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Quick live wallpapers+sticking?

First off am I the only one that wishes the original opengl would stick? Performance was alot better for that one (especially for the nexus wallpaper). Is getting the performance of the original live wallpaper we had and the sticking of the new patch possible? Right now that is the only problem stopping my phone from being the sex.
EDIT: Problem seems to happen when another widget is updated. Its not perfectly smooth, but not bad, but when a widget updates it really slows down the wallpaper to a noticeable halt. I doubt im the first to notice this, but for anyone else that really wants nexus wallpaper, having less widgets on your main page seems to help.
I moved the news+weather widget you see below to another page and it seems to jitter less.

I agree. Losing the performance from the new OpenGL isn't worth having LWP's. They might have a fix for this when Toast's Awesome Sauce ROM is complete.

mrinehart93 said:
I agree. Losing the performance from the new OpenGL isn't worth having LWP's. They might have a fix for this when Toast's Awesome Sauce ROM is complete.
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Ive wanted them ever since i saw them and i think its pretty awesome
that we can run them @ all on a phone that has half the horsepower
as their intended to run on. be happy you have the option. If you like
them i dont really exp all this slowdown everyone is crying about now
that they work, and its not like a bounty hunting sprint dealer is going to
hunt you down and put them in your phone.........so the choice is yours
but no sense in being anything other than greatful for what we have atm
unless you have something to help us improve the issue as it stands.
Maybe you could try to solve the issue for us rather than wasting your time
posting about waiting for the devs who do for free to come up with the
next great fix.Good Luck with your waiting.....Ill be busy asking questions
and doing research to find answers and fixes to my issues. And Yes if i wasnt
happy with them so far thats what id be doing but i got my victory about
1 week ago when i stumbled across someone in another forum with the
patch for them to stick on another phone. My goal was getting them to
stick....and im very happy with what i have now. With that ability we
can now have FULL FUNCTION roms, which we couldnt do before.

MagnusRagnarok said:
Ive wanted them ever since i saw them and i think its pretty awesome
that we can run them @ all on a phone that has half the horsepower
as their intended to run on. be happy you have the option. If you like
them i dont really exp all this slowdown everyone is crying about now
that they work, and its not like a bounty hunting sprint dealer is going to
hunt you down and put them in your phone.........so the choice is yours
but no sense in being anything other than greatful for what we have atm
unless you have something to help us improve the issue as it stands.
Maybe you could try to solve the issue for us rather than wasting your time
posting about waiting for the devs who do for free to come up with the
next great fix.Good Luck with your waiting.....Ill be busy asking questions
and doing research to find answers and fixes to my issues. And Yes if i wasnt
happy with them so far thats what id be doing but i got my victory about
1 week ago when i stumbled across someone in another forum with the
patch for them to stick on another phone. My goal was getting them to
stick....and im very happy with what i have now. With that ability we
can now have FULL FUNCTION roms, which we couldnt do before.
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Yeah I disagree with "there is no point in having them if it is slower".......the patch works pretty dam well with most wallpapers its just the peski nexus being alittle to slow to be usable for me. MagnusRagnarok my OP was not an attack on you at all. I am extremely thankful for what you have done, and hope you have not taken my post that way. I am just trying to see if more people feel the same way as me. For me getting the nexus one wallpaper running alittle bit better would get me closer to completing my phone.

