I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
My experience is that it is NOT slow and buggy.
I could compare it with an iPad3 last week and I think they are very close.
You can't compare it with a note because due to the much higher resolution the gpu has to do so much more computing. That is why the nexus7 is faster than the tf700 due to it's smaller screen AND resolution
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled. My table is very fast. Just remember before you flash a new rom, just do factory reset(data wipe 3 times). Also root is good (allow you to install rooted app like Titinium backup, SetcPU etc..), but don't unlock unless absolutely necessary (void your warranty), or you have time or like to play with custom rom.
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Yes, all games, videos, pictures, and documents and apps are function normally. There are 3 most popular office apps:
1. Documents to go (this can view google docs also. Paid version only)
2. Kingsoft office
3. Polaris office (currently polaris has a bug with fonts).
My stock browser can view google docs fine. I think stock browser is the best in my opinion (have tried boat, chrome, mozilla etc...)
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My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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Well,
I guess I'm going to do the downgrade to ICS .30\root\then try the rootkreeper deal back to Belly Jean.
I really don't want to go thru all this, but if I want to keep chipping away trying to find a better Android experience then so be it.
Pain in the ass...
Thanx for the info! That was my biggest thoughts about the Infinity, "is the RAM enough?" and it isnt but then Ill just have to multitask less and try to tweak it. And perhaps dont install multipicture wallpaper.. but thats one of the things that I love about my Note
buhoitr: thanx for the suggestions, Ill try them and see
What rom would you suggest for getting the most out of the Infinity?
zenaxe said:
The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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Hmmm, I've found mine to be quick and virtually bug-free, but then again I didn't buy it as a toy.
A little tweaking and I wouldn't call it slow. Even stock its a solid piece of equipment.
Apply data2sd mod built for CleanROM 2 after installing the ROM. You'll need a fast sd card.
Research the threads. The blob for data2sd for that ROM was just posted today.
look at my I/O!
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I own both the Infinity and the Acer a700 and after the a700 got JB earlier today, I will say that the Infinity lags more than the a700 (and I was very happy with the Infinity). Colour me shocked.
The only time I really ever experience any lag or sluggishness is when browsing. I will be rooting once there is a method discovered for Jelly Bean on the Infinity. I'd really like to give browser2ram a shot. I've heard it does wonders for browsing.
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Better than ever
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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Im rooted and installed CleanRom2.2 this morning and it is indeed faster and smoother i will try the tweaking you guys suggested later. It still lagged when i downloaded my spotify playlists while i was downloading youtube movies tho
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
Will i unlock? No...
Thats OK said:
I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
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If it was really laggy and something that i can't deal with i would unlock but since it feels flawless, I might stay. I don't give a crap about their warranty but i do care for my device (brick)
ExjeetzZ said:
I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever!
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It's the total opposite for me. ICS was fast and virtually lag-free. The latest updates to Jellybean my Infinity lags like nobody's business. Very disappointing. Looks like root'n'rom time.
buhohitr said:
I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled.
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What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
squigs said:
What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
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If I may attempt an answer,
I believe that's a reference to the "force gpu rendering" in settings under developer options.
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I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
I bought my tf300 yesterday, and couldn't be happier. I unlocked it and installed aokp this morning and things have been great. Haven't noticed any lag viewing webpages, youtube, music etc. I've been very happy with this tabIet, as it's my first one. I believe aokp allows you to overclock to 1.5ghz (obviously it drains batteries a little bit more) but even on the stock asus rom, i encountered no lag whatsoever.
as shocking as it might be to know..i have not yet rooted the tf300t. i've been using it for over a month now..i got it the week that it came out..and i've happy with it. every once in a while you will see a "freeze" for now reason. It does seem to freeze more on startup because it is trying to do several things at once (like update gmail, corporate account, and sync up other things). But after that it is really smooth.
I was talking to another friend about this and he managed to hunt down someone else having similar issues to me and Asus declared their product to be defective, issue a new one, which works "flawlessly". I guess it's back to Office Depot I go. I refuse to let Apple win.
Hopefully you get a working one, I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. The aokp rom is quick and fun to use, and I refuse to ever own apple products. Go android!
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago , and it freezes one or 2 times , but in general works great , didn't unlocked and changed to custom roms yet but will in future , but for now i am loving it
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Have it now for 6+ weeks. Stock/rooted. Works like a champ. Good tablet apps are the issue, not the tab. No way you should have the issues you do.
Still Charged Up
Nice performance
Got mine 3 weeks before. unlocked it and rooted from the second day, i am really happy from the latest update the us.30 for me. i dont experience any lag or freezes or force closes at all. The performance is better but it always depends on the owner.
