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Everything is stock , no overclocking or anything like that
Is that a surprise? isn't sensation better than Nexus? or am i wrong?
Benchmark tests don't always tell the truth.
Tired of those benchmark noobs.
ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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The Snapdragon S4 based phones disagree
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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I'm not saying that is the best dual core XD is just the best of the dual generation, (2011 production)...obviously now are coming out more performant cpu, but I'm talking about the 2011 phones...
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Best dual core phone, in your opinion
It's not a fact.
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ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
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When did you use a Galaxy Nexus? It's never been laggy.
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this thread is so lol
first of all 2700 is low
second of all, that quadrant graph has not been updated since they added dual/quad core support
so thats galaxy nexus running 1 core test
check my screenshot for some sensation power, 1512mhz gets 3700 points
was with openSensation btw
My phone just sucks in benchmarks . Quadrant cant get over 3000 mark. Antutu usaly 6800+ on 1.5 ghz. But no lag in programs and in the interface, but seeing this score im thinking something is not ok with it.
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Lmao... I have bolth Sensation (my wife's) and the SGS 2.. and yes the pyramid is a good phone. It lacks a good bit in 3D performance ..
I know the 2 devices have the same S3 chip set but Sammy definitely did better implementing it.. Though I tend to not trust quadrant I score over 3200 with no overclock on my SGS 2.. just saying .. not to mention my buddy has a GNex and that shiz is fast...
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On ics 3D performance is deem good on sensation. Gta 3 max setting = no lag
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FreakyDR said:
Pikabat I axpected more from you =\ as you can see in the benchmark the nexus have much better CPU (the blue stat) and sensation only have better I/o (the green one) which is obvious why... So no, sensation isn't faster...
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Sorry to disappoint you bro
Believe it or not I prefer higher I/O because I deal with large file transfers.
Benchmark may not be accurate 100% but I used both devices and Sensation is faster. For me anyways
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Its inflation. Quadrant is notorious for this. R/RW speed between the current devicesis pretty much the same, especially when they are all on custom ext4 partitions .. Hence why you can run 4 benchmarks and get 4 different scores .. notice the CPU and graphics numbers don't really flux to much...
Hate to break it to you bro. But the Sensation will never be faster than a GNex or any SGS 2 version. Don't get me wrong I love the device. But it is what it is..
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ok, forget the benchmark...
I tried a galaxy nexus...is very very very laggy, is not even smooth or fast...
our sensation is the best smartphone of the dual core generation (we are switching now on quad generation), better than sgs2 too!....
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lol. My brother has a galaxy nexus and it's not how you describe. It's pretty fast and very smooth.
I m from europe but galaxy nexus what is in usa that lte version is lagy like hell. For many peopls
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Who gives a F**k.
We have what we have, be happy! Its not about the size of your e-penis, its the fleshy one that counts.
Enjoy
you all realize that quadrant is only good for comparing devices with the same screen resolution, right?
The Gnex is running at a much higher resolution and becuase of that the scores will be lower in Quadrant.
Quadrant runs at the phones native resolution so the gnex has to work harder... I cant believe people still use this as their proof....
So I was looking up on online stores which sell One S....and nowhere the specify what version it is, S3 or S4. So how do I know online that is the phone is S3 OR S4 before thinking to order it.
If I'm not mistaken, S3 has internal memory of 1.2 GB and S4 has 16GB ?
Thanx in advance
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No they both have 16gb. And there is little difference in performance its not even noticeable.
The only thing you should keep in mind the s3 version doesn't have sense 4.1 yet but the s4 version does.
