I've been noticing less than stellar battery life ever since I got my One X.
Lately I have noticed that sometimes my One X will get slightly hot under use(around the camera area), and then after I'm done using it, it still hot and my battery drains like crazy.
I turn the screen off, kill all apps, wait 5, 10, 30 minutes, even one hour I have waited, and the phone is still warm!
I don't use any apps that run in the background or have services that use a lot of battery. I've checked logcat, betterbatterystats, Cpu Spy and can't find anything wrong. I've tried different roms and the same thing happens.
The fix is simple. I just power it off and on and the problem goes away for a few hours, but then comes back! When I power it off, the area gets ice cold in less than 3 minutes , which tells me something is going on.
I can't figure out a pattern to trigger it but it seems to happen most when my phone switches to WiFi from LTE or vice versa.
Has anyone noticed this? It's been incredibly frustrating.
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After months and months the problem has been found and resolved. It was due to an LTE bug that would happen in certain areas(such as subway stations) if you lost all signal and then regained. The phone would get warm and battery would drop significantly, as much as 2% per minute. The drain would not stop until a full restart.
After trying many many roms, and after about a month testing it, this one has the problem fixed. I haven't tested other ROMS and quite frankly it works so well that I didn't bother testing for other ROMs.
I have this problem too. I put mine to sleep, after waking up from an hour nap the darn thing is hot! And of course the battery drained like crazy. Although it's too early to come to a conclusion, but so far it hasn't happened ever since I turned off autosync and wifi every time I take a nap..
Run betterbatterystats and carat, they can all identify various issues.
My phone does not deep sleep at all. Wtf?
I'm having the same problem, carat and bbs aren't helping
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
See if there are rouge apps running in the background that are keeping the phone from deep sleeping.
Go to Settings -> Wifi -> Advanced -> Best Wi-Fi Performance and make sure it's unchecked. It's been known to prevent deep sleep. I'm not sure it would cause such a huge drop in life or the heat, but every little bit helps.
Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm an advanced user, I've tried everything, carat, BetterBatteryStats, aLogcat, System Panel, Cpu spy, you name it. The phone is actually deep sleeping.
Also, I've noticed that the radio area gets hot more than the cpu area, so it might be a radio issue? I'm running baseband 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08U .
zeuzinn said:
Glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this. I'm an advanced user, I've tried everything, carat, BetterBatteryStats, aLogcat, System Panel, Cpu spy, you name it. The phone is actually deep sleeping.
Also, I've noticed that the radio area gets hot more than the cpu area, so it might be a radio issue? I'm running baseband 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08U .
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I'm on 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L (same as you, except for the L). I noticed that you mentioned that it may be when you're switching between WiFi and LTE, maybe it's continuing to hold on to that LTE connection? Also, where is the radio area in relation to the CPU? I know the CPU is right underneath the camera.
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I'm on 0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L (same as you, except for the L). I noticed that you mentioned that it may be when you're switching between WiFi and LTE, maybe it's continuing to hold on to that LTE connection? Also, where is the radio area in relation to the CPU? I know the CPU is right underneath the camera.
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What is the difference between the L and the U? I've never flashed any radios so I guess I'm using the stock one from the 1.85 update.
I actually just assumed it's the radio because I was testing a cpu stress app to see if it would get "locked" in a high frequency thus causing the drain, but the area that got hot was to left of the camera area, and usually when the problem happens I can sense the warmth more to the right, around the LED flash.
I just charged my phone to 100% and it got warm, I unplugged it and waited a few minutes and the phone was still hot. I turned the phone off and in a matter of minutes (Like 4) , the phone was ice cold again. The plot thickens...
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What is the difference between the L and the U? I've never flashed any radios so I guess I'm using the stock one from the 1.85 update.
I actually just assumed it's the radio because I was testing a cpu stress app to see if it would get "locked" in a high frequency thus causing the drain, but the area that got hot was to left of the camera area, and usually when the problem happens I can sense the warmth more to the right, around the LED flash.
I just charged my phone to 100% and it got warm, I unplugged it and waited a few minutes and the phone was still hot. I turned the phone off and in a matter of minutes (Like 4) , the phone was ice cold again. The plot thickens...
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I don't know what the difference is. I'm running CleanROM DE so it could be that the L is just the radio from 1.88. I never had this heat issue on 1.73, 82, or 85 though. Just the normal amount that threatens to burn your hand off while playing Angry Birds. Maybe try disabling LTE? (Don't ask me how to do that)
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I don't know what the difference is. I'm running CleanROM DE so it could be that the L is just the radio from 1.88. I never had this heat issue on 1.73, 82, or 85 though. Just the normal amount that threatens to burn your hand off while playing Angry Birds. Maybe try disabling LTE? (Don't ask me how to do that)
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Disabling LTE (By changing the APN settings) , makes my 4G(Non-LTE) connection unstable, for some reason. I experience a ton of data drops , so even if fixes the heat problem, it would create a new one. My data connection is rock solid when using the LTE APN .
I'm running stock 1.85 and the battery is great
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I had a similar problem before until I installed CleanROM LE 2.0 (and above) I noticed the problem when I connected to wifi after I had lost signal from my commute every day. BBS didn't really help, and it seemed the problem would compound over time, eventually getting to a point where I was losing 3% battery ever couple of minutes.
