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After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
kossel said:
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
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Yeah there is. There a lot of site that sell International HTC One S. Of course, its full price.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Z520E-VILLE-COLOUR-UNLOCKED/dp/tech-data/B007H7G6IE/ref=de_a_smtd
kossel said:
After looking many phones, I like One S. but seems it's exclusive for T-mobile?
because the 3g band of T-mobile is differente of my country I would like to know if there is a One S which is not for T-mobile. I need 1900mhz support
thanks
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Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
Some details here
frdd said:
Where do you live?
The One S is exclusive to T-Mobile only in the USA afaik. The international variant (PJ40100) supports WCDMA at 850, 900 and 2100 MHz. T-Mobile USA variant (PJ40110) supports WCDMA at 850, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz but (My speculation here!) I guess if your carrier has a 1900 network they might sell the PJ40110 variant without the branding, isnt this what some canadian carriers do btw?
Some details here
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I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
kossel said:
I live in Mexico, as far as I know 3G band here is 850mhz/1900mhz. I think it's the same with AT&T (because most at&t phones works here). I'm sure 1700/2100 won't work (because once I have droid Incredible 2, never got 3g works)
I don't like One X because it's too big. so any chance HTC One S will work here? (either T-mobile or international)
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I have T-Mobile USA HTC One S with me and on the box it says that it supports 3g of 850, 2100, 1700/2100 and 1900Mhz. I just don't have AT&T sim card to test, but looking at the specs on the box it has to work at 1900Mhz.
I've read that it picks up 4G on at&t just not LTE.
T-MobileUS HTC One S running Stock Rooted 2.21.
Hello, I have a samsung google nexus s i9023. I was using koodo, now i bought a new sim, for mobilicity, and now the sim won't work. is the phone locked? please help, thanks!
MoneyKing said:
Hello, I have a samsung google nexus s i9023. I was using koodo, now i bought a new sim, for mobilicity, and now the sim won't work. is the phone locked? please help, thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2117760
Read that thread.. very similar question, it should help you.
radikl said:
Read that thread.. very similar question, it should help you.
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that thread didn't help. The frequencies are the same... still it won't work
If it works with Rogers/Fido/Koodo, it probably won't work with Mobilicity.
Could the i9023 UMTS spec in gsmarena be wrong? Or are there 2 variants for i9023?
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If it works with Rogers/Fido/Koodo, it probably won't work with Mobilicity.
Could the i9023 UMTS spec in gsmarena be wrong? Or are they 2 variants for i9023?
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why won't it work with mobilicity? the frequencies are the same :S
MoneyKing said:
why won't it work with mobilicity? the frequencies are the same :S
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The frequencies aren't the same...
302 220 Telus Koodo Mobility and Telus Mobility Operational UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900
302 320 Mobilicity DAVE Wireless Operational UMTS 1700
gsmarena i9023
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
MoneyKing said:
why won't it work with mobilicity? the frequencies are the same :S
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Are you sure you have the i9023? If gsmarena specs were indeed correct, it should not have worked with Koodo 3G.
Check the IMEI label under the battery for the model number.
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Are you sure you have the i9023? If gsmarena specs were indeed correct, it should not have worked with Koodo 3G.
Check the IMEI label under the battery for the model number.
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sorry, i actually have the i9020a
is there anyway for this phone to work with any other frequency??
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Are you sure you have the i9023? If gsmarena specs were indeed correct, it should not have worked with Koodo 3G.
Check the IMEI label under the battery for the model number.
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Keen eye. Because Koodo only has UMTS 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - i9020A for AT&T
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100 - i9020T for T-Mobile
So what you would need for mobilicity is a i9020T... They're different hardware, not just a flash away.
polobunny said:
Keen eye. Because Koodo only has UMTS 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - i9020A for AT&T
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100 - i9020T for T-Mobile
So what you would need for mobilicity is a i9020T... They're different hardware, not just a flash away.
