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[req] Samsung S Launcher

ok... here is the link to download.. http://www.mediafire.com/file/nynnnu0mjnn/Galaxy%20S.apk
I don't see it was on app section... Now, we can resolve the graphics issue??
So, I want to do a theme rom (for cyanogen 6) with Galaxy launcher, widget.. etc... someone want to help me??
p.s. **** all the people offend other people... if you don't like samsung galaxy S launcher go away from this 3d... open your door an go to walk in the street.... your life can be better...and your lard can go away....
p.p.s. I'm italian...so.. sorry for my poor poor english....but I know..you've understand...
Hi,
can someone port the launcher of Samsung S to our G1??
here is a link for the desire http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710951
or..if someone can say to me how do, I try to port..

dude just use ADW launcher and enable horizontal drawer

Ultima94 said:
dude just use ADW launcher and enable horizontal drawer
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I'm just using adw... I want the samsung S launcher for the backgrounds of the icons...
if adw in future release add this function would be cool (more that is now..)
I love ADW, but I want Samsung S launcher....or ADW with this mod (the icon)

personally i hate ADW i think its performance is subpar. launcher+ is a very very quick home but slightly lacking in features, why dont the XDA community trow together our own G1 optimized home app the way the people want it, Oh and yes we need a port of that Galaxy home.

sabianadmin said:
personally i hate ADW i think its performance is subpar. launcher+ is a very very quick home but slightly lacking in features, why dont the XDA community trow together our own G1 optimized home app the way the people want it, Oh and yes we need a port of that Galaxy home.
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ADW suffices. Anyone who "hates" ADW or thinks it's "sub-par" is not smart enough to explore all the settings. One checkbox could literally make the biggest difference. It has almost everything the touchwiz offers other than all the icons being iPhone like. With all these phones coming out, ive chosen to look forward, my g1 did me well but i'm actually getting a samsung vibrant because even though all these new things are constantly being ported to our G1's, it doesn't change the fact that the processor and hardware struggle to run it. It seems like an extensive metamorph to ADW would actually get you what you're looking for, so maybe learn how to make themes? Requesting this isn't a quick tedious task, if someone did take this challenge on it would end up being an extensive project before it was 100% stable.

sabianadmin said:
personally i hate ADW i think its performance is subpar. launcher+ is a very very quick home but slightly lacking in features, why dont the XDA community trow together our own G1 optimized home app the way the people want it, Oh and yes we need a port of that Galaxy home.
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Please elaborate on what you mean "our own"? and I wish it was as easy as "...trow together..." [sic]
AnderWebs has been really great with taking input from the community and created a respected and very useful launcher.
If you got the skills, by all means, make some competition. If you don't, be grateful for what has been developed in the community ( what was not provided by AOSP)

joe.kerwin said:
ADW suffices. Anyone who "hates" ADW or thinks it's "sub-par" is not smart enough to explore all the settings. One checkbox could literally make the biggest difference. It has almost everything the touchwiz offers other than all the icons being iPhone like. With all these phones coming out, ive chosen to look forward, my g1 did me well but i'm actually getting a samsung vibrant because even though all these new things are constantly being ported to our G1's, it doesn't change the fact that the processor and hardware struggle to run it. It seems like an extensive metamorph to ADW would actually get you what you're looking for, so maybe learn how to make themes? Requesting this isn't a quick tedious task, if someone did take this challenge on it would end up being an extensive project before it was 100% stable.
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Oh screw you, i voice my opinion and you basically call me an idiot? typical. this is why i dont come here that often. its performance IS subpar when you look at something like launcher pro, which is lightning fast you wonder why developers arnt spending more time working on getting the core of the application functioning at optimal performance before adding as many features as they can to it. i know every in and out of ADW i am currently running it at the moment, im also running the Galaxy S home app and even that is better than ADW on the G1. Ive been in software development for a number of years and im the kind of person who writes intuitive user interfaces that little pups like you use so dont even consider telling me im "not smart enough" when im coming to the table with experience under my belt. This god complex that people around here seem to have needs to end. Custom rom development is supposed to be fun and a hobby. its totally unimportant in the grander forum of life and you need to remember that. Thank you to the developers who spend their free time making our toys and gizmos more fun to use.

cal3thousand said:
Please elaborate on what you mean "our own"? and I wish it was as easy as "...trow together..." [sic]
AnderWebs has been really great with taking input from the community and created a respected and very useful launcher.
If you got the skills, by all means, make some competition. If you don't, be grateful for what has been developed in the community ( what was not provided by AOSP)
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i ment take an existing open source home application and optimize it to our platform and add features that the people want rather than it being delegated by one person. Democratic development. (sorry for my rant by the way i was just getting tired of all the sycophants lording it up in a custom rom development forum, its just sad)

what you COULD temporarily do is turn on all of the screens for ADW Launcher place all of the apps on the homescreen and set the default to the first one? Idk I think it would somewhat match the look but not sure if it would suffice...
Here's some screenshots of what I mean:

