I have a Sensation 4G running Android Revolution HD 6.7.2 (bought used, came with, never changed it). I'm generally pretty happy with this situation, but there are two specific situations where it just slows to a crawl. As far as i can recall, it's always been this way for these two situations. (I've been using the phone with this ROM for about a year.)
The first situation is when I install any new app or even an update for an app. For several minutes after that, everything is very sluggish. I can still use the phone, but it's a huge pain. This is true whether or not I try to use the just-installed app or update. My best guess about this (and it's only a guess) is that the slow-down is due to populating the Dalvik cache for the new/updated app. Still, that seems like it ought to be a background thing with only minor impact on foreground performance.
The second situation is when I run the Chrome browser. Other browsers (native, FireFox, Puffin) are just fine. When I run Chrome, things really, really, really tank. When I use the developer option to overlay the load average on the screen, I've seen it go as high as 65. I don't care what kind of phone hardware you have ... if your load average is 65, you are not having a good day. Anyhow, things stay zonked pretty much forever, even if I don't actually do anything in Chrome, and even if it's in the background. I've waited literally hours hoping that something just had to "settle", but no luck. I often resort to a battery pull after Chrome experiments because it's too sluggish to wait for the power button long press. (I have Chrome on a couple other mobile devices, and it behaves just fine there.)
Anybody got any clues about things for me to try to alleviate by undeserved suffering?
wjcarpenter said:
I have a Sensation 4G running Android Revolution HD 6.7.2 (bought used, came with, never changed it). I'm generally pretty happy with this situation, but there are two specific situations where it just slows to a crawl. As far as i can recall, it's always been this way for these two situations. (I've been using the phone with this ROM for about a year.)
The first situation is when I install any new app or even an update for an app. For several minutes after that, everything is very sluggish. I can still use the phone, but it's a huge pain. This is true whether or not I try to use the just-installed app or update. My best guess about this (and it's only a guess) is that the slow-down is due to populating the Dalvik cache for the new/updated app. Still, that seems like it ought to be a background thing with only minor impact on foreground performance.
The second situation is when I run the Chrome browser. Other browsers (native, FireFox, Puffin) are just fine. When I run Chrome, things really, really, really tank. When I use the developer option to overlay the load average on the screen, I've seen it go as high as 65. I don't care what kind of phone hardware you have ... if your load average is 65, you are not having a good day. Anyhow, things stay zonked pretty much forever, even if I don't actually do anything in Chrome, and even if it's in the background. I've waited literally hours hoping that something just had to "settle", but no luck. I often resort to a battery pull after Chrome experiments because it's too sluggish to wait for the power button long press. (I have Chrome on a couple other mobile devices, and it behaves just fine there.)
Anybody got any clues about things for me to try to alleviate by undeserved suffering?
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Hi,
6.7.2 is quite old ,now.
Have you considered upgrading?
7.3 has just come out,with very few problems reported.
What does your bootloader say?
malybru said:
6.7.2 is quite old ,now.
Have you considered upgrading?
7.3 has just come out,with very few problems reported.
What does your bootloader say?
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Long ago, on another phone, I was one of those guys who regularly flashed ROMs in chase of ... something (I forget what ). Now, I'm just a guy who wants to use his phone every day with the zillion little application customizations and preferences and whatnot. If I decided to endure the pain of setting everything up again (and I'm probably exaggerating that pain in my brain-pan), I'd probably just flash back to stock. Although the ROM might be the problem, the specific nature of the two problems makes me hope/think/wonder that it might be just some setting somewhere that needs a punch in the arm.
Thanks for the suggestion though. Maybe I'll go poke around the changelogs for Android Revolution and see what's to see.
wjcarpenter said:
I have a Sensation 4G running Android Revolution HD 6.7.2 (bought used, came with, never changed it). I'm generally pretty happy with this situation, but there are two specific situations where it just slows to a crawl. As far as i can recall, it's always been this way for these two situations. (I've been using the phone with this ROM for about a year.)
The first situation is when I install any new app or even an update for an app. For several minutes after that, everything is very sluggish. I can still use the phone, but it's a huge pain. This is true whether or not I try to use the just-installed app or update. My best guess about this (and it's only a guess) is that the slow-down is due to populating the Dalvik cache for the new/updated app. Still, that seems like it ought to be a background thing with only minor impact on foreground performance.
