hello guy
can we bring Moto X Touchless Control to Nexus 5 ?
is it possible ?
can we make Nexus all the time waiting you to say " ok google now " even when screen off ?!
If nexus 5 ever gets this feature I'll get one. Until then, my (used) S3 with 4.4 launcher and Google now is good enough.
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Jamolah said:
If nexus 5 ever gets this feature I'll get one. Until then, my (used) S3 with 4.4 launcher and Google now is good enough.
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Anything else they add to this phone that can possibly effect battery would not be a good thing. This phone is light years better then the S3 except if pictures are important to you. Then I would wait and see if Google updates the shutter lag. If that happens there would be absolutely no reason to not get this phone.
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Anything else they add to this phone that can possibly effect battery would not be a good thing. This phone is light years better then the S3 except if pictures are important to you. Then I would wait and see if Google updates the shutter lag. If that happens there would be absolutely no reason to not get this phone.
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The camera is atleast comparable to the S4 (better than the S3) maybe try the mod somewhere in the dev section with higher quality photos and sharpness as the results look pretty convincing .
The effect on the battery wouldn't be much as the S800 in the N5 has at least one Hexagon core which is an extremely low power DSP so essentially it works like the Moto X cores so it would be similar in power usage, just needs activating .
hicks12 said:
The camera is atleast comparable to the S4 (better than the S3) maybe try the mod somewhere in the dev section with higher quality photos and sharpness as the results look pretty convincing .
The effect on the battery wouldn't be much as the S800 in the N5 has at least one Hexagon core which is an extremely low power DSP so essentially it works like the Moto X cores so it would be similar in power usage, just needs activating .
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The camera is only good to take pictures of non moving objects. For anything else don't expect to capture the moment because that moment will be long gone before the camera actually takes the picture.
As far the s800 and what it can do. They also said it was an extremely overall battery efficient cpu but that is proving to be some BS as well. It uses battery like every other cpu we have seen in the past. No one is getting great battery because of having the s800 so I do not believe any other tasks it takes on will not effect battery life.
Yea, very disappointed in the half assed implementation of this where it only works in the launcher. Expected it to be just like the Moto X.
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muyoso said:
Yea, very disappointed in the half assed implementation of this where it only works in the launcher. Expected it to be just like the Moto X.
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Neuxs 5- phone for App Devs and advances users
Moto X- phone for the open public, easy to use, for casual android users
The two phones have been built for different purposes. You shouldn't complain about one lacking the festures of the other.
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Neuxs 5- phone for App Devs and advances users
Moto X- phone for the open public, easy to use, for casual android users
The two phones have been built for different purposes. You shouldn't complain about one lacking the festures of the other.
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What is this, iOS? I'll complain until I find a solution to get my phone exactly the way I want it. That's why I buy Android phones.
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What is this, iOS?
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I hope I did not offend you. I had no intention.
But still, it would be very difficult work to emulate how the Moto X works on the Nexus 5, even if it is possible, and the cpu allows it. Changing the purpose of the phone is a hard thing to do. Every phone is built with something in mind.
If you want the features on the Moto X, and have them fully working (not ported or emulated), you should buy that phone.
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I hope I did not offend you. I had no intention.
But still, it would be very difficult work to emulate how the Moto X works on the Nexus 5, even if it is possible, and the cpu allows it. Changing the purpose of the phone is a hard thing to do. Every phone is built with something in mind.
If you want the features on the Moto X, and have them fully working (not ported or emulated), you should buy that phone.
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No, you didn't offend me at all. And I did buy a Moto X last night for $220 New off contract from Dell. Too good of a deal to pass up. Just saying that I want this feature on my nexus 5.
There is an app called "open mic+"
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No, you didn't offend me at all. And I did buy a Moto X last night for $220 New off contract from Dell. Too good of a deal to pass up. Just saying that I want this feature on my nexus 5.
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How did you get a Moto X for $220 off contract?
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The camera is only good to take pictures of non moving objects. For anything else don't expect to capture the moment because that moment will be long gone before the camera actually takes the picture.
As far the s800 and what it can do. They also said it was an extremely overall battery efficient cpu but that is proving to be some BS as well. It uses battery like every other cpu we have seen in the past. No one is getting great battery because of having the s800 so I do not believe any other tasks it takes on will not effect battery life.
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I assume you're talking about the shutter lag? Without HDR i take photos in an instant with focus so maybe I am lucky, havent missed anything yet .
The S800 is an extremely efficient CPU, playing games it WILL use more power as its providing more frames but in every other task it will use less power (a lot less), the modem is integrated so using mobile and wifi data uses significantly less power and with some fancy tech Qualcomm and reduced mobile data battery drain with envelope tracking.
