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So, I was well informed from many different sources that the biggest drawback to the Thunderbolt was the horrendous battery life (people complaining in the 4 hour range). I came from a Samsung Fascinate, which would most of the time get me through the day, but just barely, and the Battery Use was almost always 70-80% screen (even at the lowest brightness). I primarily got the Thunderbolt for the possibility of 4G tethering, so the first thing I did was buy an external battery charger pack (extended battery was sold out).
Well, I've had it for a few days now and despite geeking out on the phone, tethering whenever I can, using it probably more than my Fascinate, I haven't had any issues with battery. I pulled it off charge about 8am this morning, it's currently 9:45pm, I've been using it pretty heavily all day, tethering on the train to work, using it at work, and using it the whole train ride home, and it's currently at 33% battery. 6:18:00 Awake time. Where is this horrendous battery life I heard about?
I'm not using any battery saving utilities (Juice defender etc), have it set to Auto Brightness, just letting it be on WiFi when WiFi is available. I'm using the bone stock HTC Android 2.2 that came with it, not root etc.
So far this phone has much better battery life than my Fascinate and I'm pretty impressed, especially since I believe it has a slightly smaller battery. If I check battery use today, it's 59% Display, with the next highest being 9% Cell Standby.
I haven't used it as a 4G hotspot for more than maybe 30 minutes at a time, but even then it doesn't seem to die too quickly. Am I just missing something that other people are doing that drains their batteries like crazy or is it just that I'm careful about not using stuff the indiscriminately uses 4G for no reason? (I removed all the auto updating widgets like the Friend Feed etc).
Anyone else had a similar experience?
Ummm, yah, well, it's just you...
JK... the battery is ok for me I haven't had it die on me yet but when ever I drive it goes in the charger so I'm sure that adds up.
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So, I was well informed from many different sources that the biggest drawback to the Thunderbolt was the horrendous battery life (people complaining in the 4 hour range). I came from a Samsung Fascinate, which would most of the time get me through the day, but just barely, and the Battery Use was almost always 70-80% screen (even at the lowest brightness). I primarily got the Thunderbolt for the possibility of 4G tethering, so the first thing I did was buy an external battery charger pack (extended battery was sold out).
Well, I've had it for a few days now and despite geeking out on the phone, tethering whenever I can, using it probably more than my Fascinate, I haven't had any issues with battery. I pulled it off charge about 8am this morning, it's currently 9:45pm, I've been using it pretty heavily all day, tethering on the train to work, using it at work, and using it the whole train ride home, and it's currently at 33% battery. 6:18:00 Awake time. Where is this horrendous battery life I heard about?
I'm not using any battery saving utilities (Juice defender etc), have it set to Auto Brightness, just letting it be on WiFi when WiFi is available. I'm using the bone stock HTC Android 2.2 that came with it, not root etc.
So far this phone has much better battery life than my Fascinate and I'm pretty impressed, especially since I believe it has a slightly smaller battery. If I check battery use today, it's 59% Display, with the next highest being 9% Cell Standby.
I haven't used it as a 4G hotspot for more than maybe 30 minutes at a time, but even then it doesn't seem to die too quickly. Am I just missing something that other people are doing that drains their batteries like crazy or is it just that I'm careful about not using stuff the indiscriminately uses 4G for no reason? (I removed all the auto updating widgets like the Friend Feed etc).
Anyone else had a similar experience?
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It's you.
Seriously though. Go to any one of the Thunderbolt forums or read any Thunderbolt review and you'll see the battery being discussed prominently. There is definitely an issue with it. Who knows what it is though..
The thing that really bothers me is the battery isnt consistently bad. Like the last two days Ive gotten 24 hours of use out of my phone. Normally that's unheard of.. but next week something will happen and it will be back to being dead within 6-8 hours with barely any use.
You are correct that this issue is oft-cited in regards to the TB. However, I think the 4 hour data points may be slightly exaggerated. I wound up buying the oem extended battery because I wasn't make it past 6.5 hours with regular use. I travel pretty far to get to work every day, switching between many towers over the course of my commute, constantly going from 4g to 3g to 1x and back. Besides the screen (which will be the biggest battery drain on any phone with a modern touchscreen) data should be your next highest drain, and the biggest variable you are capable of tweaking to change your battery performance. My 6.5 hour experience was with a pretty abusive data usage scenario, and I don't see many people inflicting much more upon the battery in actual, real-world use. That said, with the extended battery, the TB has the best battery life of any phone I have owned in the last five years, and I couldn't be happier.
I'm getting about 12 hours with pretty heavy use. Running BAMF 1.6.2 with kernel overclocked. I'm pretty happy with battery life...it's just as good as it was on my droid incredible.
I have learned thru experience that all HTC phones with 4.3 inches screens are bad at battery life. When I say bad, that's comparing it to a smaller less powerful device. But take in account all it does and to me battery is ok. I mean the HD2, and EVO when I owned them were battery hogs. But I always had a charge. Ppl want bigger and faster phones,Well there's a trade off until battery technology catches up, the bigger phones will consume more battery. Its like saying I want a better car more sporty and trendy but I don't want to pay that much. Not goin to happen.