The second situation is when I run the Chrome browser. Other browsers (native, FireFox, Puffin) are just fine. When I run Chrome, things really, really, really tank. When I use the developer option to overlay the load average on the screen, I've seen it go as high as 65. I don't care what kind of phone hardware you have ... if your load average is 65, you are not having a good day. Anyhow, things stay zonked pretty much forever, even if I don't actually do anything in Chrome, and even if it's in the background. I've waited literally hours hoping that something just had to "settle", but no luck. I often resort to a battery pull after Chrome experiments because it's too sluggish to wait for the power button long press. (I have Chrome on a couple other mobile devices, and it behaves just fine there.)
Anybody got any clues about things for me to try to alleviate by undeserved suffering?
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The first issue is because of our slow internal memory. The stall happening when updating/installing an app is because of long I/O waits it probably might happen over other custom roms you try here too but not as long as you said.. I used to have sluggish behavior couple of seconds after app installation (max 10 seconds). Now the only roms which were able to bypass this issue were the sense 4+ jellybean roms viz revelation / viperS 3.1.0 roms. If you want to prevent this annoying issue then change to either of those above roms.. Somehow jellybean roms were able to keep those I/O waits less.
Now to the second issue.. Sensation by default has less ram (yes 768 MB is not enough for ics/JB roms). Now when you fill your device with apps due to true multitasking nature of the Android lots of apps keep on running in the background (even restarting by themselves when killed). And Chrome is one Ram eating b***h it at least needs 50MB of memory (where other browsers like dolphin browser can run smooth over 20MB ram) so it's always slow for me takes ages to open up properly. So my suggestion is switch to different browser or install an app called "greenify" (rooted app.. You need to give root permissions) . The advantage of using this greenify app is it can hibernate persistent apps.. Thus giving you enough ram and battery. Greenify is one acclaimed rooted app which does what it says. Try it and see how the device is doing after this
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FWIW, I decided to take the plunge and upgrade to the latest ARHD. At first glance, it seems to have dealt with these two performance items. However, I'm still installing/configuring some of the assorted junk I had before. I'm on the lookout for the one thing that clobbers me and will report here if I find such a thing. (I'm also working through a couple of FCs of system stuff, but that's not for this thread.)
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anyone else having problems with the most recent update of Juice defender?
Running Kings kernel #6 and #8 (that i've tried, and its causing extreme lag)
seems like this started after last update to it if I recall.
anyone have a rolled back version of Ultimate juice?
Can you give any more info on what exactly is going wrong? Is the touchscreen just not responding quickly, or is the whole phone that's chugging along? Juice defender on my phone always takes a second or so to re-enable everything after I unlock the screen, and I had an issue for a while where that would take 10+ seconds for it to do this.
Wiping the cache and Dalvik seemed to fix the issue, but I haven't the slightest idea why. That's what worked for me, but if you've tried different kernels and wiped in between flashes and you're still having the issue, your guess is as good as mine.
i had to uninstall juice defender... it was causing everything to go so slow.. even the KB would lag that it would input the secondary fuctions like if i would long press... it kinda ruined the BFS kernel if you ask me
Both hardware unresponsive and chugging during scrolling and selection.
Terribly bad.
Its either SetCPU or Juice defender doing it.
I installed SETCPU and did my thing for 2 hours and it was fine.
installed Juice defender, problems arose.
uninstalled Juice defender, Problem persisted.
Uninstalled SETCPU problems went away.
so tried to opposite the cycle and install Juice defender first.
Phone is now problematic again.
So my guess is not only is Juice defender the problem but its causing an issue with SETCPU as well
(I am not using the CPU option in Juice defender before anyone asks)
yeah, like I said multiple roms, using Amon Ra recovery (since I don't feel clockwork wipes well) and have wiped dalvik/cache , problem still persists.
I've noticed that SetCPU has been updated recently, and maybe they just arent playing well together, But even with SetCPU uninstalled JuiceDefender is wreaking havoc, phone is completely unusable, I can barely uninstall the application after its been installed, have to reboot phone and get to it within 30 seconds before it bogs down and lags phone.
Edit: so its not just me? also running kings and last few days with JD installed its killing me, Which sucks because it really did double my battery life.
Literally didn't lose 1% battery when screen was off all night unplugged haha.
