Moto X vs Motorola Droid Maxx - General Topics

Spec wise, there's very little difference between these two phones. If you take out the hardware customisation side of the Moto X. Both have the X8 processor, software for always listening and gesture controls such as flicking wrists to start the camera. I'm not sure what the real advantages are of the Moto X over the Droid Maxx? I'm really liking the huge battery life of the Droid Maxx though.
Having said that, I'm in the UK and it looks like Motorola won't be bringing either of these devices in their current form to the UK (big boooooooooooooo to Motorola).

Techno79 said:
Spec wise, there's very little difference between these two phones. If you take out the hardware customisation side of the Moto X. Both have the X8 processor, software for always listening and gesture controls such as flicking wrists to start the camera. I'm not sure what the real advantages are of the Moto X over the Droid Maxx? I'm really liking the huge battery life of the Droid Maxx though.
Having said that, I'm in the UK and it looks like Motorola won't be bringing either of these devices in their current form to the UK (big boooooooooooooo to Motorola).
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[Q] Should I get the Maxx HD?

Hey All,
I'm sure this forum is a bit on the biased side, but I'm between two phones now I think. I'm looking at the Razr Maxx HD and the One X+. Any reasons I should get a Maxx HD over a One X+ other than battery life? I'm torn as I really like the battery life on the Maxx HD, but the camera on the HTC is better. Is the camera on the Razr HD really that bad? I think the camera is my only big hang up from getting this phone over the One X+. I need something that's going to last me two years due to signing a contract so I want to make sure I'm making the right choice. I'm coming from an iPhone 4, so my camera right now is only 5mp and much older, so really if it's better than that I don't need the best. Just torn on what to do. I've also read the One X+ rules really hot and that the quad core in it isn't much faster than most of the dual cores out there. I'm not going to be gaming or at least any high graphic games.
Thanks,
Tim
linedpaper said:
Hey All,
I'm sure this forum is a bit on the biased side, but I'm between two phones now I think. I'm looking at the Razr Maxx HD and the One X+. Any reasons I should get a Maxx HD over a One X+ other than battery life? I'm torn as I really like the battery life on the Maxx HD, but the camera on the HTC is better. Is the camera on the Razr HD really that bad? I think the camera is my only big hang up from getting this phone over the One X+. I need something that's going to last me two years due to signing a contract so I want to make sure I'm making the right choice. I'm coming from an iPhone 4, so my camera right now is only 5mp and much older, so really if it's better than that I don't need the best. Just torn on what to do. I've also read the One X+ rules really hot and that the quad core in it isn't much faster than most of the dual cores out there. I'm not going to be gaming or at least any high graphic games.
Thanks,
Tim
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Well i as you posted it in razr hd forum.. most of the people obviously will recommend you Razr HD but here are few reasons to it.
1. Better Battery Life (Huge Huge Plus)
2. Superior Build Quality (Personally I haven`t seen One X+ but Motorola really did well on this phone)
3. Clean ROM. (Very similar to stock Android)
4. Camera : I think its not a big let down like many people are claiming on other forums. I have clicked many photographs and made few videos and seriously i really liked the quality. It can shoot HDR photos and videos. If you are so concerned about camera go check the phone at the store and try clicking photographs.
5. Best Radio Reception: I have used samsung, sony ericsson, htc, apple in last few years, but the call quality on motorola is really good. I don`t know what other people think, but i felt the difference.
I recognize that there will be a bias in this forum, but I wanted to hear from owners of the phone which is why I went here instead of a general forum. I posted something similar in the One X+ forum as well. All the pros are the reasons I want the phone, the dual/quad core doesn't concern me too much, particularly as I've read the One X+ quad core really performs like a dual core. The camera has been my one hold up. I'll have to go play with one in a store and take some pictures, I figure it has to be better than the 5mp on my iPhone 4 and that's what all my pics are with now. The One X+ does feel pretty solid in terms of build quality, but the battery and heat concern me. It's got an unlockable bootloader too so that's one plus it has, however as long as I can root the Maxx HD, I'll be ok.
Thanks,
Tim
Motorolalover said:
Well i as you posted it in razr hd forum.. most of the people obviously will recommend you Razr HD but here are few reasons to it.
1. Better Battery Life (Huge Huge Plus)
2. Superior Build Quality (Personally I haven`t seen One X+ but Motorola really did well on this phone)
3. Clean ROM. (Very similar to stock Android)
4. Camera : I think its not a big let down like many people are claiming on other forums. I have clicked many photographs and made few videos and seriously i really liked the quality. It can shoot HDR photos and videos. If you are so concerned about camera go check the phone at the store and try clicking photographs.
5. Best Radio Reception: I have used samsung, sony ericsson, htc, apple in last few years, but the call quality on motorola is really good. I don`t know what other people think, but i felt the difference.
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Tough choice, if you need the battery life go with razr. If you want a better camera go HTC. One x camera is not that great so I doubt you'd be that bothered. Most top end phones have comparable cameras ... Reading some reviews you'd think they were miles apart. Real world use I doubt you'd really tell the difference. I'd recommend you try them both.
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[Q] honest advice from HD owners

