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I896, Rooted, factory Gingerbread.
I have a Captivate and a Tab. Both Wifi only, no Sims, Airplane mode on, Bluetooth off. Machines are on but screen is off. The Tab looses 3% over the course of the morning and the Captivate looses 20%!
I'm running regular 'power user' type apps; Titanium Backup, Tasker, LauncherPro. If there are any apps notorious for secret batt consumption, let me know what to avoid.
Running SystemPanel Lite - I can't see any app that is taking up more CPU time than normal that would explain this kind of drain. The battery page shows a good proportion of battery use display and wifi. In one instance I used the Captivate so little that display showed less use than wifi. In the course of just checking phone power consumption, the display use percent way up, just like expected (Just to show that wifi was really doing almost nothing) and still I had lost more than 15% of battery over the time when the phone was supposedly idle, not connected to anything with the screen off. Some ghost is sucking the life out of my battery. Grrrr. What could it be?
I loose 30% in a night with wifi off, backlight set to absolute min and nothing runninng or syncing.
I don't get it. Any ideas? What do I try next?

get use to it, its androids horrible power management

rsx19 said:
get use to it, its androids horrible power management
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His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.

Have you tried Juice Defender?
Also, check to make sure you don't have applications constantly running. What version of android are you running? Check in system settings -> status -> somewhere in here you can check the battery status and what applications are pulling the most juice ... From there if one application needs to be removed you can action it ...

Also try the "Battery Calibration" app in the market. It's free.

studacris said:
His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.
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my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate

Menu -> Settings -> Wireless and Networking -> Wi-Fi settinngs -> Menu -> Advanced -> Wi-Fi sleep policy
Set it to when screen turns off.
We have to switch that every time we flash. I really wish it was default. Some ROMs also have background data control, but it's usually when wi-fi is on so it shouldn't be a problem.

rsx19 said:
my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate
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You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.

studacris said:
You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.
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I'm on CM7 and am going on 27 hours with moderate usage.. Granted, I have the 1800 mah battery from the Sprint Galaxy S2

trying flashing to pinnacle. I too have battled weird captivate drain issues.
if you wanna try CM, read my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364357

I've held off replying as I was trying a few things and figured I would report only once I was done.
I found and ran Battery Calibration, just before I read the post. Between that and turning Wifi sleep policy to off with screen off, I had a great weekend. I was getting a day and a half out of my phone, which considering the use, was very acceptable. I was getting about the same drain as my Tab. I had 1% battery drain after 4 hrs of screen off time. That seemed fine for me.
I got back to school where I teach and yesterday the phone drained as fast as it has before. Interestingly, it continued its rapid drain even after I left the school and went back home. So, it died at 4am this morning. I heard it shut down. The school has at least 4 routers, two of which have 5k access options. I know if I choose them, my laptop drains way faster. Is there a way to limit my wifi connection on the captivate and not use the faster 5k connection?
But, this still doesn't explain why, even after I leave the school, the Captivate continues to drain when it is 10ft from a single 100mb wifi router.
I'm almost ready to try a custom Rom, but not sure how that will affect my ability to use it as a phone, once I get my Sim activated. Still new to this all.

You think everyone running a custom ROM doesn't use the phone?
Shouldn't affect your ability to do anything...

The WiFi and cell radio do increase power on lower signal as we know, but that's not always the cause of drain. I remember times using Froyo when kswapd goes nuts for no reason, or trillian, email, twitter or some other app just starts using massive CPU. Many apps are probably never tested on a system that has no connection most of the time. That's where all the utilities come in handy to find the culpret. OSMonitor can help find CPU hogs. TiBu can freeze apps, or uninstall them temporarily. Juice Plotter can monitor drain over time (newer Androids have something like it built-in). It takes some time to find it, but newer versions of the OS make it easier and have less trouble.
Also the battery % is only estimated. I'd trust full to empty time rather than 90% to 80% time as 10% use since it's not really as linear as we think.

Not to point out the obvious, but it can be the battery itself that has the problem. They aren't exactly manufactured to NASA standards... well, maybe their standards lately, but the point is, sometimes the ghost you're chasing is staring you right in the face.