I had just installed Juice Defender 4 days ago and I gotta admit, I was kinda hesitant to do so. I have read quite a few posts regarding the slow downs and sluggishness related to juice defender. As of today, I couldn't be happier with it. My battery life has definitely improved (I'm getting at least 5+ hours more a day with JD running). And i haven't experienced and slow downs or delays with any of my evos functions. I'm running cm 6 nightly (forget which one) with snap 7.11 kernel, and setcpu.
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I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
something ruined the App in the most recent update thats for sure, I'll have to report and watch for further development because it truly is great when it works.
The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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The recent update messed everything up, I actually stopped using it after the update because its not helping anything at all. Hopefully the developer gets the kinks worked out.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
Ultimate Juice always caused lag for me when I used it. It is a completely useless app, in my opinion, since SetCPU + the natural battery life is fantastic.
JD
Im running Juicedefender ultimate, 1.8.8 Fresh 3, netarchy 4.1.9 and everything is awesome. batt x 2.46 and no lag
i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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did you hav the "Stable" or BETA version" the BETA is much much better than the "stable".
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I used the stable version, once I updated it ran like crap.
thedudejdog said:
i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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Thx man, that seemed to have done the job.
does juice defender cut off 4G ?
sanjsrik said:
I was stupid enough to actually buy this crapplication. it slows down my system every time I think "let's give it one more try". It slows it down to the point that it is completely unresponsive and doesn't do anything at all but sits there until I kill the application.
If you're experiencing this as well. just uninstall it, best thing you'll do for yourself.
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Most people don't have any issues with this app. Maybe you should check to make sure it isn't something else entirely, or maybe just another app like setCPU conflicting.
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i don't know what version is in the market, but when i'm on sense roms i use 2.1.7 i will attach it for you guys. this one works well on the evo. like really well.
uninstall whatever version is in the market and try this one out
on CM6 i normally just turn data off from the power control widget, this nets awesome battery life.
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whats the difference from the apk you posted to the one in the market?
The one in the market is the latest stable (v1.8.8) - while thedudejdog attached the latest beta available that time. You could also check http:/latedroid.com/beta/latest/ (sorry, as a new user I cannot post this as working link) for the always latest beta (currently v2.2.0).
But as I'm just here: I currently have installed the latest stable (1.8.8), and have some severe problems with it. What is the best way to switch to the beta (to give JD another chance) without losing the settings - if that's possible at all?
My probs with 1.8.8:
As soon as JD is running and the screen switches off, my IRC client (AndChat) loses the connection
I cannot "configure apps" - JD won't save the changes. With a little trick I can do changes here - but settings are always saved for 1 app only, i.e. if I enable/disable app b with this trick, settings of app b are saved - but those of app a (configured previously) are lost. That means there can only be 1 app configured at a given time.
If JD disabled data completely, they sometimes can be enabled only by a phone reboot (yes, I heard this may also be Android-2.1 specific).
With those problems persisting, the app would be quite useless to me: what does it help if I gain 2..5 hours (or even a day) of battery when I'm not able to use the phone as I require? Without JD, it currently lasts for about 3 full days. Gaining more would be nice - but compared to any trouble I'd prefer staying with my 3 days
Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
Mine seems to be getting laddy. Cant really tell for sure yet why. Apps open slower, such as root explorer and some others.....
Mine too, I have all the same apps installed sense I got it and I font know why but its getting laggy. I have it rooted and has stock. I restart then its on for couple of hours then gets laggy, and I check the processing nothing out of the ordinary.
Sometimes a reboot every once in a while can give a fresh start
Yeah. Im still new at this. Im not rooted and on stock rom. For some reason my phone crashes.
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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Today my phone crashed like 7 times and all on different apps
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I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
slider2828 said:
I used to have the problems you guys are all talking about...
Root - Bionix Rom - 1.5Ghz OC/UV... Never rebooted ever again...
Seriously no joke guys....
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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I agree. Using custom ROM's are pretty much like getting a heart transplant. I am running Infused 1.5, and my phone seems like a totally different device. It's more stable, and a lot more responsive, plus all of the AT&T bloatware has been removed. The only time I have to reboot is when I make a change that requires a reboot (i.e. changing LCD density). If you are up to it, I seriously recommend looking in to a custom ROM. Check out the "Infuse 4G Android Development" forum.