After I installed the Lite Edition, the problem hasn't appeared since. Battery life seems to be draining normally and the phone doesn't get hot when not in use. It could be something that was removed from Sense that helped the issue, but I'm honestly not sure.
I do remember that before I switched to the Lite edition I tinkered with some settings, and I noticed that Latitude was set to update my location. I turned it off (it's off by default on the Lite Edition ROM), but I'm not sure if that helped my problem. Maybe try disabling that and see what happens.
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I had a similar problem before until I installed CleanROM LE 2.0 (and above) I noticed the problem when I connected to wifi after I had lost signal from my commute every day. BBS didn't really help, and it seemed the problem would compound over time, eventually getting to a point where I was losing 3% battery ever couple of minutes.
After I installed the Lite Edition, the problem hasn't appeared since. Battery life seems to be draining normally and the phone doesn't get hot when not in use. It could be something that was removed from Sense that helped the issue, but I'm honestly not sure.
I do remember that before I switched to the Lite edition I tinkered with some settings, and I noticed that Latitude was set to update my location. I turned it off (it's off by default on the Lite Edition ROM), but I'm not sure if that helped my problem. Maybe try disabling that and see what happens.
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Wow,I have a very similar usage pattern. I will try that and report back
Can anyone chime in on the difference between the L and the U in the radios?
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There's a thread with flashable versions of all the known radios floating about...There's nothing with a U in it except the Asian radio, but the rest of the baseband version number doesn't match.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
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There's a thread with flashable versions of all the known radios floating about...There's nothing with a U in it except the Asian radio, but the rest of the baseband version number doesn't match.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
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He fixed that now so even the Asian version apparently ends with an L. Does that mean I have an unkown baseband? doubtful. I have installed sick sense hox and so far so good. We'll see.
deep sleep and warm back.
I've noticed this, too.
I've woken up in the middle of the night to encounter my screen on and no gain in battery charge with a super warm back.
Last night I plugged it up at 73% and I woke up this morning with 71% and a fry-an-egg-hot back.
Restarting resolves the issue, and this is only the second timein about 1.5 months, but a concerning issue nonetheless.
Blame calendar sync
I had the exact same problem, and I narrowed it down to auto-sync.
In particular, my phone was constantly sync'ing my work calendar (my work place uses Google calendar/mail). I have a lot of recurring (weekly) events on that calendar, and one of those events was modified shortly before the sync started acting crazy.
How I fixed it:
1. Go into Settings > Apps > All
For "Calendar" and "Calendar Storage" apps, press the "Clear Data" button.
2. Removed my work Google account and re-added it.
Obviously, if it's not the sync that's causing the battery drain or you don't have any calendars synced, then this is not going to fix anything. Just thought I'd share my particular case with everyone.
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Hi there
my phone gets heat up whenever calling for more then 5 minutes
what could be the reason
i think problem with radio
please suggest
most phones heat up the longer you call.
do you mean it gets really hot at 5minutes or do you mean it starts heating up after the 5min mark and gets really hot at something like 30 or 45 mins?
If your phone is getting uncomfortably hot at 5mins, then something might be wrong. I'm not sure the radio is the problem. it would help if you tell us which radio you are using.
Please provide more information.
I've had this sort of thing happen a lot. You can feel the phone putting out heat 5 minutes into a call. This also happens while I'm using Wi-Fi to watch youtube. I'm using the current AT&T radio, 1.14.25.35
My fuze gets hot all the time. charging, wifi tethering, talking... it isnt the phone either, its the battery and that is the scary part.
I don't know. I noticed HUGE battery loss after every call or use of the net. I can only stop it if I shut off the radio and turn it back on, either by disabling it in the connection manager or by restarting the phone. It could very well be that there's a connection between the two problems.
I've only been having that issue with the latest stock ROM.
Try flashing a different radio, and make sure your "rillphone.dll" matches the radio! (Not having the 2 match, can cause serious battery drain!!)
Also, it is quit normal that the phone heats, it runs on a lithium battery and they just warm up if they charge and if they discharge. This is normal and it's nothing more than a chemical reaction in the battery...
You can try turning off '3G', then your phone will use the regular cellphone network, witch is less power consuming (less power drain = less heat in the battery).
Same for wifi, it drains your battery...
Ah. I didn't noticed that there was a rilphone already in my ROM. I tried installing over it, but I guess it didn't stick and that's why the radio was draining power. I tried today and after work I was at 85% where I'm normally down to about 50%.
Well, I still need to test the "quick heat up" during a call, but hopefully I won't be experiencing that anymore.
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I don't know. I noticed HUGE battery loss after every call or use of the net. I can only stop it if I shut off the radio and turn it back on, either by disabling it in the connection manager or by restarting the phone. It could very well be that there's a connection between the two problems.
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Check if you're using TICST (Touch In-Call Screen Tweak.) If the version you're using is lower than 1.2.0, there was a bug that would keep the application running either after a call or after a 'net connection was established; thereby draining the phone battery quickly even with the screen off.
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Check if you're using TICST (Touch In-Call Screen Tweak.) If the version you're using is lower than 1.2.0, there was a bug that would keep the application running either after a call or after a 'net connection was established; thereby draining the phone battery quickly even with the screen off.
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Now that I think about it, I did flash NRG's Genesis Rom the same day. If his previous ROM (one of NRG's. I know. I need to update my sig) had that in there, than that would make much more sense that what I was thinking...
