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NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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Wow!!!!!
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Yeah, between att and Samsung there is a bit more than average.
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Bloat will always be the first thing to go.
How do you disable those on the phone?
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
poker? lol
only google and samsung service application remain ,remove the others will be safe.
wow that is sad, soon we be free, carriers i **** on you
Holy crap. That's insane.
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Yeah I've got to say with the locked bootloader and all this bloat, my initial impression is not that great, unfortunately. Day to day use, the phone is not as fast as my GS3 running slim bean.
Screen and hardware are fabulous, but they really effed up the software this time around. Just went wayyyyyyy overboard. And locked bootloader? Come on now
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soritong said:
How do you disable those on the phone?
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Settings >more >application manager >all
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SysAdmNj said:
Can someone start the list of whats safe to remove/freeze?
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So far I haven't had any problems with all of this junk disabled.
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Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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phositadc said:
NEVER have I seen a phone with so much bloatware. And this is just the stuff I disabled!
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I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
It's more of a matter of form on AT&T's and Samsung's part.
familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
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familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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aleph_0 said:
Bloatware, in and of itself, is a justification for unlocking a devices bootloader and installing a custom rom. How much space is wasted?
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Pretty sure there was less than 10gb free space before I even installed any of my own stuff.
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familyguy26 said:
I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are going to disable all that Samsung software whats the point in getting an S4? It seems their software was the big upgrade this time around and the hardware less so.
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That bloatware is what is causing the lag online reviewers have been mentioning. If you disable/remove it, the phone will have no lag at all.
I'm hopeful to see some AOSP-based ROMS so I can remove the bloat known as TouchWIZ.
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I don't think Com2UsPoker, Adapt Sound, At&T Family Maps, ChoKUKor, YPmobile,TripAdvisor, BlurbCheckout, Match3VS, or most any software displayed in the screenshots are particularly unique to the GS4. I'm sure most of us will not lament the absence of the majority of the displayed list of applications. All in all, it's a rather rude of Samsung and AT&T to put all of that clearly invaluable software on a $700 phone, then make it uninstallable.
Typed on savaged goods.
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In my previous post I was referring to Samsung software.
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phositadc said:
The point? Having a beautiful screen and the best hardware on the market.
I think I speak for many people on this forum when I say that if I could get a GS4 with vanilla Android, I would do so in an instant and never look back.
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Being the best is debatable. Nevertheless if you want a pure stock experience, then you might as well get a Nexus 5 when it comes out. It will be unlocked, cheaper, and probably have better specs.
I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
You guys HAVE root! AND, it does not even trip KNOX!! *Update* He just fixed the APK so test it out again if you can. *Update* FIXED & WORKING!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
BTW: This is NOT my root method, I am simply informing you of the thread so make sure to thank him over there!
Make sure and read the OP and I would remove Kinguser and switch over to SUPER SU. ( Just my opinion ) He is also working on a Super SU version as well. :good:
Now you guys can come out and play with the T-Mobile & Sprint people! Well, half of the way anyways... :good:
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shojus said:
I think you guys may have root! AND, it does not even trip KNOX!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
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Have you given it a whirl yet?
brholt6 said:
Have you given it a whirl yet?
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No, I would have if I wasn't already Knox tripped with my T-Mobile S6... Kinda sucks cause this will be a good thing for Samsung Pay! Also, this new method is going to open up TONS of new devices for root! This guy is brilliant!
Hmmmmm....
My phone is on the list, G920VVRU1AOC3
But, am I brave enough to go for it??
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Hmmmmm....
My phone is on the list, G920VVRU1AOC3
But, am I brave enough to go for it??
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Of course you are! Come on.... I am sure some more simple method will be developed but until then you would want to follow the directions closely. Still in Beta as well and everything is not 100% but I can guarantee he got it rooted! It's just whether you can write to certain partitions or not.
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Of course you are! Come on.... I am sure some more simple method will be developed but until then you would want to follow the directions closely. Still in Beta as well and everything is not 100% but I can guarantee he got it rooted! It's just whether you can write to certain partitions or not.
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I hope this comes soon for the Edge.
If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
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If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
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I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
This looks promising will be trying this after work today on my vzw s6.
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If anyone tries this could you report back on how it goes. I'd be willing to buy a S6 today if this materializes into a true way to root the Verizon s6. I can't tell from the op, but is this root method have wp off? I know someone got root for the turbo a few months ago and it was basically useless.
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What this is going to give you (if it works on your firmware version) is JUST root. So you will be able to do certain things but you CANNOT flash custom roms cause that has to do with the bootloader, and that bad boy is LOCKED tight. I'm not saying it won't happen but probably not. Hopefully someone starts developing Safestrap again (for this device). I left Verizon long ago because of their crap with locking down phones but I still thought you guys would like to know the info i found, seeing as it's a given that every Verizon device will make it next to impossible to achieve root. The root method for the Turbo was a different kind of exploit but I am pretty sure that this method will at least allow you to do some of the basic "must have" rooting tweaks. ie. Ad blocker, totally removing bloat, Hotspot mods, etc. Best thing to do is follow him over at the link I posted. Hope u guys get this all figured out and remember, this is just in beta right now, so if you can't get root that does not mean 100% for sure that this won't work 4 you. Like I said, follow the brilliant guy that made this all possible. :good:
VinceOB said:
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
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I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
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I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
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I have seen a few Verizon guys post success and my friend just successfully rooted his verizon S6 as well. This exploit literally just came out today but I can tell you that the guy working on this has just made root available for a hell of a lot more devices than just the S6! I have seen you over there @jparasita so I know you are probably getting frustrated but hang in there, I'm sure there is a reason that this is happening to a lot of people. Hopefully something simple! Good luck guys!