Ill bump since I edited my first post. Hopefully someone finds it helpful.

bob2300nx said:
First off am I the only one that wishes the original opengl would stick? Performance was alot better for that one (especially for the nexus wallpaper). Is getting the performance of the original live wallpaper we had and the sticking of the new patch possible? Right now that is the only problem stopping my phone from being the sex.
EDIT: Problem seems to happen when another widget is updated. Its not perfectly smooth, but not bad, but when a widget updates it really slows down the wallpaper to a noticeable halt. I doubt im the first to notice this, but for anyone else that really wants nexus wallpaper, having less widgets on your main page seems to help.
I moved the news+weather widget you see below to another page and it seems to jitter less.
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Hey guys, I know a lot of us have been dying to get the nexus wallpaper working without having to do the opengl fix to make wallpapers stick, seeing as it made the wallpaper ran really choppy. I found a way to get it to stick, run smooth, and not have to change the opengl. I used the update zip posted by emerica6541 and it stuck right on and have ran smooth ever since. Granted he did modify the wallpaper so the lights are smaller, but I think it looks better that way on our heroes due to the smaller screen. It has survived multiple reboots, and over 30 mins of sleep time. I am running darch's legend rom though, so I'm not sure if this will work for damage's or flipz's roms, but its worth a shot.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6174675&postcount=49

blu3g said:
Hey guys, I know a lot of us have been dying to get the nexus wallpaper working without having to do the opengl fix to make wallpapers stick, seeing as it made the wallpaper ran really choppy. I found a way to get it to stick, run smooth, and not have to change the opengl. I used the update zip posted by emerica6541 and it stuck right on and have ran smooth ever since. Granted he did modify the wallpaper so the lights are smaller, but I think it looks better that way on our heroes due to the smaller screen. It has survived multiple reboots, and over 30 mins of sleep time. I am running darch's legend rom though, so I'm not sure if this will work for damage's or flipz's roms, but its worth a shot.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6174675&postcount=49
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Thank you very much for the post. I have tried flashing that before and it did not seem to work (this is on a fresh build). Ill try again, if not maybe a kind soul could look at it and see how to port onto fresh/damage build.
This is the point of the thread, not to shoot down other's hard work but to improve on it....I think thats what xda is about.

bob2300nx said:
Thank you very much for the post. I have tried flashing that before and it did not seem to work (this is on a fresh build). Ill try again, if not maybe a kind soul could look at it and see how to port onto fresh/damage build.
This is the point of the thread, not to shoot down other's hard work but to improve on it....I think thats what xda is about.
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Just a note though, when you first set the wallpaper, your phone will freeze for a min, then it'll take you to the bootscreen. Once it reloads, you should be good to go.

blu3g said:
Just a note though, when you first set the wallpaper, your phone will freeze for a min, then it'll take you to the bootscreen. Once it reloads, you should be good to go.
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I had it on my sd. Sadly it does not seem to make any difference. It is smooth enough (alittle bit jittery but not too bad) but once a widget updates it stops just like the other version of nexus wallpaper.

bob2300nx said:
I had it on my sd. Sadly it does not seem to make any difference. It is smooth enough (alittle bit jittery but not too bad) but once a widget updates it stops just like the other version of nexus wallpaper.
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Hmm, that's odd. Are you running the new opengl fix to get the other wallpapers to stick? Because I am still running the old opengl that came standard on darch's Rom.

blu3g said:
Hmm, that's odd. Are you running the new opengl fix to get the other wallpapers to stick? Because I am still running the old opengl that came standard on darch's Rom.
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Oh no, i am running the new openGL. I will try the old one thanks! Should have read your original post better.

One thing that is weird is that the LWP stick with the old openGL if its plugged into the computer. Does the phone not sleep if its plugged into a computer?

blu3g said:
Hmm, that's odd. Are you running the new opengl fix to get the other wallpapers to stick? Because I am still running the old opengl that came standard on darch's Rom.
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Well your right, so I used the old openGL and performance was alot better, BUT it did not stick. Is it possible your phone is not sleeping?

Screen hue/color calibration?