You're missing the point entirely, the Hexagon core in simple terms is an extremely low power processor that can stay on all the time, its not used at the moment so you have no idea what its potential is but power efficiency is similar to the Moto X! I did say the effect wouldnt be much, I didn't say it would be 0 lol you would probably see a few more % drained but not much.
Wait till its gets used and decide if you want the all ways on feature .
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How did you get a Moto X for $220 off contract?
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Well, its not in my hands yet, so it's not a 100% sure thing, but it was a mistake on Dell's part.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/6404392
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Well, its not in my hands yet, so it's not a 100% sure thing, but it was a mistake on Dell's part.
http://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/6404392
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Honestly, they should be required to hold the pricing for anyone that bought it while it was incorrectly labeled. Good luck!
I will say if the moto X was $220, not sure I would be in the Nexus 5 right now.... But it wasn't, and I am... And I love this phone.
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Honestly, they should be required to hold the pricing for anyone that bought it while it was incorrectly labeled. Good luck!
I will say if the moto X was $220, not sure I would be in the Nexus 5 right now.... But it wasn't, and I am... And I love this phone.
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Yea, me too. I'm going to sell the Moto X on Craigslist most likely.
I would buy a motox but it doesn't have wireless charging, which the nexus has. I got use to this on my S3, I dont want to give it up. But I do love that touchless control on the Motox. I'm torn....
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There is an app called "open mic+"
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i don't trust these apps
Also going to add to this. What about the people who live outside of the US and can't get a Moto X? I was hoping the Nexus 5 would have this feature and was really disappointed. I read another thread here that said the technology in the Nexus 5 would allow for this feature although it might mean it turns off the pedometer feature(which I don't care about)
I started this thread about getting a bounty going for getting touchless working through the co-processor. It seems to have died down.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512493&highlight=touchless
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Just a note, this device is hot. Really hot. I burned myself, actually. It is never a good idea for a manufacturer to overclock a processor. The LTE does not burn battery as quickly as most people seem to think (compared to other devices), but overclocking by 0.3 GHz does.
oh!! wow! never heard about this device.....
I didn't think that this phone was going to be launched til December 1st. How'd you already get your hands on it?
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I didn't think that this phone was going to be launched til December 1st. How'd you already get your hands on it?
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I don't know how he got his hands on it,but he surely regrets it from what I understood.
darenkan said:
oh!! wow! never heard about this device.....
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Galaxy Nexus hype squashing it. LG's bad reputation does not help.
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I didn't think that this phone was going to be launched til December 1st. How'd you already get your hands on it?
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Well, the LG Nitro HD is exactly the same device as the one launched in Korea and and Canada as the LG Optimus LTE. I got my hands on a Korean and a Canadian version. I found them...Identical, really.
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I don't know how he got his hands on it,but he surely regrets it from what I understood.
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I have never had anything to do with LG, but decided to give it a go. I will give them credit on creating the "best" phone out there. It is really the fastest in terms of network and in terms of hardware. I tested against SGSII and HTC Raider, which are certainly high-profile devices currently. Could not "get my hands on" a Galaxy Nexus.
With all its merits, the LG device is, I believe, using an APQ8060 processor overclocked to 1.5 GHz. I discharged and charged the battery multiple times, and was left with the same impression: battery runs out VERY QUICKLY. On the first day it was at around 20% per hour with minimal usage, then, by the sixth day, it slowed down to about 10% per hour (also with minimal usage).
It also tends to get quite hot, especially when charging. That nice metal below the rear-facing camera? Yeah, DO NOT touch that.
Summing it up, the device really does perform better than every other device. The problems are that it does not last (I believe one user on this forum summed it up as "the fastest device on the market for the hour that it lasts"), and that its safety is...questionable.
Yup the device has already been released in Canada as the Optimus LTE and the phoneès only saving grace is the screen on it at 1280 x 720 IPS
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Yup the device has already been released in Canada as the Optimus LTE and the phoneès only saving grace is the screen on it at 1280 x 720 IPS
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I cannot do anything but pity the people who have gotten/will be getting this phone.
It has always been legal to sell faulty products, just as a car company can decide to recall a million cars or leave them there and settle lawsuits due to deaths. Not quite ethical, however. Ethical is something I think I would like our dear mobile service providers to be.
All its flaws aside, that overheating issue WILL be a problem. We all love to laugh about the iPhone's occasional spontaneous combustion, but this device stands poised to take that title.
I hope what you saying about overheating is true or you going to talk to LG lawyers pretty soon!
But I'm getting this phone! If it overheat, I just return it. Nothing to lose by getting this phone!
netnerd said:
I hope what you saying about overheating is true or you going to talk to LG lawyers pretty soon!
