Hi folks and devs,
I'm just wondering what might be happening w/ the 4.2.1 update on the MT4G S. It's been a while, and I just wanted to ask if there are plans for a release, or if it's not worth it or what. Since the phone's so old, not sure what's on the agenda, but I've got it on my Acer a500 and it's so amazingly fast, it's unbelievable. Would be so great to have it on my phone as well...
Thx.
I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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Oh wow. That's too bad, man. Sorry to hear that. We loved your work tho! I think you're right in some regard tho - I recently messed with my Mom's iPad, and it just feels better put together, more solid (than my a500 at least). I hate to say that b/c I hate Apple, but it's sorta true. I will never own an Apple product tho, don't get me wrong. I love Android.
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I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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I'm leaning away from Android as a whole, its all to buggy. Last I seen Bluetooth ffc some keyboard issues ect were in 4.2.1 so its all way to familiar right? Also going into dock mode looked extremely slow to load so all this has made me give up hope in Android. I've been using Android since the G1 and the issues replicate constantly.
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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.
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I'm not giving up on Android, but I am giving up on anything but a Nexus phone. I'm tired of HTC and others ****ting on their customers. This is my last non-Nexus device.
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I've contemplated going that route, but I replaced my wife's iPhone 3GS with a Galaxy Nexus and it has it's own issues.
I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes
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I'm waiting for an ebay item of stratosphere II I don't care if it doesn't have any developer support(I can support a device on my own). But right now I'm waiting for my replacement parts to ship right on my doorstep.
Regarding nexus devices I'm still waiting for the next nexus with hw keyboard. ALthough unlikely to happen I'm not losing any hopes
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.
I'm actually tired of hwkb, as my phone before this was a MotoCliq. Both hwkbs failed, and I don't much care for the novelty of it anymore.
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I forced myself to use the virtual keyboard for a while now. I've become so used to it that now I rarely slide out the qwerty. So, if my next phone doesn't have hardware keyboard, I won't have a learning curve.
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When I got my S3 I hated and still hate the virtual keyboard. I can't let go of the doubleshot because of the hardware keyboard shortcuts and certainty of keystrokes for terminal commands.
I did find a workaround for the virtual keyboard though:
http://celluon.com/products.php
I solved the virtual keyboard problem by getting a real virtual keyboard. It's the most awesome thing since slide keypads.
I can consistently hit around 60 words a minute with solid accuracy, once you start pushing to and past 70 wpm you're getting too fast for the device to interpret your keystrokes.
Quick pairing, should work for the doubleshot on any rom that supports a sixaxis ps3 controller, otherwise the htc "no bluetooth input device for you" mantra prevents it working.
@strapped: JB update is sweet for the S3, I have over 317 apps installed and running - pretty much all paid (ad free) versions, not running into any force closes, slowdowns or random errors. They finally learned how to play nice together as a group.
OS actually sees and displays all apps - unlike on gingerbread where you topped out around 100 or so apps before it started losing track of what you had installed.
You just spent too long with the weight of trying to fix everything HTC broke for us here on your shoulders and are getting burnt out from it. There is light down the tunnel.
The lack of hardware keyboard devices on Android will keep people like us either stuck trying to make it right after launch or despising the candybar style device in our hands everytime the virtual keyboard pops up.
I don't know what you'd go to - maybe ubuntu native when it comes into it's own? You're going to have fewer (if any?) hardware keyboard choices going to anything else. Think it's bad now? The "fractured android ecosystem" is why we have a keyboard at all and not simply iclones.
JB solves everything we don't like about gingerbread. Next flagship/near flagship device with a hardware keyboard will have it and life will be grand.
Hate to see you hang on this long just to give up so close to the savoring the fruits of your frustration.
6 months later and I still hate the S3 despite all it does well. If T-mobile wasn't such a joke for national tower infrastructure, i'd have never got one. Travelling randomly state to state for work and needing map data on the road is not possible. Frequently there isn't a T-mobile tower for a hundred miles or more - so when I hit the tiny mb limit for roaming data, they just cut all data services and leave me in the middle of nowhere with no navigation.
Maps aside, an active smartphone data connection is required for my job. I need to send/receive pdf files, pictures and email consistently over the course of my shift - the first time t-mobile cut me off on data like that almost cost me my job.