Anyone know if there is an app to tweak/calibrate the screen color?
TIA
-Wi-Fi Xoom-

I have seen this question asked several times in other forums but nobody seems to have an answer. Sorry about that.

dimitri407 said:
I have seen this question asked several times in other forums but nobody seems to have an answer. Sorry about that.
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I had one for my EVO about 4 or 5 months ago and it worked great but I don't remember what it was called...highly doubtful it would even work on the xoom but ya never know...
Azrael X 4.0

Need to get this working somehow
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...a-universal-version-takes-aim-at-more-phones/
Azrael X 4.0

Abracastabya said:
Need to get this working somehow
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...a-universal-version-takes-aim-at-more-phones/
Azrael X 4.0
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I installed it but as soon as I touch a slider it force closes...

funnycreature said:
I installed it but as soon as I touch a slider it force closes...
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Ya I figured it would but +1 for trying it out anyways! I hope one of the many talented devs here at xda can get a hold of it and make it an stand alone app!
Azrael X 4.0

I'm sorry that I didn't provide the link. Maybe I'll remember tomorrow!
[sent with Xooming Android technology]

... Showing my interest also.

It looks like it's going to take a recompile of libsurfaceflinger.so. I tried using adb to push it to my xoom (just for the fun of it, since I knew I couldn't truly brick it by doing it) and it hung on the dual core tech screen with both of the versions of libsurfaceflinger.so that were provided in the link (they're the files in the .zip updates that are replaced).
It will probably have to wait until the honeycomb source is released before we see this solution supported, unless someone knows how to hex edit the existing honeycomb libsurfaceflinger.so (if it's similar enough to Froyo's or gingerbread's). I looked for the changes that they made to it to support the color calibration and all I could find is that they had made the changes in the "source". (Whether that's C or ASM, I don't know).
Short answer is, unless someone has found another way to do it- this method's probably not going to happen until honeycomb source is released.

Ianas said:
It looks like it's going to take a recompile of libsurfaceflinger.so. I tried using adb to push it to my xoom (just for the fun of it, since I knew I couldn't truly brick it by doing it) and it hung on the dual core tech screen with both of the versions of libsurfaceflinger.so that were provided in the link (they're the files in the .zip updates that are replaced).
It will probably have to wait until the honeycomb source is released before we see this solution supported, unless someone knows how to hex edit the existing honeycomb libsurfaceflinger.so (if it's similar enough to Froyo's or gingerbread's). I looked for the changes that they made to it to support the color calibration and all I could find is that they had made the changes in the "source". (Whether that's C or ASM, I don't know).
Short answer is, unless someone has found another way to do it- this method's probably not going to happen until honeycomb source is released.
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Dang! Good work man! Even though it was a no-go its still good to see someone trying things out
Azrael X 4.0

I know its been a while, but...
I'd be interested in something like this too, if it is made to work on the Xoom. I bought my Xoom partially to show my photography portfolio, so I would pay for an app to let me fine tune the color.
Doug

Yes, I would also pay/donate for a solution. I also noticed, that the screen hue is dependant on screen brightness level. It would be great if a brightness level dependant compensation could be implemented.
Also a Photographer btw.
Greetings from Germany!
Chris

YES we definitely need to get something like this going, should be a very high priority among XOOM devs, IMO.

I think so, too. I can't believe so few people are complaining about this!

Sounds like you will want to look at this tip of mine found here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099941
It's not exactly what you were looking for but it does enhance the Xoom's screen quality and diaplays a little nicer color. I am gathering a list of user known issues so that we can help solve them and possibly get some new features added. Hope this was helpful.

Yes, me too please. I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1v and just got a Xoom WiFi. The colors on the Tab are much richer and gray is accurate. On the Xoom the color is definately on the 'cold' side by being a bit blue and the saturation looks a bit washed out.
I work with Photoshop all day on a calibrated monitor so perhaps I am being a bit picky but the GT 10.1v is much closer to my monitor than the Xoom.

CHT switches question??

