Hey all -
I have been a Transformer (and modding) fan since my TF101, and I just leapt from a TF201 to the infinity.
I'm not sure quite what I was expecting, but I surely wasn't expecting it to be slower. Responses to screen taps and swipes are very delayed, to the point where it's extremely annoying.
This is all subjective, I realize, but I was wondering if this is a widespread thing or if I should try to RMA it.
I had heard that CROMi-X was the rom to have, so I flashed 4.6.7.
I had also heard that the GPU was an ass-kicker, so I put on my favorite piece of eye-candy (that I've purchased) which is "Asphalt 7: Heat." - and it ran DOG SLOW, and wasn't particularly candy-ish.
Well, maybe that's an exaggeration, but having the 201 and 700 side-by-side (literally, driving one with each hand, and poorly at that) the 700 was choppy and would pause every so often. It took MUCH longer to load, too.
So I was unhappy.
I read about the slow internal I/O and re-flashed with a Data2SD option, formatted the microcard, the whole nine yards, and it didn't really get any better. fsync is turned OFF.
I side-graded to the older CleanROM Inheritance 3.4.7, and it actually seems SLIGHTLY better, but the UI has a tendency to be very laggy.
I'm going to try "AndroWook" next, I had that on my Prime with good success.
I've googled and found plenty, plenty plenty of people who have a problem with the TF700 and its speed, which is really disappointing because it's supposed to be the top of the line.
So.. is anyone out there really HAPPY with their TF700? Is it zippy and satisfying? What ROM are you using?
Maybe I'll try to unload it on craigslist and go back to the TF201. It has lower "Androbench" marks, but is crazy more responsive.
*shrug*
I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts...
R
Just learned about 'lagfix.'
Gonna try that.
Is 4.1.1 better performance? I realize it'd technically be a step backwards...
rprussell said:
Just learned about 'lagfix.'
Gonna try that.
Is 4.1.1 better performance? I realize it'd technically be a step backwards...
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I'm still using 4.1.1. I run Cromi 3.4.6 with Hund's kernel 2.2, along with most of the tweaks found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232715). I am not running data2sd and my CPU/GPU profiles are not as aggressive. Apparently some people have been getting bootloops after applying these tweaks but I've never had it.
I've tried 4.2 several times (with different versions of Cromi-X) but usually come back to 4.1.1 within a day because it seems to run better.
Having said this, I think "lags" can be quite subjective - I personally think my tf700 is zippy but perhaps you wouldn't agree.
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Hey all -
I have been a Transformer (and modding) fan since my TF101, and I just leapt from a TF201 to the infinity.
I'm not sure quite what I was expecting, but I surely wasn't expecting it to be slower. Responses to screen taps and swipes are very delayed, to the point where it's extremely annoying.
This is all subjective, I realize, but I was wondering if this is a widespread thing or if I should try to RMA it.
I had heard that CROMi-X was the rom to have, so I flashed 4.6.7.
I had also heard that the GPU was an ass-kicker, so I put on my favorite piece of eye-candy (that I've purchased) which is "Asphalt 7: Heat." - and it ran DOG SLOW, and wasn't particularly candy-ish.
Well, maybe that's an exaggeration, but having the 201 and 700 side-by-side (literally, driving one with each hand, and poorly at that) the 700 was choppy and would pause every so often. It took MUCH longer to load, too.
So I was unhappy.
I read about the slow internal I/O and re-flashed with a Data2SD option, formatted the microcard, the whole nine yards, and it didn't really get any better. fsync is turned OFF.
I side-graded to the older CleanROM Inheritance 3.4.7, and it actually seems SLIGHTLY better, but the UI has a tendency to be very laggy.
I'm going to try "AndroWook" next, I had that on my Prime with good success.
I've googled and found plenty, plenty plenty of people who have a problem with the TF700 and its speed, which is really disappointing because it's supposed to be the top of the line.
So.. is anyone out there really HAPPY with their TF700? Is it zippy and satisfying? What ROM are you using?
Maybe I'll try to unload it on craigslist and go back to the TF201. It has lower "Androbench" marks, but is crazy more responsive.
*shrug*
I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts...
R
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It is odd. With what you said, your TF700 should be very smooth unless there is a hardware problem Did you try a clean install? BTW, if you reinstall again, I would recommend that you should use Cromi X V4.6.5 instead of 4.6.7.