Things are starting to go right for android users as a whole with JB - give it a chance to trickle back and fix things here, otherwise a little more patience hopefully brings a JB slider not far off...
I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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I would but I have no idea what I'm doing I used to know how to port ROMs, but recently I haven't had time to do anything and Linda lost the ability
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Well if more people would chip in rather than asking I'm sure it could be done a lot faster
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Is there anything I can do to help?
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Well we are going to need a kernel lol and I'm not sure what edits need to be made to get 4.2.1 booting.
I did have it on my vision before the digitizer stopped working and has dead spots. And its super NICE. But the only visual difference I seen was the status bar. The lockscreen/widgets seemed slow to load and I couldn't get it sped up even at 1.8 Ghz.
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I think this thread got a bit off topic, putting it back on topic, is there ever going to be a 4.2.1 based ROM for the doubleshot? As of now, even the HTC legend has one!
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I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.
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I am wondering for the same question. The development of Mytouch 4G Slide is stopped, seemingly. The devices with hardware keyboards became less popular and developers have moved to non-keyboard devices.
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Have you seen the development thread lately? I'm guessing you haven't because we have enough to keep users going. HTC bombed the doubleshot and they know it, anything past GB takes heavy lifting to get going right for us, but we try as best we can.
Just because there isn't a new post every 5 minutes does not mean development is dead, it simply means nothing to post about. I have a thread on the shift section that literally gets bumped by users, but it still gets used still gets downloads there are just no issues what so ever to post about.
Why after all we do, do we still have users like you?
I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?
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I totally understand that its a difficult prossecc, but why is it being such a pain, itsnt it almost exactly the same phone as the Pyramid? Just wiht a smaller screen and a KB? Dont they have almost the exact same specs? so couldnt you use their device tree just modified for the Doubleshot?
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Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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Yes pyramid and doubleshot are the same specs. I can't use any device tree or build for anything because my phone is more powerful than my PC. PC only has a 1.6 Ghz Single Core and 1GB RAM.
The only thing my PC can do is kernels, and it struggles with that.
But sounds like your on the right track, if you keep searching I'm sure you could come from the shadows with a build.
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Hmmm, maybe, i tamperd a little with building CM9 for the Espresso, never got past the bootanimation though.... Maybe ill try again
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I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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I have the Vibrant now, but Bestbuy has the Nexus S for 100. How do you like your nexus? Anyone here go from the Vibrant to the Nexus?
Thanks for any input.
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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you will get about 90% yes, 10% troll-no
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Keep in mind though that posting here you're going to get quite a biased userbase. People who buy the SNS tend to do so because they're fans of the stock android experience and will put up with a few bugs to have it (none as big as not having working GPS for far too long...).
I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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I came from a vibrant and paid launch price for mine. At that price I have zero regrets and am really happy with the upgrade. At half the price, I wouldn't think twice. Go for it!
i came from iphone 3g, and did a LOT of research for a long time before deciding on the Nexus S. honestly, i love this phone. and a lot of people have asked me about it wanting to know what it is (it's not released in Aus yet).
my opinion may be a bit biased due to the benefits of android (coming from ios), rather than this phone specifically, but hardware wise at least, it feels solid, it performs very well, the screen is awesome, it looks elegant (no branding on the face - a requirement for me). the main hardware downside is that the storage can't be expanded. though i'm used to that, and i can live with 16gb. also the small bump at the back on the bottom may not appeal to some people; i like it though - easiest/fastest way to tell top from bottom on this phone, particularly in the dark, haha.
i would say just go into bestbuy and play with the phone in-store.
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I came from the vibrant and I'm very pleased so far. stock android is awesome and I've had excellent gps so far. I haven't experienced any of the bugs some people have been having either.
overall a solid phone. I would recommend it for sure.
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How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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How do you like not having a Microsd. Dose it bother you? I think that and it not being a 4g phone is what keeps me from pulling the trigger.
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MicroSD is not a problem for me and in Engadget's review of the SGS4G they compared its data speed to the Nexus S and found that it was really not much faster. Of course as the 4G tech gets better, the speeds will get faster but by the time it matters you'll most likely be shopping for a new phone.
sd is not a problem for me. I have about 6.5 gb of music and then I use up 1 or 2 more gb for pictures, apps, etc.
4g isn't upsetting for me either. I get about 5 mb download speed in my area on 3g and that's good enough for me. I mainly use wifi for big file downloads.
