It would be the most amazing thing if someone could get the highest-end phone out right now and flash the lowest version of Android on it. I haven't seen anybody do this, so I'm curious: is it even possible to downgrade a phone by so much? This is both an idea and question, so bear with me. In your opinion, do you think the S4 would run slower or faster? Slower because the lowest android was built some 4 years ago and isn't really optimized (beta of Android). Faster because the S4 doesn't need to work half as much, and has well over the minimum processing power needed to run smoothly. So, what do the XDA community think- is it possible, is it faster, or is slower?
Impossible
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It would be the most amazing thing if someone could get the highest-end phone out right now and flash the lowest version of Android on it. I haven't seen anybody do this, so I'm curious: is it even possible to downgrade a phone by so much? This is both an idea and question, so bear with me. In your opinion, do you think the S4 would run slower or faster? Slower because the lowest android was built some 4 years ago and isn't really optimized (beta of Android). Faster because the S4 doesn't need to work half as much, and has well over the minimum processing power needed to run smoothly. So, what do the XDA community think- is it possible, is it faster, or is slower?
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I think you'll encounter a huge issue with app and hardware compatibility. Over the various versions many changes were made, such as support for more screen resolutions, higher frame rate support, support for front facing cameras, USB tethering and wifi hotspot support and better battery management, just to list a few.
So yeah, using a lower version would be a step backwards, and really would not make the most of the features available on newer devices.
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How come? If you fiddle enough with it (removing the options from the reply above me)and just tweak the crap out of it, theoretically, it should work, right?
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How come? If you fiddle enough with it (removing the options from the reply above me)and just tweak the crap out of it, theoretically, it should work, right?
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How come? If you fiddle enough with it (removing the options from the reply above me)and just tweak the crap out of it, theoretically, it should work, right?
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easier said than done.
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I'm sorry; I'm not a developer, just an mediocre Android user.
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i'm sorry god, i'm not a developer, just a user....
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I fixed it! Happy?
I hope you delete the thread
This is GALAXY S 4
NOT PC
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Damn when the galaxy nexus came out I wanted it to run gingerbread .. And sadly I want my s4 to run gingerbread too don't ask why, don't facepalm .. Some people are just different ....
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It would be the most amazing thing if someone could get the highest-end phone out right now and flash the lowest version of Android on it. I haven't seen anybody do this, so I'm curious: is it even possible to downgrade a phone by so much? This is both an idea and question, so bear with me. In your opinion, do you think the S4 would run slower or faster? Slower because the lowest android was built some 4 years ago and isn't really optimized (beta of Android). Faster because the S4 doesn't need to work half as much, and has well over the minimum processing power needed to run smoothly. So, what do the XDA community think- is it possible, is it faster, or is slower?
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Bootloader + kernel + driver + lib make it impossible
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duscdragon said:
It would be the most amazing thing if someone could get the highest-end phone out right now and flash the lowest version of Android on it. I haven't seen anybody do this, so I'm curious: is it even possible to downgrade a phone by so much? This is both an idea and question, so bear with me. In your opinion, do you think the S4 would run slower or faster? Slower because the lowest android was built some 4 years ago and isn't really optimized (beta of Android). Faster because the S4 doesn't need to work half as much, and has well over the minimum processing power needed to run smoothly. So, what do the XDA community think- is it possible, is it faster, or is slower?
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If you really find it amazing, maybe you should start petition to Samsung for S4 Retro Edition
Such devices, should have promised support for two years, with at least three DOWNgrades through OTA (Android 1.4, 1.3 and 1.2). Screen would be black and white, 128x64, mono sound and resistive touch panel.
btw. I just got BMGA update yesterday for my I9505, and I am happy with these cutting edge Android versions from Samsung. I value this Samsung commitment in Android development and fixing, so rather do not count on me in your "retro" mission... I will not put my money on such product.
duscdragon said:
It would be the most amazing thing if someone could get the highest-end phone out right now and flash the lowest version of Android on it. I haven't seen anybody do this, so I'm curious: is it even possible to downgrade a phone by so much? This is both an idea and question, so bear with me. In your opinion, do you think the S4 would run slower or faster? Slower because the lowest android was built some 4 years ago and isn't really optimized (beta of Android). Faster because the S4 doesn't need to work half as much, and has well over the minimum processing power needed to run smoothly. So, what do the XDA community think- is it possible, is it faster, or is slower?
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Better yet why dont you install win 3.1 on your notebook or pc?
There's a workaround to it. The easiest and fastest way to do it: you have to modify the build.prop. Search for this part:
ro.build.version.release=4.3
Change it to:
ro.build.version.release=1.5
Hope it helped!
???????
Why the hell would would you want android 1.5 on the S4......... :laugh: But whatever floats your boat.
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Damn when the galaxy nexus came out I wanted it to run gingerbread .. And sadly I want my s4 to run gingerbread too don't ask why, don't facepalm .. Some people are just different ....