With just 3G available to me and using everything stock...I get slightly better battery life than I did with my incredible that was on CM7. Compared to a stock incredible, much better. I'm a bit scared for when I do get 4G seeing all the posts though =)
Rooting gave me an extra 2% per hour usage. I can go 15 hours and still have 40% left on my battery. I'm happy with this battery.
Thunderbolt has better battery life than my Samsung Epic had. Stock, my battery wasnt all that great. However, changing some settings and finding a suitable kernel has helped with my battery life.
I have had the same experience. Coming from a Fascinate, the Thunderbolt is so much better on battery life. Mind you, I do not live in an LTE area. This is what I do:
- Juice Defender (Balanced settings)
- Brightness - half way
- GPS only on when I need it
- Wifi on almost 100% of the time (at home and work I use only wifi)
- Non-Rooted
I even have 100+ apps installed including leaving Google Talk and Yahoo Messenger on almost 24/7. I have about 8 or 9 widgets as well. Most that pull info.
The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
I've had the TB for 3 days now and am coming from a rooted Eris (running xtr rom). I have noticed that with the same amount of usage I am also getting better battery life on the stock TB than I did on my Eris. I am in an area that does not have 4G so I have that turned off.
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The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
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where did you get this info about the power of the towers? btw what power do they normally work at? 100W?
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The terrible battery life comes when the phone tries to hold a bad 4g signal drains the battery at an insane amount. If you're in strong signal expect much better battery life but because 4g is so new I expect a lot of people to be in areas with low 4g signal as Verizon has not even turned up 85-90% of the towers past 45% power.
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I'd love to see some sources backing this info up.
When I bought my TB I left the store with the extended battery in. The battery easily lasts me all day. After reading all the complaints about how bad the stock battery is I decided to try using it and I'm actually surprised by how long it lasts. I was expecting much worse. It's easily lasted me 8-12 hours with my normal everyday use. I'm going to stick to the stock battery from now on. I was getting annoyed by the heft and bulkiness of the extended battery. My phone feels so sleek with the stock one.
Yeah, I'm with the "it's just you" crowd.
Pretty bad battery life for me here in NYC (plenty of good 4G around).
Not a heavy data user (less than 20min browsing per day).
Not a lot of long calls.
Accounts update once every hour (FB, 2 email accounts).
Brightness at min.
No video playing, no music playing.
No speakerphone used.
Rooted, BAMF 1.3.2
GPS and WiFi rarely on at all.
I'm lucky, --LUCKY--, if I get like 6 hours out of a fully charged battery.
daniel178 said:
Yeah, I'm with the "it's just you" crowd.
Pretty bad battery life for me here in NYC (plenty of good 4G around).
Not a heavy data user (less than 20min browsing per day).
Not a lot of long calls.
Accounts update once every hour (FB, 2 email accounts).
Brightness at min.
No video playing, no music playing.
No speakerphone used.
Rooted, BAMF 1.3.2
GPS and WiFi rarely on at all.
I'm lucky, --LUCKY--, if I get like 6 hours out of a fully charged battery.
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Just curious, why are you still using BAMF 1.3.2?
running Bamf 1.6.1 and Imoseyon Lean Kernal set at 1.4Ghz with SetCPU on Smartass, along with ATK set to kill every 30 mins(oh I know they are the devil, yet my battery life is always better with one, so no comments about how they are bad.) I also always have 4G on, and usually fluctuate between -82 to -94dB in signal strength, and wifi is never on, as my home network is strained enough as it is. GPS is always off unless I need it.
I also use WPClock Live Wallpaper at the same time.
Yesterday I was at 18% with 2 days since last plugged in.
Of course I also calibrated my battery, after flashing Bamf 1.6.1.
I use my phone alot for facebook, angry birds, browsing the web and a crap ton of texting, I probably hit near 1000 text a month, I know that isn't what the high school brats are pulling, but still, for me, that is insane.
On my Evo 4G, with 4G off, I could hit 3 days running CM7 underclocked to 750Mhz max. That was with a bigger battery as well.
I am very exited for CM7 to go into a beta, or nightly stage, and the kinks worked out, as I am sure with 4G on I can hit near 3 days with the Thunderbolt as well.
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running Bamf 1.6.1 and Imoysen Lean Kernal set at 1.4Ghz with SetCPU on Smartass, along with ATK set to kill every 30 mins(oh I know they are the devil, yet my battery life is always better with one, so no comments about how they are bad.) I also always have 4G on, and usually fluctuate between -82 to -94dB in signal strength, and wifi is never on, as my home network is strained enough as it is.
Yesterday I was at 18% with 2 days since last plugged in.
Of course I also calibrated my battery, after flashing Bamf 1.6.1.
I use my phone alot for facebook, angry birds, browsing the web and a crap ton of texting, I probably hit near 1000 text a month, I know that isn't what the high school brats are pulling, but still, for me, that is insane.
