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From Captivate to Inspire

So after 4 days of persistence in calling AT&T Customer Care and Warranty, I am going to be a proud owner of an Inspire!
Had the Captivate since initial launch, plus 5 returns! They are doing a "one time only" make/model exchange through warranty.
I'm excited to say the least! I think the Captivate was a great device, just not reliable enough for me. I spent the last 6 months dealing with random shutdowns and frankly had enough!
Glad to see people are enjoying the phone!

congrats!!!!!!!

You will never miss your captivate , even the captivate devs are coming to the inspire !

born_fisherman said:
So after 4 days of persistence in calling AT&T Customer Care and Warranty, I am going to be a proud owner of an Inspire!
Had the Captivate since initial launch, plus 5 returns! They are doing a "one time only" make/model exchange through warranty.
I'm excited to say the least! I think the Captivate was a great device, just not reliable enough for me. I spent the last 6 months dealing with random shutdowns and frankly had enough!
Glad to see people are enjoying the phone!
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You'll be joining a rather sizable club of ex-captivate users who made the jump over to this superior phone, me being one of them.
Cool that you got them to replace your captivate... I wasn't willing to suffer through three more replacement phones before even having a slight chance of getting them to swap... paid Off-contract, with no regrets.
Many of the captivate devs are over here now, which is awesome.
Enjoy!
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Count me in too! Well, almost. My Inspire is on it's way. Can't wait!

You new guys/gals, don't be wimps now, get to rootin' those new inspires of yours', pronto.
Check out the awesome rooting/flashing guide by Mudknot2005, it's a sticky post in this inspire general forum.
I'd link it, but I haven't figured out how to do links in this here xda premium app I've been using for like...ever. ;D
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Enjoy your new toy

Scott_S said:
You new guys/gals, don't be wimps now, get to rootin' those new inspires of yours', pronto.
Check out the awesome rooting/flashing guide by Mudknot2005, it's a sticky post in this inspire general forum.
I'd link it, but I haven't figured out how to do links in this here xda premium app I've been using for like...ever. ;D
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Going to have to fight the urge. I would like to get 2 days out of the stock rom just so I know how it runs. Sadly though, I dont' think it's going to happen. I already have all the rooting tools and a bunch of roms on my pc .

americasteam said:
Going to have to fight the urge. I would like to get 2 days out of the stock rom just so I know how it runs. Sadly though, I dont' think it's going to happen. I already have all the rooting tools and a bunch of roms on my pc .
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The phone arrives today and I'm already ready already hope I can bring some knowledge to this side of the forum once I get situated with the phone!
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americasteam said:
Going to have to fight the urge. I would like to get 2 days out of the stock rom just so I know how it runs. Sadly though, I dont' think it's going to happen. I already have all the rooting tools and a bunch of roms on my pc .
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I was exaggerating a bit in my prior post.
You SHOULD, IMO, spend some time with your phone as is. In fact, I didn't root mine until near the end of my 30 days.
You want to "burn in" the phone, making sure everything works (no mfgr defects), first. You want to be able to distinguish between "not working right because I got a lemon" and "not working right because of a root/flash gone haywire."
Not to mention, it's more of a hassle (but indeed possible) to revert the phone to a warranty-returnable state should you discover a mfgr/production defect after you've rooted.
That point of reference of how the out-of-the-box phone behaves, stock quirks and all, is important.
I'm just now gearing up to flash my first custom ROM ever, and I got the phone on 03/02, so being patient for the sake of being better prepared is a good strategy.
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A lot of my friends and family have been iPhone owners for the last few years, and I can finally say that my phone is the envy of my inner circle now. The Inspire has it all: beauty, brains, and brawn.

My phone arrived via UPS yesterday afternoon, and I set to rooting it as soon as it was fully charged. This was my first root, and the hardest part was making the Gold Card. I would recommend using the Gold Card walkthrough on theunlockr.com Website for the Gold Card. After you have that created, use Bubby's One Click (it REALLY works!). I'm sticking with rooted Stock ROM for now because I like all of the HTC stuff, but I wanted to use Titanium Backup to remove the ATT bloatware. Mission accomplished!

So att goofed and sent me the handset only accessories arrive tomorrow, so I should have a working inspire tomorrow night!
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I literally folded my Crapsung Craptivate in half then tore it into two pieces on Monday night, got a call from my local AT&T store, and my Inspire is in stock, picking it up after work.
Then I'll use the awesome 8mp camera with LED flash to take a picture of the Crapsung Aggrevate and use it in the "How to fix the sh**ty samsung phones" guide I'm going to make.