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+1 on Infused 1.5....buttery smooth
Clear memory. Hold home, task man, ram tab, click level 2, and clear. Maybe a temporary fix but it works for me.
I don't have time to restore apps one by one.
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Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
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I just flased it to Infused 1.5. Seems smoother. Ill post back if my phone crashes like before
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carhigh said:
Some, including me, prefer to stay stock. I don't care if I have to reboot once in a while
Post Infused by Infuse
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Do you have SPAREPARTS from the market? if you don't download it and go into WINDOWS ANIMATION/set it to FAST and also go into TRANSITION ANIMATION/ set it to FAST as well. this will give you a faster experience.
Backup Apps and Data- Wipe - Don't restore everything at once
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
I think its same as captivate Samsung is doing something on the file system that's why it gets slow after a week
millerja01a said:
I've had this happen to me on both my Captivate and now the Infuse running stock or custom ROM's.
The fix I tracked it down to was...drum rolll. APPS!!!!!
Each app thats installed takes phone resources. If the app is active in the background, when others are all active together, just like a PC, it'll slow it down.
Don't restore all apps at once. Troubleshoot by noting each app install and how the phone behaves. If you were fine before an app or other behavior then things slowed down after, reverse what you did by uninstalling and rebooting. See if the behavior persists.
I had Infused running fine till I added CNN and HuffPo apps. Both of which have background notification services running. After installing them, my battery life went to pot even with JuiceDefender ultimate. So I uninstalled them, fully charged up, went to CWM and reset battery stats.
Upon reboot without CNN and HuffPo, battery use is way better. I did that a couple of days ago so I'll install HuffPo and CNN again one at a time to see if the problem comes back.
Moral of the story. Watch the apps you install. These phones are like small PC's. Be mindful of the effects of the software you install.
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as a general rule I automatically disable background updates of every app I install
Infused 1.5 was a big win over stock. Switched to Bionix 2.0 and now on Infused 2.0. I think Bionix was slower but more stable than Infused 1.5 (both Froyo). Infused 2.0 (GB) seems to be faster and more stable though only running it for a couple of days. About to drop in Infusion-GB OC/UV kernel. Looks like it will make it even faster.
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Hi sense I got the Infuse almost two weeks ago the phone is getting slower and slower and app's are starting to crash more. Has anyone experiencing this? It reminds me the Captivate and the Vibrant.
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Can't be sure but it may be that you have too many apps running on. Each widget from a different app runs an app at startup. I just run Battery Monitor Widget.
Lots of other apps run at startup too. Astrid, Skype, and other calendar/messaging apps are included. Some games (eg:"4 in a row") start at boot though I don't know why.
And the stupid Google market has the startup on boot permission hidden.
Some apps allow you to disable auto start, others don't. I tend to delete those unless I really like them.
My new favorite app manager, Gemini App Manager, makes it real easy to find these apps. Just scroll the list of apps looking for ones that have an orange "AU" icon. Gemini App Manager runs better with root but fine without it. And, yes, I know it has an orange "AU" icon next to it. I just think it's worth it.
Many of the complaints I saw from the OP are complaints I've heard frequently about RFS. One of the main reasons why Stock Is Bad.
RFS is so awful that converting it to ext4 has a well-known name - Voodoo Lagfix.
You can also try advanced task manager
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Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
petrivka said:
Hi all,
I've been struggling for the past few months with terrible performance issues on my Droid Charge. Things like redrawing the home screen and lag between switching programs I can live with, but when it takes several minutes to pull up the dialer to make a phone call or to answer a text message, my phone kind of stops being useful as a phone.
I started off on stock when I got the phone last year, then I rooted it a few months later. Everything was great until June. Gradually, my phone had become less responsive (taking forever to make calls, view and send texts). That plus something weird was eating >2GB data/month, and I could only identify it as "Android OS/others" via Onavo. I decided to go clean and try Tweaked 2.2w/PBJ. Things were pretty good for a couple of weeks until the major lag started coming back. I stepped back and uninstalled many apps, hoping to find one that was the main culprit, but my phone continues to act like it's trying to calculate a billion values of pi or something.
I tried following the steps from the rootzwiki "5 Steps to Keep Your Phone Snappy/Lagfree" (not allowed to link yet ), which helped somewhat, but it has not eliminated the problem. I often find myself resetting my phone to make phone calls. SwiftKey often doesn't load correctly and requires me to enter and exit applications frequently to get it to allow me to type. I had to wait nearly 2 minutes to get my home screen to display until I removed Holo Launcher and went back to TouchWiz.
