Is anyone else getting massive battery drain? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since I upgraded tp 4.0.4 my battery life has been completely terrible (nexus s GSM, stock, latest glados kernel) even though I don't use it the entire day, it drains over half in about 4 hours. Anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? It was perfectly fine before the update and would last days if I didn't use it, and about 12 hours if I did. Right now it's just unusable.

BetterBatteryStats and/or a fresh install (data/factory reset, format /system, optionally format /boot, install ROM).

HosainH said:
Since I upgraded tp 4.0.4 my battery life has been completely terrible (nexus s GSM, stock, latest glados kernel) even though I don't use it the entire day, it drains over half in about 4 hours. Anyone have any idea what I can do to fix this? It was perfectly fine before the update and would last days if I didn't use it, and about 12 hours if I did. Right now it's just unusable.
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Are you using a custom ROM?
I've had the same problem when I was in stock 4.0.3, which is why I decided to root my phone and resort to custom ROM's and kernels. Now my phone is doing ok in the battery department and is also much more snappier and smoother. Oh and most custom ROM's are already using 4.0.4 anyway.
Let's try and be scientific about your problem, here are some things you may want to try out first to improve battery life:
turn off wifi when not in use
turn off automatic syncing if you don't need it
set your network mode to 2G only if you're not using the internet
turn off mobile data when not browsing/using the internet
install the watchdog lite app/widget from the Google Play store so you can monitor rogue apps that are sucking up juice
do not set your screen brightness to AUTO, but manually adjust it when you need to. you can do this either in the settings menu or thru the power control widget
This are the things I can think of off the top of my head. If this doesn't improve your battery life, even just a bit, you may have no choice but to resort to drastic measures....and go to the dark side.
Hope this helps! Cheers!

mine is okay
Batt I think it quite good on 4.0.4. I can get about 23hrs of usage. Some wifi, some 3g (fb, whatsapp, updating apps, email), some music. Stock ICS.

I had this issue after stock 4.0.4 update from 4.0.3.
I found mediaserver using more battery than it should, so I;
1) Copied all files and folders from /sdcard to PC
2) Re-format /sdcard
3) Re-store all files and folders back to /sdcard
Mediaserver process is now minimal and battery is good again

Ok thanks for the suggestions guys, reformatting my phone would be alot of effort on my part due to how much time I spent setting it up so I would like to use that as a last resort.
I installed battery stats but I can't decipher what it's saying so if someone would be as kind to explain? I took screenshots of everything in an album and I would really appreciate it if someone had a look in the album below.
http://imgur.com/a/RAtmF

Well for one, you have chunks of bad signal(red bars). That right there can kill a battery quickly. The other stuff you may be better off saving the dump file and posting it as an attachment over at the BBS thread. The guys over there are pretty informative and may be able to give you more stuff to look at to help you out.

The red bars are when I was using the underground, the battery drains just as fast overnight. I will look for that thread, thanks.
Edit: I do not stay on the underground overnight, and I have a good signal in my apartment (you can see it's fine when I arrive)

HosainH said:
The red bars are when I was using the underground, the battery drains just as fast overnight. I will look for that thread, thanks.
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yep...a weak network signal will drain your battery a lot faster. if you're not using it to text, call or surf, or if you're just going to play games, might as well go airplane mode for a while, or at least until you get above ground where the signal is stronger.

After a good couple of hours not using the phone in a good signal area create a log and post it. Preferably get the hours just after charging.

Harbb said:
After a good couple of hours not using the phone in a good signal area create a log and post it. Preferably get the hours just after charging.
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ok will do.
Edit: should mention I just remembered I had it on airplane mode overnight once and it still drained.

Ok here is the dump file:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14208458/BetterBatteryStats-2012-05-03_062227218.txt

Ok nevermind just did a reformat new rom etc.

Sorry guys, but after reinstalling I am STILL getting the battery drain issue.. Was a clean install but reinstalled all my old apps and settings. from full to 28% in 5 hours with very little usage.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14208458/BetterBatteryStats-2012-05-05_014902302.txt
Please someone take a look!!!

I'll have a good look tomorrow with some suggestions. Had a fair bit on the last couple days with minimal internet access.