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No above post is wrong there is a big difference between the two s3 is is using the older chip (s3 chip) and has been over clocked to 1.7 GHz it is a lot slower compared to the s4 version and quadrant scores vary a lot. Do not get the s3 version Its not worth the money you can get a better phone for the price. However if you can get the s4 version get it because the phone is amazing you can tell which one is which because s4 version has msm8960 processor and is 1.5ghz ... DO NOT GET THE S3 ONE.... There are not even many devs working on it and is a terrible phone
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No above post is wrong there is a big difference between the two s3 is is using the older chip (s3 chip) and has been over clocked to 1.7 GHz it is a lot slower compared to the s4 version and quadrant scores vary a lot. Do not get the s3 version Its not worth the money you can get a better phone for the price. However if you can get the s4 version get it because the phone is amazing you can tell which one is which because s4 version has msm8960 processor and is 1.5ghz ... DO NOT GET THE S3 ONE.... There are not even many devs working on it and is a terrible phone
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Thanx will keep that in mind...thanx for information :highfive:
Well I have an s4 and my brother has an s3 and believe me there is almost no difference... Have u ever compared the to I don't think u have lol.
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Well I have an s4 and my brother has an s3 and believe me there is almost no difference... Have u ever compared the to I don't think u have lol.
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Haha go do a quadrant test on both phones clearly u know nothing about phones
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I had both phones and can say S3 performance is very bad compared to S4. Phone is much slower, UI stucks and is very laggy. Don't buy it.
I have S3 version. And tested S4 version too. Despite there is no noticable differantiation about their performance, dont buy S3 version. Because there will be always update issues about S3 version as we seen here, S3 versions are still not updated to 4.0.4 while S4 versions got.
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Haha go do a quadrant test on both phones clearly u know nothing about phones
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Actually its you mate, you shouldn't look into numbers so much, going through the ui the galaxy nexus with jelly bean runs smother than most phones but yet quadrant is only like 2000..... Numbers mean **** its down to real world performance. If you go on the one x forum you will see a lot of people saying it has lag in areas the one s doesn't yet it has better quadrant. Numbers mean nothing its down to real world and you really cant make an argument for a device you have never used.
I'm getting confused now with varying opinions
and my original question is....how do i know the phone is S3 or S4. Sense 4 and 4.1 is one of them but i cant check it before i buy it even in a store....and the processor is different. Anymore ?
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Actually its you mate, you shouldn't look into numbers so much, going through the ui the galaxy nexus with jelly bean runs smother than most phones but yet quadrant is only like 2000..... Numbers mean **** its down to real world performance. If you go on the one x forum you will see a lot of people saying it has lag in areas the one s doesn't yet it has better quadrant. Numbers mean nothing its down to real world and you really cant make an argument for a device you have never used.
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I'm not even going to have this argument with u lol no point ur a noob even the two people above agree s3 sucks
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S3 units suck, no customizing with not enough experiance because most devs only support S4 units.
they releasing one update after other for S4 but for S3 units only two custom roms exists.
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S3 units suck, no customizing with not enough experiance because most devs only support S4 units.
they releasing one update after other for S4 but for S3 units only two custom roms exists.
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Thank you lol so that's everyone agreeing with me there is only one idiot clewis who talks from his ****
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So all the benchmark charts I see people posting up have numbers that blow Mine away. I've briefly read about them but don't really understand what makes one better than the other. So can anyone, someone give me the trade secrets on how to improve this??? Thanks in advance.
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Are you on AOSP? It looks like it from your status bar.
Basically Samsung "cheats" benchmarks on touchwiz ROMs. So on a TW ROM I'll score around 6k but on AOSP I'll get around 4-5k depending on overclock and whatnot.
Actual performance wise AOSP seems faster.
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Yea I'm on AOSP. So are my numbers decent? And are there any ways to improve?. Phone doesn't seem slow but I feel it can be a bit faster. How can I achieve that? Thanks
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Quadrant doesn't mean anything. Performance should be based on how the phone reacts to daily use and not an app.
If you want the score to increase, overclock the kernel. Know that this is bad on the battery and will cause premature failure of you stress the processor too much.
Seriously, benchmarks mean nothing. I had a DNA and the benchmarks were insane but the phone didn't feel as "fast" as the numbers were saying.
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So As long as there aren't any crippling bugs and what I use daily is operable I shouldn't worry about benchmarks? I'll take that and roll with it. And I appreciate the help
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So As long as there aren't any crippling bugs and what I use daily is operable I shouldn't worry about benchmarks? I'll take that and roll with it. And I appreciate the help
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Exactly. I get lower benchmarks on AOSP as opposed to TW but I get better performance. Logic? None.