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
My workphone is still stuck (officially) on GB 2.3.6, and trust me, I'm not happy about it.
And I know people who still use 2.1, and well, they aren't happy either.
The newer versions of Android have introduced a really great feature set, and going backward on one of the most (if not the most) high end device doesn't make much sense.
Personally, I wouldn't want Windows 1.0 on my laptop either.
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Anyone currently fighting this battle in their mind?
yesshh said:
Anyone currently fighting this battle in their mind?
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No.
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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Exactly the same situation here. If Samsungs new device sucks then its definately gotta be the S. Just hoping that the Galaxy's screen isnt as big as the One X's one. It's just too much... :what:
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Well, even though it has it critics, and I do go through periods of using AOSP (and prob will on the S once it's available and stable) I still think Sense is the best custom UI on Android. Simple really, SGS3 can't match that element
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Supposedly its going to have a 1080p screen, to me this is a bad thing.
1) I bet it is bigger than the ONE S and I wasn't quite happy with the size of the ONE X
2) It takes more horse power to run it, so its processor and graphics may be higher but side by side performance will probably be similar due to it having to push more pixels about the place. Also.. 1080p.. on a phone... What's the F'in point??
First i'm 100% sure that Galaxy S III won't have 2gb of ram neither 1080p screen. Its a next generation and since theres obvious settlement betwen manufacturers you can expect same specs as One X. And i'm also pretty sure that it won't have SD card, every manufacturer stops using them, why should they use them, about removable battery i'm not sure, if new galaxy is gonna be thinner then i guess it will have non removable battery.
I think the S3 will have 4.7 screen, so its big, also display will be as good as X. About other specs - I suspect quad core processor, some good graphic component, rumors about 12mp camera.
But anyway, there are only rumors atm, and Im not fan of S2, so I will go for One S as soon as it avaible here
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I'm waiting to see what Samsung has to offer, I'm not due for a new phone until June anyway.
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Exactly the same situation here. If Samsungs new device sucks then its definately gotta be the S. Just hoping that the Galaxy's screen isnt as big as the One X's one. It's just too much... :what:
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same here...
hope the design is going to be something like that (or better)
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but on 3rd may we might get some new infos (... no rumours)
however a display bigger than 4,6" is much to big for my taste...
if thats going to happen, i probably will get myself a ONE S
If it takes T-mobile US as long as it did to get the Galaxy S 2....i'm not waiting.
But then again, i don't want to wait. Im tired of Samsung's plastic devices, ugly touch wiz, and international Galaxy S3 will be different from the US Galaxy S3, which will hinder dev support.
Im sure the one s will have great dev support like the sensation. Every one S around the world will be the exact same and will run the same roms.
The only thing i was hating about htc phones was the bad slcd screen, so happy theres amoled now, and i dont care if its pentile.
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If it takes T-mobile US as long as it did to get the Galaxy S 2....i'm not waiting.
But then again, i don't want to wait. Im tired of Samsung's plastic devices, ugly touch wiz, and international Galaxy S3 will be different from the US Galaxy S3, which will hinder dev support.
Im sure the one s will have great dev support like the sensation. Every one S around the world will be the exact same and will run the same roms.
The only thing i was hating about htc phones was the bad slcd screen, so happy theres amoled now, and i dont care if its pentile.
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There is a rumor tht the one x is coming to Tmo with stock ics. I know the gs3 will be beast but I hate touchwiz and love sense. I had a mt4gs and now have a sg2 and touchwiz kills it. There is no stock ics that's working well, and no sense .: /. I want the One s or the One x one tmobile, but would get the gs3 if there is a stock ics rom
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Samsung gps
I am ready to upgrade from my Vibrant. I like my Samsung but the GPS is crap. I'm not sure I would trust a Samsung gps. I keep waiting for the gps to run me over a cliff. Is any Samsung gps as good as HTC?
nothing compares to HTC GPS. I can get a lock in under 15 seconds. no tweaks.
i never lose the satellite. Its found me home many times
kinda yes, I really like GS2 and SAMOLED Plus is great. But we still don't know if GS3 will be SAMOLED HD or SAMOLED HD Plus. It's most likely be the same size as One X, packing same or better CPU, probably same or better quality camera, and most likely missing things like notification light and noise canceling mic.
Already got one s and prefer HTC build
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nothing compares to HTC GPS. I can get a lock in under 15 seconds. no tweaks.
i never lose the satellite. Its found me home many times
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agreed 100%
Samsung Vibrant GPS
tf442 said:
I am ready to upgrade from my Vibrant. I like my Samsung but the GPS is crap. I'm not sure I would trust a Samsung gps. I keep waiting for the gps to run me over a cliff. Is any Samsung gps as good as HTC?