What ROM and Kernel are you using right now?
There are a couple of interesting details there but nothing that i can point out that will take you from 100% -> 30% in that time.
Some things to test:
-Turn phone off (noting charge), remove battery, replace battery, leave phone off overnight and turn it on in the morning, again noting the new charge
-Keep data off and see if battery is still draining / Airplane mode
-Uninstall half of your apps and see if it still happens. If not, add half of the apps you uninstalled. If so, uninstall half of the apps you have left, and so on.
-Do a clean install and try for 2 - 3 days, see if it still happens (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
-Attempt going back to Gingerbread and try for 2 - 3 days (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
These steps can (and should) be done pretty much in order and will rule out ALOT of possible reasons and give possible solutions some merit. Let me know how this goes.

Harbb said:
What ROM and Kernel are you using right now?
There are a couple of interesting details there but nothing that i can point out that will take you from 100% -> 30% in that time.
Some things to test:
-Turn phone off (noting charge), remove battery, replace battery, leave phone off overnight and turn it on in the morning, again noting the new charge
-Keep data off and see if battery is still draining / Airplane mode
-Uninstall half of your apps and see if it still happens. If not, add half of the apps you uninstalled. If so, uninstall half of the apps you have left, and so on.
-Do a clean install and try for 2 - 3 days, see if it still happens (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
-Attempt going back to Gingerbread and try for 2 - 3 days (preferably a stock ROM, preferably from fastboot images)
These steps can (and should) be done pretty much in order and will rule out ALOT of possible reasons and give possible solutions some merit. Let me know how this goes.
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Using latest stable cyanogenmod + tried glados and netarchy and matrix kernels, all the same result. Will try what you said, also I bought a replacement battery to see if the actual battery is faulty (weird because it used to be fine). As for the airplane mode thing I already tried that, to no avail.
edit: should add that was using stock 4.0.4 before cyanogenmod.

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Battery drain issues: last attempt - with screenshos and dumps

Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
SmiLey497 said:
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
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Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.