Hi.
Apologies if this has been asked before but I've searched for a specific answer to my problem and can't seem to find the exact answer I'm looking for.
I've had my HD2 for around 18 months and still love it, great phone. Last year I had CHT installed, one of the early versions. At some point it started to crash and cause problems etc. so I uninstalled it and forgot about it really. Anyway, I recently installed it again and after several installs and uninstalls I got version 1.7.1.2 to run with no problems. It just seems to be the most stable on my phone. I'm happy with that, it suits my needs fine. All I'm really interested in is the additional pages and quick links on the home page and the smaller clock which also displays my appointments, missed calls, weather, text etc. I'm obviously running the same version of editor side by side and I did have to update my .NET framework to 3.5 (I think).
However, there is one thing I'm missing, where has the switches gone that used to be on the original version I had. The little black and white ones for switching the Wi-Fi on, or rebooting the phone. I did find these very useful but either I'm doing something wrong or they're not on the version I have. Which seems a little strange as I'd have thought this would have been a step backwards. Or, do I have to install an additional file to have these as well? If so, could someone kindly point me to an idiots guide on how to get them please. I'm no techie but I can manage simple instructions, lol.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards.
Darren.

The first switches and notifications in CHT came with version 1.8.0. Look here for the changelog.

Aaaaahhh, now that I wasn't aware of.
Many thanks for answering my question, much appreciated.
Darren.

Hi Flatcap2010,
Just a recommendation, give a try to CHT 2.0.0 version, it works great on the HTC HD2. Also we get a good support on this one and there is some nice "crazy" guys that still developing new good stuff for it
Best regards and good look

Flatcap2010 said:
However, there is one thing I'm missing, where has the switches gone that used to be on the original version I had. The little black and white ones for switching the Wi-Fi on, or rebooting the phone.
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You can find Touch X reset and wifi.cab here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
then add it as quicklink.

[email protected] said:
Hi Flatcap2010,
Just a recommendation, give a try to CHT 2.0.0 version, it works great on the HTC HD2. Also we get a good support on this one and there is some nice "crazy" guys that still developing new good stuff for it
Best regards and good look
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Hi all....apologies for the late reply but I've been away working. Many thanks for your input, I'm now successfully running the latest version with no problems at all, runs brilliantly and no issues of the battery draining etc. It really does take this phone to a whole new level, absolutely fantastic!
I was due to upgrade just after Christmas but I doubt I will now. The HTC HD2 with this mod and a couple of others little tweeks still takes some beating in my eyes. It was streets ahead when it first came out and can still give a lot the newer phones a run for their money.
Thanks again to all concerned, very much appreciated.
Darren.

Flatcap2010 said:
I was due to upgrade just after Christmas but I doubt I will now. The HTC HD2 with this mod and a couple of others little tweeks still takes some beating in my eyes. It was streets ahead when it first came out and can still give a lot the newer phones a run for their money.
Thanks again to all concerned, very much appreciated.
Darren.
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same here bud, im due a new phone in january but i think i'll rock hd2 a little longer, great phone thanks to the awesome guys on this forum.......
ps: wait untill you start messing about with all the fantsatic widgets the guys have made, awesome !!!

[Q] Multi-Window feature ??

Is there a multi-window feature MOD for the asus tf700 . It is a feature in Samsung Galagxy Tab 10.1 and newly implemented in the new update of the JB in galaxy S3. I flashed a MOD in my Galaxy s2 and the feature works just fine . So is there any MOD for this feature in asus tf700 ??
I really need it in my tab.

amqz2010 said:
Is there a multi-window feature MOD for the asus tf700 . It is a feature in Samsung Galagxy Tab 10.1 and newly implemented in the new update of the JB in galaxy S3. I flashed a MOD in my Galaxy s2 and the feature works just fine . So is there any MOD for this feature in asus tf700 ??
I really need it in my tab.
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No, there is not, and there probably will not be. No non-Samsung device has ever been able to do it, so if this is mission critical for you, off to Samsung your dollars go.