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Sweet. I've been wanting the Nexus since it launched, but told myself to wait for a 4.3 inch android, but at only 100 Idk if I can pass that up. The 4g is not a deal breaker the no microsd slot was.but even now my 16gig micro is not even half full.
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Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.
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Depends what you plan to do with a Nexus S. Do you plan to create apps, or root, or flash a lot of ROMs, load a lot of custom skins and whatnot? If so, then yes. It sounds like a dream come true if you are into that stuff.
However, if you plan to use the NS as is, I would actually not recommend it. I love the Android platform, but I've also been very critical of it for it's, unfortunately, many shortcomings. The vanilla Android OS is chock full of glitches ranging from minor, to annoying, to major problems. It's great that you get direct and timely updates from Google, but I'm discovering more and more that all that means is you're their beta tester. Some people get a kick out of that, and some don't.
Do as much research as you can; like Kenvan mentioned though, you have to keep in mind you're in a Nexus S forum. The feedback will likely be bias and skewed.
And if you haven't actually handled a Nexus S, definitely do so, and spend a lot of time with it. Good luck, have fun.
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Yea I like to flash roms and right now its pretty dead in the vibrant section that's why im considering the nexus.
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I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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I dunno I wouldn't waste an upgrade on it and shell out 100 if you already have a vibrant granted nexus s is better I'd probley wait for something else at this point I sold my vibrant for 300 at the time but I burned an upgrade I guess you can do the same I did
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An upgrade wont be a problem. I have 4 lines and no one gives a **** what phone they have. I just keep passing mine down
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Coming from a Hero and an Epic 4G, I can say that even with the existing issues, the Nexus S delivers the Android experience I'd been expecting all along. The phone simply feels responsive in a way that OEMs seem to destroy with their crappy add-ons.
If you felt like your Vibrant had no right to be so sluggish with a 1GHz CPU, then go for it. I paid full price for my NS and it was totally worth it. If anything you won't get those stupid battery-full popups or the bleeps when getting/losing a cell signal.
I wouldn't recommend it. And this isn't a "troll-no," as someone so fanboyishly put it.
The phone itself is absolutely gorgeous. I love how light it is and the screen is wonderful. It's funny the hardware was the thing I was worried about most before I purchased and it's ended up being the one thing I really like about the phone.
The software ruins it for me - and many others, I suspect. There are so many little things about it that go wrong that it's a frustrate-fest for me.
Examples?
Downloads from browser/market are unsuccessful 50-75% of the time.
The phone still loses mobile network connection many times. While it doesn't seem to need a full reboot anymore for me, it still requires an Airplane mode on/off to remedy.
I've still had reboots - just last week it rebooted in the middle of the night and got stuck on the boot screen, making me late for work since the alarm didn't go off
Google Voice constantly has a wakelock issue for me. If I don't catch it early in the day it ends up sucking over 25% of my battery. A reboot will fix it. But now, reboots seem to be deleting my widgets.
T-Mobile's service is pretty bad for me - I know it's not really fair to count as a problem, but dropped calls are even worse than when I had the iPhone on ATT. That said, the problem is not so bad when I'm at home and not moving, and the HPSA speeds I get when I have "H" signal are very, very nice.
This is my 4th Android phone - while I love Google and all they do and stand for, I've actually gotten tired of waiting for the perfect Android experience. I thought SNS would be it, being the "Google phone" per se. Many frustrating bugs and glitches have lead up to one very dissapointing experience.
I hate to say it but I'll probably be eyeing the "iPhone 5" come summertime.
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Yes for the pure google experience
No due the hardware, there are better hardware on the market already
Yes for the price
No due the contract
...It's your choice to make
The ultimate question you should be asking yourself is
Do you want to FLASH ROMs and Customize the phone with very Nerdy and Geeky codes, not easy for the regular user, that just wants a phone to play with?
if you answer is Yes, then go for it
If you answer is no, not sure, not ready, not really, i don't know
then i'll suggest you to look for another phone
T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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OK now I have the phone on it's way. I know I can't get s-off but would like to know what I can and can't do until that solution has been found. I am also reading up so not looking for the lazy way out.
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T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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Pretty sure the Sidekick has reported A LOT of hardware problems.... check there forums here as well, but I do recall it being a high-problem phone.