For some reason when I used the Advanced Wipe and wiped everything in TWRP. I still found some old files on my internal SD. However, when I used a formatted option, everything was gone and clean. Maybe you should do that. Also if you use Data2Ram, you should reformat your MicroSD as the same time with your clean install. A combination of Fsync Off, D2R, and Cromi X should work very well. My kernel is Hund's V3.0.6 with OC of 1.4G CPU, 520M GPU for Power Saving, 1.6G CPU, 600M GPU for Normal, and 1.8G CPU, 650M GPU for my Performance with UV about 35mV. My quandrant scores are 5800 for Power Saving = Game Mode, 6400 for Normal = Normal Activities, and 7000s for Performance = Browsing and streaming movies. Please report back if you decide to do a clean install, thanks and good lucks.
Here are my settings and quadrant scores using Hund 2.2:
Power Saving - GPU 650Mhz, CPU 1.45/1.4Ghz - Quadrant 5331
Balanced - GPU 700Mhz, CPU 1.65/1.6Ghz - Quadrant 6336
Performance - GPu 775Mhz, CPU 1.85/1.8 Ghz - Quadrant 7005
Personally I take the quadrant scores with a grain of salt because I've had setups where the scores were better but the tablet was not as responsive. I mostly run on Power Saving mode without any problems.
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Did you try a clean install? BTW, if you reinstall again, I would recommend that you should use Cromi X V4.6.5 instead of 4.6.7.
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Several totally clean installs at this point.
AndroWook was bust, it didn't even get past the "ASUS" logo.
I'm back to Cromi 3.4.7 with _that's kernel 3.1.10. A lot of folks are mentioning Hund 2.2, perhaps I'll try overlaying that now.
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Having said this, I think "lags" can be quite subjective - I personally think my tf700 is zippy but perhaps you wouldn't agree.
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I totally agree. I added a bunch of the PimpMyRom tweaks and rebooted. I'm letting it settle down and then going to see what's what.
I can't get the GPU overclock to take, though. I think I've mounted the FS r/w and I'm editing the GPU cap files to contain 1460 as directed, but the next time I open the file it's back to 1300. Weird.
So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
Erugh?
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So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
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Strange. I get 5200 in balanced mode without any special tweaks, and over 6000 in performance mode with fsync off.
The general user experience is acceptable, but not exceptionally smooth - lost frames in animations are common, but there are no long waiting times anywhere.
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Strange. I get 5200 in balanced mode without any special tweaks, and over 6000 in performance mode with fsync off.
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Did I mention I also have fsync off?
('Coz I do.)
Maybe it's faulty, which would make me sad because I doubt I can return it what with unlocking and flashing the crapola out of it. Hm hm.
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I can't get the GPU overclock to take, though. I think I've mounted the FS r/w and I'm editing the GPU cap files to contain 1460 as directed, but the next time I open the file it's back to 1300. Weird.
So, my Quadrant score after all the tweaks were put in, on "Balanced," is 5266. On "Performance," it's 5139.
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That is really odd. Unfortunately my knowledge of tweaking is entirely based on following other people's instructions so I don't know why the GPU changes are not taking. Are your CPU changes taking? Did you follow the instructions on init.d scripts/enabling his voltage table and governor tweaks?
Here's are my cpu.sh files. I switched the profile for powering saving mode and balanced mode because the tablet always defaults to balanced mode.
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Also, when I made the profile too aggressive (too high on CPU or GPU), the tablet got way hot and my quadrant score dropped. Since our tablets are all different on the amount of overclocking they can handle, maybe you're pushing your tablet too much. Have you tried easing down on overclocking?
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Here are my settings and quadrant scores using Hund 2.2:
Power Saving - GPU 650Mhz, CPU 1.45/1.4Ghz - Quadrant 5331
Balanced - GPU 700Mhz, CPU 1.65/1.6Ghz - Quadrant 6336
Performance - GPu 775Mhz, CPU 1.85/1.8 Ghz - Quadrant 7005
Personally I take the quadrant scores with a grain of salt because I've had setups where the scores were better but the tablet was not as responsive. I mostly run on Power Saving mode without any problems.
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LOL I totally agreed with on that. :laugh: However, I still think that it is better with some numbers as references others than words lags, smooth, choppy, slow, fast, and so on. :good: It is just my way of explanations.
This might be my final entry - after doing the PMR tweaks, and flashing Hund 2.2 (no offense, _that ) the Quadrant score in Performance mode is ... uh.. well, indeterminate because suddenly I can't attach to our wifi. Sigh. Perhaps I overtweaked.
