Most custom rom flashers seem to last 6 mobths on a particular phone. The first bunch defected to the the Note 2 and the last bunch to the Galaxy S4.
Now i feel like i a droid charge owner after the galaxy nexus release. :thumbdown:
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Did you see hyperdrive just had a major update? I admit it has slowed down but we still have a few options left.
Also beans is going to update (if it hasn't already)
There is also a wip for sense 5 for our phones.
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
Idk about any further, but we'll see 4.2.2 tw for sure I think. I believe I read they're working on it but delayed. Dev work has been better with this than my old phone(droid 3).
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
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a little bit of that
My phone runs way faster then my friend's S4...
Reaching perfection is a bad thing?
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I personally don't feel the sg4 is worth the upgrade, it should be called the sg3+
not too mention it's getting locked down hard..
That is the primary reason why people are still buying the S3.
Yes. Go buy an s4 asap. Development is currently sky rocketing...
Like others have said, this is an unnecessary thread. A bunch of AOSP roms have active nightlies and several TW roms are also being updated. The problem with TW roms are that once you get everything put into them, there's not much more you can do. The code is based off Samsung source so everything is already there. the only thing there is to do is rebase when a new ota comes out.
Go try out an AOSP rom. They really run well on the s3.
Lol AOSP is still booming on the HTC incredible 2. I think that we'll see stuff for much longer since the inc2 with as old and outdated as it is, its still rocking over there.
I'm loving this phone, there's something new everyday for it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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THIS . very well said sir. :good:
The HTC One may slow down development when it comes, I for one will be getting that phone. I will still be keeping my SG3 tho. (will be the first phone I actually keep rather than sell to buy new phone, I really love this phone)
It was the Galaxy S III community - and its massive, relevant history + recent topics here - which gave me enough how-tos, tools + what-if ideas that led to my:
1. Bringing a relative's phone back from a watery death
2. Rooting + installing a custom recovery on the resurrected, stock and locked phone - despite it no longer accepting touch screen input (i.e., hardware short was evident on the display connector across at least two pins)
3. Pulling 1.5 years of photos and videos + app settings from the partially crippled phone, making its owner rather ecstatic
It was an AT&T GSIII, but it information - much of it active threads - gleaned across the XDA Galaxy S III provider topics helped me finally do the above.
Heck, when I gave away my HTC Droid Incredible not long ago, even that model still had active ROM development happening.
- ooofest
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Ah yes but they did kill the droid x. I can assume we may see an update that will do the same. So watch out.
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Just don't ever take an ota, problem solved.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Yessir that would be me who did the testing for the Rezound for S-OFF with the Unlimited.IO crew
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Looks like this phone dead good thing its my girls phone I got sensation sorry guys
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Well I don't get where u think this phone has died.
In our development section we have someone working (successfully) on getting us CM7, and another person getting us ASOP.
So if anything, this phone is more alive than it has been in months.
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true that. so excited for CM7
Were is gb It's dead for them devs may keep it on lifesupport
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The work on GB just started a week ago. Shut up and stop trolling. The only way this phone will ever get GB is if people like you stay out of the way of the people who are getting work done.
Third party development for the Sidekick 4G has NOT ceased. I can see that we at the very most have 5 active projects continuing. Officially, T-Mobile has stopped support and updates for the Sidekick 4G however. Our only hope, is to support those who are continuing to bust their ass for the Sidekick 4G when they could just go get a nicer phone and develop for that instead.
Source of T-Mobile's Announcement : I can't post it because I don't have enough posts to link to outside resources, just a quick Google search will show you that.
I'm looking forward to a brighter future for this device, please be more possitive. I know this device has potential.
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Then device itself is quite nice. If we do get AOSP/CM, I'll be satisfied with the SK4G for a few more years. Five row keyboards are a rarity for some reason, and I need one for SSH.
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Third party development for the Sidekick 4G has NOT ceased. I can see that we at the very most have 5 active projects continuing. Officially, T-Mobile has stopped support and updates for the Sidekick 4G however. Our only hope, is to support those who are continuing to bust their ass for the Sidekick 4G when they could just go get a nicer phone and develop for that instead.
Source of T-Mobile's Announcement : I can't post it because I don't have enough posts to link to outside resources, just a quick Google search will show you that.