You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps
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You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps
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I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
Yea, it's great. I can't see anything else coming close to it for a while in it's class ( hardware keyboard )
The stock battery is not great - and that's being polite.
You can find links to the battery threads in the contents page of my sticky in dev - basically you have the cheaper Anker or the more expensive Mugen to choose from to replace it with.
If you have/want to spend the money, the Mugen is great - I rock an Anker myself and love it.
Make use of the tv-out through the headphones jack, I play a lot of games output to a tv screen and the device stays alive and active while you are hooked up. I'm sure you can imagine how much more fun racing games and many others will be like this.
You can also find links to the tv threads in the dev reference, which will tell you what cable to get.
I have a Trident case on my primary, and love it. There's a decent thread on cases, but I've been pretty busy around here and haven't had the chance to update it in a while. I'll get back to it sometime.
Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
Any specific questions just toss 'em out there - but there is no other device now or that we know of coming that I would trade this for.
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I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
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Depends. For the new update, which you'll have, you got a chance with the HTC unlock tool - if that works you can do most stuff.
We are actively working on a downgrade to S-OFF option - this led to me getting S-OFF to S -ON for us a couple hours ago and I'll be bringing one of my devices up to the S-ON locked state you'll get it in later tonight.
Then I'll be able to actually try stuff instead of us guessing - all the devs working on the fix were S-OFF already so figuring out how to flip it S-ON was a big step in productivity. Once I update in S -ON, I'm stuck until we figure it out - so don't worry man, right there with ya.
HTC should have the issue resolved and restart the OTA in the not too distant future.
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DO NOT SIDEKICK 4G i have that phone and its slow as ****, no roms, very hard to put clockwork mod on it,
the olny good thing about it is the keyboard and i personally prefer the mytouch 4g slides keybaord
@ Blue: looking forward to the success of your work and all that I can learn from you and the other devs. I personally use the Samsung galaxy s 4g and am getting this phone to replace my wife's mt3gs and think I'm going to be jealous from the little bit that I've read.
@wiswis: already placed the order for the mytouch. I posted something similar to this in the sidekick forum and plenty of people have viewed but no post. They made the decision very easy.
Thank you everyone for your input.
Definitely the mt4gs
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Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
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Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
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Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
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You know, I wasn't thinking when I wrote that - there was a bunch of GPS stuff that was pushed for the new update, a new SUPL cert and gps.conf file. I meant to take a look at it to see what they did and if it still needed help or not, but haven't had a chance to yet.
Hopefully I'll have the presence of mind to pull them from my other phone now that it's up to date stovk
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Lol
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Lol
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Get her this phone. The new sidekick was a flop.
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T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
i think you get the idea by now, but i'll just say, the keyboard is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason you might choose the SK. i've had both, and there is no comparison... MT4GS all the way.
LMFAO! Screw the damn keyboard. I can't wait to dig into this phone and see what it can do. Only downside is my wife said I only get one weekend to set it up before she takes it away. NOW that I have the phone on order and I'll only have the weekend to mess with it any suggestions on what I should start with until s-off is achieved?
Depends what hboot u get. If u get the older one, ur in business. Ez to root and s-off.
Use rubix ics 5.2 with my directions on page 148 of its thread on rootzwiki, if u want stability with everything working and super fast. If she wants ics, tbalden's rom probably. But all the 4.0.X roms are still a work in progress.
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If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
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BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.
I want the stuff that lets me dig in.... my wife doesn't care. she just wants it to work. as far as getting 4.0 on it, don't really care yet either way yet.
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BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.
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You get the idea lol.
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You get the idea lol.
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I know. I couldn't resist, as i just took in my Beamer to get the recall fixed Wednesday
Looks like this phone dead good thing its my girls phone I got sensation sorry guys
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Well I don't get where u think this phone has died.
In our development section we have someone working (successfully) on getting us CM7, and another person getting us ASOP.
So if anything, this phone is more alive than it has been in months.
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true that. so excited for CM7
Were is gb It's dead for them devs may keep it on lifesupport
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The work on GB just started a week ago. Shut up and stop trolling. The only way this phone will ever get GB is if people like you stay out of the way of the people who are getting work done.
Third party development for the Sidekick 4G has NOT ceased. I can see that we at the very most have 5 active projects continuing. Officially, T-Mobile has stopped support and updates for the Sidekick 4G however. Our only hope, is to support those who are continuing to bust their ass for the Sidekick 4G when they could just go get a nicer phone and develop for that instead.