But I'm getting this phone! If it overheat, I just return it. Nothing to lose by getting this phone!
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Go ahead. I am interested in seeing results from when more people get it. My experience may be just an isolated case of two devices.
Just make sure you meet the requirements to return the phone while you are playing with it.
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Go ahead. I am interested in seeing results from when more people get it. My experience may be just an isolated case of two devices.
Just make sure you meet the requirements to return the phone while you are playing with it.
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Yea cause I don't really think that your return policy covers...
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This is my picture, don't steal it.
which processor does it have?
A slow 1.5Ghz smapdragen.
P.S 4 cores are just with out words the bomb.
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A slow 1.5Ghz smapdragen.
P.S 4 cores are just with out words the bomb.
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Slow?
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4ktvs said:
A slow 1.5Ghz smapdragen.
P.S 4 cores are just with out words the bomb.
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lol ... is it slow?
LG Nitro
Im using it right now and it doesnt seem slow to me nor is it getting super hot.
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lol ... is it slow?
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I used a SGS2 SR and for 1.5 Ghz it did not seem as fast as my S2 at 1.2 Ghz or the 4 core phone I got to use. ( If I say any more they will pull black ops on me and then the news will be like in the movies.)
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Im using it right now and it doesnt seem slow to me nor is it getting super hot.
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Try running something processor-heavy. If you are going to baby it, I doubt anything will happen.
I never said it is slow. Other people did. It is fast.
Any ideas on how to root?
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Try running something processor-heavy. If you are going to baby it, I doubt anything will happen.
I never said it is slow. Other people did. It is fast.
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I'll do some heavy browsing and YouTube video watching plus some games tomorrow when I get back to work. But.. the phone has a huge banding issue. At least the one I played with did. It is clear and smooth but you can see the color separation and its like a rainbow effect. Also the build quality feels cheap compared to the vivid.
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looks like LG gonna put a lil NITRO in that SKYROCKET... eh eh?? anyone?? lol
I was convinced I was getting the one but after doing some reading I considered maybe getting the s4. So I started reading these forums and been reading a lot about lag so that kind of turned me off a little because the one is supposed to be super smooth. I have been with HTC since the Hero and really like them, but wouldn't mind a change. I'm not trying to start an HTC v. Samsung war just trying to hear from both sides of the fence. Any and all insight will be greatly appreciated. I'm waiting for my local store to get a demo model, so I haven't had any hands on yet.
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battery life
A lot of the reviews suggest to get the One instead. Get whatever is right for you
The laggyness is probably down to that awful touchwiz launcher. I'm sure Nova will be 100% smooth
I have an HTC One S right now. At least for me, the reason I'm going with the Galaxy Series, and in particular the Galaxy S4 over the One is:
A- Removable battery. I just love the convenience of being able to get a full charge within seconds of just popping out my dead battery and putting in a new one.
B- SD card slot. Until internet infrastructure is at a point where you can get consistently high speeds almost everywhere on any carrier, I don't see cloud technology replacing physical storage. It's fast, it's convenient, and it will hold your content, ready for access, even with no connection at all. Of course I'll use Dropbox, but it's more of a long term storage option.
C- Better hardware in the S4 with regard to the processor/RAM.
D- Cool features like Air View/Dual-Recording/Gestures and so on. Whether you consider them gimmicks or not, at least they can be disabled.
E- MOBEAM! I saw this get mentioned on the Endgadget review, and I really want to use it now. It allows your IR blaster on your phone to work with counter top scanners/hand held IR scanners to easily pay for stuff. It also scans coupons/gift cards and saves them.
F- I prefer the Galaxy S4 camera. Seems to be the best when all conditions are considered, although it suffers against the One in low light.
G- I love the saturation and movie watching on AMOLED. It's not for everyone, but it's cool for me. The bigger screen is a plus as well.
Ultimately you should get what feels best for you. I'm moving off HTC and towards the GS4 because it seems better for me. I did also hear of the lag issues in some places, but nothing 3rd party devs/firmware fixes can't handle.
Only reason I needed.
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I was having the same dilemma but ended up ordering the GS4 . At the end of the day it does more of the things I care about than the HTC One does.
I think playing with each one before you buy will really help you make up your mind. Things like ergonomics, build quality, screen quality, and software are hard/impossible to experience through a YouTube video.
The One is certainly a well built, attractive device that will probably elicit more "ooos" and aahs" from your friends. I really love the look of the One and the speakers sound fantastic. Sense 5 is very attractive and fluid but has some quirks that would really annoy me on a daily basis.
I chose the GS4 because of the larger screen, microSD card slot, removable battery, slightly stronger vibration (sounds silly but my phone lives on vibrate), as well as some thoughtful software features such as notification toggles and a Wi-Fi based lockscreen.
