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Figures they'd come out with it a week before I'm thinking of picking up an Imate Ultimate 8150. But it's out for those of you interested link below.
P3600 Full Body Invisible Shield
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCP3600I.html
Nice!! It's listed for the P3600i, but I guess it's exactly the same as the P3600.
Anybody tried it already?? Better than a regular silicon cover?
How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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How does this work?
If it is stretched all over the PDA, how is it joined/sealed? What about removing the batter cover or using the thumb wheel? Is it fixed like cling-film?
Also, the screen is recessed from the surround so if it is stretched around the housing and screen, then there would seem to be a gap between the screen and this cover, so what will the sensitivity of the screen be like?
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If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
Andych said:
If you followed the link and watched the installation video showing it being applied to an ipod you wouldn't have asked.........suggest you try that first.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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looks like it would be a least 3 pieces - one for the screen, then one for the keys, and one for the back - which does not protect the sides. And the video doesn't show how it fits on the phone, it shows how it fits on the front of a ipod - so don't be a smart a*s. He was asking how it fits on this phone not an ipod dumb a*s.
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Get life....yes the clip shows it being fitted to an ipod......if you gothered to watch the clip you would have seen that the piece for the back also does the sides as they wrap around.....apart from the size etc the actual method of applying this will be the same.
Next time smart a*s do your homework rather than mouthing off.
Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Oh yes all my questions answered if only I had watched the ipod video.
Now All I need is an m700 that is exactly the same shape as an ipod, with all the buttons in the same place, with a flush screen, and well, all very ipodish, and then it will all be clear.
So this will be no more than a screen protector on the PDA. It will not protect the buttons or lower raised section of the housing. Also won't protect the sides (too many buttons), and it seems that the tight curves will be a problem for this cover. I can see this peeling off the m700 in a very short time
If you know so much about it, then can you explain how it will work with a recessed screen? Will I be able to tap it all over with a key and not damage the phone, and if I throw it in a box of coins, will all the phone be safe from scratches and chips - just like the ipod?
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Lets get this straight....I haven't used this product...however when I saw the "link" I went to the manufacturers site to get a better understanding of it....
I watched the video and while it was of it being fitted to an ipod I got a basic understanding of how it could be fitted to a P3600i.
I didn't think it was "cling wrap", I understood that there would be several sections involved....including one for the recessed screen (yes, just like a normal screen protector) and I too would be skeptical of it protecting all parts of the phone.
There is a tendency in these forums for people to not search out information but to ask seemingly dumb questions.....
As this product is new for this model....why not just ask if anyone has tried it or ask the manufacturer for more information.....or is that too hard to do????
NOT FULL BODY...JUST SCREEN ONLY
The site says full body not Screen only, that's a separate option...
I would really like to know if and how exactly this works on 3600.
I actually have silicon case and screen protector for mine, but this would make it considerably smaller...
Bought and use the InvisibleShield
Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
I want to see it
Post a picture please
Isn't it invisible?..
See the invisible sheet
Well actually it is quit difficult to see but here are some picures. The picture from the side shows you some edges.
Edges
The edges that you can see in the pic don't seem to line up perfectly, how were the dimensions on the rest of the edges?
i've been thinkin of getting one of these since i saw them for ipods but that messy edge is scaring me away a little, also how are you finding the screen protector after a little more use?
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Well the edges are more because of my talent I think. The reason why I showed you this is because at least you can see something. For the rest it alligns perfectly.
After using it for a while it still seems a great product. I accidentaly dropped the thing but no scratch at all. What you do notice is the slightly more pressure you need when using the stylo. Also the screen protector is not as smooth as the original screen making the sliding a little more difficult. Also the plastic sticks to your ear while calling. But all in all still recommended.
I just put it onto the white one...
...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
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...and it is invisible. You can see it only on buttons' silver surrounding, on white parts only the edges are visible if you try really hard. I haven't got a good enough camera to show it, sorry.
It has a sticky feeling about it (maybe needs to dry more?). I don't like it on the screen - feels sticky and thick. I'd say use a decent screen protector instead.
It came WITH the cut-out for a camera (it's 3600i shield, I've got 3600), so it fits like a glove.
Oh, it's not a stress-free, low pressure 15 minutes application like they advertise it. It's fekkin pain in the ar$e one hour job, you're swetting your ar$e off. And - I guess - you can never get it perfect at the end. There will always be a bubble or misaligned edge somewhere (or is it me?).