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Same boat as @tf442. I have a "first month out" Vibrant and GPS has been abysmal from the get-go. I have flashed at least a dozen ROMS (probably more)from Bionix, Trigger all the way to ICS 4.0.4 and they vary, but still no where near other manufacturers GPS. I will not give $$$ to Samsung since they went on the pine in acknowledging any issues with GPS. That, and quit with FROYO. Not good for a top-end phone at the time.
I am eligible for upgrade now, but I don't think I am going to. I might wait out until mid to end-year to upgrade. I am pretty satisfied with my G2 still. Everyone swears it's a great backup phone, but I like it as my main phone all the same.
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There is a rumor tht the one x is coming to Tmo with stock ics.
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That won't happen.
Recently, news of a 4.2 update to Android surfaced : http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...omization-center-project-roadrunner-and-more/ - if this is true, users will no longer need to charge their devices every 1-2 days and will have tons of "official" UIs (as TW, Sense etc. or user-made ones). But the biggest point is that all devices that get up to 4.2 will no longer have to wait for the OEMs to release their custom updates and will have the choice to do vanilla Android upgrades and later apply their specific skin (TW for us, Sense for HTC users etc.). So, what do you think, will you still be using your Galaxy R by the time we get (4.1 and) 4.2 ? Will you switch to a Nexus device (like the rumored 1st tier-specced LG Optimus Nexus or the 2nd tier-specced Samsung Galaxy Nexus II) to avoid not-so-popular phone problems like ours has ?
I've already sold my S2 and ordered Galaxy Nexus...I guess I'll stay with that a year or two. I know that OMAP 4 is less powerful than exynos but...devs just love it and I hope I won't have to worry about updates (look at nexus s).
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Recently, news of a 4.2 update to Android surfaced : http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...omization-center-project-roadrunner-and-more/ - if this is true, users will no longer need to charge their devices every 1-2 days and will have tons of "official" UIs (as TW, Sense etc. or user-made ones). But the biggest point is that all devices that get up to 4.2 will no longer have to wait for the OEMs to release their custom updates and will have the choice to do vanilla Android upgrades and later apply their specific skin (TW for us, Sense for HTC users etc.). So, what do you think, will you still be using your Galaxy R by the time we get (4.1 and) 4.2 ? Will you switch to a Nexus device (like the rumored 1st tier-specced LG Optimus Nexus or the 2nd tier-specced Samsung Galaxy Nexus II) to avoid not-so-popular phone problems like ours has ?
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Concept is very nice but this is so far from reality buddy because in this short time its very difficult to work on these many changes, I don't think this is will be possible in 4.2 but hope for the best, if it happens defiantly i will buy new Nexus device (Samsung/LG) or even current Galaxy Nexus is also very nice.....
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I've already sold my S2 and ordered Galaxy Nexus...I guess I'll stay with that a year or two. I know that OMAP 4 is less powerful than exynos but...devs just love it and I hope I won't have to worry about updates (look at nexus s).
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M.kochan great decisions buddy, yes you are correct compared to S2 Nexus H/W is not that powerful but its has great dev support (which will suite you because i know you will play with all the available ROM's) recently i have flashed AOKP on one of my friends Galaxy Nexus believe me you will love it and never go back to any other ROM after using it......
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M.kochan great decisions buddy, yes you are correct compared to S2 Nexus H/W is not that powerful but its has great dev support (which will suite you because i know you will play with all the available ROM's)......
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You're right mate :good: I am m.kochan10 and I am a flashoholic hehe :laugh:
I played little bit with jb on gnex in one carrier's shop and was shocked over this scrolling fluidity. I'd say gnex with stock jb is smoother than S3! It's the best picture of what good software means for the device.
well I am still proud owner of Galaxy R because before Android/XDA I used to compare phones on GSMarena before buying mobile or while suggesting someone, but after Android/XDA my thoughts have changed totally, regarding things to be considered, so after reading and learning things about flashing and Pimping Android to make it better than what your OEM provides you, it is quit clear that my next phone would be Nexus, one friend is coming from USA next month, so probably LG Nexus would be in my hand within 2 months, if not in budget then GNex is sure, and m.kochan10 has taken right decision, with any Nexus in your hand, you will never regret for at-least 2 years after seeing those tempting Specs of those SGS3, SGNotes or HTC One series, you wont give a flying @&$* about whatever OEMs comes with their flagship because you will be having your precious in hand.
and for all this useful knowledge I will always be thankful to my lovely Galaxy Royale
Yes, Royale will always have a sentimental value for me too. I learned a lot android while I was sgr's user! Before that I just could flash zips
PS.It's very hard to buy GNex now. In Sweden it's practically out of the stock and out of sale. Only few retailers/carriers still offer it for prices...hm equal or higher than in case of quad-core flagships. I ordered mine on ebay cos the price difference was really huge. So...I guess something is going on with the new nexus-line.