Guess, I get to ask for help. [Ticket Closed for Now]

Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.

on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha

Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search

Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.

Wulamoc said:
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.

Wulamoc said:
Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues

fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?

Darunion said:
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms

I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.

Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply

I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.

I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.

I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
Zombies ate my Inspire

DynamiteRave said:
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
Zombies ate my Inspire
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(

Is anyone else getting massive battery drain?

Since I upgraded tp 4.0.4 my battery life has been completely terrible (nexus s GSM, stock, latest glados kernel) even though I don't use it the entire day, it drains over half in about 4 hours. Anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? It was perfectly fine before the update and would last days if I didn't use it, and about 12 hours if I did. Right now it's just unusable.

BetterBatteryStats and/or a fresh install (data/factory reset, format /system, optionally format /boot, install ROM).

HosainH said:
Since I upgraded tp 4.0.4 my battery life has been completely terrible (nexus s GSM, stock, latest glados kernel) even though I don't use it the entire day, it drains over half in about 4 hours. Anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? It was perfectly fine before the update and would last days if I didn't use it, and about 12 hours if I did. Right now it's just unusable.
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Are you using a custom ROM?
I've had the same problem when I was in stock 4.0.3, which is why I decided to root my phone and resort to custom ROM's and kernels. Now my phone is doing ok in the battery department and is also much more snappier and smoother. Oh and most custom ROM's are already using 4.0.4 anyway.
Let's try and be scientific about your problem, here are some things you may want to try out first to improve battery life:
turn off wifi when not in use
turn off automatic syncing if you don't need it
set your network mode to 2G only if you're not using the internet
turn off mobile data when not browsing/using the internet
install the watchdog lite app/widget from the Google Play store so you can monitor rogue apps that are sucking up juice
do not set your screen brightness to AUTO, but manually adjust it when you need to. you can do this either in the settings menu or thru the power control widget
This are the things I can think of off the top of my head. If this doesn't improve your battery life, even just a bit, you may have no choice but to resort to drastic measures....and go to the dark side.
Hope this helps! Cheers!

mine is okay
Batt I think it quite good on 4.0.4. I can get about 23hrs of usage. Some wifi, some 3g (fb, whatsapp, updating apps, email), some music. Stock ICS.

I had this issue after stock 4.0.4 update from 4.0.3.
I found mediaserver using more battery than it should, so I;
1) Copied all files and folders from /sdcard to PC
2) Re-format /sdcard
3) Re-store all files and folders back to /sdcard
Mediaserver process is now minimal and battery is good again

Ok thanks for the suggestions guys, reformatting my phone would be alot of effort on my part due to how much time I spent setting it up so I would like to use that as a last resort.
I installed battery stats but I can't decipher what it's saying so if someone would be as kind to explain? I took screenshots of everything in an album and I would really appreciate it if someone had a look in the album below.
http://imgur.com/a/RAtmF

Well for one, you have chunks of bad signal(red bars). That right there can kill a battery quickly. The other stuff you may be better off saving the dump file and posting it as an attachment over at the BBS thread. The guys over there are pretty informative and may be able to give you more stuff to look at to help you out.

The red bars are when I was using the underground, the battery drains just as fast overnight. I will look for that thread, thanks.
Edit: I do not stay on the underground overnight, and I have a good signal in my apartment (you can see it's fine when I arrive)

HosainH said:
The red bars are when I was using the underground, the battery drains just as fast overnight. I will look for that thread, thanks.
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yep...a weak network signal will drain your battery a lot faster. if you're not using it to text, call or surf, or if you're just going to play games, might as well go airplane mode for a while, or at least until you get above ground where the signal is stronger.

After a good couple of hours not using the phone in a good signal area create a log and post it. Preferably get the hours just after charging.

Harbb said:
After a good couple of hours not using the phone in a good signal area create a log and post it. Preferably get the hours just after charging.
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ok will do.
Edit: should mention I just remembered I had it on airplane mode overnight once and it still drained.

Ok here is the dump file:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14208458/BetterBatteryStats-2012-05-03_062227218.txt

Ok nevermind just did a reformat new rom etc.

