a nation-wide scale. Because quite frankly, I can't think of a single one besides AT&T & T-Mobile.
If they're the only two nation-wide ones, and AT&T becomes the ONLY nation-wide GSM carrier, doesn't that make it a monopoly?
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That's what the FCC is discussing.

Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?

Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Gsm
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HolyGhostBoy1 said:
Someone pls enlighten me what are monopoly laws
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Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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GDofWR420 said:
Basically it means a company cant go around and purchase all of one industry and corner the market on a certain product or service and be the only one to offer it. Correct me if im wrong.
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Yup, that's the idea of it. There has to be competition, or else they can really set the price to whatever they want, blahblahblah.

A while back, ATT nearly was a monopoly, and they were forced to split into many parts and sell those off to increase competition.. Now they are buying everyone back again lol. I used to have Cingular for my mobile service.. then they were bought by ATT about 8-10 years ago. Didn't have a problem with the merge, and my reception actually improved.
I remember having a bad experience with ATT when I moved and transferred my DSL service to my new apt. The service really sucked (it was too far from the connection office), and I wanted to cancel, but was told I still had 3 months left on the old contract. So I let the 3 months go by so I didn't have to pay an ETF.. after that, I called to cancel, and now, they said when I moved, I entered into a new yearly contract at the new address, and would be charged a $250 ETF. I did no such thing, and didn't sign any new contract. It was BS, and took over a month to get rid of them.
Was so pissed off I switched to Sprint later that year, and haven't had any ATT services for about 5 years. I'm happy with T-mo, and their pre-paid $50/month plan is pretty nice. I hope ATT doesn't change that, otherwise I'll be switching carriers again.

Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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daxecutioner24 said:
Homestly tmobile sucks,especially their customee service..they do provide the weakest lineup compare to other carriers..they dont have roll over minutes or one fav person as your favorite to use unlimites minutes..so for a person who talks a lot and has 1500 minutes still doesnt cut it!!
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BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
mm0

pudgybunnyBry said:
Sprint and Verizon aren't nationwide?
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They are but they are CDMA
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muzicman0 said:
BS. First off, I have 3 phones that use a shared 1500 minutes, and I use my phone all the time...never even come close to using all my minutes. Second...if you do, just go to the unlimited plan for $49.99, can't beat that.
mm0
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+1 My wife and I have had T-Mobile for about 10 yrs now and have always been happy. I have 4 lines (2 with 3000 minutes + unlimited text/data and 2 with 600 minutes and 300 texts). I have always been given great service the few times I had to call. They have always given us the new user discount 18-19 months into the contract for cheaper upgrades too. My work cell used to be AT&T, but then changed over to Verizon and I found both of them to be lacking in every way. I always check the Costco phone kiosk for deals. picked up a BB pearl the week it hit for $29, a Samsung Highlight the week it hit for free, and my SGS4G for $50 bucks back in February when it came out for allowing them to change my number on the renewed plan... lol. I missed the MT4g for a penny (yeah, $0.01) by a week for the wife, but still only paid $150 for it.
I'm not sure what I'll do. I guess that depends on what AT&T does with this side of their house. Might swing a GS2 in with a change over if/when it happens. All I know is T-Mobile has always been great to us and we have stayed b/c of that and they have the best plans/pricing out there.

hailthethief said:
Not yet, It needs to be approved that its not in violation of any monopoly laws.
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The T-Mobile / Dark Side Merger May fall Through...

For some reason I can't post comments on Tmonews [despise those complicit A-Holes anyway], I thought I'd post this here....
AT&T's Merger with T-Mobile May Actually Fall Through
OHN HUDSON AUG 12, 20113,533 ViewsComments
In a surprising turn of events, the mega merger that consumer watchdogs decried, but most deemed a fait accompli, faces a real risk of disintegrating at the hands of federal regulators. Last night, a new poll of policy analysts examining the proposed $39 billion merger between AT&T and T-Mobile found that the deal was now more likely to fail than pass FCC and Justice Department approval, according to an average taken from the respondents
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Death to the Deal! Although I dislike ATT, T-Mobile is no better.

I think it's bound to happen they just wanted us all to soak it in that is why it will take so long.

if it does fall through then we are all doomed!

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if it does fall through then we are all doomed!
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Wtf?!
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I don't know... AT&T sure has their tentacles well wrapped in the government... I would imagine they have people on the inside working to their benefit just like all the other bought out politicians & federal officials...
http://community.nasdaq.com/News/20...-by-congress.aspx?storyid=90349#ixzz1V6WJKweI
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I'd have to think with the few billion and extra cell sites T-Mobile would get from the deal falling through, we might make out okay. If the deal went through, we'd be doomed. AT&T is the worse provider in the world and should be shut down.
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Agree
Agree. Really hope the deal fails like flat breaks.