[Q] Cell Standby / Phone Idle Drain - Embryo 3.2 / UCLE2 / Cymbaline 1.5

Hey Guys,
Let me start by saying that I've spent the better part of 3 days searching XDA, google, reading various other forums for answers to my problem before I decided to post this. Even if the answer was close, or for a different phone I tried all the recommendations to no avail.
I recently just got into the whole rooting and flashing thing. I first tried cyanogenmod9 nightly, and then Embryo 3.2 which I immediately fell in love with. When I flashed, I followed the instructions step by step - wiped all the data, cache, dalvik, formatted then did it all again. Everything is working without a problem. My issue is that cell standby and phone idle is absolutely crushing my battery. I went from getting 17+ hours of normal use with room to spare before charging for the night to barely getting through a day of work.
I installed better batter stats, badass battery monitor, and as a last ditch effort juice defender - hoping that if I let it control the radios and have them off it would curb the problem. Juice defender checks my emails n' all once an hour and it's no help at all. I've burned up almost 20% in 4 hours and i haven't even touched my phone except to see if JD was actually working. Badass battery monitor shows the radio as the biggest drain, and better battery stats... well, frankly, the info it reports is WAY over my head..
My phone is a fresh install of Embryo 3.2, UCLE2 radio, and cymbaline 1.5 kernal. I'm running go launcher, beautiful widgets for time/weather, and go contacts widget. That's it. I read about the phone idle, charged it to 100%, cleared the battery stats in CWM trying to calibrate it and it seems to have done nothing.
Also, I understand the radio works different for everyone. I think my issue is that if UCLE2 is from 2.3.6 OTA, which is what I was using post root/rom, and what i'm currently using now.. why is it a problem now vrs before?
Should I just download all the available radios for the skyrocket, and try a new one every few days to see which works better?
I'm really just seeking a comprehensive answer to my problem which I can't seem to find anywhere. I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't believe I exhausted all my available options. sorry for the wall of text and thanks for taking the time to help!
It's very obvious that many, many people have this problem, but everyone tries to tell you to battery saving tips that just help to cope with the problem but don't fix it at all.
UCLE2 is not from 2.3.6, it's from the second most recent 4.0.4 leak, by the way. I don't really think this is a radio issue, though I did notice I have a problem in UCLF3 and UCLD2 Odin, but not in UCLE2 or Gingerbread. I'm convinced it's something to do with how these ROMs are flashed. I'm going to try CWM to UCLF3 from UCLE2 and see how that goes.
Yea, please let me know what you find. I'll try a new radio when I get home. I'm not going to bother trying to flash a new rom, or this one over again as i've already done it multiple times - the issue has not changes...
cell standby, phone idle..
Get rid of jd first. It makes ics worse. In fact better battery stats is the only "battery assistance" you should keep. Then reflash everything. If you restore with titanium backup, don't restore system data. You'll have to re enter your email accounts and stuff but your contacts should sync once you do. And every time you flash a new ROM it needs a few days to settle. It will burn extra battery in those few days. And I don't know how go contacts widget works, but it may have some interaction with the phone apk that mohan hasn't engineered for, keeping it awake. I'd go without it for awhile too and see if that helps.
Also get CPU spy. To see if your phone's getting any sleep. You could be having some kind of wake lock. Reboot when you pull it off the charger.
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I think it is in part a wake lock problem, however rebooting after taking it off the charger doesn't help.
st0nez0r said:
Yea, please let me know what you find. I'll try a new radio when I get home. I'm not going to bother trying to flash a new rom, or this one over again as i've already done it multiple times - the issue has not changes...
cell standby, phone idle..
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New radio won't change that. Unless you're not using the one mohan provides in the embryo thread. Something is bugging out the phone apk. You may want to try embryo 3.2 without the cymbaline kernel also, and see if that's any better.
Also I should say again, whatever is causing your drain problem, jd is making it worse.
Anything that might be keeping the phone awake. Maybe a Bluetooth or like I mentioned, possibly the go contacts widget.
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Get rid of jd first. It makes ics worse. In fact better battery stats is the only "battery assistance" you should keep. Then reflash everything. If you restore with titanium backup, don't restore system data. You'll have to re enter your email accounts and stuff but your contacts should sync once you do. And every time you flash a new ROM it needs a few days to settle. It will burn extra battery in those few days. And I don't know how go contacts widget works, but it may have some interaction with the phone apk that mohan hasn't engineered for, keeping it awake. I'd go without it for awhile too and see if that helps.