Sorry guys, but after reinstalling I am STILL getting the battery drain issue.. Was a clean install but reinstalled all my old apps and settings. from full to 28% in 5 hours with very little usage.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14208458/BetterBatteryStats-2012-05-05_014902302.txt
Please someone take a look!!!

I'll have a good look tomorrow with some suggestions. Had a fair bit on the last couple days with minimal internet access.

What ROM and Kernel are you using right now?
There are a couple of interesting details there but nothing that i can point out that will take you from 100% -> 30% in that time.
Some things to test:
-Turn phone off (noting charge), remove battery, replace battery, leave phone off overnight and turn it on in the morning, again noting the new charge
-Keep data off and see if battery is still draining / Airplane mode
-Uninstall half of your apps and see if it still happens. If not, add half of the apps you uninstalled. If so, uninstall half of the apps you have left, and so on.
-Do a clean install and try for 2 - 3 days, see if it still happens (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
-Attempt going back to Gingerbread and try for 2 - 3 days (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
These steps can (and should) be done pretty much in order and will rule out ALOT of possible reasons and give possible solutions some merit. Let me know how this goes.

Harbb said:
What ROM and Kernel are you using right now?
There are a couple of interesting details there but nothing that i can point out that will take you from 100% -> 30% in that time.
Some things to test:
-Turn phone off (noting charge), remove battery, replace battery, leave phone off overnight and turn it on in the morning, again noting the new charge
-Keep data off and see if battery is still draining / Airplane mode
-Uninstall half of your apps and see if it still happens. If not, add half of the apps you uninstalled. If so, uninstall half of the apps you have left, and so on.
-Do a clean install and try for 2 - 3 days, see if it still happens (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
-Attempt going back to Gingerbread and try for 2 - 3 days (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
These steps can (and should) be done pretty much in order and will rule out ALOT of possible reasons and give possible solutions some merit. Let me know how this goes.
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Using latest stable cyanogenmod + tried glados and netarchy and matrix kernels, all the same result. Will try what you said, also I bought a replacement battery to see if the actual battery is faulty (weird because it used to be fine). As for the airplane mode thing I already tried that, to no avail.
edit: should add that was using stock 4.0.4 before cyanogenmod.

Quick battery drain & constant data being sent since 1.78 OTA

Hi,
I've got an HTC One S since a few weeks (got it with the 1.57 FW I think). It's a stock one, not from a carrier. No branding.
The battery life was great, 2 to 3 days with normal use.
But yesterday evening I proceeded to the OTA update and since then, trouble began
Battery life is much, much lower. After 12 hours standing on my desk in the office, I got 10% remaining!
Anytime I switch the screen ON, I see there is some data being sent (or received) because the "arrows" are full. If I check in system panel lite, there's always 1 or 2 kb/s of traffic.
Also, the phone is a bit warm, quite often.
Has anyone else noticed this? That's rather annoying :/

Could be faulty? I have the same phone with no carrier or branding and not had any problems at all.

Like faulty hardware? Seems unlikely to me since it worked well with 1.57. Also, sending data isn't hardware related

Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/

Try an app called Badass Battery monitor. It should tell you what's eating your battery.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
Sent from my rooted and debloated T Mobile HTC One S

I have to say, this phone, at least mines, seems to have a pretty bi polar battery. It's got a case of ADHD.
For example, just the other day, I had the phone fully charged when I awoke at 9am, after playing Temple Run, surfing the web, using GPS, streaming and listening to music, playing more Temple Run, fiddling around with the OS, checking emails, sending texts, talking on the phone a bit, downloading apps, with about 25-30% brightness, I ended up with 18% battery remaining after a good 11 hours of very heavy use. I was quite pleased, considering the inordinate amount of usage I had with the phone all day.
(BTW, I use Juice Defender, which has helped tons in reducing battery drainage for almost every phone I've owned in the past 3 months, including the One S)
Yesterday, I had the phone charged at 100% when I awoke at 9am, with a little bit of use, by 12am, I had 63% remaining, same brightness, but with much much less use then the day prior. By the time 3pm hit, I was at about 30%, and by 5pm, it was drained to 18%, mostly on standby. By my estimation, that's 8 hours of usage, same brightness levels as the day before, using Juice Defender, but with much much less fiddling around with pretty much everything on the device.
I went ahead and disabled Juice Defender today to see if it would make a difference, and the battery actually got a bit worse, so I went ahead and re-enabled it and it immediately improved.
So I'm a bit perplexed, I haven't gotten any official updates, still running on the original stock build, but ultimately, I guess this is what is too be expected with an early build. Hopefully future updates WILL fix these issues and not hinder them more. Granted it's still much better then my HTC Amaze and Galaxy Nexus, which drained 4% the moment I took them off charger.