Sorry for the essay--I'd be happy to provide additional details if needed. What can I do to a) figure out what's wrong with my phone and b) fix it?
Thanks in advance!
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could any number of issues - ranging from a rogue app to the ROM not sticking correctly. when you installed Tweaked, did you do it via CWM or ODIN?
also, did you enable the build.prop tweaks to help with redraws and making calls?
otherwise, I would suggest to try wiping cache and dalvik (sometimes that cleans it up a bit as well rebooting the phone once every few days) to help clear out some of the clutter.
do you have any "force close" messages (such as SyncMLSvc)?
Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I installed Tweaked through ODIN. I haven't heard about the build.prop tweaks though. Is there a resource you can point me to or a quick process to enabling them? I thought that a lot of these tweaks were "cooked" into the Tweaked ROM.
I've got App Cache Cleaner dejunking me every 4 hours, and I try and hit the davlik every day...I still have issues.
I do have the SyncMLSvc force close on boot. I figured it was a known bug in Tweaked and that it'd be addressed in a later revision. Is it a symptom of something more ominous?
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i don't use App cache cleaner, and thus do not have any issues. also, if you have TiBu, you can uninstall that syncmlsvc. see if that does the trick.
regarding the build.prop tweak, remove the # from ro.home_app_adj=1
here is a link to some others: http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Reilly1812 said:
Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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JihadSquad said:
Apparently Facebook is making their employees switch from ios to android so they finally so something about the app.
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LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Reilly1812 said:
LOL! They're all too busy dumping their worthless stock to care.
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Abandon ship!
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I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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cnoevl21 said:
I started usin Fast for Facebook. U cant do as much, but its not a battery hog which i think is super important
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It probably doesn't make you believe your running Froyo again either : crawling and littered with FC's
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Most importantly out of everything is to always check out your md5's and make sure they match. Also try going back to stock with the pit file too for a full fresh install. But I think the problem is the md5 sums unless you download apps off the internet
Edit: also remember to mount system when flashing roms
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Do you have facebook installed? That P.O.S. kills my phone everytime. I install it from time to time just to see if they are coming close to fixing it. Needless to say it gets uninstalled in under 10 minutes.
I know everybody will jump all over me on this but why not try stock rooted FP5 for a couple of days. It will give you a baseline to compare other roms and app impact with. If your phone still acts up it would seem to be pointing to a hardware error IMHO.
What can it hurt?
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So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
petrivka said:
So, an update: I thought it was SwiftKey that was killing my phone, because I was doing better after I removed it. It was crappified even then, even after removing Facebook. I bit the bullet yesterday and went back to stock, updated all the way to FP5. I kept Facebook off (I've mostly moved over to G+ anyways). Everything is great. I put SwiftKey back on, and everything is still great.
I hate to say it, but even though the loss of customization in Tweaked is disappointing, I'm more satisfied with the phone in general with the stock ROM. My battery even lasts more than 3 hours too.
If it ain't broke...
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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my phone usually has that affect after flashing a new ROM. basically it's the wiping of data and cache/dalvik that helps cleans out the problems.
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Maybe...but I've been wiping the cache/davlik fairly often. I had uninstalled most my apps...maybe some weird bug was still manifesting itself. I don't think my phone has been this responsive even after first going to Tweaked. :-/
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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Well as long as your happy that's all that really matters. To be fair - there is nothing in Tweaked that should degrade performance at all compared to what is normally seen in stock. The one difference I could see is that Tweaked is deodexed - and many swear the odexed approach is faster/snappier/whatever-adjective-you-want-to-say-that-means-better than the deodexed one. Hopefully things stay functioning well.
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I hear ya. I figure I'll give stock a go for a while, at least until Tweaked comes out of beta. I'm still counting down the days until I can upgrade to something with ICS. Or maybe even a Lumia 920...
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...at least until Tweaked comes out of beta...
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It's out of beta - check it out here if interested
I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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I tried forever to get PBJ to play nice. RFS & ext4. Gemini App Manager autostart tweaks. MinFree tweaks. All the TweakTool init.d tweaks. The SQL index tweaks. overclocking. Autokiller, other memory apps, JuiceDefender, other build.prop tweaks, etc. I tried it all...
