Today: stock vs custom? - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone, I'm a newcomer to the note 10.1 and so far it has been great!
However owning a nexus S has made me quite the flashaholic.
So I decided to root my note, of course, but I am still debating on whether custom roms/kernels are worth it. I've looked around and many threads state that stock rom is the most stable, however they go back to 2012.
So my question is : Is it better to keep stock nowadays or is it worth it to go custom ( to get functionalities like multi - tasking for all apps , potential for better performance and battery life, etc... )? What do you think?
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I've been wondering the same thing. I'm quite happy with stock so far (quite a departure from my Asus stock ROM, which were useless), and would definitely stick with tw-based ROMs.
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bsaman said:
I've been wondering the same thing. I'm quite happy with stock so far (quite a departure from my Asus stock ROM, which were useless), and would definitely stick with tw-based ROMs.
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yes I think it's best to stick with tW-based roms too . So decided to give it a go anyways. I'm trying Android Revolution and so far, so good!
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frenchie007 said:
yes I think it's best to stick with tW-based roms too . So decided to give it a go anyways. I'm trying Android Revolutionand and so far, so good!
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Ha, I'm tempted by the Hyperdrive ROM myself.

Using gloryrom with no problems

I tried Revolution and it was alright. Omega was really good but not updated frequently enough for me. I love Hyperdrive paired with his Zeus kernel and am just hoping it continues to get regular updates.
While stock is certainly the most stable, I always like to "clean house" every so often and try a new ROM. The bloat of the stock really is unbelievable and it's amazing how much speed can be squeezed out when scrapping all the parts that I don't really need. I also like that it forces me to look at alternatives that are often better than the stock Samsung applications. Ie, for serious note taking I tend to use lecture notes while I'll default to Quill for anything quick that I want synced automatically between devices ala S-Note style. It also means that I'm not tied to trying to install S-Note on any future devices that are not Samsung.
Still, it's really personal preference and how much time and energy you want to put into it. The developers out there really have put a lot of time and attention into the custom ROMs and regardless of my own preference, they should all be applauded for their hard work.
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frenchie007 said:
Hi everyone, I'm a newcomer to the note 10.1 and so far it has been great!
However owning a nexus S has made me quite the flashaholic.
So I decided to root my note, of course, but I am still debating on whether custom roms/kernels are worth it. I've looked around and many threads state that stock rom is the most stable, however they go back to 2012.
So my question is : Is it better to keep stock nowadays or is it worth it to go custom ( to get functionalities like multi - tasking for all apps , potential for better performance and battery life, etc... )? What do you think?
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I think if you have a Nandroid backup you can try custom roms .
But not a great difference from stock .
jje

In my opinion sticking to stock ROM or any custom one depending on the stock is much better to have the multi window functionality and better Spen integration for gestures and so .... and for having multi window on stock ROM for all apps U just have to root and install multiwindow from the app store

Personally I stick with stock rooted. This is one device where the stock rom really doesn't need to be improved.
Cosmetic theming can be achieved through a third party launcher without sacrificing function....
Of course there's always those who try to improve , but that's because this is a developement forum....

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[Q] Best rom for efficiency?