I found useful to install an app called autostarts (needs root) that prevents apps from being loaded at any time u use your device.
For example i cant understand why google play store must open when i remove an application. With this program i prevent things from loading at startup of the device, so i have a quicker startup time and i know that no other apps are in use when i dont need them and only working is the app that i use.
U can see what apps are runnig at any time with a task manager or something relevant.
So as i say before the performance of a device depends also on the owner.
I bought 2 tf300's, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Mine has Cyanogenmod 9 on it, hers has stock (.30 firmware).
I will say that mine is noticeably faster, Chrome doesn't lag hardly ever, hers freezes up a lot more.
You should be careful about some apps too, Facebook in my opinion is the worst. That app will cause your phone/tablet to lag like nothing else, as soon as I uninstalled Facebook on my girlfriends tablet it was like a brand new machine (though still not quite as fast as CM 9)
strakajagr said:
I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
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I was having this issue also and was getting pretty fed up with it.
However, after doing a reset on the device it works perfectly now. Resetting the device formats the primary partition and takes it back to stock (keeping firmware updates). You can get to this option by turning the device off and holding the volume down button when powering on and it should be the second option. This stopped the force closes and lags with my TF300T
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Charle692 said:
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Yeah. Seanz' Hydro rom makes stock appear laggy and unresponsive my device was running slow before the. 30 firmware update.
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The lag is mostly happening due to the I/O scheduler in the kernel. We probably won't see the true performance on this tablet until we get a custom kernel. The source is on ASUS's website but no kernel hackers have this device. The lag only shows when mounting and un mounting SD cards, writing to SD cards/NAND and downloading/updating Play store apps.
The only fix I know so far is to go find a SIO scheduler from the Transformer Prime's forum and install it. I did that and the lag went away but looking at benchmarks for I/O schedulers (noop vs SIO), noop has lag but higher scores and SIO has very little or no lag with lower scores.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27948613
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I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
GigaSPX said:
I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
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Personally I think CROMI with browser2ram resolves most io problems.
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If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late?
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No, you can switch to it whenever you want in the future without any restrictions.
Sbdags and _that are much, much more knowledgeable than teeny me, but I also think CROMI currently solves most problems that the 700 had at launch time. Some I/O issue will remain under the surface, but it's been fair sailing so far for me (admittedly, I did not have that much issue with it anyway ).
I tried getting data2sd to work -- curiosity finally won over cautiousness -- but I could not, for the love of all that is holy, get it work properly, at least not in the first six tries. Minitool ruined my microSD card, although Gparted was able to recover it. <phew> I then proceeded to install data2sd. Although apparently correctly installed, I noticed very little benefit.
As I said, it could be speculated that my microSD card is screwy (I'm shopping around for a new Sandisk 32 or 64 GB Class 10), and I would have nothing to base a denial on. A better card might have shown a tremendous degree of improvement, making me use my 700 so intensely that I'd drain all available power from the one nuclear power station in the Netherlands, making it melt-down all the way to China, making them retaliate, thus ending the world a few days late.
I doubt the latter, however, and will stick with CROMI as it is. Just great.
I use my tabby for the internet. Mail, youtube, browsing. Clean Rom and browser2ram has eliminated my io troubles. In fact, i'm running CR 2.72 and haven't bothered to upgrade because i just don't feel the need.
Plenty of folks have had luck with data2sd. I was not one of them. With two different cards, i had similiar results. It wouldn't run reliably for more than an hour.
Ologn said:
I use my tabby for the internet. Mail, youtube, browsing. Clean Rom and browser2ram has eliminated my io troubles. In fact, i'm running CR 2.72 and haven't bothered to upgrade because i just don't feel the need.
Plenty of folks have had luck with data2sd. I was not one of them. With two different cards, i had similiar results. It wouldn't run reliably for more than an hour.
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Probably not done right. I could do data2sd over and over again with my eyes closed and worked everytime!
i luv d2sd
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Probably not done right. I could do data2sd over and over again with my eyes closed and worked everytime!
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haha, i even used minitools and it still worked!...
i am still using the tweaked recovery from fordwolden's thread and luv it!
downloading 2gb games and still surfin, grab a torrent,update apps,blah,blah..
yeh,sometimes you go too far and stop for 5sec: overall :good:
mine is permanent and just waiting for cards to catch up to ram/bus/cpu ,etc
I can now look into this, as my 64GB UHS-1 Sandisks arrived yesterday. They're now installed in the Infinity, and I want to play.
Soon enough, though, I might unlock and try Cromi....