Long term use review to follow.
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Any update to report? I'm thinking about buying one and would like your oppinion since you've now had it for a while.
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Folks,
I bought it and had it send to Holland. Took about 1 to 2 weeks but ok I am not in a hurry.
The full body covers basically all the shiny black plastic plus the screen. The rest (middles of the sides and the front keys) are not covered. Also offcourse the camera, speakers etc are not covered. However, and this is probably the difference between P3600 and P3600i the front camara is covered by the shield blurring the image. Now I have already put it on the camera but the next time I would use a hole puncher to add the extra hole. I probably will use a sharp hobby knife to cut an extra hole (on the other hand I never use video conferencing).
The plastic is more stronger and thicker then normal screen protectors. Haven't tried to scratch it on pupose and guess what I am not going to do it. If a scratch forms by accident I will mention it here.
The screen takes some getting used to with the new cover. The plastic does not "slide" as easy as the original screen protector or the screen itself. Maybe this is just in the first period.
The application process it pretty easy if you just take the time. Takes about 30 minutes if you do it slowly. Only 2 minor bubbles on the back but those are not really an issue, the rest is perfect.
Hey for 20 euro's I think it is a good deal. No horrible rubber case or GPS blocking metal case for me anymore. Only downside is that if the phone is dropped now there is no protection. This is only against scratches.
Lifetime guarantee so lets see how often I have to send it back.
All in all recommended so far (but that is just after 1 day of use)
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Same question for you... Any updates? Thank you...
Definately recommended
After using it a few months I still think it is definately worth the few euro's. Ok it sticks a bit when calling for a long time and I think I even managed to get a small scratch on it but I sort of abuse the fact that I have the shield. Store it with keys, never use a case etc.
No I have bought some useless accessoires such as aluminium case (blocks GPS) and the remote for mediaplayer but the shield I would really recommend.
Cheers,
Dimitri.
Despite being careful, my screen is increasingly getting scratched. The scratches are only noticeable when the device is off (thank goodness).
If there are any other persons with the same problem, please post here.
I guess that you did not use a screen protector, right?
Correct. I also own a TyTn II and have no issues with the screen whatsoever. Of all the devices I have owned over the years, only this TC has been an issue.
I was noticing the same so applied the included screen protector... I usually don't bother as I don't like them and the device is a throwaway after a year anyway so it's not a big deal. But in this case I figured if it was like that after a few weeks then after 6 months I'd probably not be able to see the screen!
I've had a few Palm devices before i switched to WM and i noticed this scratching as well......Luckily i'm using the included protector.
I have to say on my previous Palms i didn't have this problem, also while using a protector, which makes me suspect that the stylus is the real problem here.
Any thoughts on this?
I use the screen protector, and also got some spares. I also cover the whoel device with a liquid "screen" protector to helpthe faces from getting ruined. So far so good
Problem with the Touch Cruise (Polaris...) is, that the screen is - unlike the Kaiser's - flat and not indent. This means, its exposed to EVERYTHING it touches. Thus chances are higher you'll get one or two scratches once in a while.
Second thing which I can only cite other ppl on other forums: those Polaris allegedly have a softer top layer to be able to operate the unit using only your finger. This would support catching scratches as well...
I'd use the protector. It's a shame having scratches on that mirrored surface.
Schaggo, can you indicate what other forums people are commenting about the screen?
I am interested in your view that the top layer is softer than most others.
i agree that the stylus is the problem ... to much thin... , i tried one from nintendo ds , it's much more rounded and it slide better ( sorry for my english...)
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i agree that the stylus is the problem ...
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Yeah, I'm using one from my old IPAQ !
ou guys use other styluses? I use my finger, thats what the Touch series should be made for I know it doesnt really work, the fonts are way too small...
Hicksville, I cannot judge what the other ppl say because I used the protector right away. Nothing ever touched my screen without the protector applied. But as I got it, the top film seems to be made of a softer material than the one of other WM devices. Reason for that is the reason for the "Touch" in the devices name: to make the touch layer register the actual point, where the finger tries to point at. If the top layer would be harder/stiffer it allegedly cant tell where exactly the finger tried to hit the screen because the area involved ('touched' eg. pressed down) would be bigger than with a soft top layer. Thats what I got and which makes some sense.