Oh. I tried using Wi-Fi for extended periods of time. The phone didn't get as hot now that all of this has been worked out and it took longer to warm up too. I don't make many calls, so I will need time to see if it fixed my problems with it heating up.
Hey everyone
I have had the one x for 2 days now and have been having a few issues.
I tried searching but couldnt find anything related to my issue.
The last few nights I have left my phone off the charger to see standby battery life. Each night I am losing over 20% in 6/7 hours of sleep time. I have downloaded betterbatterystats now so I should have a good understanding of whats causing it soon. But I am also having an issue where my clock falls behind in time overnight. It falls behind about 10/15 minutes by the time I wake up. Also effects my alarm. As I leave my house it eventually updates and sets the clock back to the correct time.
Anyone have any similar issues? Possibly related issues you think?
Thanks
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Hey everyone
I have had the one x for 2 days now and have been having a few issues.
I tried searching but couldnt find anything related to my issue.
The last few nights I have left my phone off the charger to see standby battery life. Each night I am losing over 20% in 6/7 hours of sleep time. I have downloaded betterbatterystats now so I should have a good understanding of whats causing it soon. But I am also having an issue where my clock falls behind in time overnight. It falls behind about 10/15 minutes by the time I wake up. Also effects my alarm. As I leave my house it eventually updates and sets the clock back to the correct time.
Anyone have any similar issues? Possibly related issues you think?
Thanks
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Are you using the network time (Settings -> Date & Time -> Automatic date & time)? I noticed that it is was not checked by default when I was first setting mine up.
Also, mind sharing what was causing your drain?
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Are you using the network time (Settings -> Date & Time -> Automatic date & time)? I noticed that it is was not checked by default when I was first setting mine up.
Also, mind sharing what was causing your drain?
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I actually had use network time already enabled. I took it off and set time manually. Ill find out tomorrow morning if it does it again.
As far as battery goes:
Im somewhat new to the android scene so not 100% sure at this point.
I believe it was google + auto update pictures on wifi/mobile. I changed to while on charger and manual.
There also seems to be a weird process called "TPD" in betterbatterystats maxed out w/ a red bar , not sure what it means tho.
I will try and get a screenshot up in a sec.
im guessing its total power draw? not sure what it means tho
There seems to be some reported issues with network time sync... dunno if AT&T towers are off or it's attributed to the HOX losing cell signal (mine does this frequently). It causes all sorts of issues when trying to use time-based two-factor auth like Google Authenticator or RSA tokens.
I'm going to try and manually set it and see if that helps retain proper time keeping.
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There seems to be some reported issues with network time sync... dunno if AT&T towers are off or it's attributed to the HOX losing cell signal (mine does this frequently). It causes all sorts of issues when trying to use time-based two-factor auth like Google Authenticator or RSA tokens.
I'm going to try and manually set it and see if that helps retain proper time keeping.
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I checked cell standby and it did say 0% signal loss , but thats what I thought was causing it.
So even with clock set manually it still fell behind 6 min overnight. I'm lost
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Did you ever find out what tpd was? It seems to be a battery life killer on my One X also...
It happened once on my One X. It's been a bug in Sense since the Windows Mobile days. Dunno when HTC will get around to fixing it.
I am having daily problems with this as well. ClockSync app is only good for readjusting as it seems to synchronize overnight and that is when as you all have mentioned, is when the clock falls short. for me i sleep at midnight and wake up at 8:30 and the clock on my hox is slower by 10-15 minutes. this is on a DAILY. this is super super aggrevating and I don't know what to do. Is it possible to get a new HOX?
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Is it possible to get a new HOX?
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It's a bug in Sense so you should either exchange for a Galaxy S III or wait for a stable CM9 or CM10 ROM.
I haven't had this issue for a long time. Ever since I started using clean rom. Worth a shot to try as well.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I had similar clock issues when I got my HOX. Never totally figured it out, but I am on manual time and have ClockSync set to sync every hour. No problems since then.
ClockSync can be set to automatically fix your clock if you have root.
realized the only thign that helped me was upgrading firmware. i was on 1.73, now installed 1.85 RUU and everything is cleannnn and good to go!
Hi,
I've got an HTC One S since a few weeks (got it with the 1.57 FW I think). It's a stock one, not from a carrier. No branding.
The battery life was great, 2 to 3 days with normal use.
But yesterday evening I proceeded to the OTA update and since then, trouble began
Battery life is much, much lower. After 12 hours standing on my desk in the office, I got 10% remaining!
Anytime I switch the screen ON, I see there is some data being sent (or received) because the "arrows" are full. If I check in system panel lite, there's always 1 or 2 kb/s of traffic.
Also, the phone is a bit warm, quite often.
Has anyone else noticed this? That's rather annoying :/
Could be faulty? I have the same phone with no carrier or branding and not had any problems at all.
Like faulty hardware? Seems unlikely to me since it worked well with 1.57. Also, sending data isn't hardware related
Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/
Try an app called Badass Battery monitor. It should tell you what's eating your battery.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
Sent from my rooted and debloated T Mobile HTC One S
I have to say, this phone, at least mines, seems to have a pretty bi polar battery. It's got a case of ADHD.
For example, just the other day, I had the phone fully charged when I awoke at 9am, after playing Temple Run, surfing the web, using GPS, streaming and listening to music, playing more Temple Run, fiddling around with the OS, checking emails, sending texts, talking on the phone a bit, downloading apps, with about 25-30% brightness, I ended up with 18% battery remaining after a good 11 hours of very heavy use. I was quite pleased, considering the inordinate amount of usage I had with the phone all day.