Those are the things I care about most. Will a small part of me will wonder what the HTC One would have been like, of course! But you need to know what your needs/wants are and see which phone fulfills them best.
Only reason I needed.
Only reason I needed.
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Sorry, all the good ones have been taken. But really, if you're needing us to convince you to buy the S4, your heart is probably already set on the HTC One. Unless you've gone and posted a "Convince me the One is better than the s4" thread on the One board. In that case, well played.
Decide for yourself ...
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better hardware, more stuff, bigger display, sd card.
The only edge the htc one has are those front facing speakers. Not an issue for me.
External sd card. Removable battery
Features you WILL use at some point:
Answer a call by waving your hand in front of the phone.
Airview on some stock apps (I wont be using the default browser but other apps work with airview)
Smartstay to keep the screen on when you are looking at the phone.
Also check out the video quality comparisons the video is great for both but the s4's audio quality is superb. Like 10 times as good.
Also it has a larger screen, and larger battery while also being lighter
If you have to question it after that then get the htc one , its better than apple at least.
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I was convinced I was getting the one but after doing some reading I considered maybe getting the s4. So I started reading these forums and been reading a lot about lag so that kind of turned me off a little because the one is supposed to be super smooth. I have been with HTC since the Hero and really like them, but wouldn't mind a change. I'm not trying to start an HTC v. Samsung war just trying to hear from both sides of the fence. Any and all insight will be greatly appreciated. I'm waiting for my local store to get a demo model, so I haven't had any hands on yet.
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Why don't you convince me to get the sgs4 . that way you'll do your own research and form your own opinion if you should choose it or not.
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Only reason I needed.
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Sorry, all the good ones have been taken. But really, if you're needing us to convince you to buy the S4, your heart is probably already set on the HTC One. Unless you've gone and posted a "Convince me the One is better than the s4" thread on the One board. In that case, well played.
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Exactly what I did. In the end I will decide for myself, but I like to get feedback from my fellow xda'ers. Its good to hear both sides before making a final decision. I can't wait to get some hands on with the s4.
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I one reason for buy htc one premium quality
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I one reason for buy htc one premium quality
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Not really premium when I can pull the front speaker grills
Of with a tiny bit of pressure or drop haha unibody yeah right
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Convince me the s4 is better than the One.
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That's not our responsibility. Use your resources (the same ones you used to find XDA or anything else on the web), rather than posting a thread that comes off as flame-baiting.
This thread should be put out of its misery.
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I was convinced I was getting the one but after doing some reading I considered maybe getting the s4. So I started reading these forums and been reading a lot about lag so that kind of turned me off a little because the one is supposed to be super smooth. I have been with HTC since the Hero and really like them, but wouldn't mind a change. I'm not trying to start an HTC v. Samsung war just trying to hear from both sides of the fence. Any and all insight will be greatly appreciated. I'm waiting for my local store to get a demo model, so I haven't had any hands on yet.
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New update about 288mb sent out that quashed the laggy UI, now S4 is very smooth, i guess first firmware was buggy. Go try it, i hope you get to play with an updated version, if its laggy, go to settings and check software update.
Might be friendlier on the One forums...
Convince yourself to buy an s4. Its not like anybody here actually cares if get one or not anyways...do get one...don't get one. Whatever.
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Might be friendlier on the One forums...
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It definitely is, not to be an HTC fan boy but they are definitely less deuchy. I really appreciate all the people who gave me their personal opinions and experiences. To all the deuche bags, thanks for nothing.
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With Moto X 350$ on cyber monday, is it better than N5?
does Moto X stand up to N5?
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With Moto X 350$ on cyber monday, is it better than N5?
does Moto X stand up to N5?
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There are a number of reviews comparing the two. I have the N5 now but am tempted to grab a Moto X. My biggest dislike on the N5 is the camera but it doesn't sound like Moto is much better.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the moto X dual core only?
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I know... It's a damn shame the N5 doesn't have the same build quality and active notifications like the Moto X. Would be the perfect phone.
they are entirely different devices, really.
same category, different angles at the market.
Why do people even consider both options? If the nexus s was for $350, would people add that too?
Endless advantages to the nexus 5, but the moto x only has a few.
Trusted Bluetooth, always listening and colors... That's it.
Or am I wrong?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the moto X dual core only?
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Yes it is. But it doesn't take away from it being an excellent phone trust me. Although in my opinion the Nexus is the cleAr winner in performance, the moto x performs extremely well, you'll wouldn't know it had a dual core processor if no one told you so except for gaming.
It's really a matter of preference. The moto x is probably the better phone because it does the phone functionalities better (call, speaker, battery life) but to me the nexus is the better device (S800, stock android, unlockable bootloader, 4.95 inch 1080p display, better overall performance).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the moto X dual core only?