Personally I find samsung's custom UI a hindrance to otherwise good hardware, and it's the thing that turns me off to the galaxy line of phones, but to each his own. I believe there are various themes that you can download to change the look of the icons out there and some tweaking plus that should do the trick.
On a sidenote I don't notice any real lag or slowness from ADW. There is sometimes a hickup when closing a big program and going back to the home screen or during an initial wakeup after being asleep for a while or when I'm heavily multitasking while using swap, but that's something I've observed in my g1 since we stopped getting officially supported updates and it happens whether I'm on launcher pro or adw or the stock launcher.

jv2k said:
Personally I find samsung's custom UI a hindrance to otherwise good hardware, and it's the thing that turns me off to the galaxy line of phones, but to each his own. I believe there are various themes that you can download to change the look of the icons out there and some tweaking plus that should do the trick.
On a sidenote I don't notice any real lag or slowness from ADW. There is sometimes a hickup when closing a big program and going back to the home screen or during an initial wakeup after being asleep for a while or when I'm heavily multitasking while using swap, but that's something I've observed in my g1 since we stopped getting officially supported updates and it happens whether I'm on launcher pro or adw or the stock launcher.
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I definitely agree, most home replacements these days run just fine when set up correctly and the Samsung Galaxy S set up requires that many more swipes to get to what I need but this just shows the extent of the customization behind ADW.

sabianadmin said:
Oh screw you, i voice my opinion and you basically call me an idiot? typical. this is why i dont come here that often. its performance IS subpar when you look at something like launcher pro, which blah
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be fun and a hobby. its totally unimportant in the grander forum of life and you need to remember that. Thank you to the developers who spend their free time making our toys and gizmos more fun to use.
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LauncherPro, for one, is not "lightning fast", on my G1 anyway. Takes nearly a minute to set each shortcut? With ADW you just click and drop. All of them may have their weaknesses here and there but my ADW is always lightning quick on any 2.1 ROM i use. And typically, people that have been in software development for YEARS and YEARS tend to develop what they want to meet their needs, not take part in a thread asking for someone to take their time and do it. I for one have not been in software development for YEARS and YEARS, so I just appreciate what's given to me. That's all, not flaming. Well kinda.

joe.kerwin said:
LauncherPro, for one, is not "lightning fast", on my G1 anyway. Takes nearly a minute to set each shortcut? With ADW you just click and drop. All of them may have their weaknesses here and there but my ADW is always lightning quick on any 2.1 ROM i use. And typically, people that have been in software development for YEARS and YEARS tend to develop what they want to meet their needs, not take part in a thread asking for someone to take their time and do it. I for one have not been in software development for YEARS and YEARS, so I just appreciate what's given to me. That's all, not flaming. Well kinda.
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even your quote in the response was ignorant and now you look stupid, anyway its all personal preference. go back and test launcher pro because its the fastest one out there and it includes all the shortcuts that i want fron the get go, i was not offending you so you had no right to be offensive to me, if you're a prick people will be a prick back. you dont deserve a phone and i wish famine upon you.

sabianadmin said:
i ment take an existing open source home application and optimize it to our platform and add features that the people want rather than it being delegated by one person. Democratic development. (sorry for my rant by the way i was just getting tired of all the sycophants lording it up in a custom rom development forum, its just sad)
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Anderwebs took the aosp launcher and added the features the peoploe want. Its 100% open source and anybody can send source code pull request (cyanogen does it for example) or ask him for features (he added the real cool features after I forced him to)
Adding different home icons is 5 minute work. You wont eaven need source... Learn to do it yourself!

galaxy s launcher isn't hvga, so it's virtually impossible to port.
The only current samsung phone that IS hvga AND has that launcher is the samsung wave, which isn't even android.
Both the samsung acclaim and the sprint intercept have the stock-ish android launcher... no cool app drawer.
sorry folks.
Actually, is it possible to modify the build.prop on a rom and run at wvga? hm.... ima try.

TouchWiz
Never the mind

Im confused, dont we already have this in the app section ?
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Im, referring to the OP.

this thread is kickass!

personally i think that anderwebs (the creator of the Android Open Source Project, AOSP, as well as the ADW module for it) is a pretty cool guy. But this thread is about the Samsung S Launcher.
Well done that it isn't meant for our screens and would be almost impossible for the layman (but not anderwebs because he was co-founder to Android) to port. But OP I don't think this is gonna happen. I know I think the Samsung launcher is one of the ugliest things I've ever seen and I don't think I'm alone as there's very little interest atm.
LauncherPro is a cool guy but the dev doesn't share his work so automagically disregard that thought.

Ander webbs (ADW) is making the new version of his launcher right now. It will support theming and it will include a couple themes (most of the nice ones are going to be donate themes) but im sure a little after he releases it people will come out with some pretty cool themes for it and you might end up liking it better who knows? He said it would be out really soon so maybe tonight idk.

