[Q] To change ROMs or not - Asus Transformer TF700

So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.

DarqAnshin said:
So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.
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I personally like Cromi/Cromi-X. I used Cyano for a while but settled on Cromi for the speed. Cromi is based on stock and optimized for speed, so if don't care about additional customization, I would say go for Cromi. But you will lose your warranty if you unlock the tablet to install custom ROMs. Not sure about stability/battery life improvements but I've never had issues with either on Cromi.

DarqAnshin said:
So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.
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This is my two cents. Any custom rom and kernel that you pick will be faster than the stock. I am using Cromi X 4.7 and Hund 3.3.2. I believe that they are very major and stable. The battery life is depended on how you set your device up. Wifi and screen brightness are the most battery consumptions of all. You can go to the wifi advance setting and set it to never use wifi during sleep. You can lower the brightness of your screen unless you are outside to use the ips+. You can also set your turn off screen to one or two minutes before it goes to sleep. With all of that can give more battery back. You will be happy with Crmi X with your choice of kernel..

Drenus said:
I personally like Cromi/Cromi-X. I used Cyano for a while but settled on Cromi for the speed. Cromi is based on stock and optimized for speed, so if don't care about additional customization, I would say go for Cromi. But you will lose your warranty if you unlock the tablet to install custom ROMs. Not sure about stability/battery life improvements but I've never had issues with either on Cromi.
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LetMeKnow said:
This is my two cents. Any custom rom and kernel that you pick will be faster than the stock. I am using Cromi X 4.7 and Hund 3.3.2. I believe that they are very major and stable. The battery life is depended on how you set your device up. Wifi and screen brightness are the most battery consumptions of all. You can go to the wifi advance setting and set it to never use wifi during sleep. You can lower the brightness of your screen unless you are outside to use the ips+. You can also set your turn off screen to one or two minutes before it goes to sleep. With all of that can give more battery back. You will be happy with Crmi X with your choice of kernel..
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I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.

DarqAnshin said:
I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.
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Welcome aboard - enjoy! :good: Just preparing CROMi-X 5.0 RC1 now

DarqAnshin said:
I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.
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sbdags said:
Welcome aboard - enjoy! :good: Just preparing CROMi-X 5.0 RC1 now
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I think when the Cromi X 5.0 RC1, you should give it a shot. I think that it will be even better than the previous versions..
Thanks Sbdags for your hard works.. :good:

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Is this tablet really this slow and buggy? Worth rooting?