Also get CPU spy. To see if your phone's getting any sleep. You could be having some kind of wake lock. Reboot when you pull it off the charger.
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Alright, thanks.
I've done as you suggested and will report back.
I've installed BBS and CPUSpy. (I don't know how to read bbs, so perhaps point out some things i should keep an eye on would help.. )
I've removed juice defender, go contact widget, and badass battery monitor. I'm pretty much stock except for go launcher ex and beautiful widgets for time/weather.
I'll also remove and reset the battery cache in CWM
When i get home tonight i'll re-wipe/format etc etc and start from scratch again... *pout* lol
boobah204 said:
New radio won't change that. Unless you're not using the one mohan provides in the embryo thread. Something is bugging out the phone apk. You may want to try embryo 3.2 without the cymbaline kernel also, and see if that's any better.
Also I should say again, whatever is causing your drain problem, jd is making it worse.
Anything that might be keeping the phone awake. Maybe a Bluetooth or like I mentioned, possibly the go contacts widget.
Sent from my part of the problem
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Yep, thanks for the info. I won't change the radio, and i'll keep using whats in mohans embryo thread. I'll re-flash and leave off the kernal (which, i like because when i talk on phone it doesn't get hot like it used too).
I removed JD, contacts widget, and everything else except data is off.
What specifically should I be looking for under CPUSpy and BBS
THe phone has currently been on for an hour and 50 minutes
spu spy states deep sleep of 80% for 1:26:28
and bbs under "other" reports 69.4% for both no or unknown signal and no data connection for 1hr and 16 min both
st0nez0r said:
I'll also remove and reset the battery cache in CWM
When i get home tonight i'll re-wipe/format etc etc and start from scratch again... *pout* lol
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No, don't do any of that and don't reset the battery cache in cwm. This might be your problem actually. When you reset battery in cwm you essentially make a new 100% mark. Like, if you do that when you're at fifty percent battery, you just cut your Max battery life in half. So do THIS when you get home. Turn the brightness all he way up. Download angry birds or something and play it until your phone is dead dead DEAD. Then plug your phone to the OEM charger. The one that has a USB plug on the wall end. Let it charge all the way when it's turned off. Then when you turn it back on, hold power and volumes and go straight to recovery. That's the correct time to reset your battery cache in cwm.
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(which, i like because when i talk on phone it doesn't get hot like it used too).
I removed JD, contacts widget, and everything else except data is off.
What specifically should I be looking for under CPUSpy and BBS
THe phone has currently been on for an hour and 50 minutes
spu spy states deep sleep of 80% for 1:26:28
and bbs under "other" reports 69.4% for both no or unknown signal and no data connection for 1hr and 16 min both
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Keep everything the way you have it now and do he charger thing. If you're at&t. If you're rogers change to ruxlf3 radio. Actually trying a different radio may not be a bad idea but give each one a day to see how it does. See if that "no or unknown signal" in bbs changes. You aren't having wake locks. Deep sleep is what you're looking for in cpuspy. I think jd turning on and off the data and searching for a new signal caused a lot of the burn so far. Are you in an LTE area? The other thing to do is make sure your apn (settings > more > mobile networks > access point names) matches what is listed in the embryo thread. Keep your kernel and don't reflash anything except a radio. Try ruxlf3 or u...f5 tomorrow.
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Are you in an LTE area? The other thing to do is make sure your apn (settings > more > mobile networks > access point names) matches what is listed in the embryo thread.
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I'm in AT&T and I work smack dab in the middle of an LTE area with good signal.
I live 60 mi from work, in a non LTE area but still have good signal.
My apn settings were actually set by the phone when i received a call straight after flashing. Att PTA - internet + mms, i'll check mohans thread and see what's up there.
THanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it.
Ok, I've had some luck getting normal-ish battery life (~15 hours). Still seems a little below what it should be and performance is also slightly sluggish compared to stock, but it's clearly miles better than the dead in 7 hours life I was getting.
Now, I don't know if I just got lucky finally or if any of this actually helped, but here's what I did:
* Flashed UCLE2 with Odin.
* Ran battery all the way down
* Charged battery all the way up with phone off. Unplugged it, left it off, and recharged it a few times.
* Wiped battery stats
* Odin flash CWM (NON-TOUCH version this time)
* Darxide Superwipe (x2)
* Flash CM9, Gapps
* Boot
* Darxide Superwipe again
* Flash CM9, gapps again
* Boot, drain battery all the way down
* Charge battery all the way up while phone is off.
Again, not saying this is a fix just saying what I did in as much detail as possible in case it helps anyone.
just go download embryo 4.0 fast and stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754473