MartyHulskemper said:
No, there is not, and there probably will not be. No non-Samsung device has ever been able to do it, so if this is mission critical for you, off to Samsung your dollars go.
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So, what exactly is it that makes this specific to Samsung devices?

danger-rat said:
So, what exactly is it that makes this specific to Samsung devices?
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The framework. There's another thread going on about this already. I'm not going into a fork here.
Also, keep in mind what happened to Overskreen. That makes it higly unlikely that anyone is going to invest the immense time and resources needed until Google's stance on the matters softens.
EDIT_BY_INTERJECTION: forgot to say it's in the CleanROM Inheritance thread, as a feature request. And a no-no.
To specifically answer your question, by the way: I guess Samsung feels large and powerful enough to go against Google. Their partnership might help, I dunno.
It's not a technical thing in itself, as we have developers aboard that could pull this off. Hell, we have devs aboard trumping the engineers of the manufacturers themselves, so that says something. It's politics.

So, maybe a link to the other thread would be a more useful and appropriate response?
From your response, it's still not clear what makes this specific to Samsung devices, since all ROMs I've worked on contain a framework, and it clearly isn't specific to TouchWiz.
I realize that Google has quashed attempts at this in the past, specifically Overskreen, but the fact that there are working options out there could be indicative of a change in philosophy, perhaps?
As far as the CleanROM thread, all I saw was sbdags ask for a link and then you (in typical fashion) insert your option in a less than helpful manner. Humble up. If you don't plan on helping, I don't see why you would take the time to be unpleasant...
I was brought up with the understanding that if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all...

EDIT: one long reply with argumentation you wouldn't understand or accept anyway, I think. Thought the better of it. I'll take your post as a shining example of what a constructive post does not look like, stupid motto and such incorporated.

It is a touchwiz thing. Touchwiz is not just a launcher slapped on top it is built into the framework of Samsung firmware, much like sense is built into HTC frameworks. You can't use sense widgets on non sense ROMs and you can't use multi screen on non Touchwiz based ROMs.

I'm not even knowledgeable enough (yet) to concur with you (although I thought the same this morning, I'd dare not put that in writing for sheer terror of saying something so stupid I'd be a "Chinese volunteer" for the first no-return mission to Saturn). Thanks for chiming in, though.

sbdags said:
It is a touchwiz thing. Touchwiz is not just a launcher slapped on top it is built into the framework of Samsung firmware, much like sense is built into HTC frameworks. You can't use sense widgets on non sense ROMs and you can't use multi screen on non Touchwiz based ROMs.
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Thanks sbdags - I had pretty good idea of the answer, I was just wondering if Marty did...
A few people had Cornerstone running on the Prime earlier in the year, so I didn't think that dual screen was completely impossible, however the odds are stacked up against a daily driver right now...

danger-rat said:
Thanks sbdags - I had pretty good idea of the answer, I was just wondering if Marty did...
A few people had Cornerstone running on the Prime earlier in the year, so I didn't think that dual screen was completely impossible, however the odds are stacked up against a daily driver right now...
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I have seen the concepts of Cornerstone. I would love to see that being imlemented in a ROM for or Infinities. I do use StickIT to be able to watch videos while still using the rest of the screen but a full on Multi Tasking feature would be awsome if possible. I know that the 1 GB RAM limit might hinder it a bit but who knows, mabey sbdags could look into it for a future feature in his CleanROM Inheritance ROM's.

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From your response, it's still not clear what makes this specific to Samsung devices, since all ROMs I've worked on contain a framework, and it clearly isn't specific to TouchWiz.
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It is a touchwiz thing. Touchwiz is not just a launcher slapped on top it is built into the framework of Samsung firmware, much like sense is built into HTC frameworks.
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Thanks sbdags - I had pretty good idea of the answer, I was just wondering if Marty did..
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So may I conclude I had a better idea of what the answer was than you? I tell you it's a framework-dependent feature, you say it is "clearly NOT Tochwiz-dependent". Next thing, sbdags tells you TouchWiz is built into the framework, and then you say <chuckle> that you knew that all along, but was just wondering if I knew that. At least I had a good laugh: you twist and turn and twist a bit more. You can throw around your morals all you want, but on the technical side of things, it's either this or that, and there's not that much room to verbally wiggle into being correct. I'd say you have been corrected.