I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
Get the HD. Everything you listed that you want, the HD has.
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I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
lesdense said:
I'd imagine that, among those choices, the vote on a forum devoted to the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD would be pretty heavy for the Razr HD and the Razr Maxx HD, right? I've got a Maxx HD, rooted and unlocked bootloader, running mhous33's debloated stock ROM. Everything works, all the Verizon stuff is gone, the phone is smooth and fast. It's not perfect, though. I have continued problems getting and keeping a GPS lock. One day it works fine -- the next it's sure I'm 100 miles away. But the camera works, video camera works, HDR camera mode works, Bluetooth works, signal strength is fine.
Overall, though, for me, the combination of a good-sized screen, a relatively light weight and small size (given the screen size) plus a solid build quality and AMAZING battery life make the Maxx HD my DD for the foreseeable future.
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I don't have the MAXX and I'm not rooted or unlocked BL YET, but agreed with everything else it's my favorite out of the other obvious choices for phones.
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mooseknuckles said:
I am getting the itch for a new phone, and i am stuck between 3 phones, and i need some real world input.
I currently have the S3, rooted, unlocked on CM 10.1. I am unhappy with a few things, such as poor signal strength, data drops (on both stock touchwiz and CM) and poor battery life....
The main things i look for when i get a phone are signal strength....being able to get as close to pure android as possible (whether stock or running custom), run wireless tether (for free) and the ability to play decent games (nothing crazy) and run things without the phone locking up.... also, camera is nice as i have two young kids, and i want to take "good" shots, not expecting DSLR quality, and "good" video.....
So i thought to myself, i like the feel of the Razr M, it's almost the perfect size for me. But i hear the signal is terrible for a motorola, and the camera is not the best. but now the bootloader is unlocked so that opens the door to endless things. but it only has 1gb of ram, and the graphics processor is not the best
Then i looked at the Razr HD and thought, nice battery life! decent specs (although not far off from the M i am seeing?) camera is somewhat improved and unlockable bootloader..... bigger screen than the M....
Not the Droid DNA is catching my eye. Spec wise, look, feel, possible unlockable bootloader depending on SW version. Quad core seems fancy... etc etc.
So i am kind of torn. I have had at least 10 android phones in the past 3 years or so ( i worked for vzw for 6 years) and i always thought my OG, Droid X, Droid X2 have had excellent signal. That is really the most important....
So i guess my question is, if you were in my shoes, would you still pick the HD? or would you go a different route? any and all input is welcome, and i thank you in advance for your time. oh and camera reviews for the HD seem mixed on both the video and camera. my wife has the original MAXX, is it all the same?
Chad
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I own an razr hd, i chose this phone after losing my galaxy s2.
I have managed to unlock bootloader and root my device I run my own custom firmware (deleted some useless stuff and enhanced some others)
I think this phone has good battery-life, the camera is decent, wifi sometimes is buggy and gps work fine,
the thing I'm a bit disappointed is the screen pixels seems a bit lowquality, but looking at all the specs this phone is gonna last at least some years
before I will turn to something new
I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
kendive said:
I was in the same boat. I still have my S3 but just use it for a WiFi Toy about all it's good for. The signal just was terrible on it in weak areas.
I got my HD on ebay and love it so far. It outdoes the S3 in many ways.
The only thing I miss on the S3 is the camera, but the MAXX HD does good enough.
Would be a very smart move.
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Yes the camera does suck on the Razr HD. I came from a GNex and even though that phone only has a 5MP camera, it was WAAYYY better than the HD. The HD seems to do good video though. Signal strength is also noticeably better in weak areas. I could never get 4G outside my house on my GNex. Now I get 4G INSIDE my house.
Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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Camera is really really really bad...
worst focussing i ever had on a cellphone, quality not that good, contrast and colors seem worn out.
The rest of the Phone is awesome. Good Performance, really good signal, resistant, good batterylife. Perfect Phone
But if you would like to take snapshots of your children and your family, as a good memory, dont use this Phone. Even in normal daylight my phone got problems making a good, focussed picture, with nice and natural colours.
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I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
More pics. The only thing is though man, you'd be getting a phone that's getting close to a year old. I guess selling it for a gs4 or X phone is always an option later?
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jfriend33 said:
I don't get what all the complaining is with the Razr hd /maxx camera. I've had this phone for two months now after a galaxy nexus. Sure you can't blast pictures as fast as the gnex but the HDR mode is great. Plus if you like taking photos, the Maxx is gonna have the battery life to get the job done and then some.
I was so frustrated with needing to carry extra batteries and charging sticks in my pocket and bag, not to mention remembering to charge them all.
Now my phone works worry free and only needs charging every TWO days.
Gaming is also great. The benchmarks on these phones aren't too shabby either.
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
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Here are some pictures which i took, showing the usual quality i get. Of course i sometimes have good pics, like the ones you posted.
But the average quality is, imho not that good.
Rest of the Phone is more then awesome, eventhough benchmarks on stock are not good, overall feeling is great.
But maybe waiting for the next Motorola Phone Generation would be better for you.
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Wow your pictures looked really washed out. Try tweaking the exposure, or using HDR mode already I take it?
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I also would like to stress the significant improvement in reception with the change from my galaxy nexus. Motorola is known for a killer radio. I'm getting better reception in the boonies even. This is also great for power management.
On that note the acclaimed galaxy S4 is supposed to have superior power management.
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[Q] Moto G vs RAZR i