Although, Asphalt ran VERY smoothly. I credit the GPU overclock, in combination with assigning all the 2D stuff to the GPU.
Yeah, definitely. After flashing hund 2.2, it won't acquire an IP address.
Today is surely an interesting day.
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This might be my final entry - after doing the PMR tweaks, and flashing Hund 2.2 (no offense, _that ) the Quadrant score in Performance mode is ... uh.. well, indeterminate because suddenly I can't attach to our wifi. Sigh. Perhaps I overtweaked.
Although, Asphalt ran VERY smoothly. I credit the GPU overclock, in combination with assigning all the 2D stuff to the GPU.
Yeah, definitely. After flashing hund 2.2, it won't acquire an IP address.
Today is surely an interesting day.
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You probably have problems because of PMR tweaks I remember I also had wifi issues after PMR and I think I didn't enable all the tweaks in the guide. Try PMR recovery where it restores all your previous settings-it should restore your wifi. If not, then maybe a clean install of Cromi and then doing the init.d/Hund/CPU/GPU tweaks should give you quite a bit of performance boost.
Hope by "final entry" you don't mean you're giving up!
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You probably have problems because of PMR tweaks I remember I also had wifi issues after PMR and I think I didn't enable all the tweaks in the guide. Try PMR recovery where it restores all your previous settings-it should restore your wifi. If not, then maybe a clean install of Cromi and then doing the init.d/Hund/CPU/GPU tweaks should give you quite a bit of performance boost.
Hope by "final entry" you don't mean you're giving up!
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Yeah, it seems as if the "Fast DNS" internet tweak means it has somehow thrown off DHCP.
I'm connected to the wifi AP, but I get no IP address, etc.
I guess I'll flash the recovery thing. Darn, everything but that was working great
No, I had meant to say 'final entry' insofar as I was finally happy with it - but while i was typing it, I wanted to put in the Quadrant score, and then I realize I couldn't connect to the website, and then I realized I had no IP, and here we are.
So that post sort of morphed as I was typing...
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I guess I'll flash the recovery thing. Darn, everything but that was working great
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Huh.
Wont' flash, at least not with twrp 2.4.4.0
Growf.
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Huh.
Wont' flash, at least not with twrp 2.4.4.0
Growf.
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Which is just as well, since when I rebooted I had an IP again.
Recovery image went south too, and I had to re-flash that via adb.
There is truly some weird stuff happening here.
Anyway, the quadrant score - now on "Performance" because I swapped cpu2 and cpu3, what a great idea - is...
IS.....
IS.....
5057.
Ah, the hell with it.
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Which is just as well, since when I rebooted I had an IP again.
Recovery image went south too, and I had to re-flash that via adb.
There is truly some weird stuff happening here.
Anyway, the quadrant score - now on "Performance" because I swapped cpu2 and cpu3, what a great idea - is...
IS.....
IS.....
5057.
Ah, the hell with it.
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Wow, that is just odd. Does the tablet get really hot when you run quadrant? It might be that the GPU/CPU settings are too high. Hope actual performance is still working out for you.
And as for recovery, I meant running the rescue package inside PMR that "un-pimps" the rom. Thinking back on when I installed the tweaks, I think I did everything mentioned in PMR except for Network & Internet mods. And I love the xloud mod!
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Wow, that is just odd. Does the tablet get really hot when you run quadrant? It might be that the GPU/CPU settings are too high. Hope actual performance is still working out for you.
And as for recovery, I meant running the rescue package inside PMR that "un-pimps" the rom. Thinking back on when I installed the tweaks, I think I did everything mentioned in PMR except for Network & Internet mods. And I love the xloud mod!
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It was pretty warm, yeah. I knocked the cpu back from 1900mhz to 1800mhz - which doesn't seem to matter since according to the little floating CPU monitor I have ("Cool Tool") it's never going over 1600mhz anyway.
I mean, I've got PMR trying to control stuff on one hand, the built-in "Power Saving/Balanced/performance" thing on the other, and also "Trickster Mod"
Idunno.
It does seem perkier after all this, so maybe it doesn't matter.
I wish Quadrant would let me see my score without hitting the internet though. I backed off the voltages by 0.025v per speed, and came up with 5499 this time. Although I don't know whether that's "performance" or what.
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It was pretty warm, yeah. I knocked the cpu back from 1900mhz to 1800mhz - which doesn't seem to matter since according to the little floating CPU monitor I have ("Cool Tool") it's never going over 1600mhz anyway.
