PSA: S4's are robustly stressed before they go to retail (Video) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General

This video is for anybody doubting the strength of the S4, saying it poorly designed, and doubting all the stress testing Samsung put into the phone before releasing...well behold, a look in the official Samsung Stress Test Labs:

Give someone a dollar to drop theirs in a bucket of water.

Dang! Nice how you can see when dropped the "plastic" body everyone *****es about flexes to absorb the impact. And those screen break test had my nerves going a bit i was for sure expecting the screen to crack?

AnthomX said:
Give someone a dollar to drop theirs in a bucket of water.
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Water + electricity = bad
Impurities in water + water evaporating + micro electronics = broken
Really is that simple. Only way to water proof electronics is with conformal coatings then you induce heat issues and increase the size of the boards. There are water proof (well water resistant really) phones but they usually have a cost, spec and/or size tradeoff.
Seeing the video it looks like the phones will 'work' in a sense but obviously that is
1 a lab
2 not showing how long it will work
Usually the water
1 shorts the battery (not what happened there)
2 evaporates and leaves mineral deposits that shorts internal circuits
Obviously sometimes nothing bad happens. Personally I'll not take my chances lol.
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If it's on the Internet, it must be true. :laugh:
I really do think that these phones are stressed tested pretty good, but I also think the makers of that video might have exaggerated just a bit too. I don't think the water test accurately reflects what would happen IRL to your phone an I wouldn't recommend anyone try it
Thanks for posting the video..

scott14719 said:
If it's on the Internet, it must be true. :laugh:
I really do think that these phones are stressed tested pretty good, but I also think the makers of that video might have exaggerated just a bit too. I don't think the water test accurately reflects what would happen IRL to your phone an I wouldn't recommend anyone try it
Thanks for posting the video..
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i'm not too sure how they could of exaggerated the test, its pretty straight forward to me, submerge phone in water for 15 seconds, take it out. There are countless videos on youtube showing water drop tests, they all come to the same conclusion, the phone can survive the drop in water, it might just not survive when the water starts to evaporate and leave residues on the circuit board and hardware.if you leave it like that, if you put it in a bag of rice overnight, you have decent chances of rescuing it

video says that the actual quality\torture test may be different in "real" test environment and this is for commercial purpose only. So try not to believe it 100%. I'd still carry my phone like a baby.
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_Dennis_ said:
Water + electricity = bad
Impurities in water + water evaporating + micro electronics = broken
Really is that simple. Only way to water proof electronics is with conformal coatings then you induce heat issues and increase the size of the boards. There are water proof (well water resistant really) phones but they usually have a cost, spec and/or size tradeoff.
Seeing the video it looks like the phones will 'work' in a sense but obviously that is
1 a lab
2 not showing how long it will work
Usually the water
1 shorts the battery (not what happened there)
2 evaporates and leaves mineral deposits that shorts internal circuits
Obviously sometimes nothing bad happens. Personally I'll not take my chances lol.
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Lol, hence me offering a dollar. I would love to have a "waterproof" phone, but in reality I'm not dealing with freshwater so it would have to hold up to salt. Which is disappointung that nobody has come out with a decent waterproof case for our phones. Instead concentrating on apple. Sigh....

polish_pat said:
i'm not too sure how they could of exaggerated the test, its pretty straight forward to me, submerge phone in water for 15 seconds, take it out. There are countless videos on youtube showing water drop tests, they all come to the same conclusion, the phone can survive the drop in water, it might just not survive when the water starts to evaporate and leave residues on the circuit board and hardware.if you leave it like that, if you put it in a bag of rice overnight, you have decent chances of rescuing it
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Rescuing a phone or bringing it back to life after it drops into water if proper care is taken is one thing. The phone actually continuing to work while water is in contact with the battery and circuits is something different. Electronics (unless treated with sealant) simply do not work that way.

scott14719 said:
Rescuing a phone or bringing it back to life after it drops into water if proper care is taken is one thing. The phone actually continuing to work while water is in contact with the battery and circuits is something different. Electronics (unless treated with sealant) simply do not work that way.
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Please, you,re telling this to a guy that studied electrical engineering for 2 semesters in college. This has nothing to do with shorting out the battery, or components, this has to do with the phone being sealed in a proper way so this DOESN'T happen. Thats the point of the test. Plus, water is a TERRIBLE conductor of electricity, only the minerals in water make it conductive. This test was probably done in distilled water which has ZERO conductivity, so it could pretty much stay in water for minutes without shorting out the phone. Somebody in detroit, and somebody in California would not have the same chances of saving their phone if dropped, one has fresh water and the other salt water, and salt water is a good conductor

polish_pat said:
This video is for anybody doubting the strength of the S4, saying it poorly designed, and doubting all the stress testing Samsung put into the phone before releasing...well behold, a look in the official Samsung Stress Test Labs:
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yeah.. that is like saying Toyota brakes problems never existed! do a video AFTER the brakes been fixed!

