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Need a second android phone

Greetings all,
Just got an S3. Getting to know it and like it a lot.
I need a second android phone for my business line. Considered the Google Nexus but heard mixed reviews. Any ideas?
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Motorola Droid Razr Max HD

HTC One X would be a good choice!
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I'd get the razor Maxx
Gs3

Never thought I'd say this but since it is for a business line I say go with anything from the Motorola Droid RAZR line.The signal quality on those are superb and since its business I'm sure that's most important.
I would've recommended the Galaxy Nexus but I use to have a huge struggle with maintaining signal. I went through 5 gnex until they offered to give me a gs3 and I took it. I know plenty of people that use to have the issue didn't have it anymore once they flashed those recent jelly bean radios but there were also some like myself that still had the problem.
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xvitality said:
HTC One X would be a good choice!
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No offense to you personally, but I couldn't see getting an Android phone whose multitasking has been crippled, with a unibody design that makes battery replacement difficult and no SD card slot.
I'd still get it above an iPhone because it's essentially been whittled down to iPhone limitations with the size and OS we expect from contemporary Android phones, but within the Android product lines it's not something I'd seek out above others. If their JB update fixes the multitasking limitations, I could more easily see it as a second phone, though.
If I needed a second phone that wasn't necessarily in the GS3 class and dev wasn't an immediate goal, I might try out the Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
My $0.02.
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RAZR maxx or if you waited the RAZR maxx hd

Farewell Thunderbolt!

Looks like my mecha days are over. Just wanted to drop a thanks to all the developers who tried (granted the lack of support by HTC) to keep this device updated. Not only the developers I owe my gratitude to, but as well as the community who guided me in the right direction.
I received my out-of-brand replacement Droid RAZR yesterday and have already gotten some ROM's on there (jelly bean woo woo!)... What a BIG difference in development I must say as far as ROM's go.
Big thanks again,
PEACE!

How do you have custom ROMs on a moto device like a RAZR? Isn't it all "screw them hackers" locked down bootloader?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.

Dannar said:
How do you have custom ROMs on a moto device like a RAZR? Isn't it all "screw them hackers" locked down bootloader?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Actually yeah, the bootloader is locked. When I received the Razr as a replacement, I was wondering the same thing. They have a nifty work around actually. The bootloader pretty much locks in the current OS and kernel so that it can't be wiped (or heavily modified) from the device...
What has been done is that a developer took TWRP and modified it so it works with the bootloader. It shelves the OS's on different partitions, but keeps your stock MOTO ROM on the phone (untouched). Right now I have 2 other ROM's installed on my phone that I can interchange during a reboot. I actually prefer this to unlocking the bootloader and clearing my phone completely. For any reason I ever need to call Verizon, unrooting my phone is almost 10 easier.

No changeable battery
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I've been looking at jumping to a new phone from my T-Bolt but I also don't want to lose my grandfathered unlimited on VZW.

My upgrade is later this month too. I'm just not sure which phone I should go with. Right now I'm debating between getting the Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD or the soon to be announced HTC Droid DNA. That new HTC phone looks like a powerhouse! You guys have any suggestions?

Dannar said:
How do you have custom ROMs on a moto device like a RAZR? Isn't it all "screw them hackers" locked down bootloader?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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volfan22 said:
My upgrade is later this month too. I'm just not sure which phone I should go with. Right now I'm debating between getting the Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD or the soon to be announced HTC Droid DNA. That new HTC phone looks like a powerhouse! You guys have any suggestions?
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Well let's put it this way - I didn't pay anything. They sent me this as a replacement for my Thunderbolt, not an upgrade.

volfan22 said:
My upgrade is later this month too. I'm just not sure which phone I should go with. Right now I'm debating between getting the Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD or the soon to be announced HTC Droid DNA. That new HTC phone looks like a powerhouse! You guys have any suggestions?
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I'd recommend the HTC DNA. I've upgraded my Thunderbolt tot he GS3, then returned it the next day, and when the MAXX HD came out I upgraded to that but returned it the following week. I haven't found a phone that I enjoy like I have the Thunderbolt, each phone has major compromises. My cousin has the HTC One X and it's an absolutely gorgeous device, the camera is great and the display is unmatched. I'm hoping the DNA will be my next phone.