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umm what about iphone 3gs?
i had that and i unlocked it, and i sent it to a family member in india and it worked there. why is that?
MoneyKing said:
sorry, i actually have the i9020a
is there anyway for this phone to work with any other frequency??
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Your i9020a supports worldwide 2G bands, and 3G bands for Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo (850/1900) as well as most Asian/European (2100) carriers.
If you want 3G 1700 (Wind/Mobilicity) support, trade for an i9020t.
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Your i9020a supports worldwide 2G bands, and 3G bands for Rogers/Bell/Telus/Koodo (850/1900) as well as most Asian/European (2100) carriers.
If you want 3G 1700 (Wind/Mobilicity) support, trade for an i9020t.
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what if i want to make it work in india?
MoneyKing said:
umm what about iphone 3gs?
i had that and i unlocked it, and i sent it to a family member in india and it worked there. why is that?
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iPhones would be similar to the i9020a. Works with big 3 and most Asian/European (3G 2100) carriers, including India's.
In fact, almost all 3G phones have 3G 2100 support. Buy any 3G phone in North America, unlock and usable in India.
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MoneyKing said:
what if i want to make it work in india?
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As Nexus phones came SIM (carrier) unlocked, you can use it in India (2G or 3G).
_android_ said:
iPhones would be similar to the i9020a. Works with big 3 and most Asian/European (3G 2100) carriers, including India's.
In fact, almost all 3G phones have 3G 2100 support. Buy any 3G phone in North America, unlock and usable in India.
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As Nexus phones came SIM (carrier) unlocked, you can use it in India (2G or 3G).
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kk, thanks, so only companies that support UMTS 2100 will work with the nexus phone, correct?
thanks once again!
MoneyKing said:
kk, thanks, so only companies that support UMTS 2100 will work with the nexus phone, correct?
thanks once again!
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If you are talking about Indian carrier, yes. For worldwide list of companies and their supported frequency, refer to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code.
Your i9020a would have UMTS 850, 1900 and 2100 support.
According to Google specs, Nexus 5 doesn't have 1700 MHz support for Tmobile users who still haven't had the luxury of LTE coverage and are still rocking HSPA+ on 1700Mhz frequency. I hope Google just forgot to add it in on its website or I'd be very disappointed.
WCDMA Band 4 is the same as T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+
sunilvarma said:
WCDMA Band 4 is the same as T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+
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Thanks for the clarification.
I'm dying to know, is the Telus version carrier locked? I have a sinking feeling it is, but one can hope, right?
I just bought one this morning. I will let you know when I get it. I unlocked my moto x for $8 and I'm assuming this should be just as easy and cheap to unlock.
my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.
I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)
Yes, it is locked.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
unlock service
Cool! Which unlocked service did you use?
leppo said:
I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)
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plznote said:
Yes, it is locked.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?
avi30na said:
Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?
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Telus... bought outright
leppo said:
Telus... bought outright
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In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...
avi30na said:
my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.
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the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
sporb said:
the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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from Wikipedia
Wind Mobile provides UMTS wireless services with High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) for data, using its license on the UMTS IV frequency band, also known as Advanced Wireless Services (AWS). Using this band, user equipment transmits at 1710–1755 MHz, and receives at 2110–2155 MHz.
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Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
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sporb said:
the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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sunnycheeba said:
from Wikipedia
Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
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yeah ickecked too, on paper it should work but then again they r all locked to telus/koodo and looks like no one has unlocked theirs yet
Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?
Faruk88 said:
Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?
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Looking at the UK website for the retail Moto G http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-G/moto-g-gb.html
It lists the following bands:
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900
UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
So that's penta-band 3G and EV-DO CDMA!
This may be a mistake and it seems more likely that the version for sale in Europe is actually the quad-band Global GSM model above?
I dropped by at a Telus store today and asked to see the box for a Moto G. The FCC ID on the label was IHDT56PF1.