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Did you use Hundsbuah's app to set whatever parameters need to be set?
Sorry for not being more specific, I have no experience with it, I just know Hundsbuah didn't only add awesome overclocking features into his kernel, but he also wrote an app to control it.
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I mean, I've got PMR trying to control stuff on one hand, the built-in "Power Saving/Balanced/performance" thing on the other, and also "Trickster Mod"
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And this is in addition to changing cpu#.ch files? I wonder if you've got too many cooks in the kitchen.
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It does seem perkier after all this, so maybe it doesn't matter.
I wish Quadrant would let me see my score without hitting the internet though. I backed off the voltages by 0.025v per speed, and came up with 5499 this time. Although I don't know whether that's "performance" or what.
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Is Asphalt still running better than before? I think the most important thing is that the applications you use are running smoothly and not upsetting you that (1) you spent $$$ on the tablet, (2) you spent a lot of time tweaking the tablet, and (3) you're not getting the performance you want.
I once spent a few hours tweaking CPU/GPU to figure out how I can maximize Quadrant score and what I came away from it is that high score doesn't matter if the tablet is getting way to hot for comfort and that low score doesn't matter if the tablet is running to my satisfaction. I almost never change my power setting and that means my score is probably around 5300, but I still like how the tablet responds.
Anyways, hope your tablet's running better than before and good luck with any additional tweaking! :victory:
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Did you use Hundsbuah's app to set whatever parameters need to be set?
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Well.. that's just madness.
No, I was not. I had these other tools and was messing with those.
Might be time to re-flash the kernel again.
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For the people that want overclocking, here is your chance. I took my standard voodoo kernel, and put in the stuff needed to overclock it. Thanks to nemesis2all and his OTB kernel from the Fascinate for the code needed to get this to work. Also, use extreme caution when using the higher clock speeds. The stock "max" voltage for the CPU is 1300mv, and 1500MHz and 1600MHz are both at 1500mv, so it's heavily over-volted at the top end. By default, the system will boot to 1000MHz and you need to set the speeds you want in Voltage Control App. I don't personally use this because I think overclocking is useless, so any bug reports need as much information as possible, or they will be dismissed and not looked into at all. If you run into an issue with the system locking up, odds are that you have undervolted to much for a given clock speed. Other than that, you're on your own. Same FAQ applies as the regular PBJ kernel, so look there until I get a chance to post it here as well.
Installation Instructions:
1. Download zip
2. Transfer to SDCard
3. Reboot into recovery, you'll need to have CWM if you don't already
4. Install zip from SDCard and select the zip you downloaded.
5. Reboot and enjoy
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Make logcat an option that can be turned on/off
-From root shell, run "logcat-enable" to turn logcat on, "logcat-disable" to turn it off
Make /preinstall partition swap space
Fix problem with rooting phone on boot
Fix fix_permissions in recovery
Update to recovery
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Fix mount USB Storage in recovery
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Updated CWM binary
Custom boot animation support
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Voodoo Sound V10
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Overclocking - Use Voltage Control App to adjust clocks and voltages
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Voodoo Sound fixed - Thanks supercurio
Removed OnDemand
Added FIFO and BFQ IO Schedulers
Added tun.ko and cifs.ko
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Initial release, built from source
Undervolted
Voodoo lagfix available - Thanks supercurio
Updated compiler flags
Linaro Toolchain for cross-compiling
Battery hack to allow for non-OEM Batteries - courtesy of SirGatez
init.d support
SDCard speed tweak (via init.d script)
Upstream EXT4 Patches
VFAT Patch
TCP and CFS Tweaks to help data/performance
V(R) IO Scheduler
Auto-root on boot
Maybe missing some other stuff, check Github for full changes
TODO (somewhat in order of importance):
Smooth out boot animation
NOTES:
If you are experiencing problems, I need detailed info to be able to fix it or help you out. Failure to provide detailed info will mean I'm just going to ignore your problem as user error. Details would be something such as which kernel you are flashing (filename) and steps to reproduce the issue. Also, if you used any other kernels that had the same problem or didn't have the problem.
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By downloading and using the kernels, this signifies that you have read this full post and the FAQ before reporting an issue. You also take all responsibility if your phone breaks or your warranty becomes void (which, if you're flashing this, it already is). I offer no guarantees as to anything working, though I try not to release broken stuff, it happens sometimes.
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2k+ on quadrant @ 1.4ghz... Niiiiice
Thanks imnuts
Undervolted and running ok so far.
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Could you cuties advise on what sort of settings you're using for this?