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I'm somewhat convinced about using CROMI. I've tried browsing around, and I'm not sure I'm getting anywhere with finding a thread that discloses all details about it. If someone can link me the details, I would really appreciate it!
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I'm somewhat convinced about using CROMI. I've tried browsing around, and I'm not sure I'm getting anywhere with finding a thread that discloses all details about it. If someone can link me the details, I would really appreciate it!
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Here you go bro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049274
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I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
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I still get lag when downloading apps in particular when its trying to install after it downloads. Also transition lag in opening apps is still there as well as scrolling though the recent app list but mainly when youre in the home screen or again while apps are installing. Games still lag as well from time to time. But games do open faster.
The only advantage I see with the data2sd is app opens slightly faster like heavy HD games. IMO data2sd is not a must if you're already running CROMI as it doesn't make a lot of difference.
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I still get lag when downloading apps in particular when its trying to install after it downloads. Also transition lag in opening apps is still there as well as scrolling though the recent app list but mainly when youre in the home screen or again while apps are installing. Games still lag as well from time to time. But games do open faster.
The only advantage I see with the data2sd is app opens slightly faster like heavy HD games. IMO data2sd is not a must if you're already running CROMI as it doesn't make a lot of difference.
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I felt pretty newbie asking about what CROMI is when I didn't realize it stands for Clean ROM Inheritance. Not only that, but I also have Browser2RAM installed not too long ago.
Anyway, I really don't have any HD Games to boot into my tablet yet since I don't see a lot of choices offered in my interest. If doing data2sd really isn't of importance, then I guess my question is resolved. Thanks guys!
As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.
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As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.
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I'm currently running IconiaN 2.4 and I installed Seeder a little while ago via CWM and tried a few things. Maps is definitely faster like most have said. I played a couple games and I found Edge and Edge Extended to be roughly the same, Pitfall is the same, Beach Buggy Blitz is the same, and so is Sword and Sworcery. TigerArcade (a Mame type emulator) runs WAAAY better now, not sure why, but it might be because the games I'm playing use a caching system to load on the emulator. I'm going to try Need for Speed Most Wanted as that ran like garbage last time I played it and I hope it may be slightly better this time around. Non gaming apps: Youtube is lot more responsive than it used to be, ES File Explorer seems faster as well, not 100% sure, Android Browser and Chrome both seem roughly the same but haven't done extensive testing. Lastly unlocking and hitting home from within apps is definitely smoother and faster like others have been saying.
My recommendation is to go ahead and give it a go as it seems like its worth it, plus if there are updates to it that make it any better you can just CWM those right over the current version with no need to wipe cache or data at all.:cyclops:
Thanks for recommending this. Will try.
So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.
DarqAnshin said:
So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.
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I personally like Cromi/Cromi-X. I used Cyano for a while but settled on Cromi for the speed. Cromi is based on stock and optimized for speed, so if don't care about additional customization, I would say go for Cromi. But you will lose your warranty if you unlock the tablet to install custom ROMs. Not sure about stability/battery life improvements but I've never had issues with either on Cromi.
DarqAnshin said:
So I typically root almost all my android devices once I get them. My Infinity was the first device I tried keeping stock unrooted as long as possible. I will be honest with saying that there were some times that I didn't even think about the fact if it was rooted or not. Unlike my phone I really only use it for class from time to time to take notes and mostly read books/comics or play games. However, I was utterly floored by the speed difference that my friend got out of his by rooting his. He picked up a TF700 about a month ago from ebay and rooted it the other day. We then spent yesterday testing it out with similar loads. His battery life was about an hour better than mine doing relatively the same thing (head to head gaming), watching netflix, and browsing a few comics. What really got me was the speed and decrease in lag. Honestly I didn't even realize the lag was so bad on mine (I guess I had grown use to it) compared to his.
So my question is this: Would I get even better performance / stability / battery life out of changing the rom to say Cyano or Paranoid or is the stock ROM minus the apps and a few tweaks from the threads the best I am going to get?
If anyone has any expriences they are willing to share with me I would greatly appreciate it.
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This is my two cents. Any custom rom and kernel that you pick will be faster than the stock. I am using Cromi X 4.7 and Hund 3.3.2. I believe that they are very major and stable. The battery life is depended on how you set your device up. Wifi and screen brightness are the most battery consumptions of all. You can go to the wifi advance setting and set it to never use wifi during sleep. You can lower the brightness of your screen unless you are outside to use the ips+. You can also set your turn off screen to one or two minutes before it goes to sleep. With all of that can give more battery back. You will be happy with Crmi X with your choice of kernel..