Terrible battery drain with any ROM with different batteries

Hello,
I know such tread were posted several time before and i read all of them but i did not find any solutions to my problem. My battery drain is really bad with stock battery, Anker battery, Mugen and others.
Battery darins like 1% per minute or 5 minutes even if Data,Wifi,Sync are off and i the phone not used at all.
So far i have tried the following:
1) Installing different ROMs (I even tried installing the ROMs and not adding any new applications and not modifying any settings to see if it is a problem with an app i have or ROM). So i flash a ROM and leave it as it is, without isntalling anything, but battery drain is still very bad
2) I have tried calibrating (charging 100% and wiping stats) several times
3) I have tried different batteries including Mugen and Anker.
4) I tried those all together several times..
5) I have tried better Battery stats and battery widget to check whats wrong but did not find anything unusual.
6) i have tired to charge my battery longer than ususal (to make sure it is 100%)
battery Usage says 89% of battery is used by Android OS
I suspect this might be a hardware problem but how can i check this? and is it possible to fix? Maybe i should go to recovery and check how long does it take for the battery to go from 100% to say 5% ? but i need some figures to compare with.
so my questions are:
A) Did anyone have similar problems? if yes were you able to fix ?
B) How can i check if there is a hardware problem with my battery connection or something else that might cause battery drain
C) Can anyone let me know how long does it take for the battery to go from 100% to 5% (or 10% or 20%) if the phone is all the time in recovery mode?
D) Can the charger be the problem? I am using stadard Sensation charger..
Any help and advice will be highly appreciated
Thank you
I don't know how long it takes for the battery to go from 100 to 5% in recovery but I've forgotten my phone at home and not plugged in the charger and it has lasted all day.
Do you just test right after the installation of a rom? My battery usually drains fast after I flash a new rom but I'll let it go from full to dead then charge it overnight and the battery will last way longer after that charge.
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do you use Titanium Backup? if so, find the app called "Google Backup Transport" and back it up real quick. then delete it, reboot into recovery and wipe dalvik + cache. then reboot the phone to see if that helps.(wait 2-3 days) back on the MT4G there was an issue where that app caused the Android OS to use a lot of the battery, might work here too in your case.
Hello,
I am still having the problem with my battery drain. I have tried finding Google Backup in Titanium Backup but it was not listed.
However, checking the battery use Android OS takes more that 85%...
I have installed another ROM.
Android OS now disappeared compltely. and it is Cell Standby that is eating all the juice now... But the battery drain is the same. I think the battary Usage indicator does not give any usefull information on what is using the battery..
But the bettery is getting quite warm... and continues to discharge. I just charged to 100% and went asleep. When I woke up next day after 8 hours I onli had 20% of battery remained... WiFi, Data, GPS were switched off.
umka83 said:
I have installed another ROM.
Android OS now disappeared compltely. and it is Cell Standby that is eating all the juice now... But the battery drain is the same. I think the battary Usage indicator does not give any usefull information on what is using the battery..
But the bettery is getting quite warm... and continues to discharge. I just charged to 100% and went asleep. When I woke up next day after 8 hours I onli had 20% of battery remained... WiFi, Data, GPS were switched off.
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what rom do you have installed now? if your problems keeps happening after switching roms, theres probably 1 of 2 problems. Bad battery (Im canceling this out because you said youve used multiple batteries) or a rogue app that is running in the background, killing your battery
also, have you tried formatting your SD card? save all the important stuff and try formatting it, then transfer all the data you saved back to the card
You should try changing your charger. Once I bought a new charger from ebay and I had a lot of probs, the phone took forever to charge, it got hot when charging, the battery would hold less charge.
I suggest you try deleting system,cache,userdata,boot with fastboot commander.Here The instructions to use it:
-download tool
-unpack zip and click on .exe application (is a stand alone app, so you have to click and confirm installation, that's all!)
-open tool
-put DHD in "Fastboot Mode"
-plug it to your pc usb
-Wait for "print of device succesfull"--(if fails, check your sdk driver)
-here you go to "misc"
-select: erase partitions (system,cache,userdata,boot) Don't select recovery
-click on "Erase chosen partition"--
-Done
-manually reboot dhd to recovery
-don't care about error message like E:/can't found recovery log" or something like this.
(It's just recovery wich telling you that partitions are not mounted!)
-So wipe data factory reset to re-mount partitions, otherwise you can't flash anything!
-now flash your rom
this way you are sure that your phone is completely wiped! And when I said completely I mean COMPLETELY!! (except for recovery)