And logically a soft surface is more prone to be 'hurt' than a surface made of hard material. So I guess this might be connected. But I have to repeat, these are all assumptions by users and in no way official statements.
I've been using my phone w/o a screen protector, and I haven't gotten any scratches. Like schaggo I mainly use my finger. I did however test the screen by applying a lot of pressure with the stylus in a sweeping motion, and I didn't get any scratches (don't ask me what possessed me to try this). I later tried a much more conclusive scratch test on a CDMA Touch unit in a store on both the screen and the body and got no scratches! Yes, I applied a lot of pressure, (However, someone else had managed to put a scratch on the CDMA Touch's screen, but that scratch was really deep and probably done with a really sharp object; on the other hand, I did my testing with my TC stylus). I coudln't scratch both the body or the screen using a lot of pressure from my stylus and my nails. Maybe some of you exposed the TC to coins or keys inadvertantly?
That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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That's pretty gutsy to test it on your own device. I am using the screen protector and I have a few scratches on that which is fine. When the time comes, I'll replace it with a new protector. As far as the rest of the case, I have been very careful so far with my device and haven't gotten any scratches anywhere on it. I think that suede/rubber whatever feel of the device is nice but I think it will scratch.
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Yes, very gutsy, I pushed hard enough to watch the screen sink it and rise back up very slowly...I don't know what I was thinking, but hey it turned out well w/o any scratches. The plastic on the screen is a lot stronger than your typical screen protector, so that fact along with my tests pretty much confirmed it for me. Furthermore, I don't like the look of screen protectors and I'm worried that they'll hinder touch flow.
As far as the casing, it seems bulletproof. But I'm like you, I keep it in the oem suede/microfiber case whenever its not being held to my ear for a phone call, and I've never put it in a pocket with anything else.
Actually with the suede comment I was talking about the body of the actual device. I'm not sure what that is but it has a nice texture to it. I haven't used that pouch that came in the package. Not a big fan of it. Head on over to the acc forum to see which cases people like. As far as the screen protector goes the original one does not hinder touch capabilities. Also in the acc forum they discuss different screen protectors, you might wanna check out one of those as well.
Just thought I would warn others that after only a week of owning my cool TP I noticed a scratch on the screen and button area. A very straight score down the middle. Lucky I had my screen protector fitted else I would have been very upset.
Replaced the protector a week ago and today noticed a similar score down the screen though less deep. I then realised that this was due to a piece of grit in my pocket that had slipped between the case and the screen and scratched it as I pulled it out of the case.
I have now ordered a proper fully closed case to give full protection and hope this is a warning to others!
Definitely invest in a screen protector, they don't spoil the look of the device or impede it's usability in any way, they are easy to apply and could save you a lot of tears! Then use a decent case!
am using martin fields protectors.... it is tough enough that when i dropped my phone on the stairs, the rest of the body is scratched except the screen area and hkey areas where it is protected.
i frequently use my fingernails too. i don't trust other screen protectors... used it for my previous Axim v51 and X500 ... device gave out before the protectors.. meh.
alpha01 said:
am using martin fields protectors.... it is tough enough that when i dropped my phone on the stairs, the rest of the body is scratched except the screen area and hkey areas where it is protected.
i frequently use my fingernails too. i don't trust other screen protectors... used it for my previous Axim v51 and X500 ... device gave out before the protectors.. meh.
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Yes I was definitely satisfied with the Martin Fields solution, which I've reviewed on my Diamond. Will order one for my new TP as well.
The review is in Hebrew and was published here (with some photos)..
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00007709.htm
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I saw someone scratch the screen protector on their Touch Pro right in front of me, he had just put the screen protector on it and put it into his case, it was one of those that holds it right on your hip... Took it back out, exactly what you're talking about, a nice line right across the screen.
If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
I have just got hold of the HTC Touch Standard belt pouch (PN: PO S322) and it fits perfectly with a standard belt clip.
Velcro so the Sliding magnetic keyboard sensor does not go T^Ts up!!
anyone know where i can get extra protectors for my tp?
