CROMI-X 5.2.4 vs Cyanogen Mod 11 nightlies vs Omni Rom 4.4.2 vs CMB beta vs Paranoid Android 3.6 vs PAC- Man 3.99
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I'm sticking with Omni. Smoothest and kitkat. Tried cm11 and cromi-x 5.2 with various kernels
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CalPolyRock said:
I'm sticking with Omni. Smoothest and kitkat. Tried cm11 and cromi-x 5.2 with various kernels
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Do you have any benchmarks?
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Do you have any benchmarks?
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I used to play with benchmarks, trying out Hunds' & _that's various kernels. But, as most people say, benchmarks don't matter in the long run.
I used to match some of the same benchmarks posted in those threads, but things would still feel slugglish over time or during transitions.
I don't want to wait a few seconds for my keyboard to pop up every time, of for me to switch back to the home screen.
So for me, I want a tablet (and phone) that I don't have to reboot every day. I want it to wake up instantly. Keyboard pop up instantly. Multitask smoothly.
CM11 & Omni seem to do that, while Cromi-X seems to lag no matter that I try or whatever sbdags & co do to tweak the hell out of 4.2.x. Sure, a the IO lag has a lot to do with it, and if I'm downloading a big file or have something installing in the background I will always have lag with this tablet.
But, for now, I'm on Omni and pretty happy. If not, I'd say CM11 is very smooth too.
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So it's just me who finds omni rom extremely laggy? What kernel and mods and stuff are you using???
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I have found all the cm11 based ROMs very laggy so far. They don't seem to be optimised for the tf700t yet. Maybe need a bit more time?
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CalPolyRock said:
I used to play with benchmarks, trying out Hunds' & _that's various kernels. But, as most people say, benchmarks don't matter in the long run.
I used to match some of the same benchmarks posted in those threads, but things would still feel slugglish over time or during transitions.
I don't want to wait a few seconds for my keyboard to pop up every time, of for me to switch back to the home screen.
So for me, I want a tablet (and phone) that I don't have to reboot every day. I want it to wake up instantly. Keyboard pop up instantly. Multitask smoothly.
CM11 & Omni seem to do that, while Cromi-X seems to lag no matter that I try or whatever sbdags & co do to tweak the hell out of 4.2.x. Sure, a the IO lag has a lot to do with it, and if I'm downloading a big file or have something installing in the background I will always have lag with this tablet.
But, for now, I'm on Omni and pretty happy. If not, I'd say CM11 is very smooth too.
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I've made a lot of improvements in CROMi-X 5.3 to combat the lag when something is using the disk in the background. It's a lot better now than it was on the last few versions.
There's never going to be a definite answer on this. How do you define "lag"?
What are you looking for in your rom?
How do you use your tablet?
You just have to try them all and decide for yourself...
I'm always like: ???????????? when someone reports lag on CROMi-X. I just don't get it, because I don't have it.....
I tried CM 10.2 and CM 11 on this tablet and I found them to be slower and (to me more importantly) a hell of a lot buggier than CROMi-X!
But again: I guess not only beauty but also lag and performance is in the eye of the beholder....
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I have found all the cm11 based ROMs very laggy so far. They don't seem to be optimised for the tf700t yet. Maybe need a bit more time?
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I've made a lot of improvements in CROMi-X 5.3 to combat the lag when something is using the disk in the background. It's a lot better now than it was on the last few versions.
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@sbdags did an amazing job with 4.2. So did hunds and _that. No disrespect. Just after running 4.2 for a long time, I'd like to run something newer as long as it's responsive. I don't care about benchmarks as I said before.
I'm hoping sbdags have the chance to do the same with 4.3 or 4.4 if Asus releases it for the 700, or 701 and then back port to the 700.
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@sbdags did an amazing job with 4.2. So did hunds and _that. No disrespect. Just after running 4.2 for a long time, I'd like to run something newer as long as it's responsive. I don't care about benchmarks as I said before.
I'm hoping sbdags have the chance to do the same with 4.3 or 4.4 if Asus releases it for the 700, or 701 and then back port to the 700.