This tool is very useful to solves strange issues that a normal wipe cannot solve! Sometimes happen
Last but not least you could try updating your recovery to the latest version.
Hope you solve your problems:good:
Hello,
1) Yes i tried 3-4 different batteries. Is it possible they all are damaged? By say damaged charger?
2) As for charger, will USB charger work fine (connected to PC) ? Currently I am using the wall charger, but i do not have a sapre one to try.
3) I will try to wipe everything using the tool provided. Thank you.....
I think I already have latest recovery.
P.S currently I am swothching between MIUI roms, but i had ARHD and other roms before that with smae problem...
Do you spend a lot of time in an area with bad cell reception? If so it will spend a lot of battery constantly trying to ping a cell tower.
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umka83 said:
Hello,
1) Yes i tried 3-4 different batteries. Is it possible they all are damaged? By say damaged charger?
2) As for charger, will USB charger work fine (connected to PC) ? Currently I am using the wall charger, but i do not have a sapre one to try.
3) I will try to wipe everything using the tool provided. Thank you.....
I think I already have latest recovery.
P.S currently I am swothching between MIUI roms, but i had ARHD and other roms before that with smae problem...
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If you want you can try using my combination of rom/kernel, you can find them in my signature, I myself had battery problems, but with my Anker and this configuration I get 24 hours of medium usage. Yes the USB charger will do the job and just check if your wall charger has the right output voltage (5v).
Another thing you could do is download this app from Playstore Battery Monitor Widget. It shows the current mA drain/charge.If you see that battery drain is strangely high (example 200mA in standby than your problem isn't the battery/charger. I get a drainage of 3-10mA in standby, which is pretty good. Good luck finding the couprit:good:
Thank you all for your advice!
1) as for ROM i do not think any other ROM/Kernel is going to make a difference. I tried to many of them by now. And I do not think ANY rom is so bad to drain 10-15% per hour while phone is not in use
2) i tried different SD cards and tried pulling out the SD completely, so it should not be the case...
3) I am in good reception area. In fact the phone used to work just fine in the same area when i just bought it... but then something went wrong (cannot find what)
4) If it is an application - than should be something inbuilt in the ROM. because I have tried installin ROM and keeping it clean without installing anything at all. not even changing settings... but the problem was still there...
and 5) I am using Battery Monitor Widget and it is between -35mA and -75mA.
Seems too much but I still cannot find the cause..
IT seems that i also have this issue!!!
using 2 sense 4 roms and my battery usage never ever come down to -40mA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i can not find culprit yet...
really annoying
I have learned a lot about my device since i bought it. The only thing I cannot figure out is the details about the Radio, and which one is the best for me. Can it be that the problems with battery are caused by radio?
What are three best radios to use with JB MIUI Member's choice and othe MIUI Roms?
Thanks
It seems like it was Radio after all.
I have checked my version and it was displayed as N/A instead of 11.68
so i reinstalled the radio and it seems like the problem is solved. at least today i have no problems. I will see if it will be fine tommorow and thereafter..
umka83 said:
It seems like it was Radio after all.
I have checked my version and it was displayed as N/A instead of 11.68
so i reinstalled the radio and it seems like the problem is solved. at least today i have no problems. I will see if it will be fine tommorow and thereafter..
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hmm thats weird? has your data connection gotten any better after changing radios, or is it still the same? good to hear you fixed the battery drain
Hello,
not the connection 3g, data. wi-fi works just as it used to work - just fine. The only thing that changed is that the battery does not die within few hours.
in standby - i have now easily more than 24 hours....
It seems liek the problem is back again. I did not isntall anything new or changed any settings. but suddenly i woke up with 40% of battery on my phone istead of 100%..
it really start to irritate me. There is nothin i mgiht have done to cause this. But the phone is noticabely warmer when it eats the battery for no reason....
Android OS is responsible for 83% of battery drain. While battery life was OK it only had 2-3%...
PS
Today i lost 60% of battery (from 100% to 40%) while sleeping and my phone not used.
umka83 said:
PS
Today i lost 60% of battery (from 100% to 40%) while sleeping and my phone not used.
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Try installing CPU Spy from Play Store and see if the phone is in deep sleep while not being used. Although this tool doesn't give a lot of information, but at least the 1st thing we can see from this tool is whether the CPU is put into deep sleep while the phone is sleeping. Losing 60% while sleeping is very likely that the CPU didn't go into deep sleep state. So this tool should give you some indication. If the CPU ever goes into deep sleep, you'll see the Deep Sleep entry below 192Mhz.