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yeah we slowed down dev but look it doesnt matter as long as we are a 4g phone we could do just the same as the epic 4g did and not dev for awhile but burst with everything soon enough it just takes time and devs to get the phone
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yeah we slowed down dev but look it doesnt matter as long as we are a 4g phone we could do just the same as the epic 4g did and not dev for awhile but burst with everything soon enough it just takes time and devs to get the phone
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That's true, the Epic 4G did eventually get CM support after a long delay.
However, it also has approximately two zillion units in deployment. The SK4G has more of a struggle ahead, with far fewer handsets in the field.
I wish more sysadmin types would realize what a great device the Sidekick 4G is for remote management. Top-notch SSH client, flexible VPN options. That user base could really benefit from the SK4G's virtues.
Another thing about the Sidekick 4G that I like to mention is that on stock, it's crap. Although, when flashed with a custom ROM and proper tweaks applied, the phone's structure and hardware becomes more than worth the price. For example, the price is sub-200$, which is great for this phone. (brand new too)
Code:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SAMSUNG-SIDEKICK-4G-T839-WIFI-GPS-UNLOCKED-T-MOBILE-CELL-PHONE-BLACK-/330690802804?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cfeb53474#ht_5364wt_1139
Price is 182$ w/ free shipping straight. The only issue is Hong Kong's slow shipping. (also the phone is unlocked)
really i got mine for 120 with it already rooted i didnt have to work at all but its simple to do anyway
I got mines as a gift, I'm hooked on GOv2
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I've been with the sidekick line for quite some time now, they have always been a tried and true phone, so i'm loyal to SK. It was a bit of an adjustment goin from danger to android. (this is my first android device lol) and let's face it, the stock SK4G was a pain... ran slow, choppy, a little disapointing.
But after finding XDA and the awesome people that contribute here, i learned a few things. Had fun learning them too. Now i am happy with my my SK4G completely.
Yea, Tmob stopped production after only 11 months, but like alot of people loyal to the SK line, and with some help from the cool peeps on XDA, i'll be rockin this phone for quite some time.
btw, some rumors about SK gettin another revamp? should be interesting.
Rockin the Glorious Overdose v2 ROM. great work!
Yeah well if you go with the ics that I have it thinks its galaxy nexus which is funny but I think sk might be getting cyanogenmod
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I got mine free 2 months ago with a new 2yr.Stock was junk and lagged way too much,then i went to GOv2 and got alot of freezes now on GGv3 and flawless its a whole different phone,thx for all the hard work.
Not so dead after all
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Jax184 said:
The work on GB just started a week ago. Shut up and stop trolling. The only way this phone will ever get GB is if people like you stay out of the way of the people who are getting work done.
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lol, +1
true that.
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lol, +1
true that.
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Dude.. your signature.. that looks awesome
It all comes down to all phones have different development rates.
If you wanna see a phone that died look at the LG Ally when it came out.
I have already had the AT&T sgs3 but returned it because the user base is no were need Verizon's user base so I figured that we would ultimately have more roms kernels and themes. I am hoping that will still be the case. Either way I do not regret my decision because AT&T Lte is so tiny in comparison to Verizon lte when it comes to coverage.
Anyways back to the point of my thread.. the development for the international version of both the sgs2 and the sgs3 has always blown me away with the vast number of different roms, themes, and kernels! If anyone has every taken a peak over in the i9300 Dev forums they will know what I am talking about. Whenever I browse over there I find myself in a state of pure jealousy. The best of the best can be found there from roms like OMEGA to kernels like syliah kernel. I wish there was a way to easily port the international roms etc like entropy did for the AT&T sgs2 when he created the hellraiser packages which essentially swapped out the incompatible parts of a rom and replaced them with the compatible libs, modems etc that were meant for the AT&T sgs2. It would be nice if we could find with way to make it happen with our Verizon sgs3, not sure if that is possible though. Cross my fingers for this and definitely for an unlocked bootloader
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I was not complaining at all. I am very grateful but regardless i was comparing all us variants to internal and not us to us..
We'd have more development if Verizon cared about their customers more than their money.
I'm confident we'll have more development. Coming from an LG Revolution I'm very happy with the amount we have now even
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Unfortunately we will never see nearly as much development as we would if we had an unlocked bootloader.
I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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I think he meant it is highly unlikely we will eventually have a unlocked bootloader, not a work-around.
Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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It doesn't even matter that the BL is locked we already have a"Work around" and can do anything an unlocked phone can do we just have a few extra steps.