I'm using the 'vr' setting with an Interactive governor at 1.1GHz and my phone is slowing to a crawl so it's hardly usable. I'm not looking for any crazy overclocking just something to keep my phone snappy whilst I keep in touch with my prostitutes and be sure they are working the proper street corners.
The weird thing is I'm not sure if Voodoo Lagfix is enabled. Voodoo control says yes, CWM says no and won't let me enable it that way, is there a way to be sure?
Spanks!
ZeppelinJ0 said:
The weird thing is I'm not sure if Voodoo Lagfix is enabled. Voodoo control says yes, CWM says no and won't let me enable it that way, is there a way to be sure?
Spanks!
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Go into a Terminal Emulator on the device and type Mount. 3rd or 4th row on the list should show ext4. If it does then lagfix is enabled. If you do not see Ext4 and it says rfs still then it is not enabled.
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Go into a Terminal Emulator on the device and type Mount. 3rd or 4th row on the list should show ext4. If it does then lagfix is enabled. If you do not see Ext4 and it says rfs still then it is not enabled.
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Well it's definitely enabled. I just must have set the CPU settings poorly because this thing is crawling right now, I can't even scroll through the app drawer!
I've been trying to CWM back to the other PBJ kernels however my phone hangs on reboot, I'm guessing because those need to be flashed with Odin.
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2k+ on quadrant @ 1.4ghz... Niiiiice
Thanks imnuts
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I wish I knew what I was doing wrong.. running at 1.4 and my quadrant scores are exactly the same.... not that it really matters but still...
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. I don't personally use this because I think overclocking is useless.
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Just curious as to why you think it's useless. I am sure you know some thing that I don't so your opinion matters to me. I love the fact that I can overclock, but if it's not needed then I might not bother. I know it did make a difference for my DX.
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Just curious as to why you think it's useless. I am sure you know some thing that I don't so your opinion matters to me. I love the fact that I can overclock, but if it's not needed then I might not bother. I know it did make a difference for my DX.
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Use a program like CPUSpy that shows you the clock speed stats of your phone. >75% of the time, it will likely be in 400MHz or less, this probably approaches >90% if you say 800MHz or less, especially if you are not a heavy user. At that point, why overclock your phone? To get the overclocking stable, you need increase voltages across the board, and despite undervolting, you'll never get the same power usage as you can with a non-overclocked kernel as some of the voltage changes you can't revert. My opinion is that while overclocking can smooth some stuff out, for most day-to-day usage, it has no practical benefits and only causes more battery drain than you would otherwise have. Given how precious battery life is these days, why knowing make your battery drain faster?
it's funny you say that becuase i noticed with ludeboy's kernel that when overclocking system panel very rarely showed my phone running over the stock speed. Usually it was as you stated some where around 800mhz..I understand what your saying...Thanks for the quick response.
So what if we run stock clock...but undervolt? Do you think we will see any batt savings?
Backup SD and app data b/c crashing/freezing can corrupt files.
Edit: Also keep Voltage Scheduler Remover on your phone just in case.
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So what if we run stock clock...but undervolt? Do you think we will see any batt savings?
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Potentially, yes, but you may lose stability.
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I love it. I can deal with a slightly shortened battery life. I wanted to OC because a lot of the more intense games don't run as smooth as I would like. With OC, its all butter. Thanks!! I have mine set at 1400, and it really didn't improve my quadrant scores, but there's a noticeable decrease in lag going from one app to another.
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So what if we run stock clock...but undervolt? Do you think we will see any batt savings?
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You would see better battery life at stock clock speeds if you just used the standard (ie. not overclocked) kernel I built.
Just wondering if you're going to branch off development of PBJT w/o overclocking separately - or if this is going to be built/rolled into future releases?
I'm on board with not thinking it's necessary - though I can see how the tinkerers and speed demons would love it. (And all the more power to them, literally)
I don't know imnuts, I always noticed when I forced the phone into a higher overclock it always seemed quite a bit snapier.
Keep it on conservative. Interactive is buggy.
ZeppelinJ0 said:
Could you cuties advise on what sort of settings you're using for this?
I'm using the 'vr' setting with an Interactive governor at 1.1GHz and my phone is slowing to a crawl so it's hardly usable. I'm not looking for any crazy overclocking just something to keep my phone snappy whilst I keep in touch with my prostitutes and be sure they are working the proper street corners.
The weird thing is I'm not sure if Voodoo Lagfix is enabled. Voodoo control says yes, CWM says no and won't let me enable it that way, is there a way to be sure?