Thanks for your input, I'll check again today how the phone goes.
I played with all the settings and menus yesterday, and found something strange. In the "downloads" app, there was a "system update" download. That's quite normal since I downloaded and applied the OTA the day before. But it was referred as "ongoing", like it was still downloading a part of the OTA zip file AFTER I applied it (and rebooted a couple of times)
In phone settings, about, updates, it was also written "ongoing"
Now this is over (I don't know why and how) and the network usage seems back to normal. I'll try today to see how the battery drain is
Anyway, it's s strange the phone was still downloading the update zip file after having applied it. AND that it was downloading it on the 3G at a very lowered bitrate (like background) while I downloaded it on the wifi the day before
Anyway...

The battery life of my One S seems to have declined as well since the update. Before the update my battery lasted 2 days easily with moderate usage. Now I have 20-30% left at the end of the day from a full charge since 9am. This is with very light usage (mostly on standby from 9 to 5).
I did turn on best wifi performance recently so I just to turned that off to see if it helps but I really doubt that.

Hello guys, I have same problem, but my phone wasting energy on "phone radio" process, just look at screens below. I tried using stock Rom with last update, trickdroid, and now it happend on leedroid v.2 . Btw I changed 4 micro sim cards with several providers, but no result. I really need help with this issue, because my battery draining very very
fast...
Thank you
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA

I had a similar problem a few days ago, using Lee´s ROM.
I noticed that the drain had something to do with autosync. As soon as I turned off autosync (leaving mobile internet on) drainage went back to normal.
I still don´t know what caused this since I only had the google account, weather and dropbox installed.
Anyway, after doing a fresh install, the problems seem to have gone.
Of course I can´t be completely certain of it until some more days of testing/usage.

I also noticed quite a few problems since the latest OTA update.
Not only does the battery drain fast, the phone also feels extremely hot when browsing on 3G.
The phone does cool down pretty quickly when turning off 3G but it feels like I burned my hands
Here are a few screenshots.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-46-08.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-51-52.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-59-10.png
I also experienced weird things when connected to EDGE (2.75G).
3G (HSPA) coverage on BASE (KPN) sucks in Belgium
Look at the video below for more details.
Has anyone else experienced this yet?
http://youtu.be/3g8FLpWDAYM
I also contacted HTC about this issue and they recommended a hard reset.
Unfortunately this doesn't help at all, I still get these weird glitches

mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.

keinengel said:
mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.
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Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.

Bricolo_fr said:
Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/
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I just fixed someone else phone that had the exact same symptoms. In the end I narrowed down the problem to one of his weather apps.
He had a live wallpaper that reflected the current weather, weather on his lock screen and a beautiful widgets weather thing. I never did figure out exactly which one it was I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
I don't know if it's something "weather" related for you but it maybe it will help.

mattionline said:
Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.
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you don't need root, just enable usb debugging in development options and connect the phone to your pc. You need to have the android sdk installed.

Sup guys , some of you don't seem to realize that there are many reasons why your battery drains, what you might think is, "quickly". A few tips to keep minimal battery out put...1 keep brightness down, the screen itself sucks juice probably the most. 2 check your apps, some apps send and receive data and/or are kept running in the background. You might have to enable/disable setting on shove apps. 3 widgets, widgets like battery meters, CPU meters, things like this constantly refresh to keep real time info. That also eats up alot of juice . 4 Turn off WiFi or any other thing like that when your not using it. WiFi continually sucks nice. Lastly, invest in some app that will help you close apps. Basically, tweek everything you might think that the os can run without. The less your CPU has to do, the more juce you save.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA

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[...]I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
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This made me lol hard.
Best advice ever.
But yeah, on the 1.0 version of Leedroid I had quite some drain, too.
When I turned off autosync it went back to normale. I only had my google account, dropbox (with syncing off) and the weather thingy set up and never figured out which one was resposible.
After installing Lee´s 2.0 ROM everything is fine.
I suppose there really is something wrong with the autosync and maybe with the weather stuff in particular.