On my Evo 4G, with 4G off, I could hit 3 days running CM7 underclocked to 750Mhz max. That was with a bigger battery as well.
I am very exited for CM7 to go into a beta, or nightly stage, and the kinks worked out, as I am sure with 4G on I can hit near 3 days with the Thunderbolt as well.
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Update your sig, brah. Still says your running Tesla Coil.
Overall battery life is a lot better than my cm7 Incredible, and on mostly standby it lasted quite awhile before I had to charge it (I couldn't use it for a few days because vzw wonked up on activating my TB somehow), so it lasted almost 3 days with only occasional data use/seeing if the phone was working (I couldn't send texts or make/receive calls, but my data was working)
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Update your sig, brah. Still says your running Tesla Coil.
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I know, I am a lazy ass, haha.
Think again! I own TB since March and the battery is the worst thing i eva seen. Pls spare me all the tips abt charging the phone, i have tried themall. If i turn on lte, the phone will not last me more than 5 hours and it was not even heavy use. Please keep this in mind if u want to switch.
My gf has a charge I have a thunderbolt. Running a good Rom and kernel pretty much takes care if battery issues for me. I get about 2 hours more than hers with about the same usage. If you compare both using stock roms than yes the charge will last longer though.
Sent from my TB running sense 3.0 GB BAMF
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My gf has a charge I have a thunderbolt. Running a good Rom and kernel pretty much takes care if battery issues for me. I get about 2 hours more than hers with about the same usage. If you compare both using stock roms than yes the charge will last longer though.
Sent from my TB running sense 3.0 GB BAMF
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Is she rooted and running a custom ROM as well, or are you comparing custom ROM to stock?
I'm giving up with running custom ROMs. Been there, done that. I just need a phone that works. Wait...there isn't one but really I just need a decent phone. I feel like I'm going down that road again using Android...ya know that Linux tinkering when Slackware was installing from floppies and the ego "I could do whatever I want" with it. Maybe I need to switch to the dark side for a break
If I switch to 3G on TB, I will have about 30% left by the end of the day. If I give the phone to my son so he could play a litto game or watch litto utube, I better have somewhere to charge the phone right away. It also depends on where you're at as far as LTE coverage goes. I think I have decent coverage (12mb/s dl; 2-3mb/s upload)
I'm confident that Samsung will release new firmware to address some of the issues. Don't think switching to a different phone, you won't have issue(s). For TB, I will seriously think twice as the known battery issue.
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Is she rooted and running a custom ROM as well, or are you comparing custom ROM to stock?
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I'm comparing my modded phone to her stock. I know its an unfair fight but just sayin.
Sent from my TB running sense 3.0 GB BAMF
OP sounds like he needs to buy an iphone or a crackberry. Great battery life, no tinkering required.
I currently have active TB, Charge, Nexus S, iPhone 4.
Battery life - iP4 the best, then NS, then a total tossup on the TB/Charge.
Form Factor - NS the best, TB, Charge, iP4.
Screen/Display - Charge best, iP4, NS, TB horrible.
Call quality/coverage - VZW is great at both, AT&T is decent coverage, but call quality not top notch, T-Mobile terrible coverage, decent call quality.
The TB has a wonderful advantage, for my usage habits, over all the other VZW offerings in that it has the simultaneous voice/data over 3G. No other phone on VZW can do that yet.
A friend saw I had both phones on my desk yesterday; she asked about both since she wants a new one. She assumed the Charge was my favorite for some reason, but when she flat out asked I told her all things considered, the TB had a slight edge over the Charge.
I'd recommend either phone, but I'd also say they both must be rooted and tweaked to be of much use. The TB battery is much better on BAMF, but it still sucks, than stock, and the Charge is a laggy piece of cow dung if you leave it stock RFS file system.
I had the thunderbolt since launch day - and the one really, and only "killer" is svdo over 3g. Battery life killed me, as did the shoddy build quality (3 cln replacements in 3 weeks). The screen also was far far far too washed out in direct sunlight (didnt really noticed until summer, dang those grey New England days!). I ended up having VzW executive customer service swap my Bot for a new Charge - whilst my Thunderbolt would burn 15% mostly standby to 20% using the device on LTE or about 8-10% over 3g. I'm still a slave to wifi at home with the Charge, but at least the screen is usable outdoors and I can make it approximately 10 hours on 4g/18 forced to 3g/24+ on wifi. The LTE radio in all of these phones are the killers.
With that said, LTE speed overall really isnt needed, at least until video chat (or 2.3.4) is available and stable. I do really miss svdo over 3g from the bolt, thankfully Boston metro is blanketed in 4g, but I'm finding the Charge quite possibly the best overall 4G device on VzW especially after the debloat and voodoo mods.
OOB though with no modifications? Thunderbolt. If you can deal with the absolutely terrible battery life (on 4g) and are never out in the sun and need to see your display.
But the Charge's screen is superb, the phone is more comfortable to hold for an extended period of time, and battery life is head and shoulders better. I'm just scared that 2.3.4 will not make it on time, due to Samsung's terrible track record with updates and Skype with video will stall for Android on a whole.