Spanks!
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Just wondering if you're going to branch off development of PBJT w/o overclocking separately - or if this is going to be built/rolled into future releases?
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This will remain separate from the standard kernel most likely. I will see if I can build off of this source without overclocking and have it work, though I don't know if it will. I want to keep them separate for stability and battery life reasons.
Just a quick question for you guys: I recently purchased an Infuse from the marketplace here, and so far I've gotten an absolute TON of lag using the device. I've flashed Infused 1.5 and Bionix with the Infusion kernel, and so far the lag has gotten better, but it's not totally cleared up. I'm definitely not new to Android, but I haven't seen anything like this before. I know that Quadrant isn't a reliable benchmark, but I'm scoring about 1900, OCed to 1.5Ghz.
Just to give an example: I'm using desktop visualizer to add some custom icons to my screen. When I go to select an icon image, it's fine, but it freezes for about 90 seconds when a list of my apps comes up.
Anyone experience this before? And if so, how did you solve it? If this was widespread, I'd imagine there would be complaints all over here.
Which app are you using to set your overclock settings, how many clock speeds do you have enabled, are you under or over volting, and *which governor* are you running?
I have seen some similar problems here when I was using conservative governor with poor choices of clock speed. Right now Infusion 1.5.2 kernel has some issues with not liking the ondemand governor, so I reduced my number of available clock speeds so it would jump to the top more quickly while using the conservative governor.
Also, did you use either the return to stock, or the ultimate unbrick flash before you flashed your ROM? If it was a used Infuse, I would do one of the above before I start looking anywhere else, then reflash your rom/kernel of choice.
I'm using SetCPU with the OnDemand gov (400/1500), no undervolting. I have a profile set to underclock it to 300/700 on conservative when I'm charging, but that's about it.
I think I'm going to use GTG's unbrick/return to stock and root the thing myself, I figured I'd ask before I did anything drastic. My UI is a ***** to set up every time, and I hate wiping because of it.
Just a quick note, I've had some serious lag using the oc kernel... Like real world usage got worse after oc'ing
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Although it is counter intuitive to the way governors should work I have seen less lag on Infusion 1.5.2 when I use conservative. The ondemand governor seems to be having some issues with the most recent update. If you flash back to 1.0 Infusion you get a max overclock of 1.4, but it is much more stable IMHO. Also FFC is presently broken in 1.5.2 and will hard freeze the phone (battery pull).
I'm debating flashing back to community kernel, but I am going to wait and see how long it takes my battery to drain because I am using some undervolting. You might try using conservative governor and only enable 100, 400, (800 or 1000), (1200 or 1300) and 1500. Honestly the infuse is my first smartphone, but I've tinkered with desktop hardware the last 15 years. It literally amazes me everytime I pull the battery out of this phone and feel how light it is.
I also used the desktop vis app and yes it lagged when chosing apps however it seemed to get better after three or four times but that seems to be the only place it lags for me im using the oc-uv kernal 1.0 clocked to 1.4 seems bulletproof compared to later versions im getting great speed and batt life with this kernal but i had the same lag in the same event as you
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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I'm going to try bringing it back to stock and re-rooting it myself, if only because I trust myself with adb//scripts/rooting, and I'm hesitant to trust someone I don't know. Lag has gotten a lot better since switching to conservative, OCing to 1.6 and undervolting a tad, but it still lags when opening apps or scrolling through long lists. Desktop Vis is of course, still a nightmare.
Oh well, I'll report my findings tomorrow I guess. Hopefully I'll be scoring higher than the 1700 I just pulled in quadrant.
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Do you use spareparts?
usually yes, but I dont believe I installed it yet on the infuse. Why?
lag on stock also
I'm 100% stock & get lag also. Definitely in the situation you describe, when the app list comes up for adding shortcuts to any homescreen. Takes forever for that list to come up. Secondly, simply from running for a while, i have to kill all the apps using the built in task manager in order to get it to run smoothly again. It's like it never closes an app. I'm new to android, but guessing this is a problem inherit to android. Can't see how samsung or at&t could have screwed this soo badly to cause it to never close an app. Hoping memory management is better in Gingerbread.
Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
yeah, the longer I have the phone the more it lags it seems
probably going to push me towards the Evo3D
If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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If you're on stock and after a week or two your phone gets slow as hell (mine did), install a Voodoo lagfix kernel. All the current ROMs include it.