geoff5093 said:
I'd recommend the HTC DNA. I've upgraded my Thunderbolt tot he GS3, then returned it the next day, and when the MAXX HD came out I upgraded to that but returned it the following week. I haven't found a phone that I enjoy like I have the Thunderbolt, each phone has major compromises. My cousin has the HTC One X and it's an absolutely gorgeous device, the camera is great and the display is unmatched. I'm hoping the DNA will be my next phone.
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I was about to poop my pants when you mentioned that you returned your GS3.... then decided to go and do some research on the DNA and again, nearly pooped my pants. The DNA looks absolutely AMAZING.
This is what got me going:
- Super LCD 3
- 440 PPI (full 1080p res 1920 x 1080)
- Expandable microSD (thank GOD!! manufactures are deterring the option of SD to create a heavier price market for mobile devices; ex. Samsung GS3)
- 2,020 mAh
- JellyBean 4.1 STOCK
- Bezel Thin Display (for those who don't know, the LCD will cover the entire phone leaving little, to no borders)
DEAL MAKER!
- Snapdragon S4 Pro Quad-Core

ALSO, failed to mention it has 5 inch display, 2GB of RAM, and a 16GB internal storage (which I assume might have variations of: 16, 32, etc..)

geoff5093 said:
I'd recommend the HTC DNA. I've upgraded my Thunderbolt tot he GS3, then returned it the next day, and when the MAXX HD came out I upgraded to that but returned it the following week. I haven't found a phone that I enjoy like I have the Thunderbolt, each phone has major compromises. My cousin has the HTC One X and it's an absolutely gorgeous device, the camera is great and the display is unmatched. I'm hoping the DNA will be my next phone.
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feered said:
I was about to poop my pants when you mentioned that you returned your GS3.... then decided to go and do some research on the DNA and again, nearly pooped my pants. The DNA looks absolutely AMAZING.
This is what got me going:
- Super LCD 3
- 440 PPI (full 1080p res 1920 x 1080)
- Expandable microSD (thank GOD!! manufactures are deterring the option of SD to create a heavier price market for mobile devices; ex. Samsung GS3)
- 2,020 mAh
- JellyBean 4.1 STOCK
- Bezel Thin Display (for those who don't know, the LCD will cover the entire phone leaving little, to no borders)
DEAL MAKER!
- Snapdragon S4 Pro Quad-Core
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feered said:
ALSO, failed to mention it has 5 inch display, 2GB of RAM, and a 16GB internal storage (which I assume might have variations of: 16, 32, etc..)
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Yeah I know guys it seems legit! Regarding those specs, that battery is supposed to be bumped up to 2500 mAh so that should help a little. I just hope battery life is good on this device. That was one of the Thunderbolt's major problems. Of course all of these ROMS helped with that and I just got spare batteries so it isn't a problem anymore for me though.... The Droid DNA looks amazing though! I can't wait for it. I just hope they are able to unlock the bootloader if it is locked so we can but some stock 4.2 on it!

Droid Razr HD general impressions and international usage

I'm currently using a HTC one X but the poor Wifi battery life and the lack of SD card slot(or storage space in general) is really starting to get to me and this particular "gem" stood out from the crowd as it had both boxes ticked and had had a nice design to boot.
Okay so far from what I can tell the bootloader is locked but has been bypassed like the XT912 (which I owned for a brief period of time) am I correct in saying this?
How does this compare to the original XT912?
Has anyone tried using this internationally? How did it fare?

I switched from a One X (international) on AT&T to the RAZR HD in Verizon. The battery life of the RAZR is phenomenal. Yesterday I did over 41 hours with 4 hours of screen on time...simply unheard of with the One X. Personally I'm not going to fiddle with this phone (I ran CM10 on my One X) for quite a while. Looking forward to a stock JB experience soon.
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phobos512 said:
I switched from a One X (international) on AT&T to the RAZR HD in Verizon. The battery life of the RAZR is phenomenal. Yesterday I did over 41 hours with 4 hours of screen on time...simply unheard of with the One X. Personally I'm not going to fiddle with this phone (I ran CM10 on my One X) for quite a while. Looking forward to a stock JB experience soon.
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sounds... good, I find myself charging at mid day If I leave the Wifi on my One-X on and it is getting irritating, the lack of storage space is also a large issue. I don't mod my phone terribly often but I will try to remove that terrible bloatware.
Does this still open up a Verizon ad every time you plug the USB into the computer?

How about the international usage ? Did anyone use this verizon razr hd in europe with local sim cards ?

Haven't plugged my phone into a computer, and haven't used it overseas yet but it is unlocked for foreign SIM cards.
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Should I trade for a Droid Razr HD?

Straight trade. I need opinions by the morning.
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i would never do that.

Hold onto your S3 , I honestly think you'd be losing out on this one
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Thanks guys, that's how I was feeling too.

The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.