@parmarket...me too...i used to rely on gsmarena....
Bt after xda..it has changed me too...
@m.kochan.. Definitely R wld have sentiments attached s its first droid n leavin it wld b bit difficult...
M nt wid nexus..bt m with open hardware devices or devicrs that r dev friendly...
My friend has nexus prime n yes transition r awesome...
I even checked s3 of my frnd...even his scrolling or transition were smooth
Both were on stock rom wid s3 on ics n gnex on jb
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Actually we all are same. Coz b4 joining to XDA i used to search over several site and major were gsmarena and now after joining xda my perception has changed.
I do agree with m.kochan and everybody who is posting in this thread. I will also go for nexus. Will order that from ebay. I m huge fan of galaxy royal bt due to limited user and limited support i have to take hard decision. BTW i will choose Gnex.
My friend have gnote and s3. Bro has s2. Now i would go for gnex. One step ahead of all of my friends and bro. In case of getting updation. I will b on No. 1.
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i am not a hardcore user of a phone, i guess i am fine with SGR, let me see when my phone breaks down or burst
recently i got ipad so no money to buy a phone
My next phone is surely gonna be a HTC nexus for 2 reasons
1. Awesome build quality of HTC
2. Early updates for Nexus phones
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My next phone is surely gonna be a HTC nexus for 2 reasons
1. Awesome build quality of HTC
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I would be cautious here. The old HTC phones like: Legend (I really loved this aluminium unibody...so much that I'm biding a second hand model now ) or Desire line had a great build quality...but since then new models are marred with annoying and often very serious shortcomings. Read about One line.
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I would be cautious here. The old HTC phones like: Legend (I really loved this aluminium unibody...so much that I'm biding a second hand model now ) or Desire line had a great build quality...but since then new models are marred with annoying and often very serious shortcomings. Read about One line.
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Yeah I knw der r sum issues wid d one series but d fact is that HTC uses way better materials den Samsung.. They hav a feeling of built 2 last forever... I am a big fan of the desire hd... Wad d great built that phone had!!
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That's true. In regard to galaxy serie so..in my opinion SGR feels much more solid than totally plastic S2.
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That's true. In regard to galaxy serie so..in my opinion SGR feels much more solid than totally plastic S2.
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Yup sgr feels grt in d hands ad opposed 2 sgs2 which feels as if ur holding a small bunch of paper
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i am not a hardcore user of a phone, i guess i am fine with SGR, let me see when my phone breaks down or burst
recently i got ipad so no money to buy a phone
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dude I have seen many times you say you are not hardcore user of phone, but I guess casual/normal user wont be on XDA flashing and experimenting different ROMs against risk of loosing warranty or bricking, so in my view you are phone enthusiast
Rumors for 4.2 android
Have anybody read this
Googler debunks the new Nexus program and Android 4.2 rumors with "LOL", source apologizes
"It was brought to our attention that the details contained in the post ‘Rumor: Android 4.2 to feature Project Roadrunner, new Play store, Customization Center, enhanced Google Now’ were fake. A rumor is a rumor, but we try to post only the ones that we can verify with multiple sources and we believe to be true. I apologize for failing to confirm this rumor with multiple sources and spreading false information."
& here is a new rumor. somebody pls give me a shot.. am i sleeping..??
Motorola Occam and Manta shown running Android 4.2 with benchmarks
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Now this gonna kill me man:
Samsung GALAXY Nexus, Google Nexus 7 already running Android 4.2?
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Have anybody read this
here is a new rumor. somebody pls give me a shot.. am i sleeping..??
Motorola Occam and Manta shown running Android 4.2 with benchmarks
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Do not believe in what it shows in Benchmark buddy. It just recogonize the Android version by what u give in build.prop file. You can give any version. I have even seen some results with Android 7.0.7. Its just those editing in build.prop and nothing more than that.
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Do not believe in what it shows in Benchmark buddy. It just recogonize the Android version by what u give in build.prop file. You can give any version. I have even seen some results with Android 7.0.7. Its just those editing in build.prop and nothing more than that.
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what about Samsung GALAXY Nexus, Google Nexus 7..??
Rumours (Project Roadrunner ) from Android and Me was fake read comments section of this link. http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...es-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270
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Could anyone please tell me where or how to buy a galaxy nexus s in India. I am a little hesistent to buy online as i have read horror stories of ppl ending with a bad product after online pruchase....Please...thank you
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Epic slow official updates, epic high price (I bought this for 475$ in my country, yeah, I know that it's highly overpriced), crappy firmware, slow development.
Go buy Nexus 4 instead.
That's all, thanks.
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Well i got it from my carrier at no cost, and i my month bill is around 15 euros so it was a good deal for me. Official JB is crap but CM10.1 is awesome and I think people shoud get this phone because it will probably get 4.2 at some point.