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yes and no. while one of the the processors onboard the X is dual core (the snapdragon s4), there are a total of 8 cores shared between the S4 and the other 2 processors. that's what i call research and development.
That battery life has me considering it... My cousin has it & one charge lasts 2 days... That being said... I feel like not much beats a nexus. I'm sure I won't regret my n5 purchase when he is sitting on KitKat while the n5 will have great development & future updates.
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I had both ended up returning the moto x. It's a great phone but I was spoiled by the N5 screen, which some don't even like. Test drive them both to see what works for you and your uses. It's really the only sure way of knowing. Return the one that looses.
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Yes it is. But it doesn't take away from it being an excellent phone trust me. Although in my opinion the Nexus is the cleAr winner in performance, the moto x performs extremely well, you'll wouldn't know it had a dual core processor if no one told you so except for gaming.
It's really a matter of preference. The moto x is probably the better phone because it does the phone functionalities better (call, speaker, battery life) but to me the nexus is the better device (S800, stock android, unlockable bootloader, 4.95 inch 1080p display, better overall performance).
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This. I'm happy with my decision and I had researched it thoroughly before making the decision. Moto has been known to produce locked bootloaders and sell editions known as developer editions with the bootloaders unlocked. The main reason everyone is on XDA is for development. So IMHO just the fact the Nexus 5 comes with an unlockable boot loader alone is reason enough for me to love this phone. But then again, everything about the phone is great. And most flaws are software flaws and will be updated and fixed shortly as Google has said.
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Nexus 5 vs Moto X
I think this is the most honest review of both phones that I've read on the web and it comes from a Nexus Disciple. If you don't want to read it he pretty much says the Moto X will be the better phone once it gets Kit Kat which it has. I have the Nexus 5, I'm getting the Moto X on Monday. I'll sell one of them after a week of use.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5-vs-moto-x
I had the Moto X for two weeks and then sold it when I got my Nexus 5.
In my opinion, there is no comparison. Active notifications is cool but I can accomplish almost the same thing with customized LED notifications.
The battery life was great, but with Franco kernel i'm easily lasting a whole day on the Nexus.
I cannot stand the screen on the Moto X. The resolution isn't really what bothers me but it just seems "weak" when compared to the Nexus.
Overall there is nothing that would make me use a Moto X again. I honestly can say the only thing I miss is the small size.
The bootloader on the Moto X can be unlocked pretty easily now. Google is serious about making Motorola a player in the smart phone market once again.
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I had both ended up returning the moto x. It's a great phone but I was spoiled by the N5 screen, which some don't even like. Test drive them both to see what works for you and your uses. It's really the only sure way of knowing. Return the one that looses.
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I'm with you. I started with a nexus 5 that I loved then tried the moto x but the display was painful to stare at, way too over saturated. Came back to the nexus and I'm so happy. The nexus 5 display is outstanding.
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I had the Moto X for two weeks and then sold it when I got my Nexus 5.
In my opinion, there is no comparison. Active notifications is cool but I can accomplish almost the same thing with customized LED notifications.
The battery life was great, but with Franco kernel i'm easily lasting a whole day on the Nexus.
I cannot stand the screen on the Moto X. The resolution isn't really what bothers me but it just seems "weak" when compared to the Nexus.
Overall there is nothing that would make me use a Moto X again. I honestly can say the only thing I miss is the small size.
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Once again I agree. The moto x screen is really not that good in my opinion. I loved everything else but the display was a let down especially after having used so many great screens (note 3, G2, HTC One, nexus 5).
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I was thinking about getting an X for my wife, IT guy at work has a Moto X on ATT and his battery lasts for two days, TWO days! He likes the phone very much so far and he just updated to KitKat and I have not been able to see how he likes that yet. N5 battery is very nice to me, I can sometimes go from 6am to bedtime on one charge but most days I need to top off the battery before I leave work or as soon as I get home.
I read a lot of people saying the Moto X runs very very smooth, and now that KitKat is out for it I am sure it is even better now.
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I was thinking about getting an X for my wife, IT guy at work has a Moto X on ATT and his battery lasts for two days, TWO days! He likes the phone very much so far and he just updated to KitKat and I have not been able to see how he likes that yet. N5 battery is very nice to me, I can sometimes go from 6am to bedtime on one charge but most days I need to top off the battery before I leave work or as soon as I get home.
I read a lot of people saying the Moto X runs very very smooth, and now that KitKat is out for it I am sure it is even better now.
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Battery life on the moto x is absolutely outstanding, no doubt. It performs also very well but not quite like the nexus. The nexus feels like butter.