Edit - I also absolutely hate TouchWiz. LauncherPro saved the day in that regard as well.
I had 1% battery drain overnight while the phone idled for 6 hours. I turned mobile data off at the time. 1%.
Right now the battery is at 75% and has been off of the charger for 12 hours and 17 minutes. The phone has been on constant 4G from ~6:45am until now, 12:41pm.
I love my battery life
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With that said, LTE speed overall really isnt needed
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Neither are front facing cameras, 8MP cameras, Super AMOLED+ displays, etc.
They're just nice to have.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
Neither are front facing cameras, 8MP cameras, Super AMOLED+ displays, etc.
They're just nice to have.
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Who said they weren't?
I just switched from a stock rooted TB to a Charge. My thoughts:
-Like everyone else, TB battery life was dismal in 4G areas. Even with the extended battery it was very poor.
-Screen on TB is *very* hard to see outside.
-TB pretty freaking heavy.
-HTC's Sense UI is a lot prettier than Samsung's UI.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I had 1% battery drain overnight while the phone idled for 6 hours. I turned mobile data off at the time. 1%.
Right now the battery is at 75% and has been off of the charger for 12 hours and 17 minutes. The phone has been on constant 4G from ~6:45am until now, 12:41pm.
I love my battery life
Neither are front facing cameras, 8MP cameras, Super AMOLED+ displays, etc.
They're just nice to have.
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How are you getting this kind of battery life. I'm running Gummycharged 1.7.5 with the PBJ OTC kernal (not overclocked though), and I lose 20% over eight hours while I'm sleeping.
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How are you getting this kind of battery life. I'm running Gummycharged 1.7.5 with the PBJ OTC kernal (not overclocked though), and I lose 20% over eight hours while I'm sleeping.
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I'm guessing he puts his phone in airplane mode.
dcc123 said:
How are you getting this kind of battery life. I'm running Gummycharged 1.7.5 with the PBJ OTC kernal (not overclocked though), and I lose 20% over eight hours while I'm sleeping.
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As I said in the kernel thread, if you are going to stick with stock clock speeds, you will get better battery life on the non-OC version of my kernel.
I'm normally in a decent to strong 4G area, and I really don't see a huge difference in battery life between the TB and DC, but this week I've been working in a location that's 3G only, and in a building where the coverage is weak for data.
In this circumstance, the battery life between my Droid and my Thunderbolt is very dramatic. Whether it's just physically a better radio, or a better software for it, the Charge's battery life is amazing compared to the Thunderbolt's. This morning, after not even three hours, my Charge still had 90% battery life, my Thunderbolt was down to 48%. Neither phone had been used for anything; they were both just idle on my desk. Amazing.
The Charge clearly handles weak signals better than the TB in this area (Santa Clarita, CA - near Magic Mountain just north of Los Angeles).
I purchased the Droid Charge based on the Engadget review of the device. In particular, I wanted a device that could get on the LTE network AND have great battery life. This excerpt sold me:
When it comes to battery life, there's no competition. The Charge blitzed through a full day of what we'd consider typical use, coming off the charger at about 9am and not getting slotted back in again until 9pm the next night. Yes, you read that right, two working days of what we'd consider average use with GPS and WiFi on, taking pictures and videos, all powered by a single 1,600mAh battery. Granted, we weren't running our performance benchmarks at the time, but we were hammering the LTE antenna to get some speed results.
I expected to get, at a minimum, a full day's charge using LTE on this device, considering I live in an area where LTE isn't hard to come by (Los Angeles). Alas, I was sorely disappointed when my battery drained within 5 hours with minimal use. 5 hours!!! How can Engadget claim it will last for two days and that "there's no competition." It's totally misleading. The Droid Charge has a serious battery issue which nobody can seem to get to the bottom of. I even tried installing the latest Gingerbread rom to ameliorate the issue, but to no avail. Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
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Has anyone gotten a full day's use out of the device when on the LTE network?
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I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
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I just got back from a full day's use on 4G with GPS on, WiFi on and Exchange and Gmail pushing mail as needed. I did not, however, text at all. One of my pages has an IP camera app that updates three feeds (snapshots) at least every five minutes. I am in a pretty consistent 4G area except when I'm at home (Philladelphia suburbs by my home is in a geographically challenged location)!
The phone just turned off as it dropped below 2% so I can't give any battery stats; I've been following the battery recalibration procedure listed here.
Keep the faith...you may not reach two days but you should be able to get a lot more than 5 hours!
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Out of curiosity, which ROM are you using to get this kind of battery life? I just installed the latest Gingerbread leak and my phone is leaking battery at a rate of 15-20% per hour. I saw that re-calibration post, but I'm wondering if I can simply charge my phone to 100% and place the same ROM on top of the one I already installed. Just want to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Any thoughts?
If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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If you wondering if you can just replace your current COM with the same one you are using by just replacing the files on the SD card then yes you can. If you're asking about re-flashing the same ROM over it again without wiping during the calibration then you can. It shouldn't harm anything.