In my country it has the best price-quality relationship (better than S2). The S3 and S4 are so expensives. Of course you need to know how to root and change the kernel to take adventage of the hardware it has, else JB will be laggy. People with money and no experience with android may opt for an S3 or S4.
This not the end, we're waiting for ST-Ericsson to release the sources. If it happens this smartphone will be even better.
I want an XPERIA SP or ZL ): Lot of reasons... Have to wait 5 months until getting some of these ):
But, anyways, love CM, look at this.
Needed some initial tweaking with Pimp my Rom to decrease nearly more than 120Mb of RAM
I'd prefer CM10 (it's CM10.1) but this seems to get stabler soon than a version already out. 4.1.2
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Well i will buy s4 because it is just awesome an people like like broodplank1337, Faryaab, mike1986., ::indie:: and omega team and wanam work on it. Nexus is good too because there is francisco.franco
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These are good devs. But we got a lot of great devs. Team Canjica, mr.xD97, ikaster17, and a lot more!!!! And ur good 2 Babasula.
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Could not agree more
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In my country it has the best price-quality relationship (better than S2). The S3 and S4 are so expensives. Of course you need to know how to root and change the kernel to take adventage of the hardware it has, else JB will be laggy. People with money and no experience with android may opt for an S3 or S4.
This not the end, we're waiting for ST-Ericsson to release the sources. If it happens this smartphone will be even better.
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Hey, I'm using this phone for about 4 months now and I've tried everything, but it's still very slow. CM is good, but atm it has too much bugs to use it as a daily driver.
Also, go on and check your displays in service tests, guys (*#0*# on stock rom). Mine had got a lot of artefacts (horizontal and vertical lines on different colors, textured and sort-of yellow white color, etc.), also it's overheating as hell now (it's so hot sometimes that I can't touch it), so I'm going to return it. Going to service tommorow.
When I bought was great choice.
Today there are more options.
But I still like Galaxy Advance ..
It was what I needed.I like the screen, video recordings, photographs, sound quality, overall stability. When I bought already knew these details and for me it was enough.
Also never had problems with calls, SMS, GPS, Bluettooh, etc..
When JB came shortly met COCORE and lags are gone.
Always used STOCK ROM. Only root and Cocore.Use only one MOD (Beats Audio)
In my case I can not complain.
It works.
Not my feel "cheated"
Quite the contrary.
About customs roms, etc ... To me they are a bonus, but not really necessary.
The Galaxy Advance will continue to serve me well until the next choice.
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Hey, I'm using this phone for about 4 months now and I've tried everything, but it's still very slow. CM is good, but atm it has too much bugs to use it as a daily driver.
Also, go on and check your displays in service tests, guys (*#0*# on stock rom). Mine had got a lot of artefacts (horizontal and vertical lines on different colors, textured and sort-of yellow white color, etc.), also it's overheating as hell now (it's so hot sometimes that I can't touch it), so I'm going to return it. Going to service tommorow.
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At first i thought that this phone is not worth a penny at all.. But from time to time, i learn so many things about android development and tweaking.. And i feel that this phone is not that bad.. But still my dream phone would be nexus 4 after all..
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I don't regret buying this phone :')
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Really, was this, or an XPERIA U xD
But just because its battery didn't last a ****. And the screen was very small D:
Now i don't even care having the phone brightness always to the max c:
Now i won't waste any of my savings from here to december to jump straight to the XPERIA ZL :3
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At first i thought that this phone is not worth a penny at all.. But from time to time, i learn so many things about android development and tweaking.. And i feel that this phone is not that bad.. But still my dream phone would be nexus 4 after all..
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+1 on nexus 4. Still my choice even if it's a bit old now. :highfive:
I think its quite obvious that whoever will buy now choose one of many releases that have emerged.
it's normal to want others with more powerful CPU, Ram, etc..
Since 9070 was released many others were.
it depends on the needs each user.
And make no mistake. After "buy the gadgets of your dreams today," very soon no longer be.
At the time, in my country (argentina) the SGSA was offered at less than half the price of an S2 (the S2 was like 2500 and I paid 1200 for my SGSA). Definitively a good buy for me, money-wise.
I'm just disappointed by samsung's JB release, looks like they didn't put much effort in it, but i've come to learn that you should expect that for a mid-end device. Sometimes it's better to buy an old flagship like the S2 because it has better support overall by the devs, and by the manufacturer
HTC One Mini looks like it's gonna be awesome though (talking about mid-end market)
Jelly Bean was not perfectly implemented in any model.
There were several problems. Including the Google version.
http://goo.gl/KhKIO
I do not know why it should be perfect for I9070.
Search NEXUS users if they stay with the JB Google.
They take the gadget and then swap the rom.
In version 4.2.2 it was still fixing bugs, including performance.
And I do not know if finished.