Drenus said:
I personally like Cromi/Cromi-X. I used Cyano for a while but settled on Cromi for the speed. Cromi is based on stock and optimized for speed, so if don't care about additional customization, I would say go for Cromi. But you will lose your warranty if you unlock the tablet to install custom ROMs. Not sure about stability/battery life improvements but I've never had issues with either on Cromi.
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LetMeKnow said:
This is my two cents. Any custom rom and kernel that you pick will be faster than the stock. I am using Cromi X 4.7 and Hund 3.3.2. I believe that they are very major and stable. The battery life is depended on how you set your device up. Wifi and screen brightness are the most battery consumptions of all. You can go to the wifi advance setting and set it to never use wifi during sleep. You can lower the brightness of your screen unless you are outside to use the ips+. You can also set your turn off screen to one or two minutes before it goes to sleep. With all of that can give more battery back. You will be happy with Crmi X with your choice of kernel..
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I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.
DarqAnshin said:
I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.
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Welcome aboard - enjoy! :good: Just preparing CROMi-X 5.0 RC1 now
DarqAnshin said:
I wanted to thank both of you for all the help that you have provided. This was great advice and Cromi-X works amazingly. While I was drawn to CM by its features, trying out the speed of Crom definitely was a high point for me. The difference from the stock (even stock rooted with apps pulled) and Crom is night and day.
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sbdags said:
Welcome aboard - enjoy! :good: Just preparing CROMi-X 5.0 RC1 now
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I think when the Cromi X 5.0 RC1, you should give it a shot. I think that it will be even better than the previous versions..
Thanks Sbdags for your hard works.. :good:
CROMI-X 5.2.4 vs Cyanogen Mod 11 nightlies vs Omni Rom 4.4.2 vs CMB beta vs Paranoid Android 3.6 vs PAC- Man 3.99
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I'm sticking with Omni. Smoothest and kitkat. Tried cm11 and cromi-x 5.2 with various kernels
Sent from my ASUS TF700T running OmniROM on Kit Kat!
CalPolyRock said:
I'm sticking with Omni. Smoothest and kitkat. Tried cm11 and cromi-x 5.2 with various kernels
Sent from my ASUS TF700T running OmniROM on Kit Kat!
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Do you have any benchmarks?
Mackis said:
Do you have any benchmarks?
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I used to play with benchmarks, trying out Hunds' & _that's various kernels. But, as most people say, benchmarks don't matter in the long run.
I used to match some of the same benchmarks posted in those threads, but things would still feel slugglish over time or during transitions.
I don't want to wait a few seconds for my keyboard to pop up every time, of for me to switch back to the home screen.
So for me, I want a tablet (and phone) that I don't have to reboot every day. I want it to wake up instantly. Keyboard pop up instantly. Multitask smoothly.
CM11 & Omni seem to do that, while Cromi-X seems to lag no matter that I try or whatever sbdags & co do to tweak the hell out of 4.2.x. Sure, a the IO lag has a lot to do with it, and if I'm downloading a big file or have something installing in the background I will always have lag with this tablet.
But, for now, I'm on Omni and pretty happy. If not, I'd say CM11 is very smooth too.
deadlocked007 said:
So it's just me who finds omni rom extremely laggy? What kernel and mods and stuff are you using???
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I have found all the cm11 based ROMs very laggy so far. They don't seem to be optimised for the tf700t yet. Maybe need a bit more time?
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CalPolyRock said:
I used to play with benchmarks, trying out Hunds' & _that's various kernels. But, as most people say, benchmarks don't matter in the long run.
I used to match some of the same benchmarks posted in those threads, but things would still feel slugglish over time or during transitions.
I don't want to wait a few seconds for my keyboard to pop up every time, of for me to switch back to the home screen.
So for me, I want a tablet (and phone) that I don't have to reboot every day. I want it to wake up instantly. Keyboard pop up instantly. Multitask smoothly.
CM11 & Omni seem to do that, while Cromi-X seems to lag no matter that I try or whatever sbdags & co do to tweak the hell out of 4.2.x. Sure, a the IO lag has a lot to do with it, and if I'm downloading a big file or have something installing in the background I will always have lag with this tablet.
But, for now, I'm on Omni and pretty happy. If not, I'd say CM11 is very smooth too.
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I've made a lot of improvements in CROMi-X 5.3 to combat the lag when something is using the disk in the background. It's a lot better now than it was on the last few versions.
There's never going to be a definite answer on this. How do you define "lag"?
What are you looking for in your rom?
How do you use your tablet?
You just have to try them all and decide for yourself...
I'm always like: ???????????? when someone reports lag on CROMi-X. I just don't get it, because I don't have it.....
I tried CM 10.2 and CM 11 on this tablet and I found them to be slower and (to me more importantly) a hell of a lot buggier than CROMi-X!