I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
My experience is that it is NOT slow and buggy.
I could compare it with an iPad3 last week and I think they are very close.
You can't compare it with a note because due to the much higher resolution the gpu has to do so much more computing. That is why the nexus7 is faster than the tf700 due to it's smaller screen AND resolution
hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled. My table is very fast. Just remember before you flash a new rom, just do factory reset(data wipe 3 times). Also root is good (allow you to install rooted app like Titinium backup, SetcPU etc..), but don't unlock unless absolutely necessary (void your warranty), or you have time or like to play with custom rom.
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
hobs0n said:
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Yes, all games, videos, pictures, and documents and apps are function normally. There are 3 most popular office apps:
1. Documents to go (this can view google docs also. Paid version only)
2. Kingsoft office
3. Polaris office (currently polaris has a bug with fonts).
My stock browser can view google docs fine. I think stock browser is the best in my opinion (have tried boat, chrome, mozilla etc...)
hobs0n said:
My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
zenaxe said:
The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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Well,
I guess I'm going to do the downgrade to ICS .30\root\then try the rootkreeper deal back to Belly Jean.
I really don't want to go thru all this, but if I want to keep chipping away trying to find a better Android experience then so be it.
Pain in the ass...
Thanx for the info! That was my biggest thoughts about the Infinity, "is the RAM enough?" and it isnt but then Ill just have to multitask less and try to tweak it. And perhaps dont install multipicture wallpaper.. but thats one of the things that I love about my Note
buhoitr: thanx for the suggestions, Ill try them and see
What rom would you suggest for getting the most out of the Infinity?
zenaxe said:
The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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Hmmm, I've found mine to be quick and virtually bug-free, but then again I didn't buy it as a toy.
A little tweaking and I wouldn't call it slow. Even stock its a solid piece of equipment.
Apply data2sd mod built for CleanROM 2 after installing the ROM. You'll need a fast sd card.
Research the threads. The blob for data2sd for that ROM was just posted today.
look at my I/O!
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I own both the Infinity and the Acer a700 and after the a700 got JB earlier today, I will say that the Infinity lags more than the a700 (and I was very happy with the Infinity). Colour me shocked.
The only time I really ever experience any lag or sluggishness is when browsing. I will be rooting once there is a method discovered for Jelly Bean on the Infinity. I'd really like to give browser2ram a shot. I've heard it does wonders for browsing.
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Better than ever
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
ExjeetzZ said:
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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Im rooted and installed CleanRom2.2 this morning and it is indeed faster and smoother i will try the tweaking you guys suggested later. It still lagged when i downloaded my spotify playlists while i was downloading youtube movies tho
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
Will i unlock? No...
Thats OK said:
I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
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If it was really laggy and something that i can't deal with i would unlock but since it feels flawless, I might stay. I don't give a crap about their warranty but i do care for my device (brick)
ExjeetzZ said:
I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever!
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It's the total opposite for me. ICS was fast and virtually lag-free. The latest updates to Jellybean my Infinity lags like nobody's business. Very disappointing. Looks like root'n'rom time.
buhohitr said:
I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled.
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What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
squigs said:
What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
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If I may attempt an answer,
I believe that's a reference to the "force gpu rendering" in settings under developer options.
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Your Preffered ROM? (Dec 2012)