I got mine for free on a cheap contract, it was either this or the LG L7(no thanx) it has some issues but no big deal, I might get a nexus 4 in a month or two
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It is still a decent phone, IF it is rooted, have a custom kernel and bloatware eliminated.
I dream at a device who has the processing power and memory of a flagship but the screen at the same dimension as ours. I'm not a fan of big screens, as they are unconfortable to carry on my pocket. Still searching of it.
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It is still a decent phone, IF it is rooted, have a custom kernel and bloatware eliminated.
I dream at a device who has the processing power and memory of a flagship but the screen at the same dimension as ours. I'm not a fan of big screens, as they are unconfortable to carry on my pocket. Still searching of it.
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Agree with you.
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highmage said:
It is still a decent phone, IF it is rooted, have a custom kernel and bloatware eliminated.
I dream at a device who has the processing power and memory of a flagship but the screen at the same dimension as ours. I'm not a fan of big screens, as they are unconfortable to carry on my pocket. Still searching of it.
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Unfortunately this pattern (big screens.) is being imposed .
Up to 4.3 (Galaxy S2) I still think reasonable. But for me 4 "is perfect.
ADR USR said:
:good:
Unfortunately this pattern (big screens.) is being imposed .
Up to 4.3 (Galaxy S2) I still think reasonable.
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I think 5" is good. No more
hello guy
can we bring Moto X Touchless Control to Nexus 5 ?
is it possible ?
can we make Nexus all the time waiting you to say " ok google now " even when screen off ?!
If nexus 5 ever gets this feature I'll get one. Until then, my (used) S3 with 4.4 launcher and Google now is good enough.
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Jamolah said:
If nexus 5 ever gets this feature I'll get one. Until then, my (used) S3 with 4.4 launcher and Google now is good enough.
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Anything else they add to this phone that can possibly effect battery would not be a good thing. This phone is light years better then the S3 except if pictures are important to you. Then I would wait and see if Google updates the shutter lag. If that happens there would be absolutely no reason to not get this phone.
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Anything else they add to this phone that can possibly effect battery would not be a good thing. This phone is light years better then the S3 except if pictures are important to you. Then I would wait and see if Google updates the shutter lag. If that happens there would be absolutely no reason to not get this phone.
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The camera is atleast comparable to the S4 (better than the S3) maybe try the mod somewhere in the dev section with higher quality photos and sharpness as the results look pretty convincing .
The effect on the battery wouldn't be much as the S800 in the N5 has at least one Hexagon core which is an extremely low power DSP so essentially it works like the Moto X cores so it would be similar in power usage, just needs activating .
hicks12 said:
The camera is atleast comparable to the S4 (better than the S3) maybe try the mod somewhere in the dev section with higher quality photos and sharpness as the results look pretty convincing .
The effect on the battery wouldn't be much as the S800 in the N5 has at least one Hexagon core which is an extremely low power DSP so essentially it works like the Moto X cores so it would be similar in power usage, just needs activating .
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The camera is only good to take pictures of non moving objects. For anything else don't expect to capture the moment because that moment will be long gone before the camera actually takes the picture.
As far the s800 and what it can do. They also said it was an extremely overall battery efficient cpu but that is proving to be some BS as well. It uses battery like every other cpu we have seen in the past. No one is getting great battery because of having the s800 so I do not believe any other tasks it takes on will not effect battery life.
Yea, very disappointed in the half assed implementation of this where it only works in the launcher. Expected it to be just like the Moto X.
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muyoso said:
Yea, very disappointed in the half assed implementation of this where it only works in the launcher. Expected it to be just like the Moto X.
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Neuxs 5- phone for App Devs and advances users
Moto X- phone for the open public, easy to use, for casual android users
The two phones have been built for different purposes. You shouldn't complain about one lacking the festures of the other.
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Neuxs 5- phone for App Devs and advances users
Moto X- phone for the open public, easy to use, for casual android users
The two phones have been built for different purposes. You shouldn't complain about one lacking the festures of the other.
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What is this, iOS? I'll complain until I find a solution to get my phone exactly the way I want it. That's why I buy Android phones.
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What is this, iOS?
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I hope I did not offend you. I had no intention.
But still, it would be very difficult work to emulate how the Moto X works on the Nexus 5, even if it is possible, and the cpu allows it. Changing the purpose of the phone is a hard thing to do. Every phone is built with something in mind.
If you want the features on the Moto X, and have them fully working (not ported or emulated), you should buy that phone.
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I hope I did not offend you. I had no intention.
But still, it would be very difficult work to emulate how the Moto X works on the Nexus 5, even if it is possible, and the cpu allows it. Changing the purpose of the phone is a hard thing to do. Every phone is built with something in mind.
If you want the features on the Moto X, and have them fully working (not ported or emulated), you should buy that phone.
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No, you didn't offend me at all. And I did buy a Moto X last night for $220 New off contract from Dell. Too good of a deal to pass up. Just saying that I want this feature on my nexus 5.
