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i just installed the OTA update yesterday, and noticed that my battery life has been better today.
i'm wondering if it's the 3G reception that's better and in turn causing less battery strain to search for a network - i previously had a hard time getting any coverage at all at my work, and now i'm getting 1-2 bars with 3G.
also, no faulty reboots at all thus far. (knock on wood).
anybody else experiencing better battery life with this new update?
I was thinking the same thing. Not rooted, stock battery. Updated last night and today was the first time I have ever gotten more than 24hrs out of it. Not much more, but a milestone just the same. Uptime 24:35, awake time 2:55, 13% left. 4G all day, no reboots.
my battery life is actually worse, hard to believe....
im using cm7 beta. im not even going to think about the ota until i see that most users report it works. i bought an extended battery and its not perfect but much more tolerable
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getsoutalive said:
I was thinking the same thing. Not rooted, stock battery. Updated last night and today was the first time I have ever gotten more than 24hrs out of it. Not much more, but a milestone just the same. Uptime 24:35, awake time 2:55, 13% left. 4G all day, no reboots.
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More than 16 or 18 is just a luxury anyways, depending on how many hours per day you sleep.
Yes, I can think of situations where you can't charge overnight while you sleep, but for the vast majority of users and situations, as long as the phone lasts from the time the user wakes up to the time they go to bed, that's all the battery life they need. I don't see why people get so upset that they have to charge a battery powered device overnight while they sleep.
Along the same vein, not sure why people are so adverse to adding a little juice while in the car, or at the computer or at home.
All that said, I don't disagree that battery life is a serious bummer on the TBolt. Even with undervolted custom kernels if you're on the stock battery and actually use your phone a lot throughout the day, you're going to run into worries if you're not able to boost charge a time or two. I've got the extended battery and it makes a world of difference, but it's ugly and awkward and heavy. I much prefer the phone's look and feel with just the stock battery.
omniskye said:
i just installed the OTA update yesterday, and noticed that my battery life has been better today.
i'm wondering if it's the 3G reception that's better and in turn causing less battery strain to search for a network - i previously had a hard time getting any coverage at all at my work, and now i'm getting 1-2 bars with 3G.
also, no faulty reboots at all thus far. (knock on wood).
anybody else experiencing better battery life with this new update?
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Yeah I tried posting about this before, and people called me crazy, but even with LTE on, if your phone is having trouble finding 3G, it will destroy your battery life.
I had this happen when eHRPD when down, and my phone wasn't forced to the standard 3G network and kept searching for eHRPD and it killed my battery. I switched to the standard 3G, had a signal, and was fine since, then turned eHRPD back on before it was back up, and had 4G on, but my phone died in 2 hours, with 98% battery was it trying to find a signal. Switched back to standard 3G and back to perfect battery life.
SO I agree if they fix 3G it will help with the battery issue.
Same silly battery life for me. 4 hours "awake time" and I'm down 35% of my battery. With it just sitting on the arm of my couch. maybe 10 texts, no phone calls, no internet surfing, no email, no facebook, nothing. 11 hour battery life with no use? Absolutely amazing.
I switched from a highly modified DroidX (which I still own) to a new Charge recently (which I absolutely love).
The X had GB flashed with Liberty ROM and the battery life was really exceptional. It did increase when I swapped from froyo to GB, but I don't really remember how much. Using the VZ extended battery (the small one that fits into a stock case) I easily got a full days use out of it with GPS always running, weather updating every 30 minutes, gmail running push and Bluetooth on quite a bit. I can't remember ever once having to swap out the battery before I got home from a day at work.
With the Charge, on the very first boot (before it was even activated), I opened it in odin and flashed to gummycharged 191. The thing runs totally awesome, fast and fluid as hell-completely lag free and has never frozen up once. It blows away the X in every way except battery life.
Today, I started on a mugen 1800 battery and ran that until it had 2% charge left. That took about 4 hours running EXACTLY THE SAME apps that I always ran in the X. I then stuck in an aftermarket 1800 battery and ran that one until it was totally dead also before I left work.
Other than the battery life, I am 100% totally happy with the swap from the X to the Charge. I have three extra batteries and an external charger for the Charge, so having to swap batteries etc is not the end of the world, but I am wondering how much better the battery life would be if I swapped to a GB ROM at this point??
I am open to any/all suggestions at this point......
~John
to add to this, I am running LPP+ launcher with the identical screen/widget setup as I was running in the X.
~John
There's three things you need to be aware of for battery life for this phone:
1. Your kernel - This affects your battery, not the ROM.
2. The screen - The screen is awesome on this phone, but unfortunately it is a battery killer, this can be solved by turning off auto brightness or downloading the Screen Filter app. The screen is also the main draw for the battery in terms of drain.