Android System huge battery drain

Does anyone else have the issue where android system is consuming 35+% of the battery? Looking at the stats it seems like one of the bundled services is keeping the radio on for 14/18hrs its been on.
Have the same isssue
Yeah, I'm having this issue too. Android System is consuming HUGE amounts of battery for me.
Thought I was the only one but glad that's not true! Still got good battery stats with the android system drain nonetheless.
Charged mine to full last night right before hitting the sack.
Woke up 7½ hours later and it had consumed 33% of the battery just sitting doing nothing bar getting email & polling (presumably) for Facebook updates.
And that was with Power Saving enabled. Bit disappointing, hoping when I disable auto-sync that it'll kill the drain.
There's lots of services running under Android Systems disable the ones u don't use, I have disabled some got better battery life, still testing some others...
The hardware on the phone is great, but touchwhiz drives me up the wall. I'll be happy if and when we get anything AOSP based, CM being the holy grail. Nice to know I'm not the only one getting this battery drain. I've disabled pretty much everything that's able to be disabled, as all I use is google services.
Same problem here.... Huge Android System battery drains.
I've played around with several things, and as of yet I haven't gotten it to stop other than turning off WiFi. Anyone found a fix?
Mine's more a combo of Android System and Google Services... both take up a majority of my usage... Services typically being a bit more.
Why are there two android systems? wtf...
Is there any way to reduce cell standby?
polaric said:
Does anyone else have the issue where android system is consuming 35+% of the battery? Looking at the stats it seems like one of the bundled services is keeping the radio on for 14/18hrs its been on.
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Same sh*t here. Went to bed last night fully charged, and 7-8 hours later, wake up with 23% of my battery gone.
I'm starting to wonder if moving away from the Nexus line was a mistake. I started running again and the N6 was just too big to lug along with me, on arm or in a waste band, so I decided to try Samsung.
Just got my S6 and I noticed this right away. Last charge I had 2:42 of SOT and "Android Systems" used 47% of the battery. I was just watching Netflix and YouTube mostly. My overnight drain is also quite high, about 1% every 30-40 minutes of standby.
Is that normal for most S6 owners?
To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
Paradoxumical said:
To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
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Is this only for people who already flashed TWRP? I'm stock rooted and seeing this.
km8j said:
Is this only for people who already flashed TWRP? I'm stock rooted and seeing this.
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This is for everyone. If you haven't flash TWRP, then simply wipe the cache with stock recovery.
I just assumed most people would have TWRP flashed, my bad.
I am guessing that that this is an Android problem as the Galaxy S6 Edge has the same problem with battery drains.
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To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
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I'm not rooted and I don't plan on doing so. I'm not sure of any other options. I unplugged it last night an let it sleep. Android system used about 14% of the battery. And I lost 20% charge. Cpu run time was 38 minutes too. and I never even woke it up post unplugging it.
I believe this Battery Drain Issue is a Lollipop issue. Was haing it with my One Plus One, I fixed it by going into privacy Guard, and going to Google Play Services and not allowing it to stay awake, and start by itself.
Ill find the actual thread and post it, same issues happening with a lot of phones using lollipop
Battery drain on a new device = bad flash (very common on android devices, first run)
1 wipe the devices and start it again from factory problem should go away. (at least the excessive drain anyway)
2 Ensure you have updated the Samsung Services app (this was responsible for most if not all battery drain issues if you reset your device)
3. Turn the bloody Screen brightness down and turn off Adaptive display (way way way too much battery drain using them)
4. LTE off and Cell data off if you on wifi, your wasting battery power communicating with cell sites you arnt using, the weaker the signal the more power you will drain for no benefit
6. GPS / Loc data off unless you need it even then wifi / AGPS is usually more than accurate, remember GPS + poor sky visibility = more power used to get a loc.
5 NEVER measure battery life for the first 24 hours way too much stuff syncing and updating to measure with any accuracy.
I get a solid 2 days out of the S6 with mixed use and a screen on time of 2:30 could get that upto 3 hours but i have a hearthstone addiction
As mentioned above, I highly recommend wiping the cache, even when not rooted.
Also, worst comes to worse, i'd completely redo the phone from scratch via the Smart Switch software samsung provide.