Just got my mom this phone and i got the rooting bug, lol.
She's basically just using it for web browsing, text messaging, and taking pics.
What's the best rom out there for efficiency? I want to take off all the sprint bloat & get some better battery life.
Would also like a rom i can add themes to.
You may consider the combo in my signature.
Works well on me.
Very stable with no reboots.
It has the 4G version as well unless I'm mistaken.
My usage is similar to your mom, though.
No gaming at all.
As for theming, I don't know if this ROM can be themed or not as I just like the way it is.
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i dont see whats in ur sig
anyone else?
glennkaonang said:
You may consider the combo in my signature.
Works well on me.
Very stable with no reboots.
It has the 4G version as well unless I'm mistaken.
My usage is similar to your mom, though.
No gaming at all.
As for theming, I don't know if this ROM can be themed or not as I just like the way it is.
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mrmondaynight said:
i dont see whats in ur sig
anyone else?
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the combo might be in the sig.. but theres no sig there
mrmondaynight said:
Just got my mom this phone and i got the rooting bug, lol.
She's basically just using it for web browsing, text messaging, and taking pics.
What's the best rom out there for efficiency? I want to take off all the sprint bloat & get some better battery life.
Would also like a rom i can add themes to.
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Slim ICS has what ur looking for...
Good luck
Vs Nexus S 4G
Probably want to keep it stock and simple, if you are going to root and theme it it'll make it more frustrating. In fact, setting up for other people, I'll enable root for certain apps and then set it automatically deny.
I have the perfect combination for you:
Kang CM7: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/gigglebread/?id=crespo
Google Apps: http://goo-inside.me/gapps
Stock Launcher: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11421338&postcount=3
CM7 themes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonny.theme.icsgingerbread
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.david1171.minimalbread
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.achep.theme.sense
CM9 Nightly 20120310 is the best until now from ICS roms
Can we update this?
After so long, i was finally able to root. Well, not able..but i got lazy and didn't bother with it.
This one is super basic and I think the best for the Nexus S. Fast, stable, and great battery life, 1%/h during night with wifi on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
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Update it to JB4.2.1 and that should do. If not, try AOKP for 4.1 I used it for months and it was quite good.
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seibott said:
Update it to JB4.2.1 and that should do. If not, try AOKP for 4.1 I used it for months and it was quite good.
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He wants a stable rom for his mom. Not the unstable rom causing battery drain.
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Stock gingerbread
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[Q] Lightweight ROM for Infuse

Hi everyone, I was just wondering what you all recommend for a lightweight ROM for the infuse, id like it to be stable as possible and no bloatware. Basically a ROM with nothing but the basics and lets you get the job done.
Thanks in advance!
Also, if there is not really a match for this or others would like this I would love to get one up myself. If someone could point me towards the basics of creating a ROM it would be greatly appreciated.
I've only tried Legend 3 ICS, Mind of Mac, and Ethereal 1.2/1.3, and while they're all great in their individual ways, i've found Ethereal to be the smoothest with a slight speed advantage over the others. It seems to be the most basic with not a lot, but just enough theming to set it apart from stock. It's the ROM i'm sticking with for now. I'm sure others will have some suggestions too..
I've been using stock gb with bloatware removed for about two months now. Works great and is pleasantly smooth. Used Holocaust launcher for the ICS look w/o the battery drain, bugs, etc.
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kgbeezr1 said:
I've only tried Legend 3 ICS, Mind of Mac, and Ethereal 1.2/1.3, and while they're all great in their individual ways, i've found Ethereal to be the smoothest with a slight speed advantage over the others. It seems to be the most basic with not a lot, but just enough theming to set it apart from stock. It's the ROM i'm sticking with for now. I'm sure others will have some suggestions too..
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Those are all good options for stable, close to stock, and debloated. I'd add Vagabond 3.5 and 4.0 to the list too.
You can also grab dman's UCLB3 rooted, deodexed package and do your own debloating either by removing apps from the zip in /system/app or using TiBu to do the same once installed... that will get you very close to stock, stable, debloated, and rooted...
And...there are plenty of other roms that have more customizations, are still stable, and provide a different look and feel to using your Infuse. I recommend finding the stable rom you like, then using the infuse toolkit to make a full rom backup and a config backup. After that you can survey the Infuse Super Everything Thread (ISET) for links to other roms. (Links to toolkit and ISET are in my sig).
cm7
or cm9?
I just started using slim ics,its small like 80mb
Ethereal for me, I haven't tried a lot of ROMs though. I tried MIUI few months ago, the version I tried was very fast, but buggy. No Bluetooth, no HDMI etc.
Recently, I tried Ethereal, most recent version with HOLO Launcher and I must say my Infuse has been brought back to life. I might keep it for another year until a stable Jelly Bean Android device comes out. I wish they make a Nexus with expandable memory and a +5 inch screen; until then, Infuse on Ethereal will be my daily driver
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I also use SlimICS and love it! Fasssssst and surprisingly stable!
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boodie said:
I also use SlimICS and love it! Fasssssst and surprisingly stable!
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SlimICS?! I thought it was pulled?
Its out there
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Its out there
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Where I've been hunting and can't seem to find it
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Using JB liquid smooth and its quick and haven't had any stability issues at all. I would give it a go, think you would love it ! You can remove anything you don't want to lighten it up
Slimbean and liquidsmooth are the 2 most stable of the roms I've tried. Slim being the lightest I believe.
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Whats your favorite feature on your Rooted S3?