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I've already installed the latest Gingerbread ROM and updated all my apps and widgets on the device. Can I now charge the device to 100%, bump charge a couple of times (per the instructions in another post on the board), and then restart and wipe the battery stats in recovery mode? Or, do I have to charge to 100% and then completely reinstall the same exact ROM on top of the one I just installed?
Stockmoose.
5 hours? That's questionable that you only got 5 hours with minimal use. No Engadget did not lie, and until the 1700 mah phones are released the end of the month, there is no comparison.
Only with Altered Beast and heavy use was I able to kill the battery in under 8 hours. So I would chalk it up to a bad battery. Not everything is perfect.
Gingerbread is a leak, so trying to compare it to the stock rom does you no good.
You can wipe the battery cache without having to re-flash everything again.
Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
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Agreed, I was heavily influenced by the Engadget review and was seriously disappointed when I struggle to get a day's worth of usage out of the stock ROM on 4G.
The Gingerbread leaks have some serious battery issues. I reccomend flashing Humble v1.3 (Froyo) and undervolting. Best battery life by far. I can hammer the LTE radio for a few hours straight.
As a side note, all of Verizon's current 4G Android offerings have awful battery life due to having the dual CDMA and LTE radios. That being said, the Charge evidently has the best life out of the three of them. Future phones (when Verizon dumps CDMA altogether in favor of LTE) will have way better life.
Sent from my Droid Charge
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
Pro tip: Never buy anything based solely on one review.
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Curious while running Humble v1.3 and undervolting which kernel are you running atm. And second what undervoltage settings are your using atm currently so yo uare getting random reboots. Reaosn I ask is I just flashed v1.3 this am and updated to Imnut's newest OC kernel but have left it alone right now without touching any voltage settings. So any input would be great and I'd like to set mine nad check it out to see if I can get even better battery life out of it. Thanks
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This should help.
I get about 12 hours with minimal to moderate usage throughout the day 4G, wifi/gps off for the majority. I might have to try this bump charging, though. Would be incredible to get a solid day out of this thing.
9 hours of using my phone to check XDA post, playing bubble buster, and texting and my phone is at 77%. Only thing different on my phone is i'm using SetCPU to undervolt. But even with that. if you are only getting 6 hours with minor use. There is something wrong.
I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
I did the battery charging cycles as mentioned above and erased the battery stats last night. Now I'm down to 20% after 6 hours of light use. That's pretty much the same way as before. What did I do wrong?
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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Not a chance I'll say bull**** that is for sure. When leaving the device on Wifi battery life will DRASTICALLY increase. The radio in the device is what is eating it up. If you want to conserve even more battery I've found and don't ask me why if you actually turn off Mobile data and then turn Wifi on it will help even more.
Ran a test last night and with over 7hrs on Wifi it dropped on 5%
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I just did a solid 36 hours by staying on my home Wifi almost the whole time. I'm using Gummy Charged 1.8. Before everyone starts calling bull----, I probably used the phone a total of 1 hour over that period of time.
Normally, it lasts 14-18 hours with only Exchange mail and an hour of gaming (no facebook, social networks, etc.)
If I recall correctly, battery life was an issue with the gingerbread leaks.
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I've gotten 24 hours with about 20% to spare going in and out of Wifi and 4G. I had 3 gmail accounts sync'd to the phone and I probably streamed about 20 minutes worth of music using Google Music. But, I probably used the phone for a combined total of 1.5 hours over that period, and it was a slow day, so I actually didn't get many emails.
I think I was using one of the Froyo Gummy ROMs.
I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
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I don't think it's very fair to use custom ROMs and then complain about battery life. Was your battery life lower than 5 hours on the stock ROM? Did you even use the stock ROM?
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Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
doodlebro said:
Try reading more than skimming the OP. He implied that he started stock there, and about 3 posts down said that it was ridiculous that even the stock ROM couldn't get 5 hours.
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My apologies, I misread his second to last sentence in the OP.
Either way, 5 hours is not normal and I wouldn't blame the Charge just yet. Not sure if you guys have official 2.3 yet (I'm a Thunderbolt owner myself), but I know the Froyo ROMs on the TB have a very noticeable increase in battery life compared to the Gingerbread leak builds.
I get about 6-8 hours of heavy use on my 2.3 ROM on the TB. Probably closer to 13+ with Froyo.
ok so here's the deal.. my phone has been off the charger for about 4 hours and im already down to 40% left. I live in a 4g area but it is spotty in many areas, including my workplace. I have gps (for weather updates and nav, when i need it) and wifi on at all times. i am running the EP4P modems on GummyCharged Froyo ROM 2.0. I have the screen brightness turned all the way down. No overclocking.
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #30
I have tried several different methods to calibrate the battery but it doesnt seem to help. When i'm at home and using wifi the battery life is pretty good. so is it my modem? the ROM? my kernel? Can anyone help me get the most out of my phone? I've tried various modems but have stuck with GC since I loaded it back in sept.