Hi All
I currently have (HAD: to give it away) a Motorola RAZR i with Intel Inside.
I love the phone, its fast, i like that i has NFC and i like that it has a slot for MicroSD.
I understand that the NFC and the MicroSD is not available on the Moto G.
However i like the fact that the Moto G will have KitKat.
I bought the Razr i for 130 pounds, now i can not buy it again for that price, i only find it for 200.
So my option is buy a Moto G or spend 50 more and buy the RAZRi again.
Cant make my mind up Help?
Thanks
Xiao
I never had a Razr i so I can't help compare them.
But do you have a chance to somehow test the moto g (friend, in a store?). I think that wouls be the best for you to experience which phone you prefer.
Generally to say, I love the battery life, speed, everything about the moto g (also have a n4 and n5). The camera is okay.
And I don't need more than 16gb at all so I don't care about the lack of sdcard slot.
creambyemute said:
I never had a Razr i so I can't help compare them.
But do you have a chance to somehow test the moto g (friend, in a store?). I think that wouls be the best for you to experience which phone you prefer.
Generally to say, I love the battery life, speed, everything about the moto g (also have a n4 and n5). The camera is okay.
And I don't need more than 16gb at all so I don't care about the lack of sdcard slot.
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I must agree, love Moto G smoothness, love that motorla support for this phone, love that battery and I also don't need SD slot.
I had Razr (not Razr i) and it was little laggy. And that battery there, I hate it. The good thing is I bought one year old Razr for 140€ and 6 months later I traded it to almost new Moto G (that costs 199€) so I wins with Moto G
One thing I miss is camera. Yes, it doesn't make the best pictures, but it does take some pictures when you need and thats okay.
Moto G will learn you that even the small things can do big miracles
Had (have) the RARZi and bought Moto G just for curiosity, I never switched RZi on again besides for some camera comparisons, in which MG won massively in low light.
Performance wise it is black and white: The Intel Atom is very snappy, databases (SMS) open up slightly faster on RZi than on MG, but the overall performance goes to MG. Battery runtime is about the same, 2-3 days is easy.
Personally I like the AMOLED of RZi, but I got used to LCD in 2 days and now I really enjoy that fabulous display on MG. Brighter, sharper, sunlight readable. WIFI and GPS works hands down better on MG.
In palm of the hand the RZi is edgy and sharp, MG soft and smooth, I like that. Never missed the SD card (I hated it on RZi, because I always searched my files on the wrong place, internal, external, blah), same for NFC - I don't use it. Sound quality is Motorola like very good on both phones.
If I must buy a new phone right now: Moto G, no doubt.
That is my subjective opinion but I hope this helps.
Thanks shaftenberg
Think I am gonna switch to razr I. I love amoled screens . I miss NFC and need a decent camera for daylight shots. Moto G one just doesn't cut it for me. Great phone though
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The Razr i is also like what 2 years old?
Did it even get JB, it is old tech now really, my wife had one, it was alright, but I'd go moto G personally.
I have a Razr i and i really loved it since the first day of use, but, I will switch from it to Moto G this next week.
I checked this phone on some stores and friends, the speed is amazing. Fantastic speed, no lags, LCD is really nice and I think it is much better than my Razr's amoled (question of personal opinion).
So, I would go for Moto G.
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I loved the RAZR i, I had one 1 year ago and it was fast, unfortunately it lacked dev support and its stuck with Android 4.1.2, but it was a great phone, the lags were very rare, just... it lacked the Moto Love...
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I loved the RAZR i, I had one 1 year ago and it was fast, unfortunately it lacked dev support and its stuck with Android 4.1.2, but it was a great phone, the lags were very rare, just... it lacked the Moto Love...
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Thanks everyone
I bought the Moto G 16GB today.