I'm not sure if it was my hardware version or what, but I just could not get it to work well. It always seemed like it ran out of memory and couldn't automatically manage the apps in an overloaded situation. If i manually ran some of the SQL scripts, and killed running apps, it would be ok, but not for long. I had problems losing text messages because I think the text message handler got killed or didn't run in time. I've tried GoSMS and the stock SMS. I ended up relying on Ghostly SMS to help catch the texts I lost.
Once I went back to stock FP1, most of my problems went away. It's been much more stable. So, since then, it's been stock kernel (obviously on RFS). I've been on FP5 with various versions of Tweaked 3 beta/RC and now I'm no the final. All good.
So, as much promise PBJ has or had (who knows what the FP1/FP5 hybrid will turn out like), stock kernel with Tweak 3 is the way to go for me!
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You're 100% correct!!
Please correct me if I'm wrong because I really want to know. The way I see it is, the real improvements over FP1 came from what Samsung did with FP5. Then what Dwitherell did was remove the useless bloat and ugliness then add the useful features and beautify it without changing anything that would hurt the performance.
The first time I upgraded to FP5 stock I noticed the speed increase right off. I checked it out a little and was amazed. But of course it had all of Verizon's bloat garbage in it and none of the awesome tweaks from Dwith. And it had no user installed apps in it at all. It has always seemed like the more apps I install the slower the phone gets.
So am I right?
As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.
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As we are too well aware, the A700 isn't the quickest tablet around. A problem fixed quite largely by using the Cool One firmware and the Tegra OC kernel. But there is something else you could try; Seeder which has recently garnered quite some attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
I couldn't notice too much difference in my short time using it. Launching and using Chrome might be a little quicker and Maps may be a little faster but some have reported large gains with it, so why not give it a shot? nb. It requires root. And do let us know here and in the original thread how its goes for you.
ps. Seeder seems to turn itself off after resetting the device so be sure to check if it is turned on.
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I'm currently running IconiaN 2.4 and I installed Seeder a little while ago via CWM and tried a few things. Maps is definitely faster like most have said. I played a couple games and I found Edge and Edge Extended to be roughly the same, Pitfall is the same, Beach Buggy Blitz is the same, and so is Sword and Sworcery. TigerArcade (a Mame type emulator) runs WAAAY better now, not sure why, but it might be because the games I'm playing use a caching system to load on the emulator. I'm going to try Need for Speed Most Wanted as that ran like garbage last time I played it and I hope it may be slightly better this time around. Non gaming apps: Youtube is lot more responsive than it used to be, ES File Explorer seems faster as well, not 100% sure, Android Browser and Chrome both seem roughly the same but haven't done extensive testing. Lastly unlocking and hitting home from within apps is definitely smoother and faster like others have been saying.
My recommendation is to go ahead and give it a go as it seems like its worth it, plus if there are updates to it that make it any better you can just CWM those right over the current version with no need to wipe cache or data at all.:cyclops:
Thanks for recommending this. Will try.
Is it just me, or do the JB ROMs, custom, official, just rooted, etc, get less battery life than the ICS counterparts?
I first had a HOX back in July/August, and used only ICS ROMs. So I have a pretty good deal of experience with it, got about 5.5-6 hours of screen on time every single time.
Now, I noticed a drop in battery life on JB when I had an S3, and just hated the drain. I thought maybe it was just ROM related, and moved onto an iPhone.
Now back onto another One X, and it seems like I still get less battery life than when I had ICS, and I use it the same way.
Has anyone else noticed it?
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I dunno, I got 6 hours onscreen last night. Just gotta tune it right. And make maps hibernate. That was eating half the battery.
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Your battery is probably depreciating and loosing its full capacity.
Probably not JUST you, but from what I've read and experienced you're in the minority. My battery is definitely better on JB.
I've had much better life on JB, at least since I updated the whole phone (not just a JB rom). I can go almost two days without a full charge.
Hmmm, I'll try a different ROM then. And a JB radio.
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I've had much better life on JB, at least since I updated the whole phone (not just a JB rom). I can go almost two days without a full charge.
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What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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I think he means updated via the stock AT&T ROM, which would include the latest radio.
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What do you mean "update your whole phone" ?
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I ran the 2.20 ruu then flashed the 3.18 ota. Once on that base, I've been super stable with CleanROM and Elemental kernel.