3. The 4G LTE Radio - this is the largest difference between your last phone and this. If you live in an area where your LTE is spotty, I suggest turning off your LTE and leave it at 3G CDMA. An easy way to get to the toggle is to download the LTE Switch from the Android market. The reason the LTE destroys the battery is due to the fact that your phone is constantly searching for an LTE signal, thus draining the battery faster than a non-4G phone would. If you're in a strong LTE area, it shouldn't affect it much, but turning off LTE does help the battery in most cases. The LTE radio is the second main draw of battery power.
Finally, be sure to remember to wipe your battery stats after flashing the new ROM and fully charging your phone to 100%. Hope all this helped!
EDIT: Also be wary when flashing to one of the Gingerbread leaks. People have been getting mixed signals in terms of battery life, since the leaks aren't exactly stable. I tried out GB for awhile, but wasn't too fond of the instability that Froyo still offered, so I flashed back after a week.
I turned off the auto brightness setting immediately. I run it on 25% most of the time, i only turn it up when I'm outside.
I have been thinking about trying a few different kernels to see what difference that makes, any recommendations as to which one might be best?
I did calibrate the battery after flashing the ROM.
I do have the 4g switch (and I'm in a 4g area) but I haven't tried running for a day in 3G. I think I will try that tomorrow and see what difference it makes.
~John
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I turned off the auto brightness setting immediately. I run it on 25% most of the time, i only turn it up when I'm outside.
I have been thinking about trying a few different kernels to see what difference that makes, any recommendations as to which one might be best?
I did calibrate the battery after flashing the ROM.
I do have the 4g switch (and I'm in a 4g area) but I haven't tried running for a day in 3G. I think I will try that tomorrow and see what difference it makes.
~John
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Kernels–if you don't care about overclocking I recommend imnuts non–OTB kernel.
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Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.
on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha
Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms
I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply
I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.
I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
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This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(
I've been noticing less than stellar battery life ever since I got my One X.
Lately I have noticed that sometimes my One X will get slightly hot under use(around the camera area), and then after I'm done using it, it still hot and my battery drains like crazy.
I turn the screen off, kill all apps, wait 5, 10, 30 minutes, even one hour I have waited, and the phone is still warm!
I don't use any apps that run in the background or have services that use a lot of battery. I've checked logcat, betterbatterystats, Cpu Spy and can't find anything wrong. I've tried different roms and the same thing happens.
The fix is simple. I just power it off and on and the problem goes away for a few hours, but then comes back! When I power it off, the area gets ice cold in less than 3 minutes , which tells me something is going on.
I can't figure out a pattern to trigger it but it seems to happen most when my phone switches to WiFi from LTE or vice versa.
Has anyone noticed this? It's been incredibly frustrating.
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After months and months the problem has been found and resolved. It was due to an LTE bug that would happen in certain areas(such as subway stations) if you lost all signal and then regained. The phone would get warm and battery would drop significantly, as much as 2% per minute. The drain would not stop until a full restart.
After trying many many roms, and after about a month testing it, this one has the problem fixed. I haven't tested other ROMS and quite frankly it works so well that I didn't bother testing for other ROMs.
I have this problem too. I put mine to sleep, after waking up from an hour nap the darn thing is hot! And of course the battery drained like crazy. Although it's too early to come to a conclusion, but so far it hasn't happened ever since I turned off autosync and wifi every time I take a nap..
Run betterbatterystats and carat, they can all identify various issues.
My phone does not deep sleep at all. Wtf?
I'm having the same problem, carat and bbs aren't helping
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See if there are rouge apps running in the background that are keeping the phone from deep sleeping.
Go to Settings -> Wifi -> Advanced -> Best Wi-Fi Performance and make sure it's unchecked. It's been known to prevent deep sleep. I'm not sure it would cause such a huge drop in life or the heat, but every little bit helps.
Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm an advanced user, I've tried everything, carat, BetterBatteryStats, aLogcat, System Panel, Cpu spy, you name it. The phone is actually deep sleeping.
Also, I've noticed that the radio area gets hot more than the cpu area, so it might be a radio issue? I'm running baseband 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08U .
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Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm an advanced user, I've tried everything, carat, BetterBatteryStats, aLogcat, System Panel, Cpu spy, you name it. The phone is actually deep sleeping.
Also, I've noticed that the radio area gets hot more than the cpu area, so it might be a radio issue? I'm running baseband 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08U .
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I'm on 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L (same as you, except for the L). I noticed that you mentioned that it may be when you're switching between WiFi and LTE, maybe it's continuing to hold on to that LTE connection? Also, where is the radio area in relation to the CPU? I know the CPU is right underneath the camera.
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I'm on 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L (same as you, except for the L). I noticed that you mentioned that it may be when you're switching between WiFi and LTE, maybe it's continuing to hold on to that LTE connection? Also, where is the radio area in relation to the CPU? I know the CPU is right underneath the camera.
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What is the difference between the L and the U? I've never flashed any radios so I guess I'm using the stock one from the 1.85 update.