(Nov 2012)
We have been very fortunate with a recent influx of ported ROMs and modified experiemental Kernels and want to gather people's opinions on what the best Daily Driver ROM/kernel combo is these days.
What says you!
Well when my DS died a month or so ago I was bouncing between CM 9.1 with the experimental kernel, paranoid android, and virtuous infinity (1.3.5 beta 1). Each had its own merits... cm9 is on there right now but the screen doesn't work lol.
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I am a huge fan of MikTouch and always keep a android just in case. It is probably the most stable of any Rom available.
This week I finally tried the new AOKP from SilverL. I haven't tried an AOKP before. I love all the tweaks in Rom control. It will probably be my daily driver for awhile.
Just try a few and see what you like. Good luck.
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CM 9.1. Running the R3 ROM with the R8 kernel and everything's working smooth.
I second npiper. I tried a couple of the ICS roms and enjoyed them, but after a week or two I couldn't deal with the little issues any longer and went back to the rom that hasn't let me down, MikTouch. I can't remember ever having an app fc on me with it.
MAN! That's like taking a police officer into a Dunkin Donuts and asking him to pick one favorite! :laugh:
Ziida said:
We have been very fortunate with a recent influx of ported ROMs and modified experiemental Kernels and want to gather people's opinions on what the best Daily Driver ROM/kernel combo is these days.
What says you!
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I try all of the ROMs that come out. But I always end up back on the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is super stable and everything works without having to sacrifice virgins or do anything else extraordinary.
Fuzi0719 said:
I try all of the ROMs that come out. But I always end up back on the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is super stable and everything works without having to sacrifice virgins or do anything else extraordinary.
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Lol.
Interesting, I never knew Miktouch was so preferred around here. I've always skipped over it because it was Sense and I've never been happy with stock sense. I'll maybe give it a shot this week. It's GB not ICS, right?
I'm also going to test out CM9.1 r8 and see how I fair with it compared to my (somewhat) trusty CM9 Alpha5
Paranoid Android is a very fun idea and I love having it as an option, but I'm not sure a screen our size really calls for it
Ziida said:
Lol.
Interesting, I never knew Miktouch was so preferred around here. I've always skipped over it because it was Sense and I've never been happy with stock sense. I'll maybe give it a shot this week. It's GB not ICS, right?
I'm also going to test out CM9.1 r8 and see how I fair with it compared to my (somewhat) trusty CM9 Alpha5
Paranoid Android is a very fun idea and I love having it as an option, but I'm not sure a screen our size really calls for it
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I'm testing out the new CM9.1r8, as well. Miktouch is indeed GB. With it I'm regularly getting 30+ hours of use with my 1900mAh battery. I'm anxious to see what I get with the new CM9.1r8. I tested the earlier r5 build of CM9.1 and just wasn't totally happy with it so I went back to Miktouch. I love the look of the ICS/Sense4 and Sense 3.6 ROMS, but none of them have the stability and battery life I need, so I end up back at Miktouch.
30+ hours sounds fantastic, but for reference how long would you say you manage to get on a CM9 ROM?
Ziida said:
30+ hours sounds fantastic, but for reference how long would you say you manage to get on a CM9 ROM?
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Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Im on a CM9.1 Rom So far with battery fixes and such. Really enjoying it.
strapped365 said:
Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Yeah what he said. There are users that will claim to have amazing battery life and then post screen shots of Display only accounting for like 30% of the usage.. When that's the case then you know the thing isn't on that much because it really is display that uses the most juice if you're using your phone heavy.
That said, I've had the Mugen 3600 since the day it was released and I can always get through a whole day without any worry even if i'm talking for hours, playing games whatever surfing the net and checking XDA regularly etc.. Sometimes I put the smaller batteries back in because the phone looks sharp stock but then I find myself concerned about being near a charger and I hate that feeling. I just want to plug it in while I'm sleeping and use it at will the rest of the time and with the "big boy" I totally can.
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strapped365 said:
Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Yea I get that, I meant to pose that question to him specifically to see how his battery life scales with the two different roms since the user is pretty much invariably the biggest drain on battery.
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Yea I get that, I meant to pose that question to him specifically to see how his battery life scales with the two different roms since the user is pretty much invariably the biggest drain on battery.
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I just loaded this CM9.1r8 ROM yesterday, so don't have any complete sense of battery life, yet. Though so far it is looking very good. I get such battery life on my phone because when I am home it does sit with the screen off most of the time. At home it connects via Bluetooth to my Panasonic cordless phones and Wi-Fi to my home network. All the voice calls I make or receive go through those cordless phones to the cellphone (my MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or other mobile). I do some texting on the phone, and of course when I go out of the apartment it isn't connected to Bluetooth. When I'm out I will use maps sometimes, apps like Friendstream and Foursquare. Oh, and when out I am almost always listening to music either stored on my SD card or streaming from Google Music or the FM radio. So, not a "hardcore" user, I guess, but I do what I need. Miktouch recently got me over 2 days of use on a single charge, but more typical is about 28-30 hours. The new CM9.1r8 is looking to behave similarly so far.
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I just loaded this CM9.1r8 ROM yesterday, so don't have any complete sense of battery life, yet. Though so far it is looking very good. I get such battery life on my phone because when I am home it does sit with the screen off most of the time. At home it connects via Bluetooth to my Panasonic cordless phones and Wi-Fi to my home network. All the voice calls I make or receive go through those cordless phones to the cellphone (my MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or other mobile). I do some texting on the phone, and of course when I go out of the apartment it isn't connected to Bluetooth. When I'm out I will use maps sometimes, apps like Friendstream and Foursquare. Oh, and when out I am almost always listening to music either stored on my SD card or streaming from Google Music or the FM radio. So, not a "hardcore" user, I guess, but I do what I need. Miktouch recently got me over 2 days of use on a single charge, but more typical is about 28-30 hours. The new CM9.1r8 is looking to behave similarly so far.
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I got this build before it was posted from the dev, so I have a bit more experience on the battery. I ran it for 24 hours straight without recharging, got in 2.5 hours of web browsing, another hour of wifi calling in, and the batter was at 15% when I woke up this morning (Anker 1900 mAh). Everything I've tested has worked fine. The one gotcha on the battery may be if you boot into it initially--I noticed that on the first reboot, it wasn't going into deep sleep, but after I rebooted a second time, it was clean. It may require a full battery pull for the hardware to completely reset or something. Otherwise, things are great!
CM9.1 r7 kernel and ROM. Flashing to r8 soon. My only gripe with this ROM is the camera is a little lacking, but I'd take stock AOSP over the sense camera any day. If I were to use GB though, I'd go with one of Undead9k's "senseless" ROMs.
Well this might seem obvious to most in this community, but since I spent as long as I did not updating maybe there are others out there as well...
I have found no reason to *not* update from cm9 to cm9.1 r8.
Does anyone have any opinions of our new AOKP vs CM9.1 roms?
Actually I'm using CM9.1r8 ROM, too. Although it's still soon to throw a veredict, by the moment I'm getting great battery life, and it works perfect and smooth.
The only feature I still miss is the alt/caps led/status bar indicator ;(
DEC 2012
With CM10 still in alpha, CM9 with R9 kernels, and AOKP, PACman, Paranoid Android and MIUI all updating what's your new preffered daily driver ROM?
I'll be testing CM10 tonight since my CM9 flash has recently started having problems connecting to the network for a short time every other week.