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I have seen a few Verizon guys post success and my friend just successfully rooted his verizon S6 as well. This exploit literally just came out today but I can tell you that the guy working on this has just made root available for a hell of a lot more devices than just the S6! I have seen you over there @jparasita so I know you are probably getting frustrated but hang in there, I'm sure there is a reason that this is happening to a lot of people. Hopefully something simple! Good luck guys!
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No frustrations I realise that its only in beta phase 1 so its possible with a simple fix it might become more stable. Plus like you said with this exploit you are only gonna be able to do a few limited things until someone comes along and makes something like safestrap. Plus im pretty sure the system will still be write protected. A lot of hurdles to overcome to fully modify this phone. Can you tell me what kernal date youre friend had that was success?
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No frustrations I realise that its only in beta phase 1 so its possible with a simple fix it might become more stable. Plus like you said with this exploit you are only gonna be able to do a few limited things until someone comes along and makes something like safestrap. Plus im pretty sure the system will still be write protected. A lot of hurdles to overcome to fully modify this phone. Can you tell me what kernal date youre friend had that was success?
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By frustration I mean that it's not working... I get SUPER frustrated when I can't get something to work! That's just me though. Lol I am think write protection is most likely the case so who knows? I will ask my buddy here soon as he is coming over after I finish up at work.
Didn't work for me, but hey, it might sooner or later
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What this is going to give you (if it works on your firmware version) is JUST root. So you will be able to do certain things but you CANNOT flash custom roms cause that has to do with the bootloader, and that bad boy is LOCKED tight. I'm not saying it won't happen but probably not. Hopefully someone starts developing Safestrap again (for this device). I left Verizon long ago because of their crap with locking down phones but I still thought you guys would like to know the info i found, seeing as it's a given that every Verizon device will make it next to impossible to achieve root. The root method for the Turbo was a different kind of exploit but I am pretty sure that this method will at least allow you to do some of the basic "must have" rooting tweaks. ie. Ad blocker, totally removing bloat, Hotspot mods, etc. Best thing to do is follow him over at the link I posted. Hope u guys get this all figured out and remember, this is just in beta right now, so if you can't get root that does not mean 100% for sure that this won't work 4 you. Like I said, follow the brilliant guy that made this all possible. :good:
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I'm almost certain mutilsystem will support s6 just give it time.
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I've downloaded and installed the APK, but at the moment my phone just shuts off and isn't rooted when I reboot. Gonna keep trying different things and keep an eye on that thread
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VinceOB said:
Doesnt work. I tried on my S6. Just reboots and does nothing.
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I can confirm did not work for me phone just reboots but a few people have reported working on vzw s6 this is just in beta phase 1 so hopefully with a update it will become more stable.
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Guys! Try it again! He supposedly fixed that bug for your model??? let me know...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3303869&d=1431142784
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I'm almost certain mutilsystem will support s6 just give it time.
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I'm thinking there will be some good things coming out of this for the whole community. :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
Working now!
So im itching to root my phone. Its been a month now and im getting kinda bored.
About the knox
What are the disadvantages when knox is tripped?
xDreDz said:
So im itching to root my phone. Its been a month now and im getting kinda bored.
About the knox
What are the disadvantages when knox is tripped?
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No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.
Is someone woking on it tho?
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No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.
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Is someone woking on it tho?
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This was because we had a older kernel on the s5 where the actual hacking method without tripping knox worked. So we could flash old kernel, root and than get the new kernel back. This isn't possible here
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This was because we had a older kernel on the s5 where the actual hacking method without tripping knox worked. So we could flash old kernel, root and than get the new kernel back. This isn't possible here
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Yes, point is that a new kernel exploit may be found at some point so new way on S7.
Too bad iPhone hackers don't work on android would have likely discovered a method by now
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Time will come where someone will discover thag exploit. The question is " when '
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Too bad iPhone hackers don't work on android would have likely discovered a method by now
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LOL. The Android developers whose work you see here on XDA are as smart / capable as anyone hacking Apple. If there is is a way to do it, they'll figure it out. But Samsung really locked down the S7, so it's not going to be easy even for "iPhone hackers."
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LOL. The Android developers whose work you see here on XDA are as smart / capable as anyone hacking Apple. If there is is a way to do it, they'll figure it out. But Samsung really locked down the S7, so it's not going to be easy even for "iPhone hackers."
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exactly. they are developers. they are not a group of hackers dedicated to finding an exploit in a single device. it was merely an observation but it sounds like you took it personally.
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Time will come where someone will discover thag exploit. The question is " when '
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Not even custom kernel work right
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exactly. they are developers. they are not a group of hackers dedicated to finding an exploit in a single device. it was merely an observation but it sounds like you took it personally.
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They are developers who focus on rooting Android devices, not just application developers. Are you new to this forum? Some of the smartest "hackers" (if you prefer that term) are here, and they've found exploits for many, many Android phones that were supposedly locked down by the manufacturers. My last phone was an LG, and one of the incompetent "developers" here developed Stump and Bump, giving us root and recovery.
Jailbreaking an iPhone is no harder than finding root exploits for modern Android phones. You sound like an Apple fanboy.
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No Samsung Pay/Some other services. No warranty in some areas.
I'm personally holding out for a bit before I root. On S5 ways were discovered to root/flash without tripping Knox. A solution for S7 as far as I know is like what happened on S6 were a dev bootloader was leaked/released.
I've only just got device so going to wait a month or two and if nothing arises and there is something worth rooting for I will root again.
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from my understanding you won't get Samsung pay anyway if it's locked for your phone's region
Thread cleaned can we knock off the android vs apple trolling please
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does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
waninae39 said:
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
The Phone Company said:
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
Zeal415 said:
i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
The Phone Company said:
What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
bryce850 said:
I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.