My problem didn't go away with stopping auto sync, even without it, I had a constant data flow
Anyway, I rebooted the phone twice and the issue was gone.
It happened again a few days later, after the phone did shut down because of low battery. I put it on charger and turned it on, then, I noticed the 3G arrows were always on. After I unplugged it from the charger the battery went down in 10 hours. After a reboot, problem gone...
Since then, nothing...

And please note than when the problem is here, it's media and android os using a lot of data

I have been having one S problems too - I am on my second phone after the first one became reliably unresponsive every time I turned on mobile data. More relevant to this discussion, my battery died shockingly last night. Normally it drains at a few percent an hour when I am not using it (i.e. when asleep!) but I woke this morning to find it totally dead - that is 30% plus gone in 5 hours without it being in use.

[Q] Bad Battery, Send to HTC?

Hi everyone.
Recently, in the past 2-3 months, I've had MAJOR problems with my battery, i.e.. unreasonable battery drain.
I used to get very decent battery life with my HTC One X, especially when using Sense ICS ROMs.
Since early this year, however, I've experiences severe battery problems.
The most troubling thing however, is the battery drain with Airplane Mode ON. It used to be (and with every other phone I've owned), if Airplane Mode was ON, battery drain was VERY low, even when playing music or something. And in deep sleep, there should be very very little battery drain.
However now, even when turning Airplane Mode ON, the battery still drains considerably – like 0.75 - 1 % an hour. And this is with the phone in deep sleep (I checked).
And with Airplane Mode OFF, the battery drain is really bad. I get great LTE/HSPA+ coverage in my house, usually a full 3/4 bars. But if I go to sleep with the phone at 80% battery, in 8 hours it will have dropped to at least 65% (Sense ROM with no apps installed).
PICTURES!
I ATTACHED SOME PICTURES
The first 3 pictures are old, with reasonable battery drain. These are with lots of apps installed.
The last 4 pictures are new, with bad battery drain. These are with NO apps installed.
As you can see, in the old pictures, with Airplane Mode ON, there is VERY little battery drain, both on Sense and AOSP ROMs. And even with Airplane Mode OFF, battery drain is much less on older pictures.
Compare for yourself.
And let me say that this problem is apparent in ALL ROMs, ALL configurations, ALL setups, ALL RUUs, ALL radios, etc... You get the point.
Actually, the majority of the 'testing' that I've done has been with fresh, clean ROM installs. Either AOSP ROMs with only Gapps installed, or Sense ROMs with NO third-party apps installed, and only Google Account signed-in.
Some configurations I've tried:
1.73 RUU, stock, no apps installed
2.20 RUU, stock, no apps installed
3.18 RUU, stock, no apps installed
Custom Sense JB ROMs, stock, no apps installed
ALL AOSP-based ROMs, stock, no apps installed
ETC...
Currently, I have no idea how to solve this problem, and am very sure that it did not exist in the past (started a few months ago). I've done nearly everything I can, even tried changing the outlet I use to charge my phone. And yes, I use the default, included white HTC charger.
My only option I see is to pack the phone up and return it to HTC under warranty and have them replace the battery. There is no water damage BTW (I checked the strip inside the SIM tray). And virtually now physical damage to the device.
This HOX is my 3rd replacement, the original was bought on May 6.
Does the warranty end 1 year after the original device purchase, or the purchase of the final device? ( I got the third one some time in June ).
But just to be safe, I need to ship it back to the before next Monday.
And lastly, I have:
S-OFF, bootloader unlock, SuperCID
In order to return the phone, I have RUU'd to 3.18 (so it looks authentic), and I will probably relock the bootloader, but leave it S-OFF.
I know you can modify the text in the bootloader to make it appear FULLY unmodified, so I might do that also.
SOOOOOO....
Any advice, precautions, etc? Especially for sending it to HTC?
Insurance, how to deal with HTC, how to convince them to replace my battery?
Any advice as to what might be butchering my battery? Seems that since I've tried virtually every software option, the hardware is the problem...
HOWEVER, could S-OFF be the problem? I S-OFF'd the device around the same time that I started having battery troubles, so could that SOMEHOW be the culprit? I don't know...
Is my battery actually looks bad, or is my perception just really screwed up?
Help? Please?