Question 7 pro battery drain

In last few days I noticed battery drain. And as well I think it started same time I noticed screen flickering when in battery settings. Video explaining attached. As you can see its fine until I get deeper into settings then "system operacyjny Android" starts flashing slightly and screen flickers and it's laggy. It stops and then starts again Anyone else has similar problem?
XDA allows 200+MB attachments?
It'd be easier to describe (in English?) the settings path you took.
I was surprised too sorry it's in battery settings and that's what's flashing "android os"
mateusz3112 said:
In last few days I noticed battery drain. And as well I think it started same time I noticed screen flickering when in battery settings. Video explaining attached. As you can see its fine until I get deeper into settings then "system operacyjny Android" starts flashing slightly and screen flickers and it's laggy. It stops and then starts again Anyone else has similar problem?
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Hi mate, I do have the same problem with the battery settings view. But no solution so far.
Looks like a small glitch then. What app can you suggest to have a proper look into battery usage? Like idle etc with details. Something is draining my battery. I have accu battery now but I don't see any details there
mateusz3112 said:
Looks like a small glitch then. What app can you suggest to have a proper look into battery usage? Like idle etc with details. Something is draining my battery. I have accu battery now but I don't see any details there
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I've rooted all android phone since I bought my pixel 7 pro a few days ago. Don't want to root again because of magisk hide etc. But there a a few things, like the battery section or the missing nfc quick tile, that makes me to want to flash a custom Rom. But so far I stay strong and keep the stock Rom.
I don't have that glitch... Rooted here.
I don't have that glitch, either
Perhaps a full device wipe is needed.
If I continually update and re-root my phone each month without the "wipe' parameter, I eventually run into some not-super-noticeable OS issues. But, of course, once that occurs I just make a Google Drive backup and re-image my phone with the same factory image. However, I just leave the wipe parameter in the flash-all batch file when I do this and any OS or root problems seem to be resolved after doing so.
NippleSauce said:
Perhaps a full device wipe is needed.
If I continually update and re-root my phone each month without the "wipe' parameter, I eventually run into some not-super-noticeable OS issues. But, of course, once that occurs I just make a Google Drive backup and re-image my phone with the same factory image. However, I just leave the wipe parameter in the flash-all batch file when I do this and any OS or root problems seem to be resolved after doing so.
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You don't need to re-root with every release. Just use Pixel Flasher.
krakout said:
You don't need to re-root with every release. Just use Pixel Flasher.
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If I remember correctly, Pixel Flasher is re-rooting after full system images are flashed. Or perhaps it updates over the OTA method? Regardless, I have never used it as I have never needed to, haha =P. Re-rooting only takes me a a few seconds =)
krakout said:
Nope, it patches and flashes the image automatically itself.
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So, it is re-rooting after the updated system image is flashed, haha =D.
Just for clarification, rooting a Pixel is done in the act of patching the stock init_boot.img and then flashing it. When the system is updated, the entire factory image is flashed, and thus, the previously patched init_boot.img is replaced with a stock, unpatched init_boot.img. At this point in time, the phone is no longer rooted. But that is why users like us re-root our phones afterwards =). The Pixel Flasher is just incorporating that re-rooting process into its convenient, ease-of-use application experience - which is a very good thing to provide an option for.
Every day is a new day to learn something different =).
NippleSauce said:
If I remember correctly, Pixel Flasher is re-rooting after full system images are flashed. Or perhaps it updates over the OTA method? Regardless, I have never used it as I have never needed to, haha =). Re-rooting only takes a a few seconds.
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Nope, it patches and flashes the image automatically itself.
battery drain on a smartphone can be caused by various factors, including:
Screen brightness: A bright screen can drain the battery quickly. Try reducing the brightness of your screen to conserve battery life.
Background apps: Apps running in the background can consume a lot of power. Make sure to close all unnecessary apps when you're not using them.
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS: If these features are left on when not needed, they can drain your battery. Try turning them off when you're not using them.
The thing is that that drain started on Friday I think. Didn't install any new apps etc. I have around 30% phone iddle - is that normal?
What do you mean 30% idle?
Like that
Ehhh when idle apps are still running in the background checking for stuff etc... It'd be better if you used some other battery analyzer like GSAM for more details.
Ok so looks it's back to previous battery performance after yesterday's update. Definitely flickering problem is fixed and that's my today's battery result. And the phone idle seems gone down from 25-30 to 15%
I have the same issue since the last update from I think Monday evening.
Since then my battery drains a lot faster then before. I have a loss of 30% during a night without doing anything within these 7 hours. Before the update it had around 6-8% less in the morning. And it drains a lot fast during the day too. I have 100% after charge in the morning, go to work and when I come back it is down to ~30%. Last week it was on ~60% or more when I came home.
No new apps, nothing changed except the update.
This is really annoying me!
Don't want to wipe the hole phone as I don't use any Cloud on my ohones and would have to backup via MyPhoneExplorer and set up all by hand again.
Or is there any backup solution to backup everything on a phone all at once without root?
Oh and my Idle has around 30% battery usage, before the update it was on maybe 10% during a day.
ericDraven77 said:
I have the same issue since the last update from I think Monday evening.
Since then my battery drains a lot faster then before. I have a loss of 30% during a night without doing anything within these 7 hours. Before the update it had around 6-8% less in the morning. And it drains a lot fast during the day too. I have 100% after charge in the morning, go to work and when I come back it is down to ~30%. Last week it was on ~60% or more when I came home.
No new apps, nothing changed except the update.
This is really annoying me!
Don't want to wipe the hole phone as I don't use any Cloud on my ohones and would have to backup via MyPhoneExplorer and set up all by hand again.
Or is there any backup solution to backup everything on a phone all at once without root?
Oh and my Idle has around 30% battery usage, before the update it was on maybe 10% during a day.
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I've been through this. For no reason, it's an insane battery drain. I ended up wiping and reflashing the newest firmware, staying on Stock Kernel and restoring my Swift backup - user apps/data only - and only logged into the apps I actually use and it got better. Not perfect, but better. After I week I reflashed the Kira Kernel and it's been back to pretty stellar again, like you said, only dropping a few percentage points at night

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