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Newer and frankenrom'd doesn't translate into "better" IMHO.. But everybody rolls differently...
sbdags released his beta for the TF701 on 4.3 already. There won't be much porting back though - Tegra4 framework is just too different. But I bet the roms for the Tf701 will be even better because he has so much experience with tweaking the Asus roms
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There's never going to be a definite answer on this. How do you define "lag"?
What are you looking for in your rom?
How do you use your tablet?
You just have to try them all and decide for yourself...
I'm always like: ???????????? when someone reports lag on CROMi-X. I just don't get it, because I don't have it.....
I tried CM 10.2 and CM 11 on this tablet and I found them to be slower and (to me more importantly) a hell of a lot buggier than CROMi-X!
But again: I guess not only beauty but also lag and performance is in the eye of the beholder....
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Have you watched the Google's 2012 I/O keynote where Google introduced Android 4.1 and Project Butter? Google has clearly defined what they perceive as lag in Android as situations where the UI's frame rate drops below 60 fps and you can clearly see stutter in animation, which is why Google also introduced Systrace to profile app performance. If the frame rate drops significantly below 60 fps (which I always encounter in the stock app drawer), you will see things like transition effect stutters when swiping between pages or the laggy fly-in effect when you open the app drawer. If you have a Nexus 10 to compare, the difference in terms of frame rate is so apparent that it is almost impossible not to notice. If someone had a high-end camera that can capture 60 fps or 120fps videos like the one Google used to demo Android 4.1, we could easily capture all these instances of lags on videos and had a more scientific discussion. To me, the Nexus 10 is the gold standard of 10-inch tablet performance and I have yet to see another non-Nexus 10-inch tablet (besides the iPad, if I may) that deliver the same level of performance, regardless of ROMs being used.
Moreover, not to discount the work that the xda community has put into improving performance, there are simply too many ways that you can make an Android device drop frames here and there. Even powerful devices like the Note 3 can fail to deliver constant 60 fps UI frame rate. I'm sure with the right combination of widgets and apps, you can also make the Nexus 10 stutter. Or simply, you can just fill up 90% of the internal storage and watch how the performance degrades. To be honest, it is much harder to believe that there is no lag at all, regardless of devices and ROMs that you use. Even Google said that Project Butter is not perfect and still an ongoing effort.
Lastly, workload can also dramatically affect performance and make instances of lags more noticeable, so your usage pattern is a factor. Personally, even on CROMI-X, my tablet could become really laggy if I used it for my work like the other day, even with only 3 apps in my recent apps list: Adobe Reader to read a big pdf file (a 100-page annual report of a company, with a lot of text and images), the stock Browser to research relevant information with around 10 tabs, one being facebook desktop site (seriously, the facebook desktop site is really terrible on Android), Merriam Webster Dictionary app to look up certain words, all in landscape mode. In that scenario, my tf700 performed just like a big slide show.
+1 all the way.
BUT reg the Nexus: No external storage - no deal. For me......
berndblb said:
+1 all the way.
BUT reg the Nexus: No external storage - no deal. For me......
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I am in the same boat as you, which is why I am very excited to see more of those Google Play Edition devices. I highly doubt that there will ever be a Google Play Edition Transformer tablet, but it would be fantastic to have one.
CMB
I switched from CROMi-X to CMB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577165) a couple of days ago and I am really happy with it.
@lj50036 has done a great job and so far I haven't had any issues/sluggishness although it is based off CM11. The dock works like a charm as well
The only thing that did not work was being able to use ART on CMB for me.
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
My experience is that it is NOT slow and buggy.
I could compare it with an iPad3 last week and I think they are very close.
You can't compare it with a note because due to the much higher resolution the gpu has to do so much more computing. That is why the nexus7 is faster than the tf700 due to it's smaller screen AND resolution
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled. My table is very fast. Just remember before you flash a new rom, just do factory reset(data wipe 3 times). Also root is good (allow you to install rooted app like Titinium backup, SetcPU etc..), but don't unlock unless absolutely necessary (void your warranty), or you have time or like to play with custom rom.