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All input has been much appreciated. Thank you kind sirs :thumbup:
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Hey guys i have made another video for those who are confused b/w S4 or ONE
Here is the speed and multitasking Comparison:
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Hope you guys will love it and also i am helpful in buying the right one!
Which versions of the fw are you running? I've noticed a huge diversity in hangups/stutters and "lag" on the s4.
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Which versions of the fw are you running? I've noticed a huge diversity in hangups/stutters and "lag" on the s4.
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The latest stock version!
No idea what is latest. And as far as I know from reports, it seems the Scandinavian xxuame2 is less laggy than others (that's my current one btw) and that some areas has a different version as it's latest version.
See my confusion =) ?
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I compared i9505 and HTC One side by side, and One was smoother. I guess SGS4 doesnt have well optimized software yet.
Perhaps. Or the sw you have isn't the best version they've made so far. As mentioned, it differs from region to region it seems.
Can't say I feel a huge difference between my 920 snd my s4 in terms of smoothness. And 920 is pretty damn smooth.
The again it could be my fw contra yours that makes the difference.
So basically I think it's hard to compare one to s4 since there's several totally different "latest sw" on the market. Probably for both phones.
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The HTC One is noticeably smoother than the S4, no doubt.
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In the age old battle of HTC vs Samsung I can almost guarantee history will repeat. Samsung always comes out on top with better hardware, firmware, updates ect.. So yeah, maybe a stock ONE is slightly smoother than a stock S4 but give developers some time we'll see who takes prize.
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Just sold my HTC One device and kept my 9500, I thought the HTC One was a pretty boring device...
I have done the comparisons myself for the sake of what to keep, and all of them reviews and comparisons and not real, what is real is what I like not what others show me. Lags and whatever do not bother if I have to give up 50% of the value add features I get with the S4.
Big regrets to spend the money on the HTC One....
Thanks
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Perhaps. Or the sw you have isn't the best version they've made so far. As mentioned, it differs from region to region it seems.
Can't say I feel a huge difference between my 920 snd my s4 in terms of smoothness. And 920 is pretty damn smooth.
The again it could be my fw contra yours that makes the difference.
So basically I think it's hard to compare one to s4 since there's several totally different "latest sw" on the market. Probably for both phones.
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I personally think that samsung went with 4.2.2 which is buggy and slight laggy by itself. They also had less time to optimize the firmware. I have a lot of hopes that the s4 firmware will be optimized as much as the htc one in terms of performance.
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Might be something off with the 9500 and it's sw?
Not sure what the bugs in 4.2.2 are, haven't encountered any so far that I've noticed.
Maybe I got lucky with having my fw or maybe I'm just oblivious. I don't know.
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The multi tasking on the HTC One seemed faster because the SGS4 has the slow stock multi tasking animation which was introduced in 4.2.2.
Turn off all animations in developer options and see which is faster
Many are saying that the S4 IS HAVING SOFTWARE ISSUES BUT ALSO see that htc one is running 4.1.2 and maybe in 4.2.2 it will be more better!!
In my case here.. I asked my self what exactly do I want in a phone.. Build quality over functionality? Boom sound over 5inches screen? In the s4 I really got functionality while d one looks like a fast HTC X.. In terms of pixels, u can't differentiate cos anything over 400ppi is awesome. I hardly listen to music with the outer speakers so boom sound is not my thing. With the Samsung s4 I'm never bored. Games performance and bench marks kills the one. It's all about individual choice.
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In my case here.. I asked my self what exactly do I want in a phone.. Build quality over functionality? Boom sound over 5inches screen? In the s4 I really got functionality while d one looks like a fast HTC X.. In terms of pixels, u can't differentiate cos anything over 400ppi is awesome. I hardly listen to music with the outer speakers so boom sound is not my thing. With the Samsung s4 I'm never bored. Games performance and bench marks kills the one. It's all about individual choice.