(BTW, I use Juice Defender, which has helped tons in reducing battery drainage for almost every phone I've owned in the past 3 months, including the One S)
Yesterday, I had the phone charged at 100% when I awoke at 9am, with a little bit of use, by 12am, I had 63% remaining, same brightness, but with much much less use then the day prior. By the time 3pm hit, I was at about 30%, and by 5pm, it was drained to 18%, mostly on standby. By my estimation, that's 8 hours of usage, same brightness levels as the day before, using Juice Defender, but with much much less fiddling around with pretty much everything on the device.
I went ahead and disabled Juice Defender today to see if it would make a difference, and the battery actually got a bit worse, so I went ahead and re-enabled it and it immediately improved.
So I'm a bit perplexed, I haven't gotten any official updates, still running on the original stock build, but ultimately, I guess this is what is too be expected with an early build. Hopefully future updates WILL fix these issues and not hinder them more. Granted it's still much better then my HTC Amaze and Galaxy Nexus, which drained 4% the moment I took them off charger.
Thanks for your input, I'll check again today how the phone goes.
I played with all the settings and menus yesterday, and found something strange. In the "downloads" app, there was a "system update" download. That's quite normal since I downloaded and applied the OTA the day before. But it was referred as "ongoing", like it was still downloading a part of the OTA zip file AFTER I applied it (and rebooted a couple of times)
In phone settings, about, updates, it was also written "ongoing"
Now this is over (I don't know why and how) and the network usage seems back to normal. I'll try today to see how the battery drain is
Anyway, it's s strange the phone was still downloading the update zip file after having applied it. AND that it was downloading it on the 3G at a very lowered bitrate (like background) while I downloaded it on the wifi the day before
Anyway...
The battery life of my One S seems to have declined as well since the update. Before the update my battery lasted 2 days easily with moderate usage. Now I have 20-30% left at the end of the day from a full charge since 9am. This is with very light usage (mostly on standby from 9 to 5).
I did turn on best wifi performance recently so I just to turned that off to see if it helps but I really doubt that.
Hello guys, I have same problem, but my phone wasting energy on "phone radio" process, just look at screens below. I tried using stock Rom with last update, trickdroid, and now it happend on leedroid v.2 . Btw I changed 4 micro sim cards with several providers, but no result. I really need help with this issue, because my battery draining very very
fast...
Thank you
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA
I had a similar problem a few days ago, using Lee´s ROM.
I noticed that the drain had something to do with autosync. As soon as I turned off autosync (leaving mobile internet on) drainage went back to normal.
I still don´t know what caused this since I only had the google account, weather and dropbox installed.
Anyway, after doing a fresh install, the problems seem to have gone.
Of course I can´t be completely certain of it until some more days of testing/usage.
I also noticed quite a few problems since the latest OTA update.
Not only does the battery drain fast, the phone also feels extremely hot when browsing on 3G.
The phone does cool down pretty quickly when turning off 3G but it feels like I burned my hands
Here are a few screenshots.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-46-08.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-51-52.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52039330/2012-05-10_13-59-10.png
I also experienced weird things when connected to EDGE (2.75G).
3G (HSPA) coverage on BASE (KPN) sucks in Belgium
Look at the video below for more details.
Has anyone else experienced this yet?
http://youtu.be/3g8FLpWDAYM
I also contacted HTC about this issue and they recommended a hard reset.
Unfortunately this doesn't help at all, I still get these weird glitches
mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.
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mattionline, can you get a logcat when the phone's doing this weird stuff? It looks like the Home button is being pressed repeatedly and if logcat confirms it then it's probably a hardware problem.
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Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.
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Here are some details.
In Mobile usage, just for today (less than 24h)
"Media" has used 13MB of background data
"Android OS" has used 5MB, also background
Android OS gives no more details. Media is told to include "Download manager" "DRM protected content storage" "Media storage" and "Downloads"
This sounds like a lot of background data :/
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I just fixed someone else phone that had the exact same symptoms. In the end I narrowed down the problem to one of his weather apps.
He had a live wallpaper that reflected the current weather, weather on his lock screen and a beautiful widgets weather thing. I never did figure out exactly which one it was I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
I don't know if it's something "weather" related for you but it maybe it will help.
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Do you need root to make a logcat ? My phone is not rooted and I'm not planning to do it. How can this be a hardware problem ? I never had this problem before. I'm sure that it's a software bug.
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you don't need root, just enable usb debugging in development options and connect the phone to your pc. You need to have the android sdk installed.
Sup guys , some of you don't seem to realize that there are many reasons why your battery drains, what you might think is, "quickly". A few tips to keep minimal battery out put...1 keep brightness down, the screen itself sucks juice probably the most. 2 check your apps, some apps send and receive data and/or are kept running in the background. You might have to enable/disable setting on shove apps. 3 widgets, widgets like battery meters, CPU meters, things like this constantly refresh to keep real time info. That also eats up alot of juice . 4 Turn off WiFi or any other thing like that when your not using it. WiFi continually sucks nice. Lastly, invest in some app that will help you close apps. Basically, tweek everything you might think that the os can run without. The less your CPU has to do, the more juce you save.
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA
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[...]I just turned off all there and told him he was crazy.
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This made me lol hard.