This is why manufacturers put custom skins.

I just used the galaxy nexus for the first time and I am shocked to find out that there is no way to rearrange the app drawer to make the latest installed applications appear at the end. To have alphabetical order as the only order seems laughable to me.
It is a feature I absolutely need so my point is why should I buy the galaxy nexus when the first thing I'll be doing is finding the right launcher that would probably significantly change the look?? Why shouldnt I get galaxy S2 instead which offers much more customization out of the box? It would eventually get ICS and would retain anything that touchwiz offers but ICS doesnt.
When customization is the holy grail of android it seems very puzzling why google continues to leave out such essential features. It only invites other manufacturers to implement these things themselves. If I was a person with suitable authority working in a company making android phones, I certainly would want this feature to be modified on my company's phones.

This whole rant over an alphebetized app drawer? Thats the only arrangement that makes sense anyway? Go ahead buddy, enjoy your bloatware.

lowandbehold said:
This whole rant over an alphebetized app drawer? Thats the only arrangement that makes sense anyway? Go ahead buddy, enjoy your bloatware.
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Funny, isn't that the very mentality you mock WP7 users for?

z33dev33l said:
Funny, isn't that the very mentality you mock WP7 users for?
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What are you even talking about here? WP7 doesnt have an app drawer?

lowandbehold said:
What are you even talking about here? WP7 doesnt have an app drawer?
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"That's the only arrangement that makes sense anyway." Okay, so it's the way you feel is most logical and thus it's the only way it should be implemented? You just blow up on anyone here who doesn't share your endearing adoration for android and it's sad. His point is certainly valid, and he didn't address it in an aggressive way.
To OP, I completely agree. I don't think I used the default launcher after launcher pro, and then ADW Launcher came out. It does tend to destroy the whole point of buying a phone without the, "bloatware."

z33dev33l said:
Funny, isn't that the very mentality you mock WP7 users for?
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The Android Market is full of different launchers. Contrary to WP7, we can run pretty much whatever we want, instead of being limited to what the vendor serves us.
And congratulations on staining yet another thread with WP7 stuff.

Gusar321 said:
The Android Market is full of different launchers. Contrary to WP7, we can run pretty much whatever we want, instead of being limited to what the vendor serves us.
And congratulations on staining yet another thread with WP7 stuff.
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For real, no one was even talking about WP7.

Gusar321 said:
The Android Market is full of different launchers. Contrary to WP7, we can run pretty much whatever we want, instead of being limited to what the vendor serves us.
And congratulations on staining yet another thread with WP7 stuff.
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Blah blah blah, won't run as smooth, blah blah blah, unbearable lag.
We've done this dance before and I don't intend to watch a couple of people who base their points on, "I can't see it, it's not there." attempt to piece together an argument against the fact that android still cannot get a hardware accelerated UI after all this time, and won't be able to without a ground up rewrite. Issues won't be resolved until they're addressed by the general populace.

z33dev33l said:
Blah blah blah, won't run as smooth, blah blah blah, unbearable lag.
We've done this dance before and I don't intend to watch a couple of people who base their points on, "I can't see it, it's not there." attempt to piece together an argument against the fact that android still cannot get a hardware accelerated UI after all this time, and won't be able to without a ground up rewrite. Issues won't be resolved until they're addressed by the general populace.
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Umm, thats great z33, but in this thread we are talking about Android and Android OEM's. Not IOS, not WP7...Android.
To the OP, it is your choice. The same reasons you like touchwiz are the same reasons some of us enjoy AOSP. That is the beauty of Android though, right? The choice.

lowandbehold said:
This whole rant over an alphebetized app drawer? Thats the only arrangement that makes sense anyway? Go ahead buddy, enjoy your bloatware.
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To you it makes sense not to me, there is a reason why pretty much all non-nexus android phones have alot of options in the app drawer. Giving an option does not in any way hamper the experience for those who will stick with the default option.
Ofcourse the nexus is not an iphone or windows phone and you can always install launchers but that completely destroys the "pure google" experience.
And the bloatware you talk about is often quite useful just that it is not always best optimized and can hamper performance but the example I gave the galaxy S2 has one of the best stock launchers on any android phone.
I mean I hardly use much of the google services in a nexus phone except for gmail and search, should I call all the other stuff bloatware as well? Bloatware is subjective.

z33dev33l said:
Blah blah blah, won't run as smooth, blah blah blah, unbearable lag.
We've done this dance before and I don't intend to watch a couple of people who base their points on, "I can't see it, it's not there." attempt to piece together an argument against the fact that android still cannot get a hardware accelerated UI after all this time, and won't be able to without a ground up rewrite. Issues won't be resolved until they're addressed by the general populace.
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WTF has this to do with the topic of this thread? Dude, seriously?