Your battery drain doesn't sound that bad to me. Batteries wear out over time and don't hold the same charge they used to. 1% per hour hardly seems like anything to complain about.
I doubt you're going to get a warranty repair for something like this.

iElvis said:
Your battery drain doesn't sound that bad to me. Batteries wear out over time and don't hold the same charge they used to. 1% per hour hardly seems like anything to complain about.
I doubt you're going to get a warranty repair for something like this.
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I'm getting around 2-3% battery drain per hour, if I just let the phone sit there. And in Airplane Mode, it's just as bad.
Trust me, I've noticed a definite decrease in battery life compared to just a few months ago.
I'll also have some overheating problems with light usage on Sense JB ROMs (including the 3.18 RUU stock), so I think that might be contributing somewhat.
But I've been meaning to make a post about this for weeks, and in the meantime trying to ignore this problem and fix it. But it just isn't happening.
What kind of battery drain do you get with Airplane Mode ON?
Compare the drain in the old (1st picture) vs new (5th picture) when Airplane Mode is ON.

That drain doesn't sound bad to me at all, that sounds completely normal.

Really?
Well, on AOSP 4.2.2 ROMs, with Airplane Mode ON, AutoSync OFF, and no apps installed, and no wakelock, I get around 3% battery drain per hour. Probably due to bad power management in the ROMs themselves.
On Sense ROMs (and this is much worse on JB than ICS) , with Airplane Mode ON, AutoSync OFF, no apps installed, and no wakelock, I get around 1% battery drain per hour.
And all of the screenshots are with no apps installed/no syncing. With apps installed and syncing, the battery life is much worse obviously.
I don't know, I've just REALLY felt like there's been a definite decrease in battery life over the past few months.
I know for sure it used to be a lot better.
I understand that batteries wear out over time, but should it be happening this early to me?
I have an original, launch day HOX, that can handle the lowest underclocking (the processor is in 'FAST' mode), although I have experienced lots of overheating in the past during just very light usage.
Could you guys share the kind of battery drain you get with Airplane Mode ON? Over the course of an hour or few?

I never use airplane mode so I can't shed any light on that. You did say that you've experienced overheating, and overheating causes battery life to decrease both in the short term and the long term. It's the arch nemesis of the battery you might say.
Sent from my One XL using XDA Premium

Hydromea said:
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Could you guys share the kind of battery drain you get with Airplane Mode ON? Over the course of an hour or few?
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Well I did not use airplane mode. However, I turned off WiFi mobile data. Also lowered my brightness to then lowest setting. I have plenty of apps and probably some wake locks. I did this at 11pm and 60%. I have an alarm set for 730am. When I woke up it was at 54%. So you could possibly have a bad battery. My phone is a refurbished one so I don't known when it was manufactured
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I never use airplane mode unless I'm actually on an airplane, but I generally get around 2-4% drain per hour with normal use.