Best advice ever.
But yeah, on the 1.0 version of Leedroid I had quite some drain, too.
When I turned off autosync it went back to normale. I only had my google account, dropbox (with syncing off) and the weather thingy set up and never figured out which one was resposible.
After installing Lee´s 2.0 ROM everything is fine.
I suppose there really is something wrong with the autosync and maybe with the weather stuff in particular.
My problem didn't go away with stopping auto sync, even without it, I had a constant data flow
Anyway, I rebooted the phone twice and the issue was gone.
It happened again a few days later, after the phone did shut down because of low battery. I put it on charger and turned it on, then, I noticed the 3G arrows were always on. After I unplugged it from the charger the battery went down in 10 hours. After a reboot, problem gone...
Since then, nothing...
And please note than when the problem is here, it's media and android os using a lot of data
I have been having one S problems too - I am on my second phone after the first one became reliably unresponsive every time I turned on mobile data. More relevant to this discussion, my battery died shockingly last night. Normally it drains at a few percent an hour when I am not using it (i.e. when asleep!) but I woke this morning to find it totally dead - that is 30% plus gone in 5 hours without it being in use.
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
Little to no signal is a battery killer.
Right, but the phone drains like crazy after the signal is regained. It doesn't drain much while there is no signal. Besides, what are people supposed to do when they lose signal? Restart the phone afterwards or lose all battery?
Also, some days it works just fine (and I still take subway to work on those days and lose signal) - so not consistent. I don't think it's simply the fact that no signal kills my battery in this case.
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Little to no signal is a battery killer.
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But OP is getting huge drops in the battery level when network signal is green (full signal strength); and also screen mostly off. Which is very odd . . .
Sounds like there are other folks experiencing this issue, related to signal drop in LTE (riding a subway, etc.):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719227
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Step 1: Remove sense.
Step 2: Proceed to experience the best battery life I have ever seen on an Android device.
If you do not want to remove sense then you need to take a very close look at your apps because something in the apps is responsible. I personally think its HTC sync or some other rediculous service that comes preinstalled on the phone. Something is trying to sync or communicate and is hanging.
Like I said, get rid of sense and save yourself the hassle. Nova Prime + AOKP = the best mobile operating system known to man.
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
neocryte said:
I am a bit new when it comes to Android and all the various ROMs out there. To remove Sense, do I need to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM? Or can I install an alternate launcher (like Nova Prime)?
Thanks!
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To remove sense you'll need to install a custom ROM such as AOKP or cm9. Those will remove sense. You can find AOKP in the general section under the title "AOKP lives!!" and cm9 under developement. They both have flaws such as the camcorder not working, but considering the flaws that sense has out of the box, you're much better off in my opinion. cm9 and AOKP will get infinitely better in the coming weeks as they iron out the bugs. Sense is disgusting bloatware that is piled on top of stock android. It takes a ton of resources and makes even the simplest tasks a chore. Once you go to an AOSP ROM I don't think you'll ever go back. I can multi task away for hours and come back to another app that wasn't closed out of memory. Try that with sense.
To install a ROM you'll need to:
Root
unlock bootloader
Install a custom recovery
Backup your entire ROM with that recovery
Flash whatever you want
All of the directions of how to do this are in the dev section. Let me know if you have any questions.
Installing a AOSP ROM (such as CM9 and AOKP) will completely "desense" your phone.
Installing a ROM based on stock (like all of the CleanROMs) will get rid of most of the HTC stuff but Sense will still be there.
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
neocryte said:
Thank you seh and rohan, I will give that a try. Will read up on it and let you know if I have questions.
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Seriously just go check it out in the dev section. If you are unsure or have any questions at all come back here and let me know. I can walk you through all of it. Don't be afraid of ruining your device or anything like that. This stuff is all one click these days and isn't bad at all. I can literally walk you through every step if needed. Just check it out yourself though, I bet you'll be fine
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
neocryte said:
Thanks again. Reading through the dev section now. Seems relatively straight-forward... just need to get home to get this stuff going.
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FYI, the root process failed for me 2 times before it took. Just keep trying and it will go. Once you are rooted, you'll never have to plug your phone into a computer again. You can do anything from the device, no questions asked.
neocryte said:
Hi guys,
I am hoping someone may notice what's going on with my device... I am at a loss. Attaching all screenshots and dump file from BetterBatteryStats (may need to open in Wordpad for the spacing work).
To summarize, my battery drain is very inconsistent. Some days it lasts a long time, 2-3 hrs of screen time, can stay in standby for over 2 days. And then some days it drains very quickly, like right now - it drops by 3% every time I basically turn on the screen to check e-mail/messages. I think we can all agree that 4 hrs of standby and 15 mins of screen usage should not use 50% of the battery.
I have tried two different units (swapped thinking my battery was faulty), and the issue persists - so I think it has to be something related to my software setup. I am running the AT&T LTE stock phone, 1.85 firmware. I have tried doing the full factory reset (clearing all settings/apps/storage), and cycling the battery.
Some folks have mentioned that my drain seems to begin when I hit an area with low/no signal (I take the subway to work in the morning), and then persists - as if something is trying to sync/connect somewhere, but can't... so it keeps looping and draining the battery.
My autosync is only on for Gmail, Google calendar (not contacts), and Weather (every 2 hrs only). Phone is not overly hot, battery is at 86 degrees right now. My brightness is at 40%.