I also jumped ship. I find the Inspire a far far far superior phone to the captivate.
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born_fisherman said:
So after 4 days of persistence in calling AT&T Customer Care and Warranty, I am going to be a proud owner of an Inspire!
Had the Captivate since initial launch, plus 5 returns! They are doing a "one time only" make/model exchange through warranty.
I'm excited to say the least! I think the Captivate was a great device, just not reliable enough for me. I spent the last 6 months dealing with random shutdowns and frankly had enough!
Glad to see people are enjoying the phone!
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Since you know have a Cappy laying around try this ...
Flash Serendipity ROM from MikeyMike w/ speedmod kernel and UGJK Gingerbread Modem.
Enjoy a screamingly fast, stable for everyday use, sexy rainy day phone!!!

Funny, I found this thread while on hold trying to accomplish the same thing. This'll be exchange #5 and they're trying to convince me that I'm only eligible for a Blackberry courtesy "upgrade".

pkley said:
Funny, I found this thread while on hold trying to accomplish the same thing. This'll be exchange #5 and they're trying to convince me that I'm only eligible for a Blackberry courtesy "upgrade".
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You tell them after four other phones they can take their blackberry and shove it up their collective ass.
Seriously. That's ridiculous. Wtf.
Wishing you luck getting the phone you want... WORKING phone, that is.
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Scott_S said:
You SHOULD, IMO, spend some time with your phone as is. In fact, I didn't root mine until near the end of my 30 days.
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I told myself I would wait, but caved in at around 3 weeks.

techluvr said:
I told myself I would wait, but caved in at around 3 weeks.
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Three weeks is plenty. Just as long as you know how the phone should behave out of the box, IMO.
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Galaxy S 4G for free

T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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I bet its the same deal they did with the g2, you have to make a new plan/new line of service with a web plan to get the special deal. They wouldn't even work with me on the phone over it.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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Get this phone cause I'm telling you ya won't regret it. Ever since one of the devs(drhonk) got the phone to test on things are blowing up around here(I mean that in a good way ) we have cwm and a few roms and alot of Tweaks that are gonna make that sgs4g fly and all your friends are gonna be like "wtf, I wish my phone would perform like that". Lol. But yes I would definitely recommended it especially if its for free. I mean come on that's a deal.
**edit** if what flyinbird93 says is true then that sucks I thought it was free upgrade when trading in your existing phone
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Yes, it's an online only deal, but it seems pretty awesome.
I'm giving up on Verizon since my home area is a known trouble spot, and they're letting me out of my contract for free.
So come on, be honest, let me know all the pros and cons...battery life ? Camera good ? Is Video chat any good ? Is the 4G service good ?

wow. didn't last long. out of stock already

grifforama said:
wow. didn't last long. out of stock already
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Too bad. I scored two for free with a new contract over mothers day weekend. Do not regret it at all. Get on the back order list off you can.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week

I'm trying to get my friend to get one but they are out of stock! Sucks!

There is no better phone, even for the 150-300 some could pay for it. I doubled my original speeds in one day just by grabbing the latest updates here. Trying to get my g/f to snag me another s4g for free during this deal for my daughter, its gonna be a family phone here, lol.

Got the same deal
They had this deal about a month and a half back. This is how I ended up with the phone. I switched over from sprint and am loving every minute of it. Not too big on the unlimited data but only 2gb of high speed cap they have in place but its cool. There is a lot going on with this phone right now to make it really bad ass, hell it is a beast completely stock.

i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.

Liquid Smoke said:
i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.
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I have no complaints about the phone myself. I was sad about the internal storage but once you fota fix that problem is solved. As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification. The ext4 mod makes my phone super snappy and responsive and I can't wait until we get voodoo on top of that.
My co-worker used the Sensation over the weekend and said it seems to have some odd connectivity issues when making phone calls/texts/using data. http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-SENSATION-4G/Sensation-4G-Data-Connectivity-Issues/td-p/875585 Every phone has it's flaws but I hope it isn't plagued by bugs like the G2X (which is an AWESOME phone but just needs a software update).
Don't get me wrong, The Sensation is a beast but I'm not a big fan of Sense UI. I prefer Go Launcher or Launcher Pro. Heck I'd even use the stock Gingerbread launcher over Sense. If you try to run an alternate launcher over Sense it seems to bog the phone down (at least on pre-dual core phones). This probably wont be a problem once they unlock the bootloader though.