[Q] Should I keep PACman ROM or move onto Viper?

First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
EDIT 1: I installed Viper, it ran smoothly, but what I like to call "self plug-ins" are way to much from Venom. They have to many Venom/Viper apps and they are probably useless. So uninstalled and hopefully I'll research more of the tweaks for a better experience next time.
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First off, I apologize if this the wrong spot. First thread and this category seemed appropriate. Now the main question. My PACman ROM I really love but the battery life is horrendous! I really like the ultimate customization but honestly the battery life is irritating. Now I want to switch to Viper. I was also planning to flash a custom kernel. ElementalX I believe it's called. Now I need help if I should switch. Many thanks!
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I haven't used PACman, but I'm a huge fan of CM10 (not 10.1 for me yet).
I used ViperOneS for about 7 months and enjoyed it, but it definitely still felt a little bloated (and that was using a custom kernel with the system overclocked and undervolted). The customization was nice, it had few bugs, and the sense camera is hard to beat. I have limited experience with Viper 2.0 - so someone else may need to chime in about it specifically. I used the de-Sensed installer and it still felt slightly bloated.
CM10 is a much cleaner experience in my opinion. Even without a custom kernel that has the chip overclocked, the ROM runs much more smoothly. It is nearly a perfect ROM except for the camera. It's not bad, but it's definitely nowhere near as good as Sense. I would also say that CM is more stable than Viper, but only slightly so.
It really comes down to what you value.
@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it
Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.
Boes40 said:
@ OP, what do you expect from this question? There are people who say Viper is great (including me) and others who will say it isn't worth it to switch. Just try and flash and see for yourself to get the best inside info about this ROM. After that you can tell us if it was worth it
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I'm just looking for a better battery life, smooth performance, and a just an overall easy experience. I'm used to Jellybean ROMs the most, so sense type are kinda new for me.
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Nit trying to be rude or something, but if you got a battery drain problem, then its probably not the ROM(although I use JellyBAM - not from xda), but something else. I used pacman in the past, and it was similar to Stoxk sense, or maybe a little better. Try a clean install, and try not to restore any settings. If battery life still isn't right, then its probably an app behaving poorly.
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I've done so many reinstalls. Maybe in the past week I'll say 10. I played the pretty CPU and GPU demanding game ago. But I haven't played in awhile and it's not running.

Why is there so much hype towards ROMs and kernels?

Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
I think if varies for the phones and locations, but I was getting some pretty beastly battery life, smooth/fast experience with vanir and Franco. For some reason I just didn't like stock and was not getting as great battery life. I've tried many things and some are good, but there are better (to me at least). I'm just running Lollipop now and can't seem to go back to kk.
It all comes down to ones preference really...
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wait , isn't cm12 for OPO currently a little unstable? i really wanted to give it a shot but i fear that it is too unstable for a daily driver
Working fine for me; I don't think it is to the point where it can't be a daily driver. I'm really liking it so far, the Lollipop experience feels really nice and smooth.
Check comments from others on the threads to see the kind of issues they're having. Devs are doing daily builds so as days pass it gets better and better.
Sent from bacon with lollipop!
tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
and i decided to root my phone and try some custom ROMs and kernels since they're so popular , so last month i rooted my phone and take a spin on those famous ROMs and kernels ( partly is also the touchscreen issue and random reboots are driving me nuts ) i won't specify what ROM or kernel i am using though
first impressions when i had a new ROMs is that , there's nothing much that is different i though things would be faster snappier with a new kernel built in but ...my OPO did not , my phone did get more stable but it did suffer from multigesture issue once and force rebooted 3 times in the span of 1 month , but the biggest issue is that my phone keeps getting systemui has stopped working , multitasking button gets bugged one too many times , wallpapers constantly missing when i unlock my phone and animations are very clunky
so yesterday i decided to go back to stock just to remind myself how stock feels , using NANdroid backup i restored everything and...
stock 44s feels so much better compared to custom ROMs which begs the question
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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Sounds like you didn't do any kernel configurations at all to experience changes.
On AK, with Synapse and UKM, you can change numerical values to configure how the phone handles processes. Default kernel settings aren't optimum for every phone.
My settings consist of: slim (300-2457), CPU boost driver (10ms, 1574MHz, 30ms, 1190MHz), CPU Volt (-35mV), I/O sio @ 1536KB read ahead, drop caches, laptop mode, Vibrator at 25, Fast Charge at 1500mA, C1 (Retention) disabled, 120 second Wifi Scan interval.
With those settings, it makes a HUGE difference compared to stock, as well as fix bugs (screen artifact/tearing) before they were fixed on the latest firmware, and increases battery life by 1.5 times stock.
tohno said:
Hi all
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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I have the same questioning but without any problems that you had/have/ My phone works perfectly ( crossing fingers ) and i've had it since July. I always used to ROM my S3-S4-S5 to get a new feel of the phone, but with the Oppo i don't see the reason to. Maybe it's because CM is pretty near pure stock Android, and that's what we get when we switch ROMs on big brands.
tohno said:
Hi all
i had my OPO for 2 months now
why do people deviate from stock ROM on OPO ? stock cm is pretty sweet , I understand rooting the phone to get xposed etc but custom ROMs just don't feel right on the OPO ...so is it just me ?
still props to all the devs out there , no offense just my 2 cents
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OP, it is not just you. Folks who mess about with custom ROMS, as the other posts here share, do so because they can customize the total phone experience, leaving things off, and putting other items on, to their liking. Giving that the background OS is stable, and the apps a person selects are stable, there should be little to no difference in 'performance', overall, due to the apps. However, you may get performance differences because there are less TSR's currently running in your system, so more memory is available, etc, which can make mainline apps run faster.
So many reasons to do custom apps.
As you said, and I agree, CM is a nice, generally smooth OS/ROM. I am coming from an LG G3, which I like very much, but to customize (remove all the junk), and fine tune (remove Google calling home = less battery live, etc), it take's some time to setup those conditions. With CM, most of the junk is not present at the onset (AT&T largely). Much more clean. I would like Google to be disassociated from CM completely, so that it is an add on only, providing better control of the base CM. I would like this in an official CM ROM/official variation.
That is the reason I have/am switching over to the OnePlus. I have tried a few custom ROMs as well, and the stock CM seems to have the best stability, reliability and consistency, to date. I suspect that will change when a large update comes out, such as L, and a great amount of energy goes into that development. I just changed from 38 to 44 last night on three OPO's. It took 5 minutes, or so, a piece, and all of the data/previous apps, setup etc, stayed with the updates, making for an all too easy update.
Awesome. Next will be "L". I will wait for the CM official, as that will likely be the most stable, as I suspect it is getting the most attention from the CM team, at this time. CM is a pretty nice OS.