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Nexus 5 battery is crap. Worst battery I've ever had
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The bootloader on the Moto X can be unlocked pretty easily now. Google is serious about making Motorola a player in the smart phone market once again.
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This is not true unless you get the developer edition.
As others have said its a matter of personal preference. This is my first nexus and coming from a moto bionic with locked bootloader to this is a huge breath of fresh air, for me. If you are as interested in tweaking your device as most around here are, you can't go wrong with the n5. If not, the x is probably a good choice.
Also the statement that the x has 8 core is wrong, it's highly optimized but definitely does not have 8 under the hood.
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I still have my nexus 4 and wondering if I should sell that and get the moto x. I'll still have my nexus 5 as well but I really want those touch less controls. Its really something I can see myself using.
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I saw a thread on here started by someone who thought that their Note 3 purchase lost a lot of value because it's a Samsung product and I decided to investigate the validity of this perception.
I took data from the most recent 1000 Ebay SOLD Listings...listings where the item was actually SOLD and a buyer paid money for it. I did this for 1 year old mobile devices from both Samsung and Apple flagship models for the Verizon network:
Galaxy Note II 16gb
iPhone 5 16gb
Here are the results:
AVERAGE
$341.47 - Note 2
$392.19 - iPhone 5
$220.87 - Nexus 4
AVG - 10 highest/lowest values
$340.73 - Note 2
$392.01 - iPhone 5
$221.25 - Nexus 4
RESIDUAL VALUE
65% - iPhone 5
63% - Nexus 4
57% - Note 2
Of course, I'm not claiming this to be scientific but it gives us a rough idea.
No matter what phone you buy, this industry is seriously broken when the product you buy loses ~50% of its value in just one year. People are drunk on this stupidity and Samsung and Apple are both getting rich from feeding this crazy addiction!
I'm glad that the bar for "cheap" phones keeps being raised by Google Nexus devices. As these fairly high end cheap phones enter the used market and as consumer realize what a ripoff brand new phones are, the used phone market is going to increase in my opinion.
I think a used Note 3 will hold its value much better than the Note 2 since its specs are so far ahead of the pack, even as a used device, it will hold its own. This is all speculation, we'll find out for sure when the Note 4 comes out and people start selling their Note 3's.
Please see the PDF for details. At first, I was only planning to compare the Note and iphone, but then threw in the Nexus as well at the last minute. Again...NOT SCIENTIFIC, just a general idea.
BOTTOM LINE: You want to lose a lot of money in a year? Buy a mobile device! It probably has one of the worst residual values of anything you can buy! LOL!
This is great information. I got my note 3 at an upgrade price of $188. If I can get anything near that for it in two years I will be very happy. Thanks for the investigation
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Ah yeah and thanks to diminishing returns, I think this market will start to slow down soon, just as the pc market has. It gets to the point where it's just not worth the effort to upgrade. Note 4 is rumoured to have an even higher resolution screen for example. What's the point when the Note 3 screen is already crystal clear?
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Ah yeah and thanks to diminishing returns, I think this market will start to slow down soon, just as the pc market has. It gets to the point where it's just not worth the effort to upgrade. Note 4 is rumoured to have an even higher resolution screen for example. What's the point when the Note 3 screen is already crystal clear?
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I agree! Anything above 350ppi is just a waste of GPU cycles and battery. If you were President of the Note division at Samsung, what would you do to the Note 4 to improve it? I mean, it's a highly competitive market, how else do you impress consumers and fend off your competitors' spec jabs at your product?
Only way to get ppl to buy the next phone is if:
1.) Rollup Flexible Screen
2.) x86 compatible
3.) Last > a week (removable battery) (same weight and volume)
Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.
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Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.
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Respectfully disagree. I have a Canon S120 that costs 1/3 as much as any super phone, but no super phone can take pictures like this little thing.
Cell phone cameras have come a long way, but they still have a long way to go before equaling point and shoots like the Canon S120.
Personally, I'm not too worried about battery life because it's easy to swap in a fresh one. One week on heavy use? That seems too long. Three full days on heavy use seems more reasonable to me.
Roll up screen would be nice but that might not come until the Note 7/8/9. I would be happy if they made the screen with flexible AMOLED so that if you dropped it, it would not break. Then, coat it with something scratch proof so it won't scratch either.
I liked where Sony is going with their waterproof models.
If the Note 4 has unbreakable glass on the front with a scratch proof coating AND exceeds Sony's waterproof phones' ratings, then I would definitely upgrade again.
They can spend the rest of their time optimizing TW and maybe adding one or two new features (if they are really cool features) but for the most part, optimize and stabilize.
And lastly, improve the camera, add OIS...try to make it as good as a Canon.