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So may I conclude I had a better idea of what the answer was than you? I tell you it's a framework-dependent feature, you say it is "clearly NOT Tochwiz-dependent". Next thing, sbdags tells you TouchWiz is built into the framework, and then you say <chuckle> that you knew that all along, but was just wondering if I knew that. At least I had a good laugh: you twist and turn and twist a bit more. You can throw around your morals all you want, but on the technical side of things, it's either this or that, and there's not that much room to verbally wiggle into being correct. I'd say you have been corrected.
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Wow... almost don't want to add anything to this flaming thread, but am also a user who is looking for some way to do this stuff on the tf700. Here is a thread that explains most of what the "framework" is and what it does. It is worth mentioning that things in android are already built for multiwindow interfaces but the options for the support are not turned on and some of the functionality is broken. The biggest hangup for this working is the app programmers, who have to make their apps compatible. Since google does not want to police what apps are and are not supporting the feature, they just blanket deny the ability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937270
or this for all apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961813

jordanmw said:
Wow... almost don't want to add anything to this flaming thread, but am also a user who is looking for some way to do this stuff on the tf700. Here is a thread that explains most of what the "framework" is and what it does. It is worth mentioning that things in android are already built for multiwindow interfaces but the options for the support are not turned on and some of the functionality is broken. The biggest hangup for this working is the app programmers, who have to make their apps compatible. Since google does not want to police what apps are and are not supporting the feature, they just blanket deny the ability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937270
or this for all apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961813
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actually I am not sure if it has to do with the app programmers because on my note 2, with jedi x9 rom all apps do work on multiwindow. So all apps by default just resize. for me it is a matter of time before it becomes standard in some sort on the base google code since it is already there not just implemented on anything other than touchwiz. we can already see a bit with paranandroid stuff and the resizing between tablet and phone screen sizes. some apps (cant remember well) already do the floating. .. so guys patience or has someone said treat uncle sammy for the score and get one of those galactic phones. the thing I would want programmer to focus on is multiwindow and multi monitors outputs with my hdmi output on my tf700 or the airplay android equivalent around the corner.

Conversion i9505 to i9505G - Discussion/Rant

I'm not smart enough to do it myself.. however, I am still amazed that no one has been able to work out how to convert an i9505 into a i9505G. I know the partition layout is different, and I also know that there are ported 4.3 GE roms available.. BUT all of that aside.. has Samsung won the war here?
Which leads me to a separate subject.. but.. their knox efuse.. while it hasn't been long.. it looks like they have won there as well.
In any case.. I'm more interested in the conversion to i9505G. Does anyone know more than I do about the status or possibility of ever being able to convert a i9505 to a i9505G?

Well.. This is not as easy as you may think.
Need someone who has both I9505 and I9505G. Also need special connection to I9505 like JTAG to get direct access to flash. Then using JTAG try to dump whole flash from I9505G and upload it to I9505. And then depend on success and whole result, procedure can be simplified.
But JTAG is required at experiment stage if you are not so rich who can afford to buy tens (if not hundred) I9505 while experimenting

A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .

Aerys said:
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
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That's why i've mentioned JTAG. Google JTAG if you wanna know what is that.

Aerys said:
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.

xyzulu said:
People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.

Aerys said:
I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?