If you are in a spotty area, that can happen. Searching for signal and 4G/3G switching can drain the battery very fast. I would try putting the phone in cdma mode while you are at work or any other spotty area.
Turn off wifi and gps if you are not currently using them, wifi scans for networks regularly and you may have apps/widgets that are using the gps/ network location services while you are idle
also, my battery stats say that display is using up 45% (as of now) of my battery life with 23 mins of usage time. I have the wifi turned on for my convenience, but it doesn't scan for networks as i've turned that function off. I will try the cdma switch, but I have also tried that before and I don't think it makes too much of a difference.
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also, my battery stats say that display is using up 45% (as of now) of my battery life with 23 mins of usage time. I have the wifi turned on for my convenience, but it doesn't scan for networks as i've turned that function off. I will try the cdma switch, but I have also tried that before and I don't think it makes too much of a difference.
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The battery usage metrics aren't useful until you've been up for several hours. And having the screen using a high percentage is ideal -- it means that the rest of the system is throttling like it is supposed to.
How long have you been on GummyCharged? A few weeks into having that on my phone happily, battery life took a nose dive similar to what you are experiencing. I flashed back to stock and battery life is much better. Waiting for official GB before trying another ROM.
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The battery usage metrics aren't useful until you've been up for several hours. And having the screen using a high percentage is ideal -- it means that the rest of the system is throttling like it is supposed to.
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i see your point but im now at 5 hours uptime with 23% battery left.. light/medium usage. display still says 46% battery use with 25 mins of usage time. that seems like incredibly too much battery drainage.
also, when i put the phone into cdma mode do i select the home or automatic option, and what is the difference?
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How long have you been on GummyCharged? A few weeks into having that on my phone happily, battery life took a nose dive similar to what you are experiencing. I flashed back to stock and battery life is much better. Waiting for official GB before trying another ROM.
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i flashed GC onto my phone in mid september. since then i've tried calibrating the battery several times. a totally futile exercise it seems. What setup are you running now? 2.2.1 with EE4 modem? Rooted?
The only thing that has solved my battery problems is juice defender. Sitting idle for eight plus hours at night I only drop about 3-5%. Of choose it still drains just as quickly while using the phone but it will help if you're in a spotty area because data is turned off if your screen is off.
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I've never had good luck using a modem from one rom with a DIFFERENT rom/kernel. Always docreased my performance.
I find it odd that Battery is the only issue you are having.
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I have similar issues. After rooting and flashing Humble on my phone, my battery life sucked, much much worse than stock.
I then put the standard 2.3.6 on it and it still sucks. Full 4G all day, barely use it.
It's sat on my desk at work all day today. Sent a few texts. I've installed betterybatterystats and nothing is taking up a large portion of partial wakelocks.
Really don't understand how people are getting such good numbers...
I find that by far and away the best way to increase battery life is to lock my phone in 3G unless I am downloading something & want the 4G speed.
I have a home screen widget that turns 4G on/off & only turn on 4G occasionally. I do not leave WiFi on although I leave GPS on at all times & find that uses almost no battery life whatever.
~John
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I have similar issues. After rooting and flashing Humble on my phone, my battery life sucked, much much worse than stock.
I then put the standard 2.3.6 on it and it still sucks. Full 4G all day, barely use it.
It's sat on my desk at work all day today. Sent a few texts. I've installed betterybatterystats and nothing is taking up a large portion of partial wakelocks.
Really don't understand how people are getting such good numbers...
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I thought my battery was bad then i looked at that graph. I don't even get it... The screen is mostly off and the signal is green most of the time.
It may be some rogue app on your phone. Backup your apps and do a factory reset. If your battery life significantly improves, restore your apps one by one and find the culprit.
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I thought my battery was bad then i looked at that graph. I don't even get it... The screen is mostly off and the signal is green most of the time.
It may be some rogue app on your phone. Backup your apps and do a factory reset. If your battery life significantly improves, restore your apps one by one and find the culprit.
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I see that you're running GC GBE 2.1, did they happen to fix the hotboot issue that im experiencing in the older release?
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i flashed GC onto my phone in mid september. since then i've tried calibrating the battery several times. a totally futile exercise it seems. What setup are you running now? 2.2.1 with EE4 modem? Rooted?
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Just stock EE4, unrooted, will do OTA as soon as I get the notification. Battery life is not that good, I can get 14 or so hours of use leaving it on 3G most of the time, but on Gummy I would get 50+% drain just having it sit overnight. Now leaving it sit overnight doesn't kill it.
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I see that you're running GC GBE 2.1, did they happen to fix the hotboot issue that im experiencing in the older release?
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Hotboots are there but only like one every 2 days. The status bar glitch is still there. I use gc because i can't stand the default lock screen.
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Hotboots are there but only like one every 2 days. The status bar glitch is still there. I use gc because i can't stand the default lock screen.
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hmmm.. and what glitch is that?
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hmmm.. and what glitch is that?
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If you pull out the charger at 100%, it force closes (rest of phone is usable) and comes back inn a few seconds.