Let the results speak for them selves I mean were literally blowing other phone out the water thanks to this community.
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matthenry87 said:
As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification.
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Can you point me in the right direction for this mod? I have frost bionix running, and this mod would just be the icing on the cake. Thanks!
Also, I took advantage of this deal and now my dad will have one of these awesome phones just in time for fathers day. We got the 200 mb data free for a year too. If you take advantage of this deal, make sure to call and ask for free data/10.00 off your data (if you want more than 200 mb)
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Sure. The kernel that bionix comes with has bln support. You need to download the bln app from the market. To make it work you need to push a file to /system/lib/hw. You can find a link to the post that has this file on the bali kernel's thread. It's the fix by chadster I believe.
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Thanks for the info! I appreciate the quick response.
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[Q] For as many people leaving this device

Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...

smashpunks said:
Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...
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bro i was seriously thinking what the hell is up with all the "goodbye g2x here i come sensation" **** why make a thread about it! just do it we dont care i mean i feel for the people that have problems with there g2x but if your going to get a sensation good luck and we will see u later!...and man as far as gingerbread goes yea it sux we gotta wait this long but these rumors are out of hand nobody knows anything so what we gota do is just wait it out

I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
G2X

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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Bronk93 said:
I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...

C0dy said:
Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..

fcisco13 said:
**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
G2X
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dude ebfroyo 1.0.5 looks like gingerbread and its sick quick and u have stock camera great rom rite there that will hold me off till gingerbread comes out if it ever does lol

@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it

sarni84 said:
@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it
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Ill have to check it out.. Development section?

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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How you know half have left? By reading the threads here and then applying the 1/2 left theory, that means TMO sold like 20 devices.
Its dead here because everyone is waiting on the update. Everything else is like dead horse...how do i fix a reboot...wait on you know what. My battery overheats...wait for you know what. My screen bleeds....well so do people hit by cars, but you know what will fix that.
who would put the dev time right now into a new rom when a update is expected "by summer".
My son just called me and told me he's going to buy a sensation. I asked him,, does it have you know what on it? He said..."huh". So much for the really important things in this world.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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One of the cool things about my job, is I get to break things. Up until wp7, tearing apart a ROm and finding out what causes problems was an easy thing to do. With the T-Mobile HD2, simply removing the bloatware made that device a better device. It was fun to sit and demonstrate a problem, flash a clean build, and watch the faces of the people around the table as the problem no longer appeared. I dated a TMO dev for a while...it didn't last.
Bloatware iis the #1 cause of problems, followed by drivers. I'd say problamatic apps would be 3rd. The primary reason for rooting is to remove bloatware...IMO.

smashpunks said:
Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...
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At three months in the Vibrant wasn't "way ahead of this"...even with the relatively easy porting from other Galaxy S devices. We have good development for a three month old phone. With more devs showing interest daily...hell development is the reason I chose this phone. the slight pause you are detecting is probably the devs waiting for stable drivers from the Gingerbread drop.
But if you want to go...go..

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Daffydukc said:
I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Ka-Ching. Its all about the quality control. T-Mobile has usually done pretty good, but has been fading a little bit recently.

I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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hazard99 said:
I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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Go ahead and read (insert new phone) thread you will see the same type of post there also. I'm staying too.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. We all know their WiFi Calling and My Account apps eat up data and kill the battery like no other.
I removed those the minute I got root and didn't have any further issues. I made a thread with all the crap Tmo put in there... even that scary LogMeIn remote desktop crap that they (use for support). Why would I want ANY one displaying up my phone on their screen other then me?
I also think that once they re-release the G2x with Gingerbread, the forums will pick back up. Remember you can't buy this phone right now. Most of the initial supporters are jumpers (they buy EVERY new phone that comes out) plus some that had issues and swapped.
You know thats why Tmo isn't selling the Froyo G2x anymore (waiting for GB). I think its a strong move because most companies just want the $$ and would sell a junk item to anyone. Ceasing the orders will speed up the GB update process (so they can continue making $$).

Oh and let me say HHHHHAAAAEL No im not getting a sensation. I think its a piece of crap. Stop the hate G2x threads.
Sorry about my mishap earlier on this thread, I cant leave this beast of a device.
Especially if Galaxy On Fire 2 comes out this month and they dont post pone it for a 3rd time

Sidekick 4g vs MyTouch 4g Slide(Ordered myTouch)

T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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OK now I have the phone on it's way. I know I can't get s-off but would like to know what I can and can't do until that solution has been found. I am also reading up so not looking for the lazy way out.