Source of T-Mobile's Announcement : I can't post it because I don't have enough posts to link to outside resources, just a quick Google search will show you that.
I'm looking forward to a brighter future for this device, please be more possitive. I know this device has potential.
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Then device itself is quite nice. If we do get AOSP/CM, I'll be satisfied with the SK4G for a few more years. Five row keyboards are a rarity for some reason, and I need one for SSH.
JiN1337 said:
Third party development for the Sidekick 4G has NOT ceased. I can see that we at the very most have 5 active projects continuing. Officially, T-Mobile has stopped support and updates for the Sidekick 4G however. Our only hope, is to support those who are continuing to bust their ass for the Sidekick 4G when they could just go get a nicer phone and develop for that instead.
Source of T-Mobile's Announcement : I can't post it because I don't have enough posts to link to outside resources, just a quick Google search will show you that.
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yeah we slowed down dev but look it doesnt matter as long as we are a 4g phone we could do just the same as the epic 4g did and not dev for awhile but burst with everything soon enough it just takes time and devs to get the phone
jnw54 said:
yeah we slowed down dev but look it doesnt matter as long as we are a 4g phone we could do just the same as the epic 4g did and not dev for awhile but burst with everything soon enough it just takes time and devs to get the phone
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That's true, the Epic 4G did eventually get CM support after a long delay.
However, it also has approximately two zillion units in deployment. The SK4G has more of a struggle ahead, with far fewer handsets in the field.
I wish more sysadmin types would realize what a great device the Sidekick 4G is for remote management. Top-notch SSH client, flexible VPN options. That user base could really benefit from the SK4G's virtues.
Another thing about the Sidekick 4G that I like to mention is that on stock, it's crap. Although, when flashed with a custom ROM and proper tweaks applied, the phone's structure and hardware becomes more than worth the price. For example, the price is sub-200$, which is great for this phone. (brand new too)
Code:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-SAMSUNG-SIDEKICK-4G-T839-WIFI-GPS-UNLOCKED-T-MOBILE-CELL-PHONE-BLACK-/330690802804?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cfeb53474#ht_5364wt_1139
Price is 182$ w/ free shipping straight. The only issue is Hong Kong's slow shipping. (also the phone is unlocked)
really i got mine for 120 with it already rooted i didnt have to work at all but its simple to do anyway
I got mines as a gift, I'm hooked on GOv2
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I've been with the sidekick line for quite some time now, they have always been a tried and true phone, so i'm loyal to SK. It was a bit of an adjustment goin from danger to android. (this is my first android device lol) and let's face it, the stock SK4G was a pain... ran slow, choppy, a little disapointing.
But after finding XDA and the awesome people that contribute here, i learned a few things. Had fun learning them too. Now i am happy with my my SK4G completely.
Yea, Tmob stopped production after only 11 months, but like alot of people loyal to the SK line, and with some help from the cool peeps on XDA, i'll be rockin this phone for quite some time.
btw, some rumors about SK gettin another revamp? should be interesting.
Rockin the Glorious Overdose v2 ROM. great work!
Yeah well if you go with the ics that I have it thinks its galaxy nexus which is funny but I think sk might be getting cyanogenmod
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I got mine free 2 months ago with a new 2yr.Stock was junk and lagged way too much,then i went to GOv2 and got alot of freezes now on GGv3 and flawless its a whole different phone,thx for all the hard work.
Not so dead after all
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Jax184 said:
The work on GB just started a week ago. Shut up and stop trolling. The only way this phone will ever get GB is if people like you stay out of the way of the people who are getting work done.
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lol, +1
true that.
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lol, +1
true that.
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Dude.. your signature.. that looks awesome
It all comes down to all phones have different development rates.
If you wanna see a phone that died look at the LG Ally when it came out.
Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
Can you point to a thread where it was said development might be slowing? It seems to me like development is picking up since the release of the kernel source.
The latest AT&T OTA update might slow things slightly because it blocks the old root and unlocking exploits, but I don't think it's anywhere near dead. Still, I could be wrong. Where did you see this stated?