But again: I guess not only beauty but also lag and performance is in the eye of the beholder....
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I have found all the cm11 based ROMs very laggy so far. They don't seem to be optimised for the tf700t yet. Maybe need a bit more time?
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I've made a lot of improvements in CROMi-X 5.3 to combat the lag when something is using the disk in the background. It's a lot better now than it was on the last few versions.
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@sbdags did an amazing job with 4.2. So did hunds and _that. No disrespect. Just after running 4.2 for a long time, I'd like to run something newer as long as it's responsive. I don't care about benchmarks as I said before.
I'm hoping sbdags have the chance to do the same with 4.3 or 4.4 if Asus releases it for the 700, or 701 and then back port to the 700.
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CalPolyRock said:
@sbdags did an amazing job with 4.2. So did hunds and _that. No disrespect. Just after running 4.2 for a long time, I'd like to run something newer as long as it's responsive. I don't care about benchmarks as I said before.
I'm hoping sbdags have the chance to do the same with 4.3 or 4.4 if Asus releases it for the 700, or 701 and then back port to the 700.
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Newer and frankenrom'd doesn't translate into "better" IMHO.. But everybody rolls differently...
sbdags released his beta for the TF701 on 4.3 already. There won't be much porting back though - Tegra4 framework is just too different. But I bet the roms for the Tf701 will be even better because he has so much experience with tweaking the Asus roms
berndblb said:
There's never going to be a definite answer on this. How do you define "lag"?
What are you looking for in your rom?
How do you use your tablet?
You just have to try them all and decide for yourself...
I'm always like: ???????????? when someone reports lag on CROMi-X. I just don't get it, because I don't have it.....
I tried CM 10.2 and CM 11 on this tablet and I found them to be slower and (to me more importantly) a hell of a lot buggier than CROMi-X!
But again: I guess not only beauty but also lag and performance is in the eye of the beholder....
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Have you watched the Google's 2012 I/O keynote where Google introduced Android 4.1 and Project Butter? Google has clearly defined what they perceive as lag in Android as situations where the UI's frame rate drops below 60 fps and you can clearly see stutter in animation, which is why Google also introduced Systrace to profile app performance. If the frame rate drops significantly below 60 fps (which I always encounter in the stock app drawer), you will see things like transition effect stutters when swiping between pages or the laggy fly-in effect when you open the app drawer. If you have a Nexus 10 to compare, the difference in terms of frame rate is so apparent that it is almost impossible not to notice. If someone had a high-end camera that can capture 60 fps or 120fps videos like the one Google used to demo Android 4.1, we could easily capture all these instances of lags on videos and had a more scientific discussion. To me, the Nexus 10 is the gold standard of 10-inch tablet performance and I have yet to see another non-Nexus 10-inch tablet (besides the iPad, if I may) that deliver the same level of performance, regardless of ROMs being used.
Moreover, not to discount the work that the xda community has put into improving performance, there are simply too many ways that you can make an Android device drop frames here and there. Even powerful devices like the Note 3 can fail to deliver constant 60 fps UI frame rate. I'm sure with the right combination of widgets and apps, you can also make the Nexus 10 stutter. Or simply, you can just fill up 90% of the internal storage and watch how the performance degrades. To be honest, it is much harder to believe that there is no lag at all, regardless of devices and ROMs that you use. Even Google said that Project Butter is not perfect and still an ongoing effort.
Lastly, workload can also dramatically affect performance and make instances of lags more noticeable, so your usage pattern is a factor. Personally, even on CROMI-X, my tablet could become really laggy if I used it for my work like the other day, even with only 3 apps in my recent apps list: Adobe Reader to read a big pdf file (a 100-page annual report of a company, with a lot of text and images), the stock Browser to research relevant information with around 10 tabs, one being facebook desktop site (seriously, the facebook desktop site is really terrible on Android), Merriam Webster Dictionary app to look up certain words, all in landscape mode. In that scenario, my tf700 performed just like a big slide show.
+1 all the way.
BUT reg the Nexus: No external storage - no deal. For me......
berndblb said:
+1 all the way.
BUT reg the Nexus: No external storage - no deal. For me......
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I am in the same boat as you, which is why I am very excited to see more of those Google Play Edition devices. I highly doubt that there will ever be a Google Play Edition Transformer tablet, but it would be fantastic to have one.
CMB
I switched from CROMi-X to CMB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577165) a couple of days ago and I am really happy with it.
@lj50036 has done a great job and so far I haven't had any issues/sluggishness although it is based off CM11. The dock works like a charm as well
The only thing that did not work was being able to use ART on CMB for me.