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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Blario, you're new to Android, so you need to read up on how memory management works with Android. It's not SUPPOSED to kill apps, and that's not what's lagging your phone. In your case, I'd think it was more of a case of WHICH apps you were running.
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I don't do much. Twitter, "Web" (some mozilla stock ish), SMS, phone, Android Market app (browsing), and Maps. I've had it lag up using only those. Far less often, I use Yelp... that's about it.
Not supposed to kill apps? When I kill them it fixes the problem. Maybe it *should* be killing apps?? If its supposed to flush their state to disk... it seems to be doing a poor job at it.
I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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I did
I still have random slow downs when it gets bogged down with stuff
I'd give a left nut to have this phone with dual core
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I'd more readily assume the 512MB RAM is the issue. Looking forward to SGSII
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I would be suspicious of your microSD card (if you have one). Do you know what class it is? Have you tried removing it and performing the same functions in which you see lag?
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It's the stock card that came with the phone. Any way to check? The apps are installed to it... so removing it I wouldn't have the apps available anymore.
A little update: I returned back to stock and re-rooted. I installed 3E, then CWM, then threw on Infused 1.5 and Infusion, OCed to 1.6Ghz and slightly undervolted (about 25-100mv along the range) using SetCPU.
As of right now, it still lags on occasion, but not as bad as it did. Quadrant is giving me a whopping 1300 average score, with a low of 800 and a high of 1600. This is just pathetic.
Hello,
I just installed the ressurection remix 1.5 rom, in combination with Thoravukk kernel, and i set my cpu to 1.6 ghz.
Set it at boot, and rebooted the device.
I'm really impressed about the boot speed, and overall smooth scrolling etcetera.
My question is, is there something else i need to do to keep it stable, or change other settings, like voltage, gpu, ram or anything else?
Because i'm really happy with the changes it's given me, but i don't want problems in a while.
Batterylife is not an issue, i don't expect it to last as long as it did on 1.2 ghz
Looking forward to information.
If i don't need to do anything else, i would like to know as well.
Thank you
Lost in space xD
Can any one help me with some info on where can I download the Thoravukk kernel. I've entered around 3 or 4 (including the official team blockbuster) sites and I don't see any download links
Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Why do you have it overclocked to 1.6? is there even a difference in performance? The phone's so powerful already lol, you could UV for better battery life, increase gpu for performance (in games) I don't think you need more Ram, I have the OG epic 4g and I have plenty lol
As far as stable, pushing your processor may create problems that you won't necessarily see at stock frequency, you get what ask for.
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Exactly what I had in mind
The Note is plenty powerful even amongst the current crop of droids. And no app requires a dual-core 1.6Gghz. The stock frequencies were chosen for a reason, I'm guessing it's quality. All chips burn out in time, they have a lifespan. But you overclock your device and you burn your chip faster.
So what I'm saying is stay with the original frequencies. Port an optimized ROM and that should suffice.
Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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Thanks for your answers, but i really notice the differenct, especially with a reboot, it normally takes 30-40 seconds, and now in less then 10 secs i'm at my home screen, and ready to go.
Also it is smoother with scrolling, and apps launch even faster.
so the diff is hugh to me.
Battery life is not an issue, i said, even if it goes to crap, i replace it for €20,- (Just about $25,-)
And the performance is nice, but my question was if i have to set other things.
And i use lulzactiv governor, it uses only what it needs, it's not always the full 1.6 ghz. Only when speed is preferred.
@Kenepo112x40 this is where i found it, i use it now, so it works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574672
Edit: There's a zip in attachment, that's the one, install in cwm recovery
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I had to go and look for the 2.30 on another post cuz the 2.41 doesn't allows me to have data on the phone. Thanks anyway man, the problem was that they hadn't uploaded the link yet on the official site but they did yesterday.
To OP, I suggest u increase voltage at over locked 1.6 to keep it stable
Okay so, my tf700 is running CleanRom 2.5.5 Inheritance with the over clocked kernal
and i keep getting scores around 6000 and under
while in performance mode
am i doing something wrong
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Okay so, my tf700 is running CleanRom 2.5.5 Inheritance with the over clocked kernal
and i keep getting scores around 6000 and under
while in performance mode
am i doing something wrong
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Do you have gpu 2D rendering turned on?
Found under settings/developer options...
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Do you have gpu 2D rendering turned on?
Found under settings/developer options...
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i enabled it and disabled it
score went up to 6200
now dropped back to 5600
Any other ideas?
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Any other ideas?