Gambler_3 said:
To you it makes sense not to me, there is a reason why pretty much all non-nexus android phones have alot of options in the app drawer. Giving an option does not in any way hamper the experience for those who will stick with the default option.
Ofcourse the nexus is not an iphone or windows phone and you can always install launchers but that completely destroys the "pure google" experience.
And the bloatware you talk about is often quite useful just that it is not always best optimized and can hamper performance but the example I gave the galaxy S2 has one of the best stock launchers on any android phone.
I mean I hardly use much of the google services in a nexus phone except for gmail and search, should I call all the other stuff bloatware as well? Bloatware is subjective.
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Don't mistake your terms. The GSII does not use a "stock" launcher. It uses a touchwiz launcher. The term "stock" refers to the AOSP launcher. Vanilla is an acquired taste...it is not for everyone.

Gambler_3 said:
but that completely destroys the "pure google" experience.
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Why does a "pure Google" experience matter? Android gives you the possibility that if you don't like a component you replace it. To me that's a lot more important than some supposed "pureness".

Please, do feel free to post something on topic. You're the only one who has yet to thus far. I feel it has everything to do with the thread. Samsung's "bloatware" on the gs2 created the first remotely smooth android experience due to being the first with a stock hardware accelerated browser and a UI that was accelerated in some areas. If the bloatware improves android, the only reason to go stock is the updates.

lowandbehold said:
Don't mistake your terms. The GSII does not use a "stock" launcher. It uses a touchwiz launcher. The term "stock" refers to the AOSP launcher. Vanilla is an acquired taste...it is not for everyone.
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It uses the stock samsung launcher, it is "stock" for that phone. When I talk about stock I mean something that is there out of the box.

z33dev33l said:
Please, do feel free to post something on topic. You're the only one who has yet to thus far.
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My comment about alternative launchers was fully on-topic. Your WP7 stuff wasn't, it was pure flamebait. Well, congratulations, you hooked me.

Gambler_3 said:
It uses the stock samsung launcher, it is "stock" for that phone. When I talk about stock I mean something that is there out of the box.
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So it pains you to put a third party launcher on a nexus, but not to use a third party launcher on your GSII because that's the way it came out of the box?

Gusar321 said:
Why does a "pure Google" experience matter? Android gives you the possibility that if you don't like a component you replace it. To me that's a lot more important than some supposed "pureness".
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It is one of the key selling points of a nexus phone.
And as for custom launchers I would like to point something out. I tried launcher ex on the xperia play but for some reason the app drawer just didnt have nearly the same butter smoothness as the sony launcher which rivals iphone smoothness to me. Whereas on the galaxy S1 I felt the launcher ex improved the smoothness.
Question is will other launchers compromise the smoothness on the nexus? That would be really annoying.

So really, a pure google experience offers nothing remarkable aside from updates, Samsung and other companies create launchers with many benefits.

lowandbehold said:
So it pains you to put a third party launcher on a nexus, but not to use a third party launcher on your GSII because that's the way it came out of the box?
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Well obviously this thread is talking about the out of box experience. Plus there arent that many launchers that work well with ICS right now anyways.
Plus why is samsung a third party when it is the one making the phone?

Touchwiz Apps on AOSP

I know there have been a few people who have asked this question before, but now that we have a few JB builds for TW, is there any chance we might be seeing some ports of TW apps available for AOSP Roms anytime soon?

What does jb touchwiz have to do with it working on AOSP?
Touchwiz apps are dependent on touchwiz itself so you can't
Devs can try but will take alot of coding making it nearly impossible AOSP

GoonAssJuan said:
What does jb touchwiz have to do with it working on AOSP?
Touchwiz apps are dependent on touchwiz itself so you can't
Devs can try but will take alot of coding making it nearly impossible AOSP
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Well originally one of the reasons I heard was because AOSP was all JB builds, and the only TW roms we had were ICS.
I guess this is why I'm not much of a dev, but shouldn't it be as simple as pulling the pictures, strings, etc from framework-res and injecting them directly into the TW apks? Or is there a lot more to it than just that? If it's a matter of being tedious work, if someone could at least point me in the right direction then I'd be glad to give it a go, but if it's because most of the dependencies are scripts/etc that will require major edits in the code, then I guess I see where the problem is and I'll just let this thread die.