There is an app called "open mic+"
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No, you didn't offend me at all. And I did buy a Moto X last night for $220 New off contract from Dell. Too good of a deal to pass up. Just saying that I want this feature on my nexus 5.
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How did you get a Moto X for $220 off contract?
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The camera is only good to take pictures of non moving objects. For anything else don't expect to capture the moment because that moment will be long gone before the camera actually takes the picture.
As far the s800 and what it can do. They also said it was an extremely overall battery efficient cpu but that is proving to be some BS as well. It uses battery like every other cpu we have seen in the past. No one is getting great battery because of having the s800 so I do not believe any other tasks it takes on will not effect battery life.
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I assume you're talking about the shutter lag? Without HDR i take photos in an instant with focus so maybe I am lucky, havent missed anything yet .
The S800 is an extremely efficient CPU, playing games it WILL use more power as its providing more frames but in every other task it will use less power (a lot less), the modem is integrated so using mobile and wifi data uses significantly less power and with some fancy tech Qualcomm and reduced mobile data battery drain with envelope tracking.
You're missing the point entirely, the Hexagon core in simple terms is an extremely low power processor that can stay on all the time, its not used at the moment so you have no idea what its potential is but power efficiency is similar to the Moto X! I did say the effect wouldnt be much, I didn't say it would be 0 lol you would probably see a few more % drained but not much.
Wait till its gets used and decide if you want the all ways on feature .
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How did you get a Moto X for $220 off contract?
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Well, its not in my hands yet, so it's not a 100% sure thing, but it was a mistake on Dell's part.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/6404392
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Well, its not in my hands yet, so it's not a 100% sure thing, but it was a mistake on Dell's part.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/6404392
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Honestly, they should be required to hold the pricing for anyone that bought it while it was incorrectly labeled. Good luck!
I will say if the moto X was $220, not sure I would be in the Nexus 5 right now.... But it wasn't, and I am... And I love this phone.
Zandeer said:
Honestly, they should be required to hold the pricing for anyone that bought it while it was incorrectly labeled. Good luck!
I will say if the moto X was $220, not sure I would be in the Nexus 5 right now.... But it wasn't, and I am... And I love this phone.
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Yea, me too. I'm going to sell the Moto X on Craigslist most likely.
I would buy a motox but it doesn't have wireless charging, which the nexus has. I got use to this on my S3, I dont want to give it up. But I do love that touchless control on the Motox. I'm torn....
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xDeadaheaDx said:
There is an app called "open mic+"
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i don't trust these apps
Also going to add to this. What about the people who live outside of the US and can't get a Moto X? I was hoping the Nexus 5 would have this feature and was really disappointed. I read another thread here that said the technology in the Nexus 5 would allow for this feature although it might mean it turns off the pedometer feature(which I don't care about)
I started this thread about getting a bounty going for getting touchless working through the co-processor. It seems to have died down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512493&highlight=touchless
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This binary port combine AOSPA for Tab 3 from @bakxsteen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713660, official AOSPA for Note 2, and multi languages MIUI for Nexus 7 2013 from miuiandroid.com, patched CM's surfaceflinger, patched framework-res.apk for voice, SMS, and mobile data support.
I really like MIUI, it's one of those rare examples of a company taking something great and actually making it better. Xiaomi has finally made the entire source code tree available, including the kernel, so we can expect some really interesting up and coming ports. I recently helped a friend install MIUI, he was frustrated with TouchWiz on his Samsung Galaxy S4 mini, TouchWiz was taking up to much memory, an unbelievable 800MB of system memory. He was experiencing lag and major memory problems when using app's as simple as a browser. MIUI, not only made this little guy faster by an unbelievable factor of 10 but the screen actually looked better, so much so that I too just might grab me an S4 or S5 mini and install MIUI on it. Really, I was quite impressed on how wonderful the whole experience was. Oh the system memory, MIUI only took up 380MB, half that of TouchWiz, just amazing. After the install we compared the speed of the now MIUIized S4 Mini to my friends wifes stock S4 Mini, wow, just wow, it was like night and day better, instant computing fast. The UI really is perfect for phones and small tablets like a Nexus 7, even without out all of the gimmicky crap.
I encourage anyone who is fed upped with TouchWiz to give MIUI a go, it will definitely renew your confidence in your phone. I now have it installed in my old Note and it's like a new phone. It's becoming a real problem on how unoptimized TouchWiz, Samsung really needs to completely start from scratch instead of piling on new features just to say, "look, we have that iPhone feature too", just gimmicks and bloat, that's all it is.