My work phone (my HOX) is running completely stock (has to, effing government policies...) and has had terrible battery life since updating to JB. It seems to mostly be due to maps sucking me dry, which I presume is from Google Now. Maps is constantly waking my device and using whatever data connection it can get, which is why i presume the Now stuff. not sure, seems to be fine when i turn off WiFi, so it seems that the wifi use on google now is problematic. I factory reset the device but seems to still be running the same. I've been losing almost 10% battery an hour when I leave my wifi on with barely any use of the phone . this was never the case when the phone was on ICS. it's clearly some sort of data connection as it relates to Maps usage as i've been seeing high CPU usage by the app and, at times, nearly 50% of my battery life going to the maps process.
Also, just noticed on BBS that the android OS and maps high battery usage may be due to alarm manager...I'm seeing many long awake times for a number of apps. hadn't noticed it as much before because i had booted the device multiple times today. any thoughts here? i know what this app is for and there's lots of info and complaints out there about this process on other phones in the past, but not much for stock JB on the HOX...
I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
It's maps. I don't have Google now and maps still ate half my battery on JB. Only way to get around it is make maps hibernate I've found, but this requires rooting.
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Try Greenify. You need root, but it allows you to stop apps from running in the background. It's not a task killer, which are worse than nothing because they run constantly shutting down apps that keep restarting; rather, it uses system settings to prevent them from starting background at all. You can use it on stuff like Maps if you use another app to convert them to user apps. I've been using it a couple of weeks, and it's worked just great.
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It's maps. I don't have Google now and maps still ate half my battery on JB. Only way to get around it is make maps hibernate I've found, but this requires rooting.
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Try Greenify. You need root, but it allows you to stop apps from running in the background. It's not a task killer, which are worse than nothing because they run constantly shutting down apps that keep restarting; rather, it uses system settings to prevent them from starting background at all. You can use it on stuff like Maps if you use another app to convert them to user apps. I've been using it a couple of weeks, and it's worked just great.
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Thanks. It definitely seems like Maps is the problem for me. BBS shows a number of maps-based apps with long wake times. I charged up to about 95% before bed last night, and am going to let it run down all the way today to see what happens. Will post some screenshots later, if anyone cares.
EDIT: Nevermind, will probably post this in the BBS thread, unless anyone here really wants it.
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I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
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Serially doubt you've tried viper xl
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I have had TERRIBLE battery life while running Sense JB ROMs, (seriously, incredibly bad), versus ICS ROMs. Tried nearly every Sense JB ROM that's out there and countless different radios. No idea why I'm having this problem. I'm not having problems with wakelocks BTW
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Same. 2.5 hrs of screen time vs 3.5 for ICS. Same usage.
Viper JB vs Cleanrom ICS.
Stock everything else (radio, kernal)
maybe not necessarily maps like originally thought, though it's one of the culprits. the mediascanner just happens to hit maps a lot, likely due to it's typically-large cache. check this thread, particularly post #42 and the Google response another 10 posts or so later. sounds like there is definitely an issue with the device indexing and it's the same thing that affected a number android devices. my guess is that some people just dont have a lot of media files (or wipe their phones often enough that they dont accumulate much) and dont see as much of the effect.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37199
there's also a link at the end of that thread to another similar thread, found here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40370#58
i guess we really need to get that 4.2 source. also looks like someone built a sort of patch into CM10 on teh SGS3, but i dont know those forums well so i can't corroborate this. wow, i just ****ing said corroborate, time to go to bed.
Lol, corroborate.
Idk, I still think it's maps. I don't have very much media (2 albums) and disabling maps fixed my battery life (200% improvement, literally).
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Lol, corroborate.
Idk, I still think it's maps. I don't have very much media (2 albums) and disabling maps fixed my battery life (200% improvement, literally).
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yeah, i'm back on this boat as well. maps still has a long wake time i'm seeing location scanner services running so i'm thinking it's a location-based thing. going to let my phone die today so i can get a good BBS log since i screwed that up yesterday. i'm noticing odd dips in battery life whenever the phone wakes up. it seems to stay awake for up to 10-20 mins, but with the screen off. really weird thing is that when i let it sit overnight, there's no spike (just greater than usual battery drain) but it's when the phone first wakes up that it seems to be really draining and staying awake.