[Q] Need advice : Stock & custom I/O performance

Hi,
I played with many Nexus S. I had one when they were new and my memory is that it was a good phone. Since then, I've played with 3-4 of them and every time, they were so slow, having lags of almost a minute on many touch of button. I've used Quadrant benchmark and everytime, I see that everything is normal except I/O. I've read many thread about that and they suggest that it has something to do with kernel. (most of the phone I used were using CyanogenMod, an OS I used since the beginning with almost all my phones (I have had a lot of them and always play with alternatives OS)).
My current phone died and I took back an old Nexus S and it is so frustrating to experience all those lags. I returned it back to Stock (official 4.1.2 image from google). I only flashed a recovery and rooted the phone after. What was my surprise to experience major lags and run the benchmark and see that I/O performance are still so low.
How are you living with your phone ? Is it fixable ?
Thanks to read me.
Looking forward to read from you guys
Installed apps?
ekerazha said:
Installed apps?
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Stock 4.1.2 + recovery (TWRP) + superuser
No application installed
Try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
mik- said:
Hi,
I played with many Nexus S. I had one when they were new and my memory is that it was a good phone. Since then, I've played with 3-4 of them and every time, they were so slow, having lags of almost a minute on many touch of button. I've used Quadrant benchmark and everytime, I see that everything is normal except I/O. I've read many thread about that and they suggest that it has something to do with kernel. (most of the phone I used were using CyanogenMod, an OS I used since the beginning with almost all my phones (I have had a lot of them and always play with alternatives OS)).
My current phone died and I took back an old Nexus S and it is so frustrating to experience all those lags. I returned it back to Stock (official 4.1.2 image from google). I only flashed a recovery and rooted the phone after. What was my surprise to experience major lags and run the benchmark and see that I/O performance are still so low.
How are you living with your phone ? Is it fixable ?
Thanks to read me.
Looking forward to read from you guys
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Hi There
If you are a die heart fan of Nexus S you must know that in Nexus S battery sucks.
So I can suggest you to run your device on Stock GB or ICS as i runs quite fast on them and gives a descent battery backup.
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mik- said:
Hi,
I played with many Nexus S. I had one when they were new and my memory is that it was a good phone. Since then, I've played with 3-4 of them and every time, they were so slow, having lags of almost a minute on many touch of button. I've used Quadrant benchmark and everytime, I see that everything is normal except I/O. I've read many thread about that and they suggest that it has something to do with kernel. (most of the phone I used were using CyanogenMod, an OS I used since the beginning with almost all my phones (I have had a lot of them and always play with alternatives OS)).
My current phone died and I took back an old Nexus S and it is so frustrating to experience all those lags. I returned it back to Stock (official 4.1.2 image from google). I only flashed a recovery and rooted the phone after. What was my surprise to experience major lags and run the benchmark and see that I/O performance are still so low.
How are you living with your phone ? Is it fixable ?
Thanks to read me.
Looking forward to read from you guys
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If you are a fan of Nexus S you must know that Battery in Nexus S sucks. So i must prefer to Get back to Stock GB or ICS on Nexus S . It runs a bit fast on them and battery life is also maximized.
Otherwise root your device and install any custom rom Of GB r ICS with a bit good tweaks so that you dont feel outdated.
And then find a good kernel for Nexus S which maximizes its Battery Life.
Goood Luck..!

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