Noorish said:
Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms

Easton999GS said:
Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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I couldn't care less about running ROMs. I unlocked the bootloader but otherwise I leave my devices stock and unrooted. I know how to root and install ROMs but once I knew how, my curiosity was satisfied.
Honestly, I have had Nexus devices my entire Android life. I decided to branch out and try a GS4 with Touchwiz. I really liked my I337, so much in fact, that I also ended up purchasing a Galaxy Note 8.0 as well. There are definitely things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see Google add to the stock user experience. I'm referring to things like air view and having separate wallpapers for the home and lock screens. Alas, though, when you've used stock Android as much as I have, it's hard to use anything else.
The only thing I truly miss about Touchwiz is the camera app. The camera was simply amazing. The other things that are important to me, namely the IR blaster and the S-View cover functionality, both work flawlessly on the I9505G.
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android. And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
I would think about I9505G over I9505 only as device with bigger user storage running custom TW ROM, but it looks like not much success here.
From other side, you can buy 32GB version of I9505 and don't think about 16GB-only I9505G.
But hey, there are SHV-E330 and GT-I9506 already

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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android.
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You mean Holo I believe. That's why I use stock Android. TW with its different colors, big buttons that are not even separated from others and mixed styles in applications is really crazy and a pain to use. For people that like to use a phone without distractions it's a plain and simple fail.
Nice to have options as we're all not the same, you keep your TW phone, I will keep my stock Android one.
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And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!

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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
If you think, it's not serious, then hold on and think first. May be other person, who is talking about this, knows something you don't know.
I'm not even talking about how serious people who are buying non-Nexus device and then whining about CM/AOSP in half of topics.

sorg said:
Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
In any case what you might consider essential I might consider a waste of resources.
That was the point of my post. That's why Android is a success.
And if you don't like to read people talking about changing non-Google devices you might be better off XDA.
XDA Developers was founded for developers by developers. It is now a valuable resource for people who want to make the most of their mobile devices, from customizing the look and feel to adding new functionality.

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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
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If you are able to create custom ROM then removing unneeded apps (and even editing framework to cleanup from some useless features) is much easier than add absent functionality.
I suppose, we are on XDA, i.e. developer's forum right? If you are talking from regular user point of view who usually don't know what is "root", then it's out of scope of this board. Just buy Nexus device and then you are set.
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And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I've told you already: there is no way to truly replace lockscreen by any other application. Lockscreen is a part of framework, not APK. I'm using android devices not the first year, and believe me, i've tried these apps long long time ago. These apps mimic lockscreen using some security holes in OS, but they are not replacing lockscreen. Actually, device remains unlocked all the time. Also there are many bugs and glitches because such apps trying to suppress original lockscreen with different kinds of success/fail.
As for modifying device: there are many ways to modify and it's not exactly by installing CM/AOSP. You can check my topics to see that i'm not just user.
XDA has been created long time before CM/AOSP and believe me there are many other good ways to modify the device. CM/AOSP have their own dedicated forums and repositories which should suit your needs better than XDA (if you want to compete in pointing directions to others).
P.S.: look into I9505G forum to see how users begging to add samsung's standard camera app which doesn't work on non-TW ROM.
Suggest them to install some app from Google play
The same can tell about video player and amount of video and audio codecs integrated into TW ROM. On TW ROM i can use nearly any music player and able to playback almost any audio and video. On GE ROM you have to find special audio player having support of some specific format, and then try to get used to its bugs without choice to switch to another player. With video player it's even worse...
Also, CM/AOSP usually don't have tight integration when it comes to Hardware 3D acceleration. Some selected devices (usually Nexus and GE devices) have good 3D support, but only some.
The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.

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The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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I never denied that TW based ROMs have value for some people, just that as well stock Android is much more attractive for others. If not we wouldn't be discussing this and you wouldn't see the kind of activity we see in this forum.
And I still disagree on the "easier" issue but I fail to see any benefit in continuing the discussion.

got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...

spilksch said:
got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
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Look at the window?

So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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andreqm said:
So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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Why would you need to ? You have CM/TW/GE to choose from when using the i9505 partition layout. Took us a couple of hours to get KitKat after the GE got it (broodplank delivered AOSP 4.4 even earlier).