From the "Exposure Test Report 1" you can see that the WCDMA bands tested were 850 and 1900MHz. (the FCC only tests the bands that are used in the USA): https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=640163&fcc_id=IHDT56PF1
The US GSM version is IHDT56PF2 - differing only in the last digit. The SAR report lists 850, 1700, and 1900MHz: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=836630&fcc_id=IHDT56PF2
So unless some trickery is possible such as flashing the radio ROM of one phone onto the other, the Telus-sold version of the Moto G won't have 1700MHz support out of the box.
The label also had the Industry Canada certification number on it, which was 109O-T56PF1. I searched it on Industry Canada's Radio Equipment List, and got this result:
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel...ssionid=0001VktzEWaH7HTarJ9DM_DcqaQ:6LBRFVSML
Edit: Looks like I can't link to a search result, but you can perform the search yourself here: http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel/srch/nwRdSrch.do?lang=eng
Given that they have the same certification number, it looks like the XT1032 and XT1035 are probably identical hardware. My guess is that the latter will go to another provider like Rogers/Fido.
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In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...
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I just got the Moto G from Koodo for my niece to use on her Telus account. Hopefully, it will work without being unlocked.
I just sold a mint i896 to a friend of mine. That phone was awesome and is still heavily supported with the latest CM releases
Moto G versions
Hey Guys
I'm trying to make a list of Moto G versions, so that people can know which ones will work with their provider in Canada or other countries.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
If you can add your findings in that thread, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks again!
Hey guys!
Just wondering what Moto G versions will be available, specifically what antennas will each version have?
I'm on Wind Mobile in Canada (AWS Band).
So far I found a few diff. versions of this phone, for US, UK and Canadian markets.
US radio specs:
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/moto-g/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp-ways-to-buy.html
Networks
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
Networks
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only (for now)
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
It looks like Telus is selling Global GSM Model
maxqas said:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the International GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
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It looks like US GSM Model (sold on Motorola US site) WILL work with Wind Mobile in Canada!
While AWS transmits on ~1710-1755 MHz and receives on ~2110-2155 MHz, this band is known as 1700 or Band IV or AWS.
2100 refers to Band I (2100 IMT), a totally different band which is used in Asia and Europe, but not in North America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The US version supports AWS because that is what T-Mobile uses in the US, and it's the same band that Wind uses.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1693841-Only-have-2100mhz
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Brasil
Dual SIM version:
http://www.lojaoficialmotorola.com.br/product/celulares/116699802/moto-getrade%3B-dual
Bands:
http://www.motorola.com.br/consumers/MOTO-G/Moto-G/Moto-G-BRPT.html
GSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100
Chile
ferossan said:
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
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Any other models that you guys can add here?
Thanks!
Wow, the UK version actually supports more band, it should be the global version. There are many countries provide Uim card (CDMA sim card) on their CDMA2000 network.
The Brazilian Dual Chip Version has the same Bands of the UK version.
Moto G UK version
jshzhv6 said:
Wow, the UK version actually supports more band, it should be the global version. There are many countries provide Uim card (CDMA sim card) on their CDMA2000 network.
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I was actually wondering the same thing myself. I wanted to buy one here in the UK because it says it supports all the bands (including 1700), but is this in fact true, or is it just the Global version?
Allewar said:
The Brazilian Dual Chip Version has the same Bands of the UK version.
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Are you sure Allewar?
Motorola Brasil and the store they point you to (http://www.lojaoficialmotorola.com.br/product/celulares/116699802/moto-getrade%3B-dual)
doesn't list AWS 1700 band. Unlike the UK version.
See my OP.
Thanks
Moto G
From what I read in Canada we cannot get the 16gb version, have to find online somewhere.
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
Hello everyone, first post here!
I ordered a moto G from the us store since I have a connection in Washington state to ship it to. On their site they list 1700(aws) but not the 2100 needed for downloading.