I actually just assumed it's the radio because I was testing a cpu stress app to see if it would get "locked" in a high frequency thus causing the drain, but the area that got hot was to left of the camera area, and usually when the problem happens I can sense the warmth more to the right, around the LED flash.
I just charged my phone to 100% and it got warm, I unplugged it and waited a few minutes and the phone was still hot. I turned the phone off and in a matter of minutes (Like 4) , the phone was ice cold again. The plot thickens...
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What is the difference between the L and the U? I've never flashed any radios so I guess I'm using the stock one from the 1.85 update.
I actually just assumed it's the radio because I was testing a cpu stress app to see if it would get "locked" in a high frequency thus causing the drain, but the area that got hot was to left of the camera area, and usually when the problem happens I can sense the warmth more to the right, around the LED flash.
I just charged my phone to 100% and it got warm, I unplugged it and waited a few minutes and the phone was still hot. I turned the phone off and in a matter of minutes (Like 4) , the phone was ice cold again. The plot thickens...
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I don't know what the difference is. I'm running CleanROM DE so it could be that the L is just the radio from 1.88. I never had this heat issue on 1.73, 82, or 85 though. Just the normal amount that threatens to burn your hand off while playing Angry Birds. Maybe try disabling LTE? (Don't ask me how to do that)
stnguyen09 said:
I don't know what the difference is. I'm running CleanROM DE so it could be that the L is just the radio from 1.88. I never had this heat issue on 1.73, 82, or 85 though. Just the normal amount that threatens to burn your hand off while playing Angry Birds. Maybe try disabling LTE? (Don't ask me how to do that)
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Disabling LTE (By changing the APN settings) , makes my 4G(Non-LTE) connection unstable, for some reason. I experience a ton of data drops , so even if fixes the heat problem, it would create a new one. My data connection is rock solid when using the LTE APN .
I'm running stock 1.85 and the battery is great
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I had a similar problem before until I installed CleanROM LE 2.0 (and above) I noticed the problem when I connected to wifi after I had lost signal from my commute every day. BBS didn't really help, and it seemed the problem would compound over time, eventually getting to a point where I was losing 3% battery ever couple of minutes.
After I installed the Lite Edition, the problem hasn't appeared since. Battery life seems to be draining normally and the phone doesn't get hot when not in use. It could be something that was removed from Sense that helped the issue, but I'm honestly not sure.
I do remember that before I switched to the Lite edition I tinkered with some settings, and I noticed that Latitude was set to update my location. I turned it off (it's off by default on the Lite Edition ROM), but I'm not sure if that helped my problem. Maybe try disabling that and see what happens.
WuTofu said:
I had a similar problem before until I installed CleanROM LE 2.0 (and above) I noticed the problem when I connected to wifi after I had lost signal from my commute every day. BBS didn't really help, and it seemed the problem would compound over time, eventually getting to a point where I was losing 3% battery ever couple of minutes.
After I installed the Lite Edition, the problem hasn't appeared since. Battery life seems to be draining normally and the phone doesn't get hot when not in use. It could be something that was removed from Sense that helped the issue, but I'm honestly not sure.
I do remember that before I switched to the Lite edition I tinkered with some settings, and I noticed that Latitude was set to update my location. I turned it off (it's off by default on the Lite Edition ROM), but I'm not sure if that helped my problem. Maybe try disabling that and see what happens.
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Wow,I have a very similar usage pattern. I will try that and report back
Can anyone chime in on the difference between the L and the U in the radios?
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There's a thread with flashable versions of all the known radios floating about...There's nothing with a U in it except the Asian radio, but the rest of the baseband version number doesn't match.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
stnguyen09 said:
There's a thread with flashable versions of all the known radios floating about...There's nothing with a U in it except the Asian radio, but the rest of the baseband version number doesn't match.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
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He fixed that now so even the Asian version apparently ends with an L. Does that mean I have an unkown baseband? doubtful. I have installed sick sense hox and so far so good. We'll see.
deep sleep and warm back.
I've noticed this, too.
I've woken up in the middle of the night to encounter my screen on and no gain in battery charge with a super warm back.
Last night I plugged it up at 73% and I woke up this morning with 71% and a fry-an-egg-hot back.
Restarting resolves the issue, and this is only the second timein about 1.5 months, but a concerning issue nonetheless.
Blame calendar sync
I had the exact same problem, and I narrowed it down to auto-sync.
In particular, my phone was constantly sync'ing my work calendar (my work place uses Google calendar/mail). I have a lot of recurring (weekly) events on that calendar, and one of those events was modified shortly before the sync started acting crazy.
How I fixed it:
1. Go into Settings > Apps > All
For "Calendar" and "Calendar Storage" apps, press the "Clear Data" button.
2. Removed my work Google account and re-added it.
Obviously, if it's not the sync that's causing the battery drain or you don't have any calendars synced, then this is not going to fix anything. Just thought I'd share my particular case with everyone.
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
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Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
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Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.