I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2

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The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.
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Not even the Note 2?
DertyDOH said:
I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2
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Have you tried any custom roms?
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Locked bootloaders suck!

For a non max hd? Never. For a razr hd maxx. Yes
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I'd probably do it for the maxx if development picks up.
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If you were to, then definitely go w/ the MAXX. I personally wouldn't trade at all. Best Android on the market based on size and feel.

I'd definitely stick with the S3.
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GS3 or GN2, anything else is a downgrade!

Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!

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Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!
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Yeah, I had the atrix and atrix 2 over on at&t (Atrices?) and the locked bootloader always pissed me off. That's what I love about Samsung, there will never not be a new rom to try.
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I'm with the others, certainly wouldn't do a straight trade.

A HD MAXX probably but not the HD. The camera is pretty bad though.
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syoungblood95 said:
Not even the Note 2?
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No I have small hands and that home button is terrible.
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i have both in my hands right now....traded my galaxy nexus for the razr HD...i love the build quality of the razr, battery life and the motorola radios..however it lacks the developer support that the s3 has...only a few roms out there....both feel about as fluid and fast as the other...so the main question is are you a crackflasher or not.....thats what it boils down to me....plus the amount of accessories for the s3 compared to the razr

The battery isn't a problem for the GS3 because of the fact you can put in a new battery or extended. The Razr line does have nice build quality but ugly design. To me, I think Samsung does a better job with their software and the camera is a lot better vs Motorola. I haven't notice any worst when it comes to wireless radio going from a Maxx to a GS3. The Wi-Fi is better on my GS3. Even though the newer Motorola phones have that "stock Android" look & feel it doesn't feel optimized yet. It lags from time to time. And the Samsung development is way better. The developers have done awesome work and pretty much negated the locked boot loader. Motorola's development is a joke. There's no reason to get a Motorola phone any time soon in my opinion. They haven't stepped anything up in the last few years except for battery life.

Help me decide... Coming from an iPhone 5

I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!

Koxu said:
I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!
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Here is my thread on jumping from the M to the Maxx HD... it got locked with some trash talking. I guess the Mods close threads instead of dealing with people pooping in other peoples threads... Regardless it lays out good and bad of both devices pretty well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049159

I've been using an iPhone for the past few weeks, and my RAZR HD should be here by the end of the week. I can give you a full rundown of both devices.
I wouldn't even consider the RAZR M. The screen isn't the best. It's low res and pentile. I would chose either the RAZR HD or the RAZR MAXX HD.
Honestly, I can't wait to get my hands on it. The iPhone just has way too many limitations.
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Mr.Mischief said:
I've been using an iPhone for the past few weeks, and my RAZR HD should be here by the end of the week. I can give you a full rundown of both devices.
I wouldn't even consider the RAZR M. The screen isn't the best. It's low res and pentile. I would chose either the RAZR HD or the RAZR MAXX HD.
Honestly, I can't wait to get my hands on it. The iPhone just has way too many limitations.
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I sincerely look forward to your rundown comparison. Keep me posted!

I went with the regular HD over the MAXX with some concerns over battery, but I use my phone thought my day in wireless retail and it is my only contact with my DM who texts 40 - 50 messages a day and I rarely get under 30% battery after using it from 0800 to 2300-2400
I would say save a penny and go with just the HD

Koxu said:
I specifically want to get either the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx.
Since you guys already have been working on / with this phone, can you give me some pros and cons for the Razr M or the Razr HD Maxx vs the iPhone 5.
One thing I already know for a fact is the Razr family Battery > ANY iPhone Battery
Cheers!
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Unless you prefer a phone closer in overall size to the iPhone, I would definitely go with the HD. The M has decent battery life but the screen is definitely not as nice as the other devices. It is slightly wider than the iPhone which is helpful if like me you have thick fingers. Personally, I went for the Razr Maxx HD for the even wider screen and subsequently easier typing and the crazy battery. The storage capacity is also nice addition.
If you do opt for the Maxx HD, I'd get if from Amazon Wireless instead of Verizon because it's only $149.

If you are coming from an iPhone and plan on taking any pics I would strongly advise against the RAZR m. Its camera is anemic. My dad just got the Maxx HD. Its camera is tolerable. Battery and signal have been great tho

My RAZR HD arrived today.
Do far:
Great battery life
Solid construction
Very nice screen(better than my S3)
Strong wifi a cell signals
Pretty snappy(I haven't updated it to Jelly Bean yet)
Android OS. It's just so much smarter than iOS. I can tether without jail breaking, and the notification bar is smart(version the app menu Apple calls their notification bar).
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