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No idea. Have you tried taking a TBU and (maybe even clean) install 2.6 and 2.6.1 (patch over 2.6)?
PS: what mods did you choose? And how much did you manage to get when in Performance Mode?
Low score... it used to be pretty damn high for the TF700T... times change, I guess
Don't let the benchmarks bother you, tbh.
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Where do you want to be with benchmarks?
Are you wanting high numbers or are you good with smooth stable UE?
its well documented, quadrant can be fooled, you can have a custom rom thats built specifically for quadrant and it will bench much higher than other roms but in real use its much slower. Go for smooth and stable. Basically, just use your tablet and if you like where its at dont complain, quadrant is just a number, theres no FEELING behind it. Higher number does not always mean better experience.
6200 with force GPU rendering on is great! How does it feel to use?
Thanks for the responses guys
I was thinking if i wipe it completely and do a clean install it would be better, sounds like a good idea anyway
i was comparing my scores to what everyone else was saying and what it showed in the thread for that rom
i always ran quadrant in performance mode and made sure i had more than 400mb free of ram
i stayed with some default setting on the DPI and launcher, but i chose clemsyns kernal with the GPU at 700
and i left fsync enabled
Some people said it hit 7000
if it doesn't matter i wont worry about it
but i will say my tablet is much quicker then before, i have a few hiccups that i believe are caused by some apps
is it possible that apps in the background can cause the low scores?
Hi everybody!
I am in a situation described somewhat by the title. My tf700 is so freakin' tweaked that the last thing I can do is grab a class 10 microSD card and do the I/O fix (not done yet). I am on CROMI 3.3 (rooted, unlocked, but this is obvious ), OC kernel by _that with the ROW addon, which came just after Clemsyns kernel, so the performance mode is even more kick-ass, as it stayed after kernel flash. Fsync disabled, lag fix applied. Yeah, pretty much everything except I/O fix. The problem is my top bemchmark result is about 6700, while I expect ~7150 (well, some users with same specs as mine get ~7150). Done right after a coldboot, with all the useless apps killed, forced GPU. I don't really care abot the result, but it seems like there is some performance potential missing, yet to be used... Would be really nice if someone would be able to point out the reason of this.
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post a screenshot as an attachment so some good samaritan can see the cpu / io / memory / 2d /3d figures... and which one is low...
wnerw said:
Hi everybody!
I am in a situation described somewhat by the title. My tf700 is so freakin' tweaked that the last thing I can do is grab a class 10 microSD card and do the I/O fix (not done yet). I am on CROMI 3.3 (rooted, unlocked, but this is obvious ), OC kernel by _that with the ROW addon, which came just after Clemsyns kernel, so the performance mode is even more kick-ass, as it stayed after kernel flash. Fsync disabled, lag fix applied. Yeah, pretty much everything except I/O fix. The problem is my top bemchmark result is about 6700, while I expect ~7150 (well, some users with same specs as mine get ~7150). Done right after a coldboot, with all the useless apps killed, forced GPU. I don't really care abot the result, but it seems like there is some performance potential missing, yet to be used... Would be really nice if someone would be able to point out the reason of this.
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Seems like you're not hitting 1800 OC, can you download "cpu spy" and see if you actually hit 1800 in performance mode? and make sure you set your governor to "interactive".
Yeah, haha, I can't post pictures in this forum, cause XDA Premium app says so. Neither can I post URLs as I am still below 10 posts. Anyway, I'm using interactive governor. According to cpu spy my tf700 uses every frequency with no problem.
My latest benchmark results (I updated bootloader today):
Overall - 6909
CPU - 16475
Mem - 4273
I/O - 10648
2D - 833
3D - 2318
CPU result seems quite high, ain't it? I think that 2D is the problem, though I haven't compared it yet...
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6400+ is great performance. Quadrant is not a very good consistent bench marker. You can run it 10 times and get scores wildly varying by 500 points. I couldn't get over 7000 for 2 days. Thought something was up and then suddenly with no changes 7200.
Don't worry about it. Does the ROM feel quick?
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6400+ is great performance. Quadrant is not a very good consistent bench marker. You can run it 10 times and get scores wildly varying by 500 points. I couldn't get over 7000 for 2 days. Thought something was up and then suddenly with no changes 7200.
Don't worry about it. Does the ROM feel quick?
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Good a true words ^^^
I get low scores with Quadrant, yet I don't believe them because 3.3 CROMi is very smooth and shows no indications of stutter.
Been said a billion times "it's all all about user experience."