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Yes, all games, videos, pictures, and documents and apps are function normally. There are 3 most popular office apps:
1. Documents to go (this can view google docs also. Paid version only)
2. Kingsoft office
3. Polaris office (currently polaris has a bug with fonts).
My stock browser can view google docs fine. I think stock browser is the best in my opinion (have tried boat, chrome, mozilla etc...)
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My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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Well,
I guess I'm going to do the downgrade to ICS .30\root\then try the rootkreeper deal back to Belly Jean.
I really don't want to go thru all this, but if I want to keep chipping away trying to find a better Android experience then so be it.
Pain in the ass...
Thanx for the info! That was my biggest thoughts about the Infinity, "is the RAM enough?" and it isnt but then Ill just have to multitask less and try to tweak it. And perhaps dont install multipicture wallpaper.. but thats one of the things that I love about my Note
buhoitr: thanx for the suggestions, Ill try them and see
What rom would you suggest for getting the most out of the Infinity?
zenaxe said:
The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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Hmmm, I've found mine to be quick and virtually bug-free, but then again I didn't buy it as a toy.
A little tweaking and I wouldn't call it slow. Even stock its a solid piece of equipment.
Apply data2sd mod built for CleanROM 2 after installing the ROM. You'll need a fast sd card.
Research the threads. The blob for data2sd for that ROM was just posted today.
look at my I/O!
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I own both the Infinity and the Acer a700 and after the a700 got JB earlier today, I will say that the Infinity lags more than the a700 (and I was very happy with the Infinity). Colour me shocked.
The only time I really ever experience any lag or sluggishness is when browsing. I will be rooting once there is a method discovered for Jelly Bean on the Infinity. I'd really like to give browser2ram a shot. I've heard it does wonders for browsing.
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Better than ever
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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Im rooted and installed CleanRom2.2 this morning and it is indeed faster and smoother i will try the tweaking you guys suggested later. It still lagged when i downloaded my spotify playlists while i was downloading youtube movies tho
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
Will i unlock? No...
Thats OK said:
I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
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If it was really laggy and something that i can't deal with i would unlock but since it feels flawless, I might stay. I don't give a crap about their warranty but i do care for my device (brick)
ExjeetzZ said:
I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever!
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It's the total opposite for me. ICS was fast and virtually lag-free. The latest updates to Jellybean my Infinity lags like nobody's business. Very disappointing. Looks like root'n'rom time.
buhohitr said:
I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled.
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What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
squigs said:
What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
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If I may attempt an answer,
I believe that's a reference to the "force gpu rendering" in settings under developer options.
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I know there are a lot of us TF700 owners out there, but I am always surprised by how few downloads I see everytime I go to update CleanROM Inheritance.
Let's all give a shout out to which ROM you are using on your Infinity and why it is the best option for how you use the tablet.
It will get overly complicated if I include the kernel version in the poll, so let us know which kernel works best for you as well and if you are using Data2SD.
Sorry if I missed any options.
For me - rockin' CROMI 3.03 with Clemsyn 1.3-1.8 kernel. So far super smooth and stable. Nothing fancy on my setup - not into theming or heavy gaming. I do wish we had more options for extending battery....
ParanoidAndroid here, per app DPI settings makes my life so much better it's not even funny. Some examples of how: I reduced the dpi on Shortyz Crossword so that the clue text becomes large enough to read and the keyboard is usable; on the other hand I increased the dpi on my launcher and web browsers (especially overskreen) to get more screen real estate out of them by reducing the size of the status bars, icons and controls. Basically this rom lets me fix programs that have issues with high resolutions without affecting other programs that aren't having problems, truly a great rom!
Currently CleanROM Inheritance 2.7.2 ODEXED with Clemsyns 13-18
Running ADW.Launcher Ex with Multi Picture Live Wallpaper app..... and boy it's smooth and fast
and it looks absolutely Great!