While I sit here and contemplate if I should jump ship and unlock my S3, I am curious to know what other rooted users would say their favorite feature/benefit has been since unlocking the phone (compared to what was unavailable on stock). This phone is pretty solid as it is and a complete [email protected]$$ with its performance. I wonder how much better can it get.
What else is there other than running various roms and OC?
Custom recovery is always my favorite feature. I am fearless as long as I don't do anything to hinder my ability to reach recovery. Flash an incompatible kernel and device no longer boots? Holy sh- oh wait no everything's fine since I can restore everything right from the device while I'm nowhere near my PC. Revolutionary!
Custom recovery, google wallet, titanium backup, just to name a few.
The ability to change things in general. Android is open source at heart, which means that I get to buy something and tweak it the why I want it.
Honestly my favorite aspect is simple, toggle mods i love them and first thing i always change on roms
Just getting rid of all the annoying wifi notifications was enough reason to root for sure
Since your question was pertaining to what you can do since we've had boot loader unlocked vs what you could do before, the answer is flash custom ROMs and kernels with much ease and satisfaction. We could before but its much much simpler now. Unlocking this phone is strictly a ROM thing I'd say.
As great as they all are, tibu being my favorite one, everything posted in this thread so far was all possible before unlocking boot loader, and I didn't think that's what you were wanting to know. No offense to anyone.
If the question were about before rooting......the answer would be much much different.
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Theming
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I'd have to say Google Wallet, custom kernels, titanium backup, and different notification toggles
Wallet
Custom ROMS for battery life improvement, remove wifi notifications, overclock CPU
Google wallet and Google now are pretty amazing
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All the stuff mentioned, but ad free browsing I also consider a must and modifying the hosts file with a rooted app is the best way to accomplish it.
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Theming
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TAPPED in on my (now unlocked bootloader) Verizon S3
Pagaldesi4life said:
While I sit here and contemplate if I should jump ship and unlock my S3, I am curious to know what other rooted users would say their favorite feature/benefit has been since unlocking the phone (compared to what was unavailable on stock). This phone is pretty solid as it is and a complete [email protected]$$ with its performance. I wonder how much better can it get.
What else is there other than running various roms and OC?
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Freedom
variety of ROMS!!
The ability to use roms!
Custom ROM/kernel...and the goodies that come with them (free tether, improved battery, no bloat, etc)
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AOSP
Because I can and **** Samsung and **** Verizon. I hate being told what I can and cannot do to **** I OWN!
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Should I update to ICS?

Would it be worth it? What are some bugs people have experienced with it? Is the battery life better or worse than it is on Gingerbread? Thanks in advance for answering
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ics is cool, but I used it for about 2 days before jumping to jb, now I wouldn't go back .... so I say jb, I like the rom options better.
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Same for me. I initially upgraded to stock ICS and removed a bunch of the bloatware. Then I started using CM10 and haven't looked back since! I love all of the additional features/customization options that roms like this give you.
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Chitown021 said:
Same for me. I initially upgraded to stock ICS and removed a bunch of the bloatware. Then I started using CM10 and haven't looked back since! I love all of the additional features/customization options that roms like this give you.
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Double that here. I used stock ICS for an absurd amount of time, finally got around to rooting it, and recently talked myself into giving CM10 a whirl.
Glad I did. So far the only complaint I really have is the profiles settings do not currently have a way to disable vibration if you turn the ringer off. This is a CM wide bug from what I read on the net. But hey, look at it this way, ICS doesn't even have profiles!
I'd be skeptical about battery life estimations though, invariably people use their phone more when they have a new rom...from tinkering with it all the time, or not trusting it so they check the phone more often. I'm not saying there are not differences, just saying they are usually slight in reality, and it's up for debate if they mean anything in the long run.
While you can use google now with ICS, it's an inferior version. Google now is a great reason to upgrade to a Jelly Bean rom if you ask me.