noingwhat said:
Well originally one of the reasons I heard was because AOSP was all JB builds, and the only TW roms we had were ICS.
I guess this is why I'm not much of a dev, but shouldn't it be as simple as pulling the pictures, strings, etc from framework-res and injecting them directly into the TW apks? Or is there a lot more to it than just that? If it's a matter of being tedious work, if someone could at least point me in the right direction then I'd be glad to give it a go, but if it's because most of the dependencies are scripts/etc that will require major edits in the code, then I guess I see where the problem is and I'll just let this thread die.
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I'm pretty sure its way more than just pulling the correct files and it has nothing to do with which version of android we are on or were on it is just that the apps are too tightly interwoven into TW that they cannot work without that specific framework. There was a thread not too long ago on Rootz that it was being discussed in, specifically someone wanted the camera ported to AOSP. It has been done before but the dev who did it had to take a lot of touchwiz framework, which required a lot of code hacks to make work, and inject it into a ROM in order for it to work. I think it was done on the Vibrant but I can't remember for sure, if you wanted to read it just click on the Galaxy S3 forum and instead of going to Verizon Development just read the posts below the sub-forums. Really it would be way way easier to just add the features you wanted, kinda like CM did with all their mods like the pop-up texting. For instance if you wanted all the effects of the TW camera you could just figure out how to add them to the AOSP camera and create a flashable mod that will add them. Its kind of like the Atrix circle widgets that will only work if you are running the Atrix launcher because its dependant on the launchers blur framework, although our TW apps aren't that simple cause if they were we would all be running the TW launcher and using the TW camera on AOSP. God that would be nice....
I am no dev though so I may be wrong on some of that, but that's what I've been able to glean from the posts I've seen thus far. I am in the middle of trying to lean java and c/c++ to work on porting a PC game to android so whenever I've learned enough to tweak with this I am going to try my hand at adding some of the TW camera features to AOSP by breaking the TW cam apart and then figuring out how to code the features everyone wants from scratch on AOSP framework. I don't know how long its going to take me to learn enough since I have no one to help me learn this but if you have any ideas on where to start trying to bring them over to AOSP I am all ears cause I have no earthly clue aside from coding from scratch.
Sorry for the long post, every time o post on here I say I'm gonna get to the point and make a short post but I ramble on like a 85 year old woman who lives alone, if you don't count her 73 cats, and won't shut up and let you leave.
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You sure you don't have it backwards op? Now the jb aokp messaging app works on jb touchwiz roms along with the camera.
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shangrila500 said:
I'm pretty sure its way more than just pulling the correct files
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Dang. You seem to know more than I do, so I'll just trust you then. That's not a bad idea trying to take the AOSP apps and adding the features, I'll look into that and see if perhaps I can just make a clone or something.
shangrila500 said:
Sorry for the long post, every time o post on here I say I'm gonna get to the point and make a short post but I ramble on like a 85 year old woman who lives alone, if you don't count her 73 cats, and won't shut up and let you leave.
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Hahaha! I thought if it as more of an in-depth answer, much like how a philosopher would ramble on and on. It was still very educational though. Thank you!

I'm firmly in the AOSP camp but the new multitasking feature coming in the latest TW update is gonna be hard to ignore :-/

Rrrracer said:
I'm firmly in the AOSP camp but the new multitasking feature coming in the latest TW update is gonna be hard to ignore :-/
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Wait, have they ported that to our S3 and I don't know about it yet?!?

That makes me feel a little but better about my long drawn out answer!
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[Q] Roms: What do you lose? What can you replace?

I've been trying to sift through everything that's out there about different roms, but am still unclear on a number of items.
So, I have a choice between touchwiz android 4.1 based roms, or open source roms. Moving away from Touchwiz what is it exactly I would be losing?
Does S-note disappear? S-memo? Is there any app that would replace the s-memo function to double tap the screen and bring up a floating note?
How much of multi window is lost? How much can be replaced? Is cascade view still something that can be added back in?
What s-pen functions are lost? What can be replaced (or improved)?
Overall, if I were to leave Touchwiz entirely, what is lost and what can be replaced with non Samsung counterparts?
Currently, I have Android Revolution HD with Holo Launcher HD on top of that. Any better suggestions? I went with Android Revolution because I was tired of reading and had to start somewhere, so I'm definitely also interested in opinions on a better setup.
Thanks.