I phoned motorola this morning and informed them of my uncertainty. The level 2 technician replied that the american phone will fully support 1700/2100 used by aws. I also informed the technician of my carrier, so it looks like the american gsm model will work with wind.
cheers :good:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the international GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
Do we know if there are hardware differences? I would like to see if we can get a thread going for enabling AWS support on international GSM version. There is an extensive knowledge-base here on XDA when it comes to tinkering with the Galaxy S2 and S3 modems and NV parameters to enable Wind/TMO AWS. I remember at one point there was discussion of whether AWS was even possible on the S3 i747.
Any input would be appreciated!!
maxqas said:
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Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
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Sorry I can't help make this happen but I thought I'd offer my support and would also love to see 1700/2100 bands enabled.
ferossan said:
Chilean version (Movistar) and probably all Latinoamerican except Brazil:
3G HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
2G GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Data 3G HSDPA 21 Mbps - HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Data 2G GPRS - EDGE
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Thanks ferossan, I added your info to OP.
matlabwtf said:
Hello everyone, first post here!
I ordered a moto G from the us store since I have a connection in Washington state to ship it to. On their site they list 1700(aws) but not the 2100 needed for downloading.
I phoned motorola this morning and informed them of my uncertainty. The level 2 technician replied that the american phone will fully support 1700/2100 used by aws. I also informed the technician of my carrier, so it looks like the american gsm model will work with wind.
cheers :good:
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Hi matlabwtf! Welcome to XDA
Thanks for sharing your findings.
From what I've researched so far, 1700 MHz AWS band operates on 1700 up and 2100 down.
There's another AWS band as well, 2100MHz AWS band, it operates on 1900 up and 2100 down. It is used overseas, Asia, Europe, etc.
The carriers (cellphone companies and their employees) confuse people when they tell you need 1700/2100 band phone.
In reality you only need to make sure that the phone has 1700 AWS band, that's all.
Please let us know when your receive your handset, thanks.
maxqas said:
To OP:
Confirmed. Telus/Koodo is indeed selling what looks like the international GSM version.
Model: XT1032
Baseband: MSM8626BP_1032.3051.51.00R
I would love to know how to enable 1700/2100 bands on it!!!
Do we know if there are hardware differences? I would like to see if we can get a thread going for enabling AWS support on international GSM version. There is an extensive knowledge-base here on XDA when it comes to tinkering with the Galaxy S2 and S3 modems and NV parameters to enable Wind/TMO AWS. I remember at one point there was discussion of whether AWS was even possible on the S3 i747.
Any input would be appreciated!!
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Thanks maxqas, I added your info to OP.
same here. I hope we can enable 1700 AWS band on Telus/koodo version!
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Thanks maxqas, I added your info to OP.
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Glad to help! Is there any way to know the model number and baseband for the US GSM (AWS) version?? If it's the same model then I bet it is just a matter of flashing the relevant modem and nvdata parameters.
maxqas said:
Glad to help! Is there any way to know the model number and baseband for the US GSM (AWS) version?? If it's the same model then I bet it is just a matter of flashing the relevant modem and nvdata parameters.
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Hey
I'd have to dig some more to find out if all the models have same radios internally. Supposedly there were 5 models of Moto G approved by the FCC in the US:
XT1032, XT1033, XT1034, XT1035, and XT1036
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UK Version
Just wanted to add that the UK version, despite listing the 1700 UMTS on the UK Motorola site, does not list said band on the box. I checked in store today, and it only had UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100. Appears to be the same as the Global version being sold in the US.
Hi Irfan
If they have a working demo, would you be able to check the settings and look at the model number and baseband? Only if you get an opportunity that is...
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Moto G Model Numbers
XT1032, XT1033, XT1034, XT1035, and XT1036
XT1032 Global GSM
XT1033 Dual SIM Global GSM
XT1034 US GSM (T-Mobile?)
XT1035
XT1036 US GSM (T-Mobile?)
Can't find any info on XT1035...
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XT1031 CDMA version
XT1032 UMTS SS version
XT1033 UMTS DS version
XT1034 AWS version