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How do you feel the One is better than the s4 in functionality?
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Wrong, its much better implemented then flipboard could ever be.
S4 for me:
5 vs 4.7 on the same candy bar size, while being lighter.
When I decided there was no One Google version.
Having handled both for a while the One lost its "better quality" moniker. I don't like the feeling of carrying a metallic object in my pocket. It is nice to look at, but felt like a foreign object even holding it. And by the way the One is not that "premium" of a construction. Polished aluminum is not as nice as polished stainless steel (as seen on expensive watches)
Bottom line if the one was last year's flagship, it would have been an excellent choice. Now the s4 is simply better.
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5 vs 4.7 on the same candy bar size, while being lighter.
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Not even the same size. One is actually a little taller with a smaller screen.
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Most people that uses the one primary got it cos the built. I prefer the s4 cos of the functionality. The one came with a blinkfeed same thing as flip board. There is nothing new in the one period.
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Ah but the build quality of the One is far worse than the quality of the s4. Thats why I thought you meant the s4 was the build quality and the One the functionality.
Harder to fix when damaged.
More prone to disfigurement upon impact.
Apparently quite a few phones are received with gaps in the chassis.
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Its a matter of opinion. Thats it.
Touchwiz is nice, especially on the S3 and above. I immediately install Nova or Apex over Touchwiz.
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Is apex good
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First off, get your facts straight. Touchwiz isn't a launcher, it's a framework, a UI if you will. It's more than a pesky easily-replaced launcher.
And it's a matter of personal preference. Some like the Touchwiz UI and some don't. I tend to favor the cleanliness, sleekness, smoothness and intuitiveness of a good aosp rom.
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You know what's great? We don't need to have these debates any more. Like TW? Leave your device alone. Like AOSP(ish), buy a GE device or flash the GE ROM. AOSP vs. a skin is like trying to debate which religion is best. There is no right answer and people will go to war defending their individual opinions and biases.
Apex is the best
With the pro version is osum
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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So what are your suggesting? Close the S4 forum and stop rooting cause the S4 sold 20 mil without the need of root? Help me understand please thanks.
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Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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I will root if my carrier decides to block tethering on the phone.
I will root to remove apps that came with the phone, but I do not want.
I will root to backup all the settings and data on my phone that I normally cant backup if I did not root.
I will root if I want to use a modified kernel to give me better battery life.
I will root to install call recording features that dont come with the phone.
Rooting is much more than just changing the UI... you are also able to change the nuts and bolts of the system to make it work the way you want because sometimes the carrier or samsung itself wont make things the way you like.
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Hack Xda said:
Why root I think samsung sold 20 million units its not rooted or on a rom if it was then would us samsung people sell so many S4 hansets be touched love touchwiz
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Samsung sold 20mil because it's fan base is similar to apple's, they target the same type of consumers. The majority of those who bought an s4 did it for the wrong reasons (there are always exceptions of course). Having the latest galaxy flagship is nearly equal to having the latest iphone nowadays, according to some people's "social standards".
Despite the fact that samsung phone's quality is questionable, sudden death on s3 and note (actually had it on my s3, and believe me it was a really frustrating experience), burn in amoled displays (had it on my galaxy nexus), smearing on s4, and many other problems these phones usually have. of course not to forget samsung's ability to produce lag in a 1.9ghz quad/2gb ram hardware and cheap build quality.. But still these phones sell, just shows you that with good marketing and publicity you can sell anything.
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I think everyone should just get a Note 2. Now that is one solid tight phone. Haven't been this satisfied with a phone since chocolate dipped macarons. Great battery life, solid build etc.
I cant believe i'd ever say this, but I was really put off by the S4 on paper, and even more so after playing with it for a while. So much lag everywhere etc.
Troll?
You're asking "why root?" on a site dedicated to development and customization, usually via rooting.
"not rooted or on a rom" then how does the phone work without a rom...?
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American Idol had 21 million viewers. By your logic that should be the only thing on TV from now on.
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Thread closed as its going absolutely nowhere.