ShadyAce80 said:
T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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Pretty sure the Sidekick has reported A LOT of hardware problems.... check there forums here as well, but I do recall it being a high-problem phone.
You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps
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I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?

Yea, it's great. I can't see anything else coming close to it for a while in it's class ( hardware keyboard )
The stock battery is not great - and that's being polite.
You can find links to the battery threads in the contents page of my sticky in dev - basically you have the cheaper Anker or the more expensive Mugen to choose from to replace it with.
If you have/want to spend the money, the Mugen is great - I rock an Anker myself and love it.
Make use of the tv-out through the headphones jack, I play a lot of games output to a tv screen and the device stays alive and active while you are hooked up. I'm sure you can imagine how much more fun racing games and many others will be like this.
You can also find links to the tv threads in the dev reference, which will tell you what cable to get.
I have a Trident case on my primary, and love it. There's a decent thread on cases, but I've been pretty busy around here and haven't had the chance to update it in a while. I'll get back to it sometime.
Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
Any specific questions just toss 'em out there - but there is no other device now or that we know of coming that I would trade this for.
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ShadyAce80 said:
I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
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Depends. For the new update, which you'll have, you got a chance with the HTC unlock tool - if that works you can do most stuff.
We are actively working on a downgrade to S-OFF option - this led to me getting S-OFF to S -ON for us a couple hours ago and I'll be bringing one of my devices up to the S-ON locked state you'll get it in later tonight.
Then I'll be able to actually try stuff instead of us guessing - all the devs working on the fix were S-OFF already so figuring out how to flip it S-ON was a big step in productivity. Once I update in S -ON, I'm stuck until we figure it out - so don't worry man, right there with ya.
HTC should have the issue resolved and restart the OTA in the not too distant future.
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DO NOT SIDEKICK 4G i have that phone and its slow as ****, no roms, very hard to put clockwork mod on it,
the olny good thing about it is the keyboard and i personally prefer the mytouch 4g slides keybaord

@ Blue: looking forward to the success of your work and all that I can learn from you and the other devs. I personally use the Samsung galaxy s 4g and am getting this phone to replace my wife's mt3gs and think I'm going to be jealous from the little bit that I've read.
@wiswis: already placed the order for the mytouch. I posted something similar to this in the sidekick forum and plenty of people have viewed but no post. They made the decision very easy.
Thank you everyone for your input.

Definitely the mt4gs
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Blue6IX said:
Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
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Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.

Fuzi0719 said:
Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
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You know, I wasn't thinking when I wrote that - there was a bunch of GPS stuff that was pushed for the new update, a new SUPL cert and gps.conf file. I meant to take a look at it to see what they did and if it still needed help or not, but haven't had a chance to yet.
Hopefully I'll have the presence of mind to pull them from my other phone now that it's up to date stovk
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Lol
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Get her this phone. The new sidekick was a flop.
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T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........

i think you get the idea by now, but i'll just say, the keyboard is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason you might choose the SK. i've had both, and there is no comparison... MT4GS all the way.

LMFAO! Screw the damn keyboard. I can't wait to dig into this phone and see what it can do. Only downside is my wife said I only get one weekend to set it up before she takes it away. NOW that I have the phone on order and I'll only have the weekend to mess with it any suggestions on what I should start with until s-off is achieved?

Depends what hboot u get. If u get the older one, ur in business. Ez to root and s-off.
Use rubix ics 5.2 with my directions on page 148 of its thread on rootzwiki, if u want stability with everything working and super fast. If she wants ics, tbalden's rom probably. But all the 4.0.X roms are still a work in progress.
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If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
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BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.

I want the stuff that lets me dig in.... my wife doesn't care. she just wants it to work. as far as getting 4.0 on it, don't really care yet either way yet.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.
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You get the idea lol.
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bmw2105 said:
You get the idea lol.
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I know. I couldn't resist, as i just took in my Beamer to get the recall fixed Wednesday

4.2.1 for MT4G S?

Hi folks and devs,
I'm just wondering what might be happening w/ the 4.2.1 update on the MT4G S. It's been a while, and I just wanted to ask if there are plans for a release, or if it's not worth it or what. Since the phone's so old, not sure what's on the agenda, but I've got it on my Acer a500 and it's so amazingly fast, it's unbelievable. Would be so great to have it on my phone as well...
Thx.