I'm waiting for new 3.x ODEXED which should be even faster
Cleanrom 3.0.3
Went back to Nova after using ADW for a while. I too use Multi Picture Live Wallpaper.
This rom saved me from selling my Infinity.
Baked Black Bean
Wow, I'm the only one who has voted for Baked Black Bean. You guys should give it a try. It's real smooth.
stwum said:
Wow, I'm the only one who has voted for Baked Black Bean. You guys should give it a try. It's real smooth.
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I'm currently on CROMI 3.0.3 with Clemsey Universalstock700ver2 kernel and so far everything seems 95% smooth. It's mainly the transitions that arent smooth. Games are definitely better with the overclocked gpu. But I will try Baked Black Bean. Which Kernel do you use with it?
EDIT: Just saw that theres bug in replying with the Email app which I use a lot so I guess I'll have to skip trying Black Bean for now. There's a camera bug too which isnt much of a big deal.
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I'm a big fan of CM 10.1, it's very smooth and fast.
I finally unlocked last week. I'm on CleanRom Inheritance 3.x, I was largely happy with ASUS' JB implementation and was just looking for performance enhancements and debloating so something like CROMI is ideal for me. I will probably add the data2sd hack after I get a new 64gb sd card.
Still on CleanROM 2.4. Any particularly compelling reasons why I should switch to CleanROM inheritance?
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Still on CleanROM 2.4. Any particularly compelling reasons why I should switch to CleanROM inheritance?
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Yes. Many performance improvements.
aznmode said:
I'm currently on CROMI 3.0.3 with Clemsey Universalstock700ver2 kernel and so far everything seems 95% smooth. It's mainly the transitions that arent smooth.
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you should definitely try ADW Ex launcher.... after install use preset "fast" and then configure your own way. Then this baby is flying
All transitions are super smooth without ANY lag
Still running CleanROM 2.4. Currently waiting for a stable version of CM10.1 or an RC version.
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you should definitely try ADW Ex launcher.... after install use preset "fast" and then configure your own way. Then this baby is flying
All transitions are super smooth without ANY lag
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I'm sorry I meant to say transition with opening apps in general specially from the recent app list and also screen rotation.
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smoking my weed while watching movies on my cm10.1 powered tablet
Wow - surprised at how few of us are using the custom ROMs available for the TF700 overall. As a CleanROM user I tend to see a few new users every week that post questions as they flash for the 1st time, but I guess I expected much more volume overall.
Of course I realize that the custom ROM type does not generally hang out in the General forums, so the #s are very anecdotal.
Does the Build matter???
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Still on CleanROM 2.4. Any particularly compelling reasons why I should switch to CleanROM inheritance?
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I feel the same way - and became reluctant when I noticed the build difference.
I am build 10.4.4.16 while Inheritance is designed from Build 10.4.4.23 (or does it even matter?)
CM10.1 but I should've waited a bit longer with upgrading.
I'd be happily rockin CM10 if I could just UNLOCK the @#$%ing thing.
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I'd be happily rockin CM10 if I could just UNLOCK the @#$%ing thing.
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Just keep trying. I had issues too. But the third day of trying it about 20 times a day it finally worked.
I'm rocking inheritance with the kernel 1.8ghz, 700gpu, 1450mw. Love it. I have used cm10 in the oat on my old fallacy tab, it's also great. I really the half way stock feel.
Someone may be able answer but i doubt but i have to ask the question...
Had my tf since november - the business on it as soon as it was out of the box. But no matter what image ive loaded onto it its always been slow ( i think ive tried them all) ie my nexus4 runs greasy smooth compared to my tf, almost to the point that a guy at work gave me a 300 to unlock and his seemed a lot better/smoother/faster than mine....is it just mine or is it the norm
currently im on cyanogen 10.1 latest nightly with the bryce overclocked kernel running at 1.9gb if i was a betting man i would say the nova launcher was running about 10fps with all the special effects off...as a guide...
ps especially the browser - no matter which one it always takes ages to load pages....
Thanks to anyone that can shed any light on it....
I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.