If someone has any ideas, please share - I am at a loss, I don't know what to do... but battery life has got to be better than this, at least in terms of consistency.
Thanks so much.
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Here is what I'd do before installing custom ROMs etc. (Not that I am discouraging you against that but, if your device is indeed faulty then unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty and HTC may not replace/fix it.) And, you'd have wasted countless hours trying to fix the issue with software that was hardware to begin with.
1. Run the battery test *#*#3424#*#*, press 'Accept', Go to More and run 'Battery Test'. Follow instructions in there. If the battery isn't faulty i.e. after one hour the battery level is still greater than 85% (The function test shows a different number) your battery is fine. Else, ask HTC to fix it.
2. If your phone passes the battery test; turn on 'Airplane mode' when you get into an area with spotty signal. This should address your suspicion regarding that.
3. Display: display seems to be draining the most battery - doesn't mean it actual does but, at least the phone seems to think it is. Try reducing brightness to around 20% for a day - I know it is too dim but, it will eliminate that possibility.
4. If you have facebook installed - turn off all syncing. Especially the HTC sense social plugin always tries to update it from facebook.
Based on the screenshots, it seems that the battery drains very quickly when you have the screen on, even with good signal strength.
Lastly, as an alternative to point 2 above, turn on airplane mode for 1 hour and turn off sync, remove all widgets from home screen(s) and just use the phone on wifi with stock browser - see if it drops as quickly or not.
Having gone through it, I understand how frustrating this is. In the end, I rooted and completely desensed my phone (only keeping essentials - basically recreating clean rom). I do not use Auto Sync but manually engage it every few hours to update everything. And, keep the brightness to 30% most of the time.
Hope this helps, good luck.
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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I experience the same thing. After my subway commute and after I regain signal, battery doesn't drop until a couple of seconds after o turn on my screen, but it drops like 3%.
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Rooting, and unlocking the bootloader
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
JCon0320 said:
I was able to go from stock 1.85, to sick-sense ROM in a matter of minutes yesterday. I was nervous at first even though I know what I was doing, although all was good after following the instructions given on each step of the process. I haven't really bricked a phone before because this was my first smartphone ever, But I believe that the worse thing that can happen is soft bricking your phone, which can be resolved by RUU. I hope this helps you out.
Regarding OP, I had MUCH MUCH more battery life compared to bone stock. I used to get 3 hrs screen on time with 20% brightness, now Im at 4-5 on 50% under similar usage. One last thing to note; LTE, Auto sync, GPS, and low reception, are the most battery eating thing on the phone assuming you don't have rouge apps (wakelocks).
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GPS has no affect on battery life unless it is being actually used. Its not going to drain battery just by being enabled. Auto sync has minimal impact on battery as well, unless you are getting 5 emails every 1 minute. Push is always more battery friendly than pull. (unless there is heavy traffic)
About the low reception thing. While it does indeed affect battery life when the phone is constantly looking for service, it is not as bad as you would think. I sit in an area at my work that has about 1 bar of service. The phone will go from 1-0 bars to searching, about every 5 minutes or so ALL day long for 8 hours. To see the impact this had on my battery life, I did some experimenting. I basically ran my phone in airplane mode for 3 days and then compared and averaged the results over 3 days of normal use with the phone having bad service.
I lost 8% more over an 8 hour work day.
neocryte said:
john_tillman, thanks for the suggestions as well!
1. I did the battery test, finished at 92%. So I think I'm OK there.
2. I will try doing airplane mode before subway rides going forward, will see if that helps.
3. Something is funky with the way the battery meter app is measuring this. Basically the battery doesn't move - and then when I unlock the phone, it drops like 3%. So my suspicion is that I'm losing battery, it just doesn't get updated until I fire up the screen.
4. Yep, all syncing is turned off. I only have Gmail/Gcalendar syncing now.
I've been playing around with the phone(s) earlier as well - keeping it in airplane mode and just watching movies/etc. makes it last forever. It really does seem to be something with the signal and perhaps something in Sense.
Have you tried CleanRom? I do like the visuals in Sense, would be sad to go to bone-stock ICS... but battery is more important.
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No, I didn't try clean ROM. But, I took the change log from one of the clean ROMs and deleted most of the apps that can be safely deleted. So, I do sort of have a clean rom and it works fine so far - in terms of battery life. When I used to boot with stock rom, I used to have 150 - 170 mb free ram. With the clean up that I performed - now, free RAM is 270 - 300 mb after a reboot.
Try disabling LTE and see how your battery does.
Click on mobile network settings, and choose gsm/hspa auto.
Hi everyone,
I need some advice from the community. I've had my XT925 for almost 2 years now, and in the last 6-8 moths I've been having weird battery drain that I couldn't solve. It started back on JB a while ago, and I thought "oh hell, KK is around the corner, it'll go away when I wipe everything". I was mistaken: I first tried the soak test leaked KK, and had the same erratic behaviour. And when the final release became available, I reflashed a full stock JB then flashed the zip OTA posted in general. I'm now on 4.4.2 stock moto kitkat.
I hardly last a full day, without a heavy usage. Many SMS (10-50), maybe 1-2 MMS, wifi ON most of the time at work, phone forced to 3G (4G cover is sporadic and when I turn it on I have a lot of 3g/4g switches). In the last week, I've frozen nearly every app I had with TB, to (hopefully) isolate the ones that drain too much battery. No luck so far.