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Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
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Did you just say your buying a phone solely on ROM development? If thats the only thing you want then this probably isnt the one for you. Even though IMO its the best phone currently out. Take a look around the forums and see for yourself if the development is up to your standard
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Im planning to buy it today but after reading threads about how development have been slow and might come to a halt soon. Coming from an HD2 i dont want to buy this phone only for rom development to cease 6 months later. Any reassurance you guys can offer me or should i just stay away?
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looking for develoopment? i will say stay away, and its too late for developers to jump on to this device. might see only few comming here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29773274&page=3
THats the thread
Fasty12 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29773274&page=3
THats the thread
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Ah, okay. Well, not having had any other Android phone, I don't really know what to compare it to. I've been satisfied with the options available, but I'm not a Flash-aholic. There are a fair number of both Sense-based and AOSP-based ROMs to choose from, and so far none of the devs seem to be going anywhere. But, development will never equal something like the S3 or even the international One X, just because of the smaller userbase.
The other factor to consider is that if you get an AT&T One X today, it might very well come with the 2.20 update, meaning you wouldn't be able to root or unlock it right away.
It's not dead yet but even scrosler said that he will be moving on to another phone if something happens to his One X. AT&T should be ashamed of themselves for locking down this amazing phone. However the enthusiasts aren't their target customers. They don't care enough about losing us to change.
The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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Having the same problem with the Tapatalk app.
Also can't get in with any of the XDA apps.
As far as dev being dead. I don't see how. Check out the original development section, the guys are rocking in there and working hard to get things moving. Team Nocturnal is pumping out ROMs and updates for those ROMs. If the ultimate goal of "dev activity" is AOSP, which always seems to be the case, then we are very close.
The sky isn't falling, Chicken Little.
Back when the Captivate came out, people were saying the same thing for the first year the phone was out. Now go check out the Captivate forums. They are still going strong.
I think this has more to do with people not getting what they want RIGHT NOW, than anything else. Everyone wants perfect CM9 and CM10 as soon as they get the phone. It seems like a lot in the community frequently forget that these guys are doing this for free and of their own accord. Sometimes they run into problems like devices being bricked, broken...or not even having the device at all. Sometimes they are kids in HS and have other things on their plates. Not everyone has time to sit infront of a computer and develop for 12+ hrs a day.
I had my SGS2 for a good 6 months before CM9 nightlies came along.
It's also worth mentioning that if you don't at least donate to the devs, you don't really earn the right to ***** about anything.
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Having the same problem with the Tapatalk app.
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When I try to see my posts it says I have none.
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The OP is screwed if he gets a phone with the new software.
Btw, is everyone's xda app working ok? Mine won't connect or let me sign in.
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Mine was acting up earlier but seems fine now.
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If you're looking for a phone with development, go get an N1, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, etc... We got the HOX because it's the best phone on the market right now, regardless of the development scene. We are all thankful that we have a development scene, of course, but I think we all chose this phone before looking at the existing scene. As the phone matures, the scene will only get better.
What's about with the storage? I am showing only 9gb free on a brand new one x. That's just nuts? I thought 16gb was bad, now I am finding its even worse
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Mine was acting up earlier but seems fine now.
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It's still not working for me.
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What's about with the storage? I am showing only 9gb free on a brand new one x. That's just nuts? I thought 16gb was bad, now I am finding its even worse
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Should be 9.93 GB dedicated to an SD card partition and about 2.34 GB dedicated to internal storage.
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Should be 9.93 GB dedicated to an SD card partition and about 2.34 GB dedicated to internal storage.
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Why would they do that? Given that there isn't an external sd slot, this phone has less space then most if not all android phones on the market.
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Why would they do that? Given that there isn't an external sd slot, this phone has less space then most if not all android phones on the market.
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Coming from an iPhone I learned quickly that I either embrace the cloud for music or get a different phone. Luckily Google Music gives you 20,000 songs free and it streams very well, even on high quality mode.
ComposMentis said:
Coming from an iPhone I learned quickly that I either embrace the cloud for music or get a different phone. Luckily Google Music gives you 20,000 songs free and it streams very well, even on high quality mode.
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I don't really store music on my phone, mostly pictures and videos which take up a lot of space. And if you add in a nandroid or two you + Titanium backup backups you are looking at a phone with no more storage room. Man such a bummer... I had no idea it was only 16g I guess I was looking at the International x and figured it would be the same as far as storage was concerned. Such a beautiful phone to be spoiled by this. Oh well my bad
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This is the best phone out there today despite development.