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I must admit I struggle with your story language-wise, but I think I do get your general statement. CROMI, for example, should run smoothly, no matter what, UNLESS your device is faulty.
I'd recommend wiping EVERYTHING -- so you do not run into remnants form earlier ROMs/installations -- and starting anew with CROMI, just to be sure. Update your bootloader (to the JB version), and then try data2SD if it is still not to your liking.
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And to add to Marty's efforts what ever you do if flashisg from a custom recovery with JB 4.1 or later do not use an older version of any recovery!
Hi - which rom is that...?
I must say im kind of trying that right now....complete wipe, factory reset and then a factory reset from the recovery screen....its auto loading the apps at the moment....thanks for the reply all the same....ive never tried that bit of software that goes on the memory card...is there a walkthrough somewhere?
im pretty sure im on the jb bootloader but is there a way to check??
You can flash the latest bootloader form page 2 of the CleanRom Inheritance thread And CROMI from page 1
Mr read PLZ
As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.
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As far as I know stock TF700 related ROMs are laggy and require a custom Over clocked kernel such as Clemsyn which is rubbish and even with this performance is sluggish. But her is a way to get rid of the lag once and for all. Unlock and root the TF700. Then install Cyanogenmod 10.1 latest build and then when you boot into it set the IO as CFQ permenantly and then use Seeder with the settings on aggressive and the IO extend option unticked but all the rest of the options ticked. Also use lightning browser or Browser2RAM which enhances the stock Android browsers performance.
After that enjoy a super fast transformer like never before. Don't use any other rom . My transformer got nearly 150000 on Antutu which is really good and I got nearly 5500 on Quadrant with it on performance mode (I didn't use the custom CM10.1 customs kernel or any other one just the stock CM10.1 kernel). My transformer in balanced seems to be on par with an iPad 2, 3 and better than a normal Asus transformer Prime or TF300 and I have over 40 applications with several games with 1+GB data. The IO problem is still there as it is hardware based although with this their is nearly no lag for the first time. Beautiful TF700 CyanogenMod developers. I read the commit log and checked the code many gerrit optimisations for the IO and Armv7 cores. Enjoy!!!!! Wohoo Project Butter!!!!!
Continue Cyanogenmod providing better support than Asus. One reason to jailbreak (Root) is because of this.
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Well not to brag but flash CROMI which is based on stock and you can achieve 17000 on antutu and over 7000 on quadrant. So much for stock ROMs being laggy eh?
Now with no overclocking you are looking at 5500 - 6000 on quadrant so would seem to be on par with CM based ROMs. I do like CM but you lose some functionality whilst gaining others and you have to suffer some stability issues especially if doing nightlies. Also they never seem to finish them.....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.
Thats OK said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2164090
This user posted the same response in the above thread also.
Looks to me like someone has an agenda.
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Don't you? I know I have!
MartyHulskemper said:
Don't you? I know I have!
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Yes I do
Thats OK said:
Yes I do
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Me three!
I want to start experimenting with custom ROMs, and figured CROMi-X or Cyanogenmod would be a good place to start. What would be a good one to start with, and what are the benefits of one over the other?
I can't speak to the differences but i recently did my first root and flash and really like CROMi-X, the performance is leaps and bounds better than stock and its easy to install
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I'm thinking CROMi-X will be the way to go since it's close to what I'm used to. I just don't want to get one set up the way I like it, and then change ROMs because I find out I like the features of the one I didn't install.
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I'm thinking CROMi-X will be the way to go since it's close to what I'm used to. I just don't want to get one set up the way I like it, and then change ROMs because I find out I like the features of the one I didn't install.
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If you are looking for a look and feel close to stock, just much, much faster, go for CROMi-X. It's also more stable than CM because it based on the Asus framework.
If you want to customize to the wazoo and don't mind the occasional hiccup, go for CM. It is build from the ground up and offers way more options to personalize the tablet.
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Unfortunately, I have to say that CM is even slower than stock. Very annoying. CROMi is way better and faster. Did not try the X version yet but it should be fast a well. Please let us know about you experience either way.