They have more development because it is... Verizon in the US alone vs the rest of the world..
I'm not surprised that they have more development at all
I myself have just started dev on this phone with nothing released as of yet. It will come soon. I have friends in the same boat. Just be patient. Roms will start coming in heards now that there is a workaround.
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Also agree with this. With kexec it seems we have some decent flexibility already, with just a couple resets in startup which I consider a very small price to pay
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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Having a locked bootloader is still very much a big deal. It slows development if anything and reduces the possibility of seeing ROMs other than stock TouchWiz because developers who don't like TW have to go through the trouble of learning how to correctly make a boot.img that is compatible with kexec or else face the consequences. I just learned this the hard way by hard bricking my phone while trying to build a working boot.img for Sense 4.0.
Trust me, we want an unlocked bootloader...
I think we have a smaller user base because of the costs associated with Verizon. Let's face it, we all know Verizon is hell of expensive. We pay the highest price for one reason, the 4G is blazing fast and we always have a good signal.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
Can you point to a thread where it was said development might be slowing? It seems to me like development is picking up since the release of the kernel source.
The latest AT&T OTA update might slow things slightly because it blocks the old root and unlocking exploits, but I don't think it's anywhere near dead. Still, I could be wrong. Where did you see this stated?
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Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
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Did you just say your buying a phone solely on ROM development? If thats the only thing you want then this probably isnt the one for you. Even though IMO its the best phone currently out. Take a look around the forums and see for yourself if the development is up to your standard
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Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
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looking for develoopment? i will say stay away, and its too late for developers to jump on to this device. might see only few comming here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29773274&page=3
THats the thread
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29773274&page=3
THats the thread
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Ah, okay. Well, not having had any other Android phone, I don't really know what to compare it to. I've been satisfied with the options available, but I'm not a Flash-aholic. There are a fair number of both Sense-based and AOSP-based ROMs to choose from, and so far none of the devs seem to be going anywhere. But, development will never equal something like the S3 or even the international One X, just because of the smaller userbase.
The other factor to consider is that if you get an AT&T One X today, it might very well come with the 2.20 update, meaning you wouldn't be able to root or unlock it right away.
It's not dead yet but even scrosler said that he will be moving on to another phone if something happens to his One X. AT&T should be ashamed of themselves for locking down this amazing phone. However the enthusiasts aren't their target customers. They don't care enough about losing us to change.
The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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Having the same problem with the Tapatalk app.
Also can't get in with any of the XDA apps.
As far as dev being dead. I don't see how. Check out the original development section, the guys are rocking in there and working hard to get things moving. Team Nocturnal is pumping out ROMs and updates for those ROMs. If the ultimate goal of "dev activity" is AOSP, which always seems to be the case, then we are very close.
The sky isn't falling, Chicken Little.
Back when the Captivate came out, people were saying the same thing for the first year the phone was out. Now go check out the Captivate forums. They are still going strong.
I think this has more to do with people not getting what they want RIGHT NOW, than anything else. Everyone wants perfect CM9 and CM10 as soon as they get the phone. It seems like a lot in the community frequently forget that these guys are doing this for free and of their own accord. Sometimes they run into problems like devices being bricked, broken...or not even having the device at all. Sometimes they are kids in HS and have other things on their plates. Not everyone has time to sit infront of a computer and develop for 12+ hrs a day.
I had my SGS2 for a good 6 months before CM9 nightlies came along.
It's also worth mentioning that if you don't at least donate to the devs, you don't really earn the right to ***** about anything.
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When I try to see my posts it says I have none.
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The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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Mine was acting up earlier but seems fine now.
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If you're looking for a phone with development, go get an N1, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, etc... We got the HOX because it's the best phone on the market right now, regardless of the development scene. We are all thankful that we have a development scene, of course, but I think we all chose this phone before looking at the existing scene. As the phone matures, the scene will only get better.
What's about with the storage? I am showing only 9gb free on a brand new one x. That's just nuts? I thought 16gb was bad, now I am finding its even worse
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Mine was acting up earlier but seems fine now.
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It's still not working for me.
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What's about with the storage? I am showing only 9gb free on a brand new one x. That's just nuts? I thought 16gb was bad, now I am finding its even worse
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Should be 9.93 GB dedicated to an SD card partition and about 2.34 GB dedicated to internal storage.