mmcnulty said:
I've been trying to sift through everything that's out there about different roms, but am still unclear on a number of items.
So, I have a choice between touchwiz android 4.1 based roms, or open source roms. Moving away from Touchwiz what is it exactly I would be losing?
Does S-note disappear? S-memo? Is there any app that would replace the s-memo function to double tap the screen and bring up a floating note?
How much of multi window is lost? How much can be replaced? Is cascade view still something that can be added back in?
What s-pen functions are lost? What can be replaced (or improved)?
Overall, if I were to leave Touchwiz entirely, what is lost and what can be replaced with non Samsung counterparts?
Currently, I have Android Revolution HD with Holo Launcher HD on top of that. Any better suggestions? I went with Android Revolution because I was tired of reading and had to start somewhere, so I'm definitely also interested in opinions on a better setup.
Thanks.
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Are you just curious about other ROM's or is there something that you need that touch wiz does not offer?
Because as far as I know you will lose S Pen function going to a non-touch wiz ROM and that defeats the reason for owning the Note 10.1.
If you want to see what some of the other ROM's offer Zedomax has a very good web page http://rootgalaxynote.com/. Lots of content for all version of the galaxy note.
He has video reviews of a lot of popular ROM's and you can sign up for his news letters if you like what he has to say, one that I like is "ROM of the week"
If you want to jump right to his Galaxy Note 10.1 ROM's page go here http://rootgalaxynote.com/category/galaxy-note-10-1-roms/
And here is a link to his you tube video page where he has video's on just about everything http://www.youtube.com/user/zedomax Max seems like a very cool guy that love's life and ANDROID
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kkretch said:
Are you just curious about other ROM's or is there something that you need that touch wiz does not offer?
Because as far as I know you will lose S Pen function going to a non-touch wiz ROM and that defeats the reason for owning the Note 10.1.
If you want to see what some of the other ROM's offer Zedomax has a very good web page http://rootgalaxynote.com/. Lots of content for all version of the galaxy note.
He has video reviews of a lot of popular ROM's and you can sign up for his news letters if you like what he has to say, one that I like is "ROM of the week"
If you want to jump right to his Galaxy Note 10.1 ROM's page go here http://rootgalaxynote.com/category/galaxy-note-10-1-roms/
And here is a link to his you tube video page where he has video's on just about everything http://www.youtube.com/user/zedomax Max seems like a very cool guy that love's life and ANDROID
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Thanks, but I've been over all that. I just still feel uncertain about aspects. I see alot of things that are essentially alluded to, but rarely clearly laid out. For instance, in your response, you say "as far as I know you will lose the s-pen function..." Whereas as I was starting to be under the impression that while you would lose many items such as snote, you would still have the spen, and be able to use apps like GMD S PenControl.
I'm not saying what I just wrote is true, but that it is still a point of some confusion, among other things.

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Thanks, but I've been over all that. I just still feel uncertain about aspects. I see alot of things that are essentially alluded to, but rarely clearly laid out. For instance, in your response, you say "as far as I know you will lose the s-pen function..." Whereas as I was starting to be under the impression that while you would lose many items such as snote, you would still have the spen, and be able to use apps like GMD S PenControl.
I'm not saying what I just wrote is true, but that it is still a point of some confusion, among other things.
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That's why I posted the links to rootgalaxynote.com because Max goes over the functions that are gained and lost.
Take the time to download and watch them,..... its very helpful.
Revolt Rom video would be a good place to start http://androidrooted.com/file/GalaxyNote10.1/roms/RevoltJB/RevoltJBROMNote10.1.mp4
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That's why I posted the links to rootgalaxynote.com because Max goes over the functions that are gained and lost.
Take the time to download and watch them,..... its very helpful.
Revolt Rom video would be a good place to start http://androidrooted.com/file/GalaxyNote10.1/roms/RevoltJB/RevoltJBROMNote10.1.mp4
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I watched a bunch of them. On all the AOSP roms I watched him review he just doesn't even mention the s-pen, and in the comments section will just be a few people asking what the deal for the spen is and not having any reply to it.
I agree for the most part, those videos were very helpful. I used one of his videos to root my note. And I'm sure it exists somewhere, but in the time I spent mucking through everything there is, I haven't found where it is clearly laid out what you lose, and what can be done to regain those functions when going to AOSP. I just see bits and pieces buried here and there. I suppose that's what happens when I come this late to it all, the backlog of info is immense, and things covered early on get buried.

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I watched a bunch of them. On all the AOSP roms I watched him review he just doesn't even mention the s-pen, and in the comments section will just be a few people asking what the deal for the spen is and not having any reply to it.
I agree for the most part, those videos were very helpful. I used one of his videos to root my note. And I'm sure it exists somewhere, but in the time I spent mucking through everything there is, I haven't found where it is clearly laid out what you lose, and what can be done to regain those functions when going to AOSP. I just see bits and pieces buried here and there. I suppose that's what happens when I come this late to it all, the backlog of info is immense, and things covered early on get buried.
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That video does talk about s pen function @ about the 2:00 mark.
GMD spen controller ........ you could contact the developer ... here is the video link on you tube for the app in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e3WGO-OZQ2k
Do you know about the 15 minute return policy on the play store?????????
If you are not happy with the app you can get a refund if you un-install it before 15 minutes have passed. https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/134336?hl=en

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That video does talk about s pen function @ about the 2:00 mark.
GMD spen controller ........ you could contact the developer ... here is the video link on you tube for the app in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e3WGO-OZQ2k
Do you know about the 15 minute return policy on the play store?????????
If you are not happy with the app you can get a refund if you un-install it before 15 minutes have passed. https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/134336?hl=en
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I don't mean any of this in a harsh tone, but instead to hopefully get what I'm looking for:
If you would like to answer my questions, great. If you want to keep pointing at things when I tell you I've already seen them, please stop.
The purpose of this question was to determine what would be worth investing time and effort in and to gain some insight from people who have done it themselves already.
Again, if you would like to answer the original questions, I would appreciate that. These have not been what I'm looking for in terms of being a brief concise, summary, and overview
I get that you lose things from going to an AOSP, and that you can replace certain items with apps. My question is about what exactly do you lose, what are the apps that replace it, and how good of a job do they do.