Personally, I always keep my TP in my pocket, without a case. The only time I ever use a case is if I'm putting the phone into a bag or box with other gear which might scratch it. Also, I never put keys etc into the same pocket as the TP, only a handkerchief. I've kept phones this way for many years and never got a single scratch on my screen. The inside of your pocket is generally a nice soft place for your phone. Case not necessary! In fact, all the case does is muffle the speaker and make it harder for you to hear the phone ringing.
In fact, until I got my TP I never even used screen protectors. The only reason I'm using one now is because it came in the box!
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anyone know where i can get extra protectors for my tp?
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Where are you based?
ardsar said:
If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
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I haven't noticed the difference in the sides. I have been using this case for about a month and haven't seen any signs of scratching to the screen (although I have a screen protector on) or any other part.
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anyone know where i can get extra protectors for my tp?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428279
ardsar said:
If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
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I agree with you. I always feel where the smooth side is and make sure that its the one facing the screen when I'm sliding my TP inside the leather case. So far I never had any scratches on mine.
I have noticed a small cut in my plastic (I haven´t taken of the large piece of plastic that came on then phone). From the middle of the screen and down to the edge.
I don´t get it! That folded ribbon ain´t sharp, it´s just wide, how the heck can it leave a cut like a scalpel? The other smooth side has a sharp thing in the seam, that could possibly cut but I really don´t think so.
I´m scared now, because there is a cut but nothing in the pouch can cut!
I just ordered one of these and recived it today.
Top pouch tbh
ebay
Item number: 270278860452
Mr.Sir said:
I have noticed a small cut in my plastic (I haven´t taken of the large piece of plastic that came on then phone). From the middle of the screen and down to the edge.
I don´t get it! That folded ribbon ain´t sharp, it´s just wide, how the heck can it leave a cut like a scalpel? The other smooth side has a sharp thing in the seam, that could possibly cut but I really don´t think so.
I´m scared now, because there is a cut but nothing in the pouch can cut!
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Exactly!! Same happened to me. A very straight deep cut, saved only by the screen protector. I could only assume that a piece of grit got trapped between the sleeve and the phone. This wouldn't happen in an ordinary case, the pouch fits very tightly against the screen and this is where the danger lies. I have stopped using it.
Hello,
Until this morning I was using the screen protector that came with my Pro. And I don't mean the bundled protector you can apply yourself, but the one that comes applied while shipping lol.
But I did that because I know protectors are very very hard to put on without bubbles and dust, and it was indeed hard, I spend around 40 minutes to apply it.
The protector I'm using now is a Brando one, which I think it's excellent, from all the people who saw my phone today there wasn't a single one who noticed the protector.
Anyway, what I wanted to ask is that this only protects the screen itself, so the bottom touch panel is unprotected. Should I leave it like this? If not, what are my options?
One thing I noticed is that when I removed the original protector from the panel, I can finally use camera focus, so even if I use some kind of protection, I will probably need a hole for the center button.
The main reason I'm asking is because I read here some people saying the home and back buttons are peeling off, and I definitely don't want that to happen.
Oh, and no, using cases or any kind of outer protection is not an option. Phones are made to be pocket devices.
Thanks.
I have the zagg shield on and it covers the entire bottom plate plus the center button. Feels great and dont even know its there, no problem with the capacitive touch. Only problem is its on the expensive side, and the screen protector part is useless
Boxwave.
I have used many protectors over many phones. The Boxwave (there are two, I prefer the non-Anti-Glare one) is the most scratch-resistant I have used. For the Fuze (Touch Pro) it comes with the piece for the bottom (with a hole). I notice no degradation in sensitivity of the scroll wheel to zoom in Opera or to actually scroll in other apps. I wish it came with a piece for over the camera port, but that may not work on the brushed aluminum trim that is there.
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Hello people
The membrane on my touch pro (the one covering the buttons below the screen) is starting to peel off. Its almost unnoticeable at the moment, smaller than a millimeter but it seems it could go off more
Apart from getting some sort of case (i.e. a silicone one) anything else I could do in order to avoid it?
Should I just peel it completely off just to get it off my mind?!
It will keep peeling. Especially from pulling and putting back in your pocket. Its VERY common.
2 options
1 replace the entire button pad. (pretty cheap on ebay)
2 take a small bit of super glue to the corners to keep it from curling up. (looks a little ugly because the corners will still be discolored from being peeled in the first place.)
Ive thought about peeling the entire thing off, but not sure if it would have any negative effects.
Additionally, duct tape works wonders I hear...