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Should be 9.93 GB dedicated to an SD card partition and about 2.34 GB dedicated to internal storage.
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Why would they do that? Given that there isn't an external sd slot, this phone has less space then most if not all android phones on the market.
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Why would they do that? Given that there isn't an external sd slot, this phone has less space then most if not all android phones on the market.
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Coming from an iPhone I learned quickly that I either embrace the cloud for music or get a different phone. Luckily Google Music gives you 20,000 songs free and it streams very well, even on high quality mode.
ComposMentis said:
Coming from an iPhone I learned quickly that I either embrace the cloud for music or get a different phone. Luckily Google Music gives you 20,000 songs free and it streams very well, even on high quality mode.
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I don't really store music on my phone, mostly pictures and videos which take up a lot of space. And if you add in a nandroid or two you + Titanium backup backups you are looking at a phone with no more storage room. Man such a bummer... I had no idea it was only 16g I guess I was looking at the International x and figured it would be the same as far as storage was concerned. Such a beautiful phone to be spoiled by this. Oh well my bad
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This is the best phone out there today despite development.
As i said in another thread
F*CK htc and at&t and their development crap we will pull through
HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
About time. Thunderbolt needs new life breathed into it. Can't wait for this!
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HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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I was under the impression that Verizon already had HTC's ICS. It is Verizon that is not releasing the software.
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HTC has been posting that same twitter reply since they was testing the test build back in April lol.
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Bout time, cant really find a phone that with a better radio and easy of use rootwise than the tb plus the darn thing will run any app and setting I toss at it.
If they only would hurry up and updrade it or shut up and admit that they built a monster that they cannot code for.
Its okay to admit failure you f'ing retards. Its the first phone of its kind and you were not prepared for it. (i.e. HateTC and VZW)
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ICS = Inadequate Customer Support
Of course they have happily provided that to TBolt owners for almost 2 years now.
Yes I still rock the Thunderbolt. You gotta problem with that?
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...-ice-cream-sandwich-update-will-be-here-soon/
Mind you i dont think there ar emany left in the thunderbolt area, but i cant wait to see it.
If an update doesn't come within a year of Google releasing it, it shouldn't count as an update.
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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I remember a few months ago there were rumors htc finished the build and was waiting on Verizon's approval.
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If you call HTC they mostly say Verizon has it. Then if you call Verizon they say waiting on HTC.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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hallstevenson said:
Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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My understanding, right or wrong, was that HTC/VZW released some T-Bolts with an ICS "soak test" to around maybe 100 people? I applied too late to get in on it. The phone came with an NDA that apparently was almost iron clad as there were NO leaks at all until after the test ended and the test phones were returned.
It's my belief that the TeamBAMF leak was from one of those phones, someone may have copied it to his/her/it's PC and leaked it AFTER the test had closed and AFTER he/she/it had learned how to remove the identifying bits so that he/she/it wouldn't be subject to enforcement of the NDA.
I may be wrong, the above is merely pieced together from what I've read here and elsewhere.
FWIW, I ran the leak and had the usual short battery life BUT..... Later I restored the backup I'd made and, after a couple of days, the battery life improved a huge amount, it became about the same as other ICS ROMS.
As always, YMMV.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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They probably had the same issues as the devs did and can't figure it out but it's on the back burner and not forgotten. I hope
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At this point, I would be pretty surprised if ICS was released at all. I found that ICS, combined with Sense 4, is too much for the phone to handle smoothly. And I'm sure it would be worse when the typical Verizon bloat is added. Some work could probably be done to make it smoother and more power efficient, but I don't think that struggling HTC has any motivation to expend development resources on a phone that's rapidly approaching its second birthday.
Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
I blame HTC for turning their backs on their customers and I will never buy another HTC product. They probably won't be around much longer anyway.
They have promised ICS for the Bolt several times before. I got tired of waiting, upgraded to Droid Maxx HD. 3 days after buying it Verizon pushed out Jelly Bean. Wow it was nice to actually get an update that fast!!!!
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Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
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If they wanted me to get a DNA they'd have given it a removable battery and an SD card slot, as it is it's totally useless to me.
Hi folks and devs,
I'm just wondering what might be happening w/ the 4.2.1 update on the MT4G S. It's been a while, and I just wanted to ask if there are plans for a release, or if it's not worth it or what. Since the phone's so old, not sure what's on the agenda, but I've got it on my Acer a500 and it's so amazingly fast, it's unbelievable. Would be so great to have it on my phone as well...