I would love to see the deal fall through considering I just paid two ETFs of 200 dollars to leave ATT last night and switch to T-mobile. I've been with ATT for almost ten years, dealing with tech support and unresolved issues was the last straw.

Either way, Tmobile people will win.
If the deal fails - there is a roaming agreement with ATT, and Tmobile gets cash + spectrum (enough spectrum to deploy LTE - which is odd since ATT says they don't have enough as it is).
If the deal does go through, then you have a combined network, and your plan will be grandfathered in.
Either way, service is going to be improved.

bobdelt said:
Either way, Tmobile people will win.
If the deal fails - there is a roaming agreement with ATT, and Tmobile gets cash + spectrum (enough spectrum to deploy LTE - which is odd since ATT says they don't have enough as it is).
If the deal does go through, then you have a combined network, and your plan will be grandfathered in.
Either way, service is going to be improved.
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My service is excellent now. If AT&T gets it grubby little paws on the network in NYC, its going to go down hill. AT&T does not grandfather plans. Once my contract is up, my plan goes up. I HATE AT&T will a passion. To the point that any media outlet that runs this AT&T "the possibilities are impossible to predict..." advertisement, I boycott that media source.

What's the cheapest plan anyone has in here?
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My fear is this...
I had a bad experience with Cingular back in the day and it left a pretty sour taste in my mouth. I'm not normally one of those people that says "never again!" to things based on one support rep, bad billing issue, etc... I'll normally work through a brunt of issues before declaring war on a company.
I won't go into great detail but it is war now. It's made me consider cancelling my plan with Tmobile and withdrawing service to someone/something else. If ever there is a time to investigate gizmo and sip service with wifi, it's now... I'm not completely there yet, but I have begun to investigate.
The first sign of doomsday has already struck, my unlimited loyalty plan has slowly increased in price, and I haven't changed single thing about my plan and now I suddenly have a cap on my "unlimited" data... the tmobile I signed up with back in 2004 is not the same tmobile it is now... and I've only just recently noticed it. Yes, it is possibly because since the news of the merger I have feared the worst... but so far it's grim. It seemed like they have also slowed down production on new phones for tmobile, I'm assuming this is because of network merging etc that they are focusing their eyes on other tasks first, but I'm disheartened to say the least.
I hope that I am proven wrong because I already hate Sprint and I'm not 100% sold on verizon either. Tmobile, please, reconsider your "unlimited data" plans and give me what I pay for... otherwise you should have given me the option to change and void my contract instead of changing it and saying "deal with it", which has never been your MO until the news of a merger.
/rant

Sadly this is ATT's tactic. They are trying to scare away as many customers from tmob as they can. The weaker tmobile is the easier the buyout will pass.
The commercials they are running make me sick.

Lets all go into an at&t store and kick them all in the ass
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If xda had a like button I would hit it for you.
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New info:
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/08/fcc-wants-info-on-att-tmobile-merger.html

Its funny I remember being a kid and there was no verizon or cell phones even. The Govt broke up the monopoly and created the baby bells to promote competition and make phone service affordable and give us a choice.
Now cell phones are today what landlines were back then and they are doing just the opposite. AT&T wants Tmobile to get rid of competition. The less choices one has the more customers for AT&T.
In todays economy everyone has to look at costs. My company just switched to Tmobile because of the new business plans that they started to offer. If the merger goes through and the plans don't grandfather in, I cant see my company staying with AT&T but for two years they get to save some money.

Stephenson is a giant turd.
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ENJOY!!!
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Department of Justice Throws Cold Water on AT&T-TMO Merger

Hey AT&T, what did the DOJ's five fingers say to your face:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...t-to-block-proposed-at-t-t-mobile-merger.html

I have so much hate for AT&T for their outrageous pricing, terrible service, and I just hate them. Can't explain it. Maybe because I've been with Tmo for almost 8 years.
Hope this merger goes down in flames.

and then I was like F*&k YEAH!!!!!!! It's about time we got some actual anti trust enforcement! I highly doubt many tmobile customers will be disappointed by this!

Good news indeed. However, this is far from over. AT&T have about 7 billion reasons to keep fighting for the deal to go through.

Coolness! I despise AT$T! Everything about them makes my skin crawl. Now we need the FCC to get behind this.