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If you are looking for a look and feel close to stock, just much, much faster, go for CROMi-X. It's also more stable than CM because it based on the Asus framework.
If you want to customize to the wazoo and don't mind the occasional hiccup, go for CM. It is build from the ground up and offers way more options to personalize the tablet.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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Other than customizing how it looks, what are some of the other options that can be customized?
jackdbr said:
Unfortunately, I have to say that CM is even slower than stock. Very annoying. CROMi is way better and faster. Did not try the X version yet but it should be fast a well. Please let us know about you experience either way.
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That is one thing I was wanting to get away from. It drives me nuts how slow the stock ROM can be!
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Other than customizing how it looks, what are some of the other options that can be customized?
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Er....
Kernel - 5 choices now I think
DPI - Pixel definiton
Resolution 1080p or 720p
Which Asus Apps you want / don't want
Which Google Apps you want / don't want
5 different boot animations
Loads of performance tweaks incluing overclocking, underclocking, over volting, under volting
Additional options and menus
Full theme support through the excellent Colour Theme Mod (Change colours of almost anything and battery icons etc)
And loads more.
In fact I probably went a bit mad on the number of permutations I offer! It's a wonder they all work!
NTFS supported kernel?
Which of the cromi-x kernels support a 1Tb external drive? I flashed the ROM but I can't remember which kernel I picked during the installation. It couldn't read my external drive or a new 64 Gb microSD. I flashed back to stock which does support both BUT it is too darned slow!!!! Which should I pick next time?
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Er....
Kernel - 5 choices now I think
DPI - Pixel definiton
Resolution 1080p or 720p
Which Asus Apps you want / don't want
Which Google Apps you want / don't want
5 different boot animations
Loads of performance tweaks incluing overclocking, underclocking, over volting, under volting
Additional options and menus
Full theme support through the excellent Colour Theme Mod (Change colours of almost anything and battery icons etc)
And loads more.
In fact I probably went a bit mad on the number of permutations I offer! It's a wonder they all work!
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I went ahead and installed CROMi-X, and I have to say I'm glad I did! I like being able to customize my electronics, so all the options are great! Thanks for the excellent work!
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Which of the cromi-x kernels support a 1Tb external drive? I flashed the ROM but I can't remember which kernel I picked during the installation. It couldn't read my external drive or a new 64 Gb microSD. I flashed back to stock which does support both BUT it is too darned slow!!!! Which should I pick next time?
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Try that's OC variant
Went Cromi and very happy with speed, stability and overall performance.
Can you move from Cyanogen to CROMi-X?
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I went ahead and installed CROMi-X, and I have to say I'm glad I did! I like being able to customize my electronics, so all the options are great! Thanks for the excellent work!
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I am on Cyanogen - how do i move to CROMi-X - not sure what are the steps.
I am unlocked with Clockwors Mod recovery...
Thanks
Massi
ghislandi said:
I am on Cyanogen - how do i move to CROMi-X - not sure what are the steps.
I am unlocked with Clockwors Mod recovery...
Thanks
Massi
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When I installed CROMi-X, I just followed the steps here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425383
I have to say, I'm glad I did!
CROMi-X
berndblb probably summed it up the best in Post #4 but for me the only customROM choice is CROMi-X!!!
There are plenty of options and choices from rock solid stable to flying out of your hand fast but the most significant reason is you get a personalized team devoted to CROMi development, From the Master sbdags to the kernel developers, the software contributors as well as the testers. They seem like one big family... You basically get a bonus feature of an "Android Classroom" with this ROM. I have learned more about my TF700 from just following along with the OP's for all the CROMi-X versions.
Good luck and have fun with CROMi-X
I've been using CROMi-X since I got my tablet last christmas. I love all of the customizations that they make available, plus all of the kernal options that they include.