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I don't mean any of this in a harsh tone
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Of coarse you do.
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Why don't you just stick with a rooted stock ROM?

I'd like to be able to keep up with new development regardless of what Samsung does. All the touchwiz roms seem to be limited to 4.1 (unless I've misunderstood). So sticking with touchwiz based roms will could be an issue depending on what Samsung does with updates.
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From what I understand you will loose any apps that require the TC framework - S-Notes don't work and some other apps...
However there are alternative apps like lecture notes that are, apparently supported using the s-pen.... If you read through the CM10 rom threads you might get a better idea, or ask there if it works, you might get a definite answer...
I believe I've read that the s-pen works but I like having my status as "Official" so I can use my Allcast hub... You loose that ability if the status changes....

The only difference between ASOP based and stock/stock based is the TW framework. But most of the features are replaceable.
This is what I have done to make my life easy with ASOP roms
What i miss
A- No replacement yet
- Mutiwindow - No replacement yet
- Lasso screenshot.
- Miss the samsung keyboard - This is the best keyboard for handwriting recognition. No issues with my horrible handwriting. Wish somebody ported it.
B- Alternatives
-Get most of the spen gestures ( except for lasso screen shot) using GMD spen
- S note replacement - use lecture notes and triggered via gmd spen gesture
Rest of the stuff is all there in asop based roms for my use.
Big positives
- Parnoid features.
- Love the status bar at the top option.
-Navigation bar sized down.
-Plenty of small tweaks
-Another big positive is the availability of USB mass storage mode. Very very helpful
Will update this post as more things come to my mind

What about battery life between stock and AOSP roms?

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What about battery life between stock and AOSP roms?
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Not seen any.
I get almost 9-10hrs screen time with both.

Conversion i9505 to i9505G - Discussion/Rant

I'm not smart enough to do it myself.. however, I am still amazed that no one has been able to work out how to convert an i9505 into a i9505G. I know the partition layout is different, and I also know that there are ported 4.3 GE roms available.. BUT all of that aside.. has Samsung won the war here?
Which leads me to a separate subject.. but.. their knox efuse.. while it hasn't been long.. it looks like they have won there as well.
In any case.. I'm more interested in the conversion to i9505G. Does anyone know more than I do about the status or possibility of ever being able to convert a i9505 to a i9505G?

Well.. This is not as easy as you may think.
Need someone who has both I9505 and I9505G. Also need special connection to I9505 like JTAG to get direct access to flash. Then using JTAG try to dump whole flash from I9505G and upload it to I9505. And then depend on success and whole result, procedure can be simplified.
But JTAG is required at experiment stage if you are not so rich who can afford to buy tens (if not hundred) I9505 while experimenting

A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .

Aerys said:
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
Samsung secured the bootloader very agressively .
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That's why i've mentioned JTAG. Google JTAG if you wanna know what is that.

Aerys said:
A full conversion (think about bootloader,radio) is not possible.
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People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.

xyzulu said:
People said a reset of the flash counter was not possible.. @Chainfire was able to take care of that just fine..
I doubt it's impossible.. but I wonder how many people have even tried, or if there are even more than a handful of people with the skills needed to make this happen.
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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.

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I tried everything except for jtag + bootloader exploit. Even hardbricked my S4 1 time.
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Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?

Noorish said:
Thats very sad to hear, would this mean we will never have a full ported/working edition of google on our phones? shall I sell my phone and move to a nexus? or simply buy the original i9505G?
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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I sold my AT&T SGH-I337 GS4 and got an I-9505G. Best decision I ever made.
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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms

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Why? Now you cant ever run TW roms now... But on the SGH 1337 you can run both roms
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I couldn't care less about running ROMs. I unlocked the bootloader but otherwise I leave my devices stock and unrooted. I know how to root and install ROMs but once I knew how, my curiosity was satisfied.
Honestly, I have had Nexus devices my entire Android life. I decided to branch out and try a GS4 with Touchwiz. I really liked my I337, so much in fact, that I also ended up purchasing a Galaxy Note 8.0 as well. There are definitely things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see Google add to the stock user experience. I'm referring to things like air view and having separate wallpapers for the home and lock screens. Alas, though, when you've used stock Android as much as I have, it's hard to use anything else.
The only thing I truly miss about Touchwiz is the camera app. The camera was simply amazing. The other things that are important to me, namely the IR blaster and the S-View cover functionality, both work flawlessly on the I9505G.
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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android. And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
I would think about I9505G over I9505 only as device with bigger user storage running custom TW ROM, but it looks like not much success here.
From other side, you can buy 32GB version of I9505 and don't think about 16GB-only I9505G.
But hey, there are SHV-E330 and GT-I9506 already