Thx.
I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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Oh wow. That's too bad, man. Sorry to hear that. We loved your work tho! I think you're right in some regard tho - I recently messed with my Mom's iPad, and it just feels better put together, more solid (than my a500 at least). I hate to say that b/c I hate Apple, but it's sorta true. I will never own an Apple product tho, don't get me wrong. I love Android.
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I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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strapped365 said:
I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.
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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.
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I've contemplated going that route, but I replaced my wife's iPhone 3GS with a Galaxy Nexus and it has it's own issues.
I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes
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I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.
I'm actually tired of hwkb, as my phone before this was a MotoCliq. Both hwkbs failed, and I don't much care for the novelty of it anymore.
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.
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When I got my S3 I hated and still hate the virtual keyboard. I can't let go of the doubleshot because of the hardware keyboard shortcuts and certainty of keystrokes for terminal commands.
I did find a workaround for the virtual keyboard though:
http://celluon.com/products.php
I solved the virtual keyboard problem by getting a real virtual keyboard. It's the most awesome thing since slide keypads.
I can consistently hit around 60 words a minute with solid accuracy, once you start pushing to and past 70 wpm you're getting too fast for the device to interpret your keystrokes.
Quick pairing, should work for the doubleshot on any rom that supports a sixaxis ps3 controller, otherwise the htc "no bluetooth input device for you" mantra prevents it working.
@strapped: JB update is sweet for the S3, I have over 317 apps installed and running - pretty much all paid (ad free) versions, not running into any force closes, slowdowns or random errors. They finally learned how to play nice together as a group.
OS actually sees and displays all apps - unlike on gingerbread where you topped out around 100 or so apps before it started losing track of what you had installed.
You just spent too long with the weight of trying to fix everything HTC broke for us here on your shoulders and are getting burnt out from it. There is light down the tunnel.
The lack of hardware keyboard devices on Android will keep people like us either stuck trying to make it right after launch or despising the candybar style device in our hands everytime the virtual keyboard pops up.
I don't know what you'd go to - maybe ubuntu native when it comes into it's own? You're going to have fewer (if any?) hardware keyboard choices going to anything else. Think it's bad now? The "fractured android ecosystem" is why we have a keyboard at all and not simply iclones.
JB solves everything we don't like about gingerbread. Next flagship/near flagship device with a hardware keyboard will have it and life will be grand.
Hate to see you hang on this long just to give up so close to the savoring the fruits of your frustration.
6 months later and I still hate the S3 despite all it does well. If T-mobile wasn't such a joke for national tower infrastructure, i'd have never got one. Travelling randomly state to state for work and needing map data on the road is not possible. Frequently there isn't a T-mobile tower for a hundred miles or more - so when I hit the tiny mb limit for roaming data, they just cut all data services and leave me in the middle of nowhere with no navigation.
Maps aside, an active smartphone data connection is required for my job. I need to send/receive pdf files, pictures and email consistently over the course of my shift - the first time t-mobile cut me off on data like that almost cost me my job.
Things are starting to go right for android users as a whole with JB - give it a chance to trickle back and fix things here, otherwise a little more patience hopefully brings a JB slider not far off...
I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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I would but I have no idea what I'm doing I used to know how to port ROMs, but recently I haven't had time to do anything and Linda lost the ability
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Well we are going to need a kernel lol and I'm not sure what edits need to be made to get 4.2.1 booting.
I did have it on my vision before the digitizer stopped working and has dead spots. And its super NICE. But the only visual difference I seen was the status bar. The lockscreen/widgets seemed slow to load and I couldn't get it sped up even at 1.8 Ghz.
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Whoareyou said:
I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.
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I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.
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Have you seen the development thread lately? I'm guessing you haven't because we have enough to keep users going. HTC bombed the doubleshot and they know it, anything past GB takes heavy lifting to get going right for us, but we try as best we can.
Just because there isn't a new post every 5 minutes does not mean development is dead, it simply means nothing to post about. I have a thread on the shift section that literally gets bumped by users, but it still gets used still gets downloads there are just no issues what so ever to post about.
Why after all we do, do we still have users like you?
I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?
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I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?
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Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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strapped365 said:
Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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Hmmm, maybe, i tamperd a little with building CM9 for the Espresso, never got past the bootanimation though.... Maybe ill try again