Cromi-x 5 is awesome very smoothe. Would recommend anytime
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Cromi-x 5 is awesome very smoothe. Would recommend anytime
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I do like CROMi-X, using 5.1a. But I must have something not tweaked right. I still get it being bogged down when a software update from the Play Store is downloading. Also Lookout software checks everyone, so I guess that could be the culprit. But other than that, I do see some speed improvements over stock. I still have all but 3 of the Asus Apps installed. Just rooted and unlocked this week. So need to figure out what I really don't need in terms of apps.
optimizing loop
Upgraded to 5.1a odex and on every reboot go thru optimizing applications. Installed 5.1a deodex and it boots just fine. Reinstated 5.1a odex and does the same optimizing loop on every boot.
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Upgraded to 5.1a odex and on every reboot go thru optimizing applications. Installed 5.1a deodex and it boots just fine. Reinstated 5.1a odex and does the same optimizing loop on every boot.
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Choose a different kernel.
I currently have the OmniRom 4.4.4 insalled on my Xoom Wingray device. I poked around and saw the EOS Rom. I'm really torn if I want to go and re-wipe and rebuild my device on the EOS rom. What's the pros and cons of each rom based on opinions of the users running each one. Please no flames or fanboys, just honest things you like about your particular Rom.
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I currently have the OmniRom 4.4.4 insalled on my Xoom Wingray device. I poked around and saw the EOS Rom. I'm really torn if I want to go and re-wipe and rebuild my device on the EOS rom. What's the pros and cons of each rom based on opinions of the users running each one. Please no flames or fanboys, just honest things you like about your particular Rom.
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This whole section seems to be lacking people who are willing to or have experience with each releases. But what are your thoughts on Omnirom? Why did you choose that over CM 11 and now looking at EOS. Trying to get as much info as possible before i consider flashing this old tablet and squeezing more life out of it
I chose the Omnirom because it was the first I heard about. I wanted android 4.4.2 and it seemed all google searches pointed to Omni. Now after running it for a week or two I deal with bugs that I don't want to fight with forever. Volume control doesn't work, random chrome crashes and now tablet reboots. I tried to reach teamomni but no luck. And EOS has built and published nightlies more recently than omni. I know I'm pushing this tab!et beyond its years. I figure this is the end of the road for this device, so I want to squeeze every ounce out of it. I can't thank both teams enough for their work. It's more than I would be capable of ever doing.
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I chose the Omnirom because it was the first I heard about. I wanted android 4.4.2 and it seemed all google searches pointed to Omni. Now after running it for a week or two I deal with bugs that I don't want to fight with forever. Volume control doesn't work, random chrome crashes and now tablet reboots. I tried to reach teamomni but no luck. And EOS has built and published nightlies more recently than omni. I know I'm pushing this tab!et beyond its years. I figure this is the end of the road for this device, so I want to squeeze every ounce out of it. I can't thank both teams enough for their work. It's more than I would be capable of ever doing.
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This is what I'm doing as well. Hadn't used the Xoom in forever but figured I'd try to squeeze more life out of it at this point until Nexus 8 or 9 (whichever it's called) comes out. I was running Omni and kept getting "bug reports", so I've switched to EOS due to the fact that they are more actively publishing updates to the ROM.
Only been on EOS for a day or so, but so far so good. With No-frills CPU control installed the Xoom seems to be running fine with no bugs to report. Settings in no-frills:
CPU Max: 1.504 GHz
Min: 456 MHz
Gov: ondemand
i/o scheduler: row
I just want to restate that I value the time and effort of ALL of these developers who graciously give up hours of labor to do this work. I would hope no one is offended by any of my previous statements of issues.
Omni vs TeamEOS
At first I've installed Omni. I was very happy with it. But after some time I've got performance problems. Also Chrome was freezing many times while browsing around.
So I decided to switch to TeamEOS. I was a fan from EOS since the early days. They kept my Xoom alive. But unfortunenatly I got the same problems on TeamEOS with Chrome. It kept freezing.
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738705 if you have the same problem.
At last I am also happy with TeamEOS and it's difficult to say which ROM is better. There are some differences in the preferences and Omni ROM seems to be a bit ahead but at last I'm ok with was TeamEOS offers.