Today I've decided to take a series of screenshot so maybe someone can help me troubleshoot what's wrong. They are attached to this post. I don't see anything out of the ordinary, but I'm no expert, so maybe someone can elighten me on any abnormality. I had roughly 40 min of vocal call today, which is a lot compared to my usual usage (average, maybe 3-5 min a day of voice call). This may have contributed to drain slightly more today, but there is not so much difference at the end of the day.
Basically, I recall lasting easily 1..5 days with the phone stock out of the box. Now, it's hard to reach >12h. I thought maybe the battery was dying (although *#*#4636#*#* said it was in good shape) so i replaced the battery by a brand new Moto one last week. There was absolutely no change at all.
So... here you go: any idea on what could be causing the drain ? Obviously I've cleared cache and wiped data many times already, and I'd like to avoid doing it again and again and again. Note that on the screenshot, there is many apparent time with bad signal. I have no idea why it shows like this since I'm always 3-4 bars at work. This is weird, and came with KK (JB sowed green signal at the same place).
Thanks for your help!
edit: just swa my thread title is missing a "d"... but cannot edit.
CoinCoin88 said:
Hi everyone,
I need some advice from the community. I've had my XT925 for almost 2 years now, and in the last 6-8 moths I've been having weird battery drain that I couldn't solve. It started back on JB a while ago, and I thought "oh hell, KK is around the corner, it'll go away when I wipe everything". I was mistaken: I first tried the soak test leaked KK, and had the same erratic behaviour. And when the final release became available, I reflashed a full stock JB then flashed the zip OTA posted in general. I'm now on 4.4.2 stock moto kitkat.
I hardly last a full day, without a heavy usage. Many SMS (10-50), maybe 1-2 MMS, wifi ON most of the time at work, phone forced to 3G (4G cover is sporadic and when I turn it on I have a lot of 3g/4g switches). In the last week, I've frozen nearly every app I had with TB, to (hopefully) isolate the ones that drain too much battery. No luck so far.
Today I've decided to take a series of screenshot so maybe someone can help me troubleshoot what's wrong. They are attached to this post. I don't see anything out of the ordinary, but I'm no expert, so maybe someone can elighten me on any abnormality. I had roughly 40 min of vocal call today, which is a lot compared to my usual usage (average, maybe 3-5 min a day of voice call). This may have contributed to drain slightly more today, but there is not so much difference at the end of the day.
Basically, I recall lasting easily 1..5 days with the phone stock out of the box. Now, it's hard to reach >12h. I thought maybe the battery was dying (although *#*#4636#*#* said it was in good shape) so i replaced the battery by a brand new Moto one last week. There was absolutely no change at all.
So... here you go: any idea on what could be causing the drain ? Obviously I've cleared cache and wiped data many times already, and I'd like to avoid doing it again and again and again. Note that on the screenshot, there is many apparent time with bad signal. I have no idea why it shows like this since I'm always 3-4 bars at work. This is weird, and came with KK (JB sowed green signal at the same place).
Thanks for your help!
edit: just swa my thread title is missing a "d"... but cannot edit.
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i would get gsam battery monitor with the root companion (second app) so you can get a better idea of whats going on. some shots of the app view screen, then change the view to view time held awake, then a couple shots of the details on the highest ones.
you can then get an app called unbounce that can limit the wakelocks, but it requires some reading so you dont break anything.
if you could take shots in English that would be great, otherwise i wont be able to help much with the diagnosis.
I was trying not to rely on wakelock limiting apps, as there's no reason for the drop from 1.5 (2) days to 12 h, with all custom apps frozen. I didn't know unbounce but the same goes for Greenify. I'll try the widget you mentioned and report back.
edit: yup i'll switch to english for the shots next time.
Oh and I forgot to mention this: from time to time, the drain won't be so apparent (e.g. 40% remaining after 12-15 h) and in a matter of minutes, the phone will drop to 10-12%. However it hasn't happened sicne I last turned off 4G, so maybe it was due to constant 3g/4g switches.
CoinCoin88 said:
Oh and I forgot to mention this: from time to time, the drain won't be so apparent (e.g. 40% remaining after 12-15 h) and in a matter of minutes, the phone will drop to 10-12%. However it hasn't happened sicne I last turned off 4G, so maybe it was due to constant 3g/4g switches.
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no doubt, in weak and especially no signal areas, it will burn through battery like crazy.
Here it as, after a nearly complete discharge. Phone unplugged around 10am, 12h15 later I'm at 10% remaining, with not so much usage. Screenshots are attached. What's weird is that in the last 1h30 the phone has been off wifi (slider "Wi-Fi" is off in settings) but battery status still shows a connected wifi. However you can clearly see a huge drain due to wifi being off and 3g being on (it's the only part of the day it's been using cellular data: I was at the restaurant therefore no wifi). Possibly locatin services using the wifi even though it was disabled ? Anyway I'm not sure this could cause such a quick drain...
edit: as far as the signal bar color in battery status, I've found that grey-yellow stands for "signal 3/4", so it's rather good (solid green is signal 4/4). So it's probbaly not that either...