I'm glad DOJ did what they did. I can't stand at&t. Them and Verisux! Charging outragious prices. Thank You DOJ for looking out for the little people. It shows that greed doesn't always win in the end.
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Yea!
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For once I'm glad the DOJ did something about this. There's an update where ATT CEO commented on how it's on the burden of proof from the DOJ to prove why the deal is bad.

FCC says will not undermine DOJ in AT&T review
http://news.yahoo.com/t-t-mobile-de...BzdGNhdAN0ZWNoBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3​WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Communications Commission said it will not undermine the Justice Department in its review of AT&T Inc's $39 billion bid for Deutsche Telekom AG's T-Mobile USA.
The Justice Department filed a lawsuit to block the deal on Wednesday because of anti-competition concerns.
The FCC has never approved a significant takeover that the Justice Department has challenged in court, a commission official said.
(Reporting by Jasmin Melvin. Editing by Robert MacMillan)

The FCC has never approved a significant takeover that the Justice Department has challenged in court, a commission official said.
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Sweet Justice!

If the merger falls through that would actually encourage me to cancel my contract and go back to AT&T because T-Mobile service in my area is just bad and my experience with the G2x isn't much better.

HOORAY!
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The Prayers of many have been heard.
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This injunction is nothing more than the Obama regime shaking down AT&T. They have done it to other groups and companies. It is standard operating procedure for Obama. AT&T will pay their pound of flesh (or whatever Obama really wants) and the issue will be dismissed.
Just last week Google bought their way out of trouble for half a billion.

This is the response from the company that owns T-Mobile
www.tmonews.com/2011/08/deutsche-telekom-responds-to-department-of-justice-lawsuit/
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Everyone cried about Tmo's data cap. Verizon and ATT are capped also. For kicks I went to ATT to check pricing on Iphone. 1 phone plan was nearly the same as the 5 I have on Tmo. After I told that to the rep he closed the brochure and said yes thats our priceplan. I politely pointed out that thats probably the reason I was the only one in the store and made my way to the door.
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moshe22 said:
The Prayers of many have been heard.
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What you guys don't understand is that T-Mobile can't make it on its own. That's why Deutsche Telekom was unloading it. They also can't afford the investment necessary to move to LTE and staying on HSPA isn't a viable long-term competitive option. Discounting their way to success (the current strategy) isn't viable when they have the highest unit cost base of the four major carriers. If the deal falls through, they'll end up merging with Sprint. Combining Sprint's CDMA network with T-Mobile's GSM network isn't going to be fun for either set of customers. Be careful what you wish for.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/31/deutschetelekom-usa-idUSL5E7JV34720110831

Lightning Blue said:
If the merger falls through that would actually encourage me to cancel my contract and go back to AT&T because T-Mobile service in my area is just bad and my experience with the G2x isn't much better.
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Ok well dont let the door hit you on the way out
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Hopefully the 3 billion t-mobile gets for it falling thru will be put to good use.
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tackleberry said:
Hopefully the 3 billion t-mobile gets for it falling thru will be put to good use.
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Yup. Mad people are forgetting that.
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T-mobile - AT&T

Did everybody miss it?
For whoever did miss it - AT&T is not getting t-mobile,
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t-mobile is getting some money out of it, which has absolutely no importance to us.
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some spectrum which right now also doesn't matter to us.
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a roaming agreement with AT&T which, depending on the agreement might have a tremendous importance to us
how cool is that???

well, roaming costs $... :sigh:
It was all a waste of T-Mobiles time/money, imo.
But the Offer to buy t-mobile (by anyone) is still on the table.
Sounds like Google and Dish Networks are interested.

roaming is free so it's not a problem but having at&t coverage is nice.
Rumors about google -tmobile were around since google came out with android and they still didn't make the move so I guess it's off the table.
Now, dish - possibly, but there are now rumors that at&t is actually interested in buying dish so go figure.
For at&t there are no options really. They need the spectrum so no matter what they have to buy something or die.

Tmobile gets in excess of 3 billion from at and t not a waste
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ericmpanda said:
Tmobile gets in excess of 3 billion from at and t not a waste
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Tmo's parent company DT will get that money. They have made it clear they are not interested in investing any more in Tmo usa. They desparately want to get rid off Tmo usa.
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Also think of all the jobs were saved by the justice departments intervening in the takeover. From those who sell T-Mobile phones and services to all the people in corporate and IT. Thousands of people have a new lease on their livelihoods.
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