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What i dislike most in stock Android is halo theme. It's really ugly. Micro check-boxes. Ugly seek-bars. Alert dialogs are too flat and sketchy. Halo theme looks more like concept than theme for daily usage.
TouchWiz theme was odd originally in time of SGS2, but it was getting better and better. On SGS4 it's nearly perfect. May be some elements like ViewPager and title bar need to reworks somehow. But overall it's way better theme than Halo. Also, there are many useful addons in TW ROM like quick settings panel, nice looking lock screen with quick launch shortcuts on the bottom, and other small tweaks making TW ROM much more useful than naked Android.
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You mean Holo I believe. That's why I use stock Android. TW with its different colors, big buttons that are not even separated from others and mixed styles in applications is really crazy and a pain to use. For people that like to use a phone without distractions it's a plain and simple fail.
Nice to have options as we're all not the same, you keep your TW phone, I will keep my stock Android one.
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And it's easier to remove unneeded apps/services/tweaks from TW ROM than add them into naked Android.
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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!

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I was taking you seriously until I read this. You think that removing system applications is easier than going to Google Play and download one? Yeah, sure!
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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
If you think, it's not serious, then hold on and think first. May be other person, who is talking about this, knows something you don't know.
I'm not even talking about how serious people who are buying non-Nexus device and then whining about CM/AOSP in half of topics.

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Yeah.. It looks like your are really serious talking about replace TW features by 3rd party apps
Which app can replace lockscreen? None. It's impossible by android design. Only can mask some app as lockscreen which is completely different.
Having quick settings panel in on-going notification area? Phh..
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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
In any case what you might consider essential I might consider a waste of resources.
That was the point of my post. That's why Android is a success.
And if you don't like to read people talking about changing non-Google devices you might be better off XDA.
XDA Developers was founded for developers by developers. It is now a valuable resource for people who want to make the most of their mobile devices, from customizing the look and feel to adding new functionality.

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You're considering rooting a device to freeze/remove system applications. I was talking about simply adding applications to a stock Android from Google Play. I fail to see the former being easier.
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If you are able to create custom ROM then removing unneeded apps (and even editing framework to cleanup from some useless features) is much easier than add absent functionality.
I suppose, we are on XDA, i.e. developer's forum right? If you are talking from regular user point of view who usually don't know what is "root", then it's out of scope of this board. Just buy Nexus device and then you are set.
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And here the "impossible":
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
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I've told you already: there is no way to truly replace lockscreen by any other application. Lockscreen is a part of framework, not APK. I'm using android devices not the first year, and believe me, i've tried these apps long long time ago. These apps mimic lockscreen using some security holes in OS, but they are not replacing lockscreen. Actually, device remains unlocked all the time. Also there are many bugs and glitches because such apps trying to suppress original lockscreen with different kinds of success/fail.
As for modifying device: there are many ways to modify and it's not exactly by installing CM/AOSP. You can check my topics to see that i'm not just user.
XDA has been created long time before CM/AOSP and believe me there are many other good ways to modify the device. CM/AOSP have their own dedicated forums and repositories which should suit your needs better than XDA (if you want to compete in pointing directions to others).
P.S.: look into I9505G forum to see how users begging to add samsung's standard camera app which doesn't work on non-TW ROM.
Suggest them to install some app from Google play
The same can tell about video player and amount of video and audio codecs integrated into TW ROM. On TW ROM i can use nearly any music player and able to playback almost any audio and video. On GE ROM you have to find special audio player having support of some specific format, and then try to get used to its bugs without choice to switch to another player. With video player it's even worse...
Also, CM/AOSP usually don't have tight integration when it comes to Hardware 3D acceleration. Some selected devices (usually Nexus and GE devices) have good 3D support, but only some.
The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.

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The truth is: Some people wanna to install CM/AOSP and then they realize they miss many useful (usually not noticeable when it presents) features. That's why custom TW ROMs are present and have a lot or users.
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I never denied that TW based ROMs have value for some people, just that as well stock Android is much more attractive for others. If not we wouldn't be discussing this and you wouldn't see the kind of activity we see in this forum.
And I still disagree on the "easier" issue but I fail to see any benefit in continuing the discussion.

got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...

spilksch said:
got a weird question... where's the am/pm display on the 12 hour clock for the i9505G rom that i installed? hmm...
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Look at the window?

So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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andreqm said:
So this really isn't going anywhere?
HTC One has just been fully converted into the GPe.
I was really hoping there was some kind of solution for this conversion
Anyway, thanks for all the hard work guys!
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Why would you need to ? You have CM/TW/GE to choose from when using the i9505 partition layout. Took us a couple of hours to get KitKat after the GE got it (broodplank delivered AOSP 4.4 even earlier).