Getting a new phone.

Hello guys.
I'm using a Nexus 4 now and after about two years it's starting to get broken.
I tought about getting a new phone but I have few requirments, hope you guys can help me with it.
1 (and the most important). smaller form factor than the Nexus 4's has.
2. Good battery life.
3. A well supported phone ( Roms, Guides, etc.).
I can get along with 720P and not having a 810SD xP...
I almost don't play games on the phone and the S4 Pro of the N4 is more than enough for me.
Thanks in advance!
Wassupdog said:
Hello guys.
I'm using a Nexus 4 now and after about two years it's starting to get broken.
I tought about getting a new phone but I have few requirments, hope you guys can help me with it.
1 (and the most important). smaller form factor than the Nexus 4's has.
2. Good battery life.
3. A well supported phone ( Roms, Guides, etc.).
I can get along with 720P and not having a 810SD xP...
I almost don't play games on the phone and the S4 Pro of the N4 is more than enough for me.
Thanks in advance!
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Moto X 2013 or Sony Xperia Z1/Z3 compact. The Moto X has a 4.7" screen like the Nexus 4, but is smaller and lighter. In specs it appears thicker, but that's because the back is curved, and the phone is extremely comfortable to hold and use. Battery life is average, which makes it better than the Nexus 4, which is piss-poor. Some ROMSs are available, but lots of people stick with rooted stock, as it's very fast and minimal, but with some cool features. As for the Sonys, the Z3 Compact is the king of small Androids. Great specs, dual front speakers, very small, and almost absurdly good battery life. The Z1C isn't as nice, but is still a very good phone, and cheaper. Development is somewhat weak for the Sonys though, but at least they're rootable. There's the Galaxy Alpha as well, which is nice and small and thin, but I can't speak for development.
I'd go with the Moto X if you want something cheaper, or the Z3 Compact if you can afford to spend that much.
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Moto X 2013 or Sony Xperia Z1/Z3 compact. The Moto X has a 4.7" screen like the Nexus 4, but is smaller and lighter. In specs it appears thicker, but that's because the back is curved, and the phone is extremely comfortable to hold and use. Battery life is average, which makes it better than the Nexus 4, which is piss-poor. Some ROMSs are available, but lots of people stick with rooted stock, as it's very fast and minimal, but with some cool features. As for the Sonys, the Z3 Compact is the king of small Androids. Great specs, dual front speakers, very small, and almost absurdly good battery life. The Z1C isn't as nice, but is still a very good phone, and cheaper. Development is somewhat weak for the Sonys though, but at least they're rootable. There's the Galaxy Alpha as well, which is nice and small and thin, but I can't speak for development.
I'd go with the Moto X if you want something cheaper, or the Z3 Compact if you can afford to spend that much.
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Thank you very much.
I thought about the Z3 Compact but I don't like Sony's phone and they seems to be "Bricky"..
And I don't like Samsung too.
I think I'd go with the Moto X.
Thanks .
Wassupdog said:
Thank you very much.
I thought about the Z3 Compact but I don't like Sony's phone and they seems to be "Bricky"..
And I don't like Samsung too.
I think I'd go with the Moto X.
Thanks .
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There was a seller on eBay that had the 32gb Verizon branded (but compatible on all GSM networks) Developer Edition for only $200, but he upped the price to $300 just a few days ago. Right before I got my tax refund(s). Another seller has them for $250.
You can improve the battery life on the Moto X by turning off the "active" and "always listening" features. Also, since it's an AMOLED display, use a dark background and any dark themes available.
The Moto X is a seriously great phone. Too much attention is focused on specs, and not enough on simple usability and ergonomics, and the Moto X 2013 is possibly the nicest Android phone to hold, use, and carry in the pocket. I want one so badly, but I just can't justify buying one, since my own Nexus 4 is still going strong.
Planterz said:
There was a seller on eBay that had the 32gb Verizon branded (but compatible on all GSM networks) Developer Edition for only $200, but he upped the price to $300 just a few days ago. Right before I got my tax refund(s). Another seller has them for $250.
You can improve the battery life on the Moto X by turning off the "active" and "always listening" features. Also, since it's an AMOLED display, use a dark background and any dark themes available.
The Moto X is a seriously great phone. Too much attention is focused on specs, and not enough on simple usability and ergonomics, and the Moto X 2013 is possibly the nicest Android phone to hold, use, and carry in the pocket. I want one so badly, but I just can't justify buying one, since my own Nexus 4 is still going strong.
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I will look up for this thanks!
And you're right, I think that the OS feel of the phone is more important than 8-core or 4-core processor.
Wassupdog said:
I will look up for this thanks!
And you're right, I think that the OS feel of the phone is more important than 8-core or 4-core processor.
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I don't think I've seen a single complaint about the performance of the Moto X 2013. It's certainly not impressive on paper, but whatever they did with their "X8" processor definitely works. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Could this be the new X???