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ok so here's the deal.. my phone has been off the charger for about 4 hours and im already down to 40% left. I live in a 4g area but it is spotty in many areas, including my workplace. I have gps (for weather updates and nav, when i need it) and wifi on at all times. i am running the EP4P modems on GummyCharged Froyo ROM 2.0. I have the screen brightness turned all the way down. No overclocking.
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #30
I have tried several different methods to calibrate the battery but it doesnt seem to help. When i'm at home and using wifi the battery life is pretty good. so is it my modem? the ROM? my kernel? Can anyone help me get the most out of my phone? I've tried various modems but have stuck with GC since I loaded it back in sept.
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you prob shouldnt be using that ROM..its kinda outdated...just flash the new ALL IN ONE ODIN of EP4D...my battery life is pretty sick...i left it unplugged all night and saw a tiny drop..my phone was connected via wifi tho..if my phone is in 4g the battery loses pretty quickly or if my screen is on ultra bright..
I'm running the stock, rooted, manually-debloated EP4P and I've been getting downright stellar battery life.
My kids watched an hour of Netflix this morning while getting ready, and now (almost 10 hours later), I'm still at 63%.
But! (and here's the kicker) - I leave WiFi on all the time (I'm contemplating buying Woofi to save even more battery when I'm not at home or work) and have my WiFi sleep policy set to "Never".
This is (one of) the key(s). It doesn't matter how strong your 3G or 4G signal is, WiFi will always save you battery. 3G is less battery intensive per-time, but much more battery intensive per-byte. 4G is less battery intensive per-byte, but much more battery intensive per-time. WiFi is much more battery intensive per-time, but wildly less battery intensive per-byte.
In other words, for the same download, you'll use the least battery on WiFi (even with a slower than LTE connection), 4g in the middle, and 3G the most.
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I'm running the stock, rooted, manually-debloated EP4P and I've been getting downright stellar battery life.
My kids watched an hour of Netflix this morning while getting ready, and now (almost 10 hours later), I'm still at 63%.
But! (and here's the kicker) - I leave WiFi on all the time (I'm contemplating buying Woofi to save even more battery when I'm not at home or work) and have my WiFi sleep policy set to "Never".
This is (one of) the key(s). It doesn't matter how strong your 3G or 4G signal is, WiFi will always save you battery. 3G is less battery intensive per-time, but much more battery intensive per-byte. 4G is less battery intensive per-byte, but much more battery intensive per-time. WiFi is much more battery intensive per-time, but wildly less battery intensive per-byte.
In other words, for the same download, you'll use the least battery on WiFi (even with a slower than LTE connection), 4g in the middle, and 3G the most.
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is there an odin file for what you have or did you do the manually debloating after rooting?
Hey not sure if im even putting this in the right thread but im very new to rom and kernel flashing etc
Im running CleanRom 5.0 and Beastmode 4.3 Kernel
My battery life right now is 30% after 8 hours...what am i doing wrong both the rom and kernel have allegedly good battery life...i recently flashed both like 2 days ago...am i supposed to let the kernel and rom calibrate etc before i freak out about the poor battery?
My screen is using abt 60%
voice 20%
standby 5
whats app 4% phone idle 4%...not sure what other info to provide but can anyone help me make modifications for better battery life
im using kernel tuner i tried governor: badass, wheatley, intellidemand..my screen brightness is veryy low i took it off auto because i felt it was sucking it even faster. I dont think im overclocking...random apps like youtube, facebook etc are running in the background is this a huge problem?
someone pls help!
thanks
What is your screen on time?
60% brightness isnt "low" by any means, I usually leave mine on 40%. You made a good choice to take the phone off auto brightness.
Personally I got really bad battery life with beastmode. I now run flar2's experimental 1.5 GHz kernel and couldn't be happier.
Radios also have a significant impact on battery life. The 2.29 radio + ril has worked best for me with battery life.
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Yeah you have to keep in mind how you're using your phone. If your screen is on for a lot of taht 8 hours, that's a decent run.
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What is your screen on time?
60% brightness isnt "low" by any means, I usually leave mine on 40%. You made a good choice to take the phone off auto brightness.
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Think he means screen is using 60% on the battery usage stats, not screen brightness.
60% is fairly high. I think he just has the screen on a lot. Brightness may also be a factor. Only about 4-5 hours if screen-on time is to be expected on low brightness.
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Battery life
Hey guys, I've recently bought a AT&T HTC One X. This is my first smartphone, and it is fully stocked, locked bootloader and no root, android 4.0.4 and software version 2.20.502.7, really like the phone. However, I am not really impressed with the battery life. I would usually charge it over night for around 8 hours, take it off in the morning at around 08:00, take it to school, casually check facebook/gmail, maybe watch one or two videos and by the time I get home at around 15:30, the battery would be at around 15%. I was wondering whether this is normal and if there is any point of my rooting the device and flashing any custom roms?