[Q] Finally Got My Note 10.1

New thread further down the list! SWEET!
I got this tablet for school, trying to go paperless. I came from TF-101, now my wife's, so I know how things work. My question is, what is the best most stable Rom for this device? I like customizable roms but stability is a must. Any ideas out there?
I tired Omega but had problems connecting to my schools wifi, we have to use a third party app to connect, went back to stock and no problems.
Also, whats the best keyboard and word document for this bad [email protected]# machine?
pbaldw10
Unfortunately there is no specific one rom.. U will have to try a few roms and see what fits the best.
Omega rom has been the best for me, but very slow with updates..
Keyboard - best is the default one but lacks spell check.( there is a mod available in this forum) . I use swiftkey for typing and default for handwriting..
Word document -i like officesuite pro but Many like polaris , etc are good too
pbaldw10 said:
New thread further down the list! SWEET!
I got this tablet for school, trying to go paperless. I came from TF-101, now my wife's, so I know how things work. My question is, what is the best most stable Rom for this device? I like customizable roms but stability is a must. Any ideas out there?
I tired Omega but had problems connecting to my schools wifi, we have to use a third party app to connect, went back to stock and no problems.
Also, whats the best keyboard and word document for this bad [email protected]# machine?
pbaldw10
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The best is what is on it.
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The best is what is on it.
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Im starting to think just leave well enough alone. I love it so far and each day I find something new. Tried Omega and collection v6. Stock seems to be the best so far.
Any ideas on dock able keyboards and can I use a mouse with this. Im thinking full laptop replacement.
S- pen is nice, but sometimes you just have to type.
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Odin is awesome, its like flahing roms and restoring is completely encouraged.
A word app you might want to give a try is CloudOn, a free app that is as close as makes no difference a full MS word and Excel for your tablet. It's not perfect and it lags a bit (at least here in Europe, maybe it's because it's webbased and the servers are in the US) but it has the advantages that all equations, tables, pi pictures, figures and so on you have in your document is displayed properly.
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try redemption rom :good:
First off congratulations on the note 10.1 !. Personally I would stick with stock, maybe root it, debloat it and enjoy. There are a lot of great roms out there but there are a lot that suffer from weird quirks and glitches, Also I would advise against using any custom kernels or overclocking as they have a tenancy of causing crashes in my experience
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Axel_ said:
A word app you might want to give a try is CloudOn, a free app that is as close as makes no difference a full MS word and Excel for your tablet. It's not perfect and it lags a bit (at least here in Europe, maybe it's because it's webbased and the servers are in the US) but it has the advantages that all equations, tables, pi pictures, figures and so on you have in your document is displayed properly.
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I'll second CloudOn, and also second the lagging. If you need to do some serious work in Excel, I don't thing it can be beat. Else you can usually find me in Google docs for first stays of papers, notes and things like that.
As for keyboards, I picked up a Microsoft wedge bluetooth keyboard and couldn't be happier. I found a new in box item on eBay for $45 shipped, in stores I think they are closer to the 60-70 range.
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Hi
For me if you are looking to take notes then use Payrus, its free and geat to use.
Have you tried the free polaris office.
Keyboard and mouse have Motorola works for me.
Hope you have as much fun n productive as I have...
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ckavvouras said:
First off congratulations on the note 10.1 !. Personally I would stick with stock, maybe root it, debloat it and enjoy. There are a lot of great roms out there but there are a lot that suffer from weird quirks and glitches, Also I would advise against using any custom kernels or overclocking as they have a tenancy of causing crashes in my experience
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Nothing against any developer, but without source code hard to get perfect results. Most very good considering.
hygradeb said:
Hi
For me if you are looking to take notes then use Payrus, its free and geat to use.
Have you tried the free polaris office.
Keyboard and mouse have Motorola works for me.
Hope you have as much fun n productive as I have...
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+1 to Papyrus.
As I just got this tablet a few days ago, still undecided whether I want to keep it or not, the smaller development kinda surprised me.
If you're using it to replace paper for school, you're best off with a rooted stock rom so you can do multiwindow everything but keep everything stable. Also, lecture notes + dropbox => golden notes.
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Nothing against any developer, but without source code hard to get perfect results. Most very good considering.
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Indeed, but what he is asking for is something stable and stock imo is the most stable, not saying there are not good roms out there, but the last thing he needs is his note crashing after have written a Bunch of stuff for school
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Indeed, but what he is asking for is something stable and stock imo is the most stable, not saying there are not good roms out there, but the last thing he needs is his note crashing after have written a Bunch of stuff for school
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You missed my first post, "the best rom is already on it".
Correct. The standard firmware is very stable.
I use lecturenotes to take handwritten notes it also allows you (with the extra plugins) to record the audio while you make your notes. You can even record the audio plus a video of the notes so you can play it back after.
Another small recommendation, if you like mind maps simpleminds is great.
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