Oh wait...how about dual micro SD card slots? That would be dope! 64gb micro SD x 2 + 32gb onboard = 160gb total for those of us who hate using the NSA monitored cloud.
Well, just remember, Samsung is staffed by people and people enjoy vacations and holidays as much as anyone else. Gotta pick and choose your battles. We can't get everything we want in just one year.
Amazing post, thank-you. I posed myself this exact question this morning, and then 20 minutes later I see your post.
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Doesn't take much to impress you does it?
Lots of HTC phones have dual front facing cameras and all cameras pretty much already exceed expectations for their typical intended purposes.
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What Would Impress ME Is - If you could read, quote and actually comment on what was written. I never posted anything about dual front facing cameras.
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What Would Impress ME Is - If you could read, quote and actually comment on what was written. I never posted anything about dual front facing cameras.
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Don't know if you know this, but dual facing cameras actually don't exist on any HTC phone, you know what? In fact they don't exist on ANY phone.
On the contrary, dual SPEAKERS exist on quite many HTC Phones.
Heres the interesting question, based on logic, What do you think is the liklihood that "camera" was actually a mistype of "speaker"?
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Inference, I suggest trying it someday, it's like autocorrect, except in your brain, that is, if you have one. (which would be an impressive turn of events for you)
Neo is that you on the photo?
Totally off topic I know but whoever that girl is she is hawwwwwt!
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Whoever is that? Aren't you in for a treat, it's an Olivia Wilde Look-a-Like LOL
Who would have thought a Russian model would be interested in smartphones and knows statistics? /sarcasm
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Whoever is that? Aren't you in for a treat, it's an Olivia Wilde Look-a-Like LOL
Who would have thought a Russian model would be interested in smartphones and knows statistics? /sarcasm
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Sarcasm aside, she would be sexy as hell!
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This is really interesting I always thought the same kinda thing since I buy and sell on craigslist ....nice tho you spend the time and effort to comply all the data...thanks again super interesting
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[/COLOR]Inference, I suggest trying it someday, it's like autocorrect, except in your brain, that is, if you have one. (which would be an impressive turn of events for you)
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Ever heard of PROOFREADING? It's what anyone with half a brain does when posting on a forum. Especially when trying to snowball people into thinking they are more intelligent than others when in fact the opposite is true.
I'll let you have the last jab as I have already wasted more time than I care to on your childish, immature personal attacks.
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Excellent thread very interesting data.
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Who cares abt money lol I will get note 4 if it comes out anytime .
Just it gives a good feeling to be uptodate lol
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I'd like to see the Note 4 have a full size SD slot so we can have 256GB on one card. Managing filesystem across two microSDs would be a mess. One SD doesn't have that problem.
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midmadn said:
Ever heard of PROOFREADING?
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Dual front facing speakers with amplification and better camera.
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Ever heard of GOOGLING?
If you had even bother to look on the first link you'd have known dual facing speakers exist already.
All without wasting anyone's time and effort reading your ignorant time wasting question.
The Nexus 5 has been on my potential purchase list along with the M8 Google Play and Moto X Dev Edition. Would any of you here recommend the Nexus with new phones on the horizon? Why? How about White vs Red?
Whatever I buy I only plan to keep until the Moto X2 and 360.
Thanks!
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Yes these devices specs are net that much better and the full freedom to unlock is worth it nexus 5 100%
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I updated my OP with what I've narrowed down to since posting it.
For me, unlocking/specs aren't too big of a concern with what I'm considering (they're all unlocked).
I'm more interested in the experience when using the phone and it's physical/UI feel.
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I updated my OP with what I've narrowed down to since posting it.
For me, unlocking/specs aren't too big of a concern with what I'm considering (they're all unlocked).
I'm more interested in the experience when using the phone and it's physical/UI feel.
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You get regular android no bull**** everywhere. I would still reccomend it due to great price and the specs... phones don't get that much better
Still can't believe I got this much phone for so few $$$.
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anthonyly said:
You get regular android no bull**** everywhere. I would still reccomend it due to great price and the specs... phones don't get that much better
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This is true. Price is a great aspect.
My concerns are
1. Screen breaking. From what I've heard, the screen on the N5 breaks more easily than some other phones.
2. Battery life. I use an iPhone 5s so I'm used to not superb battery life, but in contrast to the other phones I'm deciding between it seems to be a factor.
These two things are the biggest factors holding me back. M8 has insane battery, Moto has good, and they have other nice things (metal for the M8, active notifications on the Moto, etc.
Not trying to make a pure comparison thread here, but trying to see why current owners picked what they did over these devices (Moto X in particular because the M8 is really new).
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The Nexus 5 has been on my potential purchase list along with the M8, S5, and Moto X. Would any of you here recommend the Nexus with new phones on the horizon? Why?