I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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Oh wow. That's too bad, man. Sorry to hear that. We loved your work tho! I think you're right in some regard tho - I recently messed with my Mom's iPad, and it just feels better put together, more solid (than my a500 at least). I hate to say that b/c I hate Apple, but it's sorta true. I will never own an Apple product tho, don't get me wrong. I love Android.
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I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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strapped365 said:
I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.

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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.
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I've contemplated going that route, but I replaced my wife's iPhone 3GS with a Galaxy Nexus and it has it's own issues.

I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes

Riyal said:
I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.

I'm actually tired of hwkb, as my phone before this was a MotoCliq. Both hwkbs failed, and I don't much care for the novelty of it anymore.
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.
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When I got my S3 I hated and still hate the virtual keyboard. I can't let go of the doubleshot because of the hardware keyboard shortcuts and certainty of keystrokes for terminal commands.
I did find a workaround for the virtual keyboard though:
http://celluon.com/products.php
I solved the virtual keyboard problem by getting a real virtual keyboard. It's the most awesome thing since slide keypads.
I can consistently hit around 60 words a minute with solid accuracy, once you start pushing to and past 70 wpm you're getting too fast for the device to interpret your keystrokes.
Quick pairing, should work for the doubleshot on any rom that supports a sixaxis ps3 controller, otherwise the htc "no bluetooth input device for you" mantra prevents it working.
@strapped: JB update is sweet for the S3, I have over 317 apps installed and running - pretty much all paid (ad free) versions, not running into any force closes, slowdowns or random errors. They finally learned how to play nice together as a group.
OS actually sees and displays all apps - unlike on gingerbread where you topped out around 100 or so apps before it started losing track of what you had installed.
You just spent too long with the weight of trying to fix everything HTC broke for us here on your shoulders and are getting burnt out from it. There is light down the tunnel.
The lack of hardware keyboard devices on Android will keep people like us either stuck trying to make it right after launch or despising the candybar style device in our hands everytime the virtual keyboard pops up.
I don't know what you'd go to - maybe ubuntu native when it comes into it's own? You're going to have fewer (if any?) hardware keyboard choices going to anything else. Think it's bad now? The "fractured android ecosystem" is why we have a keyboard at all and not simply iclones.
JB solves everything we don't like about gingerbread. Next flagship/near flagship device with a hardware keyboard will have it and life will be grand.
Hate to see you hang on this long just to give up so close to the savoring the fruits of your frustration.
6 months later and I still hate the S3 despite all it does well. If T-mobile wasn't such a joke for national tower infrastructure, i'd have never got one. Travelling randomly state to state for work and needing map data on the road is not possible. Frequently there isn't a T-mobile tower for a hundred miles or more - so when I hit the tiny mb limit for roaming data, they just cut all data services and leave me in the middle of nowhere with no navigation.
Maps aside, an active smartphone data connection is required for my job. I need to send/receive pdf files, pictures and email consistently over the course of my shift - the first time t-mobile cut me off on data like that almost cost me my job.
Things are starting to go right for android users as a whole with JB - give it a chance to trickle back and fix things here, otherwise a little more patience hopefully brings a JB slider not far off...

I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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Whoareyou said:
I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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I would but I have no idea what I'm doing I used to know how to port ROMs, but recently I haven't had time to do anything and Linda lost the ability
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Well we are going to need a kernel lol and I'm not sure what edits need to be made to get 4.2.1 booting.
I did have it on my vision before the digitizer stopped working and has dead spots. And its super NICE. But the only visual difference I seen was the status bar. The lockscreen/widgets seemed slow to load and I couldn't get it sped up even at 1.8 Ghz.
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Whoareyou said:
I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.

aeroxy said:
I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.
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Have you seen the development thread lately? I'm guessing you haven't because we have enough to keep users going. HTC bombed the doubleshot and they know it, anything past GB takes heavy lifting to get going right for us, but we try as best we can.
Just because there isn't a new post every 5 minutes does not mean development is dead, it simply means nothing to post about. I have a thread on the shift section that literally gets bumped by users, but it still gets used still gets downloads there are just no issues what so ever to post about.
Why after all we do, do we still have users like you?

I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?

Whoareyou said:
I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?
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Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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Hmmm, maybe, i tamperd a little with building CM9 for the Espresso, never got past the bootanimation though.... Maybe ill try again