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/new-moto-handset-leaks-is-this-the-all-new-moto-x.html
Sure looks familiar.
New hope!
namartlu said:
New hope!
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Looks an awful lot like the Style/Pure with slightly smaller bezel. Not getting any hopes up yet as this could simply be a pic overlay.
Please let it be a new Moto X! I was excited for the new Moto, but then the Moto Z was weak, no front facing speakers, and ugly finger print scanner on front, when it so obviously belongs on the back. I liked the ZTE Axon 7, but then it had the software issues and small, unmarked, unbacklit capacitive buttons. I was excited for the Pixel, but then it didnt have front facing speakers, has an uninspired deign with thick bezels and was priced absurdly expensively.
Is a stock android phone with front facing speakers too much to ask for? This phone looks great, even managed to shrink the already crazy thin bezels on the Moto X Pure. Look Moto, just give me the Moto X Pure again, with finger print scanner on back, Snapdragon 821, slightly better camera, and a decent battery life. I'll instantly buy it, even priced at $500.
That being said Motorola has already released a bunch of devices this year, and leak just looks like the Moto X pure with smaller bezels. I'd say it was fake if I had to guess. How would a new Moto X fit into their lineup? Would be a high end device? How would they market it differently than the Moto Z?
thekalby said:
Please let it be a new Moto X! I was excited for the new Moto, but then the Moto Z was weak, no front facing speakers, and ugly finger print scanner on front, when it so obviously belongs on the back. I liked the ZTE Axon 7, but then it had the software issues and small, unmarked, unbacklit capacitive buttons. I was excited for the Pixel, but then it didnt have front facing speakers, has an uninspired deign with thick bezels and was priced absurdly expensively.
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Agree with the above. I even ordered a OnePlus 3 on payg via O2 in UK. But then I had a good look at one in the shop and decided it was not an upgrade for the X Style. I cancelled the order. To be honest the X Style isn't all that bad and would consider a new model. So long as it had better battery life, a bright display like the current model and at least the 820.
Not convinced it's real but hope there is something in the pipeline. I'll happily stick with the current Moto x as nothing else really appeals at the moment.

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