Thanks!
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I take the M8 insted of the S5 at any time.
If you are on a budget and enjoy of android development/updates, compact design and such, the nexus 5 is the way to go (everyone here who bought the red, loved it). Also don't get surprised if N5 works smoother than the M8 regardless of chipset.. Clean software makes the difference unless you are looking for GPE. Btw, I love Sense.
If you don't care about the size, love the look, build quality and don't care for paying much more, get the M8. Just remember that Xperia Z2 is coming too.
Go to a store where you can have them side by side, get which you like more. You wont go wrong these days. You are paying
I'm really only considering between stock android devices at this point (Nexus 5, M8 GPE, and Moto X). I've used the skinned M8 and Moto X at the store and was fairly impressed by the feel of each (Moto more so). I'm not on a budget, but wouldn't want to spend $700 and wait 2 weeks for the M8 if there wasn't some redeeming quality
Seeing as this is the Nexus forum I'm sure there will be some bias though XD
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I've dropped my n5 plenty of times without a case (since rma was coming) nothing ever happened... i think it's just bad luck or i just get good luck.
thank god i'm a student... i would never spend 800$ for something that's gonna be outdated in less than a year :angel:
I think the main reason one would buy the m8 over the N5 is the speakers..
Battery life on the n5 is standard, nothing spectacular, not bad either.
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I think the main reason one would buy the m8 over the N5 is the speakers..
Battery life on the n5 is standard, nothing spectacular, not bad either.
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IMO, M8 advantages are metal, MicroSD, speakers, S801 (fair bit faster than S800), and the biggest is battery life.
Of course, the N5 is easier to lock/unlock , is lighter, gets updates faster, and is cheaper. All good things that questionably outweigh the M8.
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anthonyly said:
I've dropped my n5 plenty of times without a case (since rma was coming) nothing ever happened... i think it's just bad luck or i just get good luck.
thank god i'm a student... i would never spend 800$ for something that's gonna be outdated in less than a year :angel:
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Yeah sounds like you are pretty lucky
Where'd you get $800 from though (just curious)?
I should add that I only plan to keep this phone until the Moto X2 comes out
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Also, how easy is it to press the lock button? From what I've seen, it's pretty high up on the side.
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SolarTrans said:
Yeah sounds like you are pretty lucky
Where'd you get $800 from though (just curious)?
I should add that I only plan to keep this phone until the Moto X2 comes out
Following that trend will keep you in the same conflict. We will be here telling you to wait for the nexus 6 instead of Moto X2 :cyclops:
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Following that trend will keep you in the same conflict. We will be here telling you to wait for the nexus 6 instead of Moto X2 :cyclops:
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Also, how easy is it to press the lock button? From what I've seen, it's pretty high up on the side.
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It is very reachable with the thumb since i'ts on the side.
Unless you have this hands
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Following that trend will keep you in the same conflict. We will be here telling you to wait for the nexus 6 instead of Moto X2 :cyclops:
It is very reachable with the thumb since i'ts on the side.
Unless you have this hands
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Haha I may get the X2 and Nexus 6, so no worries
I hold my phone with my left hand, and that's why I was semi-concerned about the lock button (it's funny though because I'm right handed XD). Is it easy to hit without moving your pointer finger?
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Not sure if there will ever be a better phone to buy off contract for $350. That is until the next Nexus phone.
Battery life is one of the best aspects on the device for me and it compares favorably with most phones under proper testing conditions.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
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Haha I may get the X2 and Nexus 6, so no worries
I hold my phone with my left hand, and that's why I was semi-concerned about the lock button (it's funny though because I'm right handed XD). Is it easy to hit without moving your pointer finger?
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When I press the power button with my left index finger, I cant reach the Dock icons or navigation bar with my thumb without re- accommodating the phone in my hand. I have to slightly move the phone to be able to use my thumb.
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When I press the power button with my left index finger, I cant reach the Dock icons or navigation bar with my thumb without re- accommodating the phone in my hand. I have to slightly move the phone to be able to use my thumb.
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That's what I was concerned about
I have fingers that are a bit longer than the guy in the picture's, but I don't know if I'd suffer the same problem. I noticed that one handed operation was very easy on the Moto X (and M8 believe it or not), but I never saw a Nexus to try.
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One handed operation is average on n5 for a 5inch screen my old phone lg g2 was really heavy and bad for one handed operation and ran slower than my nexus 5 both running custom Roms
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One handed operation is average on n5 for a 5inch screen my old phone lg g2 was really heavy and bad for one handed operation and ran slower than my nexus 5 both running custom Roms
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Would you say you have large hands? That's a big consideration when it comes to one-handed use.
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