Ooops forgot the "time held awake" shots. It's definitely Google services messing around, but what... (details of Google services in previous post)
CoinCoin88 said:
Ooops forgot the "time held awake" shots. It's definitely Google services messing around, but what... (details of Google services in previous post)
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some of those push the limits of what i would like to see personally, but none appear out of control to me.
im really not sure how you would go about taming some of that down though, without using a couple apps you dont want to use.
imo, you would need to control some of the wakelocks, and/or disable some of the receivers you done use.
the couple "nlp" wakelocks from google are going to account for a good bit of its waking. nlp is nothing more than google using your location information to build a database from it.
here is whats known about some of the more common offenders, and the testing results from limiting them.
That's what I feared... I'm usually not that bad with messing with the phone, and couldn't see anything obvious either. I've disabled "using wifi to locate" in wifi settings, I'll see how this drops the nlp wakelocks, for starters.
If anyone has a better idea, please don't hesitate
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CoinCoin88 said:
That's what I feared... I'm usually not that bad with messing with the phone, and couldn't see anything obvious either. I've disabled "using wifi to locate" in wifi settings, I'll see how this drops the nlp wakelocks, for starters.
If anyone has a better idea, please don't hesitate
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i have use quite a few of the more popular battery saving apps over the years. i just came across this one yesterday. its shaping up to be the best i have used to date. i wasnt using my phone except for a few minutes this morning, and it went 5 1/2 hours and was still @ 100%.
i also use greenify with root + exposed.
did you disable FAST DORMANCY? I have done it while on JB ? IT did not cause any prob.
Haven't disabled it, mostly because I've never been able to determine if it was being used by carriers in France or not. I've read somewhere that it wasn't, but the source was hardly documented. I've tried to disable it in JB however, and did not see any improvement.
Right now I've disabled Google Now and location history things. I'm trying to reduce the wakelocks as much as I can using settings available from stock rom (and understand at the same time what was causing them). Battery drain is still high, but I'm testing things every 10 min or so, so it's not really representative. I'll update here when I have a better idea of what's going on.
Another thing of interest is xposed with new module called Unbounce. There is a thread for it. All about minimizing wake locks
A few thoughts so far. I haven't tried Greenify or Unbounce yet, this will be the "final stage". For now I'm trying to minimize wakelocks as much as possible without installing third-party apps.
Here are a quick review of what I've found (NB: in the following I translated the menu names myself from french to english and didn't check their actual name... but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which ones I'm referring to if the name is not exactly right):
1) Disabled Google Now and all "Google Location settings" (i.e. "Update location" and "Location history", found within "Google settings" in the drawer).
2) Set location settings to "minimize battery", that is with network and wi-fi.
3) In wi-fi advanced settings, disabled "search always available"
4) Locked the phone to 2G/3G only, because 4G coverage from my carrier (Free Mobile for the frenchies here ) is erratic at best, and caused many 3G/4G switches
5) Some "light" de-bloat (froze all Google apps I'm not using). At first I froze all my apps to mimick a fresh stock system, but there were really not that much difference.
Note that all the tests were ran (mostly) in the same location, on different days, so signal quality should be rather constant (and good) and therefore is not acting as a confounding factor in my tests.
Whats happening when 3G and Wi-Fi are both off ?
Obviously, disabling 3G and wifi gives a very good battery life. I'm talking about something like 2h screen-on and probably 30-40% after a full day (9am to midnight, roughly). I'll double check the exact values for this and update this post with a screenshot asap (= in the upcoming days). With this setting, wakelocks actually correspond to screen-on time. So it's probably the best one can achieve.
edit: 1h of voice communication, 1h15 of screen-on time, 10-15 sms, 1 received MMS (had to enable 3G a few seconds for that of course) => see Screenshot_2014-10-27-23-22-14.png
The decrease at the end corresponds to wifi+3G when I got back home and started using the phone "heavily". Roughly, 40% decrease in 12h. That is what I call a good battery life. Notice how the wakelocks closely match the screen on periods.
Whats happening when 3G is ON and Wi-Fi is OFF
We've discussed a bit the "fastdormancy" thing earlier here. Spending a whole day on 3G made the "modem fastdormancy" process drain a high share of battery (10-20% ? Can't remember exactly, but it was in the top-5 list of draining apps, and had a big wakelock time). Further proof that my carrier doesn't support it. I've therefore edited my build.prop to set
ro.mot.ds.fastdormancy.disable=true
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After that, the process was not found anymore in high-draining apps, and battery life was a little better (again, no values here, I'll update in a few days after I run the tests again and double-check everything).
Can't say much about Google location, but I'd say most requests were not executed.
Whats happening when 3G is OFF and Wi-Fi is ON
Wi-Fi at work did not cause any interesting drain. The phone sat there and was connected all day-long. There were probably a few Google requests to determine its location, with some nlpwakelock, but not really interesting.
What was really interesting was the behaviour outside my workplce (e.g. on the street). I have in my "known networks" some wi-fi hotspots (FreeWifi) that are enabled with my DSL provider: they provide me with codes from my contract that I can use in the street if any other of their customer has a wi-fi enabled on their modem (their is a dedicated SSID broadcasted from their modem). The phone connected automatically whenever it detected this SSID (which was... really often), but the captive portal (to enter credentials) was not filled, because the phone was in my pocket. This caused HUGE wakelocks and drained the battery incredibly fast. I'm talking about draining 50% in an hour or so. I could even feel the phone warming up in my pocket.
So, conclusion here: I think Wi-Fi could be a major cause of battery drain if you have some fav SSID that require credentials through a captive portal.
I'll update in a few days if I find anything else, and to add values to what i've stated here.
Hope that helps!