As i said in another thread
F*CK htc and at&t and their development crap we will pull through
Most custom rom flashers seem to last 6 mobths on a particular phone. The first bunch defected to the the Note 2 and the last bunch to the Galaxy S4.
Now i feel like i a droid charge owner after the galaxy nexus release. :thumbdown:
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Did you see hyperdrive just had a major update? I admit it has slowed down but we still have a few options left.
Also beans is going to update (if it hasn't already)
There is also a wip for sense 5 for our phones.
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
Idk about any further, but we'll see 4.2.2 tw for sure I think. I believe I read they're working on it but delayed. Dev work has been better with this than my old phone(droid 3).
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What is the purpose of this thread? Nobody, not a dev nor any "regular" user, owes anything in the form of continued updates for customized software. Technology advances and phones improve very quickly. It's been a year since release and most roms have already improved upon what Samsung put out. AOSP takes the reins about a year after a phones release since that's the time when the OEM stops pushing OTAs. AOSP sees continued updates whereas OEM firmware sees fewer updates.
So I ask, what feature or function are you unable or wanting to use that our phone hardware can support?
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a little bit of this
jmxc23 said:
Most older phones still see development via AOSP roms. The last time I checked samsung is still developing updates on this phone.
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a little bit of that
My phone runs way faster then my friend's S4...
Reaching perfection is a bad thing?
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I personally don't feel the sg4 is worth the upgrade, it should be called the sg3+
not too mention it's getting locked down hard..
That is the primary reason why people are still buying the S3.
Yes. Go buy an s4 asap. Development is currently sky rocketing...
Like others have said, this is an unnecessary thread. A bunch of AOSP roms have active nightlies and several TW roms are also being updated. The problem with TW roms are that once you get everything put into them, there's not much more you can do. The code is based off Samsung source so everything is already there. the only thing there is to do is rebase when a new ota comes out.
Go try out an AOSP rom. They really run well on the s3.
Lol AOSP is still booming on the HTC incredible 2. I think that we'll see stuff for much longer since the inc2 with as old and outdated as it is, its still rocking over there.
I'm loving this phone, there's something new everyday for it.
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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All I have to say is we need to stick together. I think the biggest reason development slows is when the community stops responding to the forums. The people are there but get bored and no longer respond to the development provided even though they take advantage of the development. When the community stops responding the development slows down because developers no longer feel the demand. So if your out there respond and keep things flowing! I posted a thread with a script for CM10 on friday. 200 people looked at it without so much as a "this script sucks" or one "thanks". Maybe nobody cares about that thread I don't know, but when you post and nobody responds you kind of feel like why bother. IMO it's the communities responsibility to keep development going. Not the developers! So if you have something on you mind post it. Let's keep things moving and stick together!
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THIS . very well said sir. :good:
The HTC One may slow down development when it comes, I for one will be getting that phone. I will still be keeping my SG3 tho. (will be the first phone I actually keep rather than sell to buy new phone, I really love this phone)
It was the Galaxy S III community - and its massive, relevant history + recent topics here - which gave me enough how-tos, tools + what-if ideas that led to my:
1. Bringing a relative's phone back from a watery death
2. Rooting + installing a custom recovery on the resurrected, stock and locked phone - despite it no longer accepting touch screen input (i.e., hardware short was evident on the display connector across at least two pins)
3. Pulling 1.5 years of photos and videos + app settings from the partially crippled phone, making its owner rather ecstatic
It was an AT&T GSIII, but it information - much of it active threads - gleaned across the XDA Galaxy S III provider topics helped me finally do the above.
Heck, when I gave away my HTC Droid Incredible not long ago, even that model still had active ROM development happening.
- ooofest
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I wouldn't be surprised if most the devs sell their s4s due to the fact root is now broken and the boot loader is unable to be unlocked.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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djwalter said:
Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Ah yes but they did kill the droid x. I can assume we may see an update that will do the same. So watch out.
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Just don't ever take an ota, problem solved.
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Don't be so quick on that. The HTC Rezound bootloader was locked down pretty good and there was a way around that albeit it involved an insulated wire trick along with software. I wouldn't put anything past these guys just yet.
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Yessir that would be me who did the testing for the Rezound for S-OFF with the Unlimited.IO crew