I plan to release MIUI Tablet for Tab 2 7.0 today. For Tab 3 8.0, it's depends on user interest. MIUI runs smoother on Tab 3, my daily ROM for now
ketut.kumajaya said:
I plan to release MIUI Tablet for Tab 2 7.0 today. For Tab 3 8.0, it's depends on user interest. MIUI runs smoother on Tab 3, my daily ROM for now
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I would love to see Miui on my daughter Tab 3 7".
ketut.kumajaya said:
MIUI Redefining Android Tablet
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Great idea for Tab 3, thanks for possible continuing development on the 3.7", and please: Can you build a debloated (google-free) lite version for T210?
martin_s5670 said:
Great idea for Tab 3, thanks for possible continuing development on the 3.7", and please: Can you build a debloated (google-free) lite version for T210?
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I need KitKat based ROM for MIUI Tablet and Tab 3 7.0 for development
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I plan to release MIUI Tablet for Tab 2 7.0 today. For Tab 3 8.0, it's depends on user interest. MIUI runs smoother on Tab 3, my daily ROM for now
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Only interested if you can get all of the hardware to work properly including the IR blaster.
DigitalMD said:
Only interested if you can get all of the hardware to work properly including the IR blaster.
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No offense meant, but this is the kind of comment that makes devs say 'screw it'; I know, I hear it all the time on my threads. Laying it out there that you won't use this unless it's perfect is the kind of thing that really should be kept to yourself. As I said once in my Beanstalk thread, there should be some money in his Paypal account because only employers get away with talking like that. Remember this is all for free and in someone's spare time. Just sayin' :highfive:
The hardest part is bluetooth. More difficult than sound, hardware accelerated graphics, rotation and screenshot artifacs, sensors, WiFi, voice, SMS, data, and IR :laugh: Everything will works if Xiaomi give me the source code :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
ketut.kumajaya said:
The hardest part is bluetooth. More difficult than sound, hardware accelerated graphics, rotation and screenshot artifacs, sensors, voice, SMS, data, and IR :laugh: Everything will works if Xiaomi give me the source code :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Only speaking for myself of course, I don't use Bluetooth, so that's one thing I could live without for the moment. Take yer time man, get it right and then let it fly!
ketut.kumajaya said:
The hardest part is bluetooth. More difficult than sound, hardware accelerated graphics, rotation and screenshot artifacs, sensors, WiFi, voice, SMS, data, and IR :laugh: Everything will works if Xiaomi give me the source code :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Maybe there is something possible as "essential", for instance without BT, voice, IR!?
Abandoned project http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=21601&page=4#pid516857 MIUI KitKat Tablet version 4.5.16 for Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 3G T311 and GApps available at http://www.mediafire.com/?8t81d475tdavk
Would love to try this. Will it work on the 310?
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dparrothead1 said:
Would love to try this. Will it work on the 310?
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You can try, immediately flash NEXT kernel for T310 after. No support for this discontinued project, sorry.
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No offense meant, but this is the kind of comment that makes devs say 'screw it'; I know, I hear it all the time on my threads. Laying it out there that you won't use this unless it's perfect is the kind of thing that really should be kept to yourself. As I said once in my Beanstalk thread, there should be some money in his Paypal account because only employers get away with talking like that. Remember this is all for free and in someone's spare time. Just sayin' :highfive:
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No offense but the man asked for opinions and I gave my opinion, if you have a different opinion more power to you but keep your insults to yourself.. I am a developer, I understand the work that goes in. Doesn't keep me from giving honest opinions. I like all the hardware I paid for to be working on any ROM I use.
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No offense but the man asked for opinions and I gave my opinion, if you have a different opinion more power to you but keep your insults to yourself.. I am a developer, I understand the work that goes in. Doesn't keep me from giving honest opinions. I like all the hardware I paid for to be working on any ROM I use.
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Wasn't trying to insult you or anything else. And if you are a dev I would think you'd totally understand my comments. I want this to work perfectly as well but apparently that isn't possible right now. Have a good one.
Now that I have time to look back on the thread, this is your 'opinion'? "Only interested if you can get all of the hardware to work properly including the IR blaster." And I'M the one who's being insulting?? Why would you even bother posting that? If you are a dev, you should not only agree with my response, but I would assume that you have had many similar 'opinions' handed to you when your builds don't function perfectly from jump. I didn't insult you; I simply tried to say that that sort of comment is the type of thing that makes people angry when they are spending all of their free time trying to get something off the ground. You SHOULD understand that, but apparently don't. You want ME to keep my comments to myself? Maybe you should do the same. Have a nice day
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I need KitKat based ROM for MIUI Tablet and Tab 3 7.0 for development
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There is a kitkat rom to T211 maybe you can port it to T210 ? :silly:
MIUI For Tab 3 7.0 SM-T211
ketut.kumajaya said:
I plan to release MIUI Tablet for Tab 2 7.0 today. For Tab 3 8.0, it's depends on user interest. MIUI runs smoother on Tab 3, my daily ROM for now
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...any chances for T211...?.
hmmm...just pressing my lucks...
TIA