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At first I've installed Omni. I was very happy with it. But after some time I've got performance problems. Also Chrome was freezing many times while browsing around.
So I decided to switch to TeamEOS. I was a fan from EOS since the early days. They kept my Xoom alive. But unfortunenatly I got the same problems on TeamEOS with Chrome. It kept freezing.
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738705 if you have the same problem.
At last I am also happy with TeamEOS and it's difficult to say which ROM is better. There are some differences in the preferences and Omni ROM seems to be a bit ahead but at last I'm ok with was TeamEOS offers.
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The chrome issue boils down to a tegra video driver. It's closed source and has not been updated since the last official release which I believe was 4.1.2
This issue effects many things video related some of it you may see most of it you'll never notice. Since its a closed source driver it's likely to be and issue we will just have to deal with
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The chrome issue boils down to a tegra video driver. It's closed source and has not been updated since the last official release which I believe was 4.1.2
This issue effects many things video related some of it you may see most of it you'll never notice. Since its a closed source driver it's likely to be and issue we will just have to deal with
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I have switched to the Team EOS rom and have been happy with it, I have had the dreaded Sleep of Death bug that many users of the EOS rom have described and I do see the same Chrome crashes that I did on Omni. Now I've switched to Firefox and I don't have the issues.
Oddly I had none of these chrome issues on stock, and the only reason I upgraded from stock was to get Chromecast screen casting working from my tablet so I could use some of my apps on my TV.
Live and learn I suppose.
After some days of using TeamEOS... The battery usage seems to be much more better!
On the other side TeamEOS freezes from time to time. Only a reset helps.
But hey, there's KK on my Xoom
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I have switched to the Team EOS rom and have been happy with it, I have had the dreaded Sleep of Death bug that many users of the EOS rom have described and I do see the same Chrome crashes that I did on Omni. Now I've switched to Firefox and I don't have the issues.
Oddly I had none of these chrome issues on stock, and the only reason I upgraded from stock was to get Chromecast screen casting working from my tablet so I could use some of my apps on my TV.
Live and learn I suppose.
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Are you able to cast screen with chromecast ?
I have de Omni 4.4.4 on my xoom and the cast screen do not work, even with mirror enabler app.
Xoom won't be able to, doesn't matter which Rom, it's hardware level, even if I add all the required files to the make file and enable it as soon as you try it reboots. It's the same issue with screenrecord
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AlphaW0lf2014 said:
I have switched to the Team EOS rom and have been happy with it, I have had the dreaded Sleep of Death bug that many users of the EOS rom have described and I do see the same Chrome crashes that I did on Omni. Now I've switched to Firefox and I don't have the issues.
Oddly I had none of these chrome issues on stock, and the only reason I upgraded from stock was to get Chromecast screen casting working from my tablet so I could use some of my apps on my TV.
Live and learn I suppose.
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I've used each of the Kit Kat builds and I finally settled on TeamEOS. This ROM had the most updates and continued to have development after nightlies stopped for Omni and CM. I believe each of these ROM's are really great and each have given new life to our tired Xoom's. The only way you can really tell which ROM is best is to try them and see which you like the most. Hopefully, someday we'll be asking the same questions about which Lollipop version is best, or that may just be wishful thinking. TeamEOS is baked already OC'd to 1400 and you can tweak it higher if you want (I use 1600). I've downloaded Trickster MOD from Google Play and I use it to control governor and other settings. As far any SOD's, I believe you can really minimize the concern if you use Trickster MOD and adjust your CPU min to at least 312 or higher. I had an occasional problem with Chrome so I switched to Chrome Beta and it seems to cause less problems. Some folks will have problems while others seem to get by OK. The stock browser is still pretty decent and gives good performance. I also have the Dolphin Browser but don't tend to use it very much.
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fricklr said:
After some days of using TeamEOS... The battery usage seems to be much more better!
On the other side TeamEOS freezes from time to time. Only a reset helps.
But hey, there's KK on my Xoom
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Try downloading Trickster MOD from Google Play and using it to set your cpu min to at least 312 or higher. This may help with freezes.