Just out of curiosity have you tried Greenifying Maps, Gmail, Facebook, etc, anything that syncs? Just this has brought my battery from 8hour to 15 hour usage. Has your carrier recently added LTE? LTE is a huge battery drainer.
Secondly, while I'm not discouraging sending your phone in. I doubt they'll do anything. Batteries deteriorate over time. It's a well known fact and companies will rarely replace them unless it's DRASTIC, 2 hour battery life for example or phone no longer turns on.

exad said:
Just out of curiosity have you tried Greenifying Maps, Gmail, Facebook, etc, anything that syncs? Just this has brought my battery from 8hour to 15 hour usage. Has your carrier recently added LTE? LTE is a huge battery drainer.
Secondly, while I'm not discouraging sending your phone in. I doubt they'll do anything. Batteries deteriorate over time. It's a well known fact and companies will rarely replace them unless it's DRASTIC, 2 hour battery life for example or phone no longer turns on.
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Yes, I have tried Greenifying apps, but the battery problem persists even when no syncing apps are installed/autosync is off.
And LTE shouldn't cause problems with battery drain during Airplane Mode. But regardless I have always had good LTE service in my area, so I don't think that's the problem.
If I DO send my phone in, could they just refuse to replace the battery and send it back? Or will they tell me they won't replace it before I send the phone in? What is the process for sending a phone to HTC?

Call them. They're good about explaining what will happen. They'll usually tell you then and there if it's covered. If they won't cover it, they will usually contact you and let you choose if you want them to fix it for a cost or send it back.
Keep us posted as to what happens.
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Ok, so I called HTC today.
The guy on the phone was pretty helpful and nice. I simply explained that I've been experiencing much higher battery drainage than before, how the battery would drain a lot even on airplane mode, overheating problems, etc. Also mentioned that I had tried factory resetting/running without any apps and nothing had helped. I said that I had read that since the battery is not user-replacable, HTC would replace the battery for free. The guy also asked me how long my battery lasted. I gave him some stats like, "With data on and no syncing, around 2-3% per hour" or "With airplane mode on and in standby mode, around 1% per hour" but he kept asking me, "How long does your battery last?" He told me to just tell him a certain number of hours, so I said "10-12 hours with 40 min screen time". That finally stopped him asking. He read me their policy, and asked my information about my address and email, etc. And then it was done.
Also, he used my IMEI to check my warranty status, and apparently the fact that I bootloader unlocked my device raised no concern or mention. :good:
Pretty simple, just keep your cool and keep it simple.
Basically, just tell them the battery life has been really bad, and that you want it repaired. Tell them about how long the battery will last (in hours) and give an approximate screen-on time. Don't worry about fancy stats or figures.
Of course, now I have to actually send the phone back, which is supposed to take around 10 days to repair and return.
Any advice on how to cover up my tracks of S-OFF, unlock, supercid, etc?
I don't want to raise any suspicion, but I also want to be able to re-unlock my device if they ever RUU it. I'm already running the 3.18 RUU by the way.

Hydromea said:
Ok, so I called HTC today.
The guy on the phone was pretty helpful and nice. I simply explained that I've been experiencing much higher battery drainage than before, how the battery would drain a lot even on airplane mode, overheating problems, etc. Also mentioned that I had tried factory resetting/running without any apps and nothing had helped. I said that I had read that since the battery is not user-replacable, HTC would replace the battery for free. The guy also asked me how long my battery lasted. I gave him some stats like, "With data on and no syncing, around 2-3% per hour" or "With airplane mode on and in standby mode, around 1% per hour" but he kept asking me, "How long does your battery last?" He told me to just tell him a certain number of hours, so I said "10-12 hours with 40 min screen time". That finally stopped him asking. He read me their policy, and asked my information about my address and email, etc. And then it was done.
Also, he used my IMEI to check my warranty status, and apparently the fact that I bootloader unlocked my device raised no concern or mention. :good:
Pretty simple, just keep your cool and keep it simple.
Basically, just tell them the battery life has been really bad, and that you want it repaired. Tell them about how long the battery will last (in hours) and give an approximate screen-on time. Don't worry about fancy stats or figures.
Of course, now I have to actually send the phone back, which is supposed to take around 10 days to repair and return.
Any advice on how to cover up my tracks of S-OFF, unlock, supercid, etc?
I don't want to raise any suspicion, but I also want to be able to re-unlock my device if they ever RUU it. I'm already running the 3.18 RUU by the way.
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I would just leave it at the 3.18 RUU with S-OFF if it was me. You could technically flash a modified HBOOT, but if they really cared that much, I'm sure they could tell your bootloader is unlocked regardless since your IMEI is surely captured when you unlock via HTCDEV.