I have disabled all the AT&T bloatware, decreased my screen brightness to around 25%, no live wallpapers, disabled auto syncing, wifi and mobile data mobile switched on only when I use it, only have a weather/clock widget and a couple of games. So I have been researching about rooting and customer roms for about a month now, and found out that some members have amazing battery life times with Cleanroms and custom kernels, so I was wondering whether the latest 5.1 Cleanrom with a Beastmode kernel 4.4 would cause any damage to my phone and whether any of you guys are using it?
Thanks for your time!
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Hey guys, I've recently bought a AT&T HTC One X. This is my first smartphone, and it is fully stocked, locked bootloader and no root, android 4.0.4 and software version 2.20.502.7, really like the phone. However, I am not really impressed with the battery life. I would usually charge it over night for around 8 hours, take it off in the morning at around 08:00, take it to school, casually check facebook/gmail, maybe watch one or two videos and by the time I get home at around 15:30, the battery would be at around 15%. I was wondering whether this is normal and if there is any point of my rooting the device and flashing any custom roms?
I have disabled all the AT&T bloatware, decreased my screen brightness to around 25%, no live wallpapers, disabled auto syncing, wifi and mobile data mobile switched on only when I use it, only have a weather/clock widget and a couple of games. So I have been researching about rooting and customer roms for about a month now, and found out that some members have amazing battery life times with Cleanroms and custom kernels, so I was wondering whether the latest 5.1 Cleanrom with a Beastmode kernel 4.4 would cause any damage to my phone and whether any of you guys are using it?
Thanks for your time!
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Are you using LTE? I found that my battery would drain very quickly when set to use LTE, even if I'm on wifi. I guess the LTE towers were further away or something because my signal would drop really low. I leave my phone on 4g for the most part now, only switching to LTE when I really need it, and I can get two days of battery with light usage. I've only recently flashed CleanROM so I would expect it to get better, but it's too early to tell. I've only got 22 minutes of screen time, but my phone has been on for 9 hours and it's at 85%.
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Are you using LTE? I found that my battery would drain very quickly when set to use LTE, even if I'm on wifi. I guess the LTE towers were further away or something because my signal would drop really low. I leave my phone on 4g for the most part now, only switching to LTE when I really need it, and I can get two days of battery with light usage. I've only recently flashed CleanROM so I would expect it to get better, but it's too early to tell. I've only got 22 minutes of screen time, but my phone has been on for 9 hours and it's at 85%.
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Wow, that sounds good, even with that much screen time the standby is much better than on my device. Sorry I forgot to mention, I live in the UK and LTE or 4G is only available in major cities. However, my phone is AT&T and is sim-unlocked, and I get the '4G' mark on the top of the screen, therefore I think it might be the HSPA+ that is available in my area, which I rarely use anyway.
Is it the stock kernel that you have flashed with the rom?
Thanks.
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Are you using LTE? I found that my battery would drain very quickly when set to use LTE, even if I'm on wifi. I guess the LTE towers were further away or something because my signal would drop really low. I leave my phone on 4g for the most part now, only switching to LTE when I really need it, and I can get two days of battery with light usage. I've only recently flashed CleanROM so I would expect it to get better, but it's too early to tell. I've only got 22 minutes of screen time, but my phone has been on for 9 hours and it's at 85%.
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Same here. I'm in and out of LTE all day, so I just leave it on hsdpa unless I am in a solid area and tethering. Made a massive difference in my battery life.
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Wow, that sounds good, even with that much screen time the standby is much better than on my device.
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Just because that person got a particular battery life by toggling off LTE, don't assume that you will get the same results. Battery life often tends to be very reception and location specific.
I leave LTE on 24/7 (as well as WiFi, and brightness on 40%), and can get close to 48 hours on a charge with low usage.
Also, bear in mind that you can't toggle LTE off on AT&T stock ROMs.
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However, my phone is AT&T and is sim-unlocked, and I get the '4G' mark on the top of the screen, therefore I think it might be the HSPA+ that is available in my area, which I rarely use anyway.
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That's correct, on stock AT&T ROMs, the "4G" icon means HSPA+. If its on LTE, it will say "4G LTE".
My guess is that you are just having reception issues. Flashing ROMs and kernels may get you slight improvements in battery. But don't expect it to make a huge difference, or you will likely be disappointed. A different radio may also help.
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Just because that person got a particular battery life by toggling off LTE, don't assume that you will get the same results. Battery life often tends to be very reception and location specific.
I leave LTE on 24/7 (as well as WiFi, and brightness on 40%), and can get close to 48 hours on a charge with low usage.
Also, bear in mind that you can't toggle LTE off on AT&T stock ROMs.
That's correct, on stock AT&T ROMs, the "4G" icon means HSPA+. If its on LTE, it will say "4G LTE".
My guess is that you are just having reception issues. Flashing ROMs and kernels may get you slight improvements in battery. But don't expect it to make a huge difference, or you will likely be disappointed. A different radio may also help.
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Thank you, I will have this in mind. I was wondering whether it was due to reception or was it just the batter malfunctioning. In your opinion, would it be better to wait for the Jelly Bean update and see whether the battery life improves?
Thanks.