scott14719 said:
If it's on the Internet, it must be true. :laugh:
I really do think that these phones are stressed tested pretty good, but I also think the makers of that video might have exaggerated just a bit too. I don't think the water test accurately reflects what would happen IRL to your phone an I wouldn't recommend anyone try it
Thanks for posting the video..
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polish_pat said:
i'm not too sure how they could of exaggerated the test, its pretty straight forward to me, submerge phone in water for 15 seconds, take it out. There are countless videos on youtube showing water drop tests, they all come to the same conclusion, the phone can survive the drop in water, it might just not survive when the water starts to evaporate and leave residues on the circuit board and hardware.if you leave it like that, if you put it in a bag of rice overnight, you have decent chances of rescuing it
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scott14719 said:
Rescuing a phone or bringing it back to life after it drops into water if proper care is taken is one thing. The phone actually continuing to work while water is in contact with the battery and circuits is something different. Electronics (unless treated with sealant) simply do not work that way.
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Please, you,re telling this to a guy that studied electrical engineering for 2 semesters in college. This has nothing to do with shorting out the battery, or components, this has to do with the phone being sealed in a proper way so this DOESN'T happen. Thats the point of the test. Plus, water is a TERRIBLE conductor of electricity, only the minerals in water make it conductive. This test was probably done in distilled water which has ZERO conductivity, so it could pretty much stay in water for minutes without shorting out the phone. Somebody in detroit, and somebody in California would not have the same chances of saving their phone if dropped, one has fresh water and the other salt water, and salt water is a good conductor
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I'm not sure if you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing but I clearly said I think the test might have been exaggerated. Your response was that you didn't think it was (your first bolded quote) and then you turn around and say it might have been (your second bolded quote where you said it might have been distilled water instead of regular water)? Using a non-common type of water sure looks like they might be exaggerating real life outcomes to me (as I said in my first bolded quote).
So I'm not sure but it looks like you are arguing with yourself?

My buddy drop tested my phone at the bar the other night. 5 drops at about 4 feet high face down. Not a scratch or crack on the screen. Only thing was the bezel on the corner is a little bent when it didn't fall flat on its face one drop. No case or screen protector. This thing is a tank
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imitenotbecrazy said:
My buddy drop tested my phone at the bar the other night. 5 drops at about 4 feet high face down. Not a scratch or crack on the screen. Only thing was the bezel on the corner is a little bent when it didn't fall flat on its face one drop. No case or screen protector. This thing is a tank
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That was a potentially expensive test. The bar musta been hopping. :laugh:

Haha I work for best buy so I have our geek squad protection. Being that the phone is so new I wouldn't get a refurb if it broke. I won't have the phone long enough to care about having a refurb if that happens anyway haha
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netnerd said:
yeah.. that is like saying Toyota brakes problems never existed! do a video AFTER the brakes been fixed!
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i'm pretty sure this video was done weeks if not months before the s4 came out. Thats the whole point of stress testing.

scott14719 said:
I'm not sure if you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing but I clearly said I think the test might have been exaggerated. Your response was that you didn't think it was (your first bolded quote) and then you turn around and say it might have been (your second bolded quote where you said it might have been distilled water instead of regular water)? Using a non-common type of water sure looks like they might be exaggerating real life outcomes to me (as I said in my first bolded quote).
So I'm not sure but it looks like you are arguing with yourself?
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No, thats because you have such a closed mind, you don't get the point of the test. ITS NOT ABOUT DROPPING THE TEST IN WATER AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO SHORT, ITS ABOUT SEEING HOW WELL THE PHONE IS SEALED AKA WATER NOT GOING UNDER LCD, AKA WATER NOT PENETRATING CAMERA LENS.........ETC. Do you get it yet? They are eliminating variables like conductivity to see how well the phone hold up against infiltration. If the phone holds up well against that, it doesn't matter if its dropped in a base solution or in acid.

I don't know about you guys, but all my toilets are filled strictly with distilled water.
Samsung has more money invested in phone dropping contraptions than every house on my block is worth.
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But...but...all the HTC fanboys say that the S4 is some cheap plastic crap. :/

polish_pat said:
No, thats because you have such a closed mind, you don't get the point of the test. ITS NOT ABOUT DROPPING THE TEST IN WATER AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO SHORT, ITS ABOUT SEEING HOW WELL THE PHONE IS SEALED AKA WATER NOT GOING UNDER LCD, AKA WATER NOT PENETRATING CAMERA LENS.........ETC. Do you get it yet? They are eliminating variables like conductivity to see how well the phone hold up against infiltration. If the phone holds up well against that, it doesn't matter if its dropped in a base solution or in acid.
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Here is the website for those of us that don't speak Korean...
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=24643
It says nothing about using any kind of special water for that test. And I am still calling Bul***t! How about filming yourself dunking your phone into regular tap water for the exact amount of time that was done in that video and let's see the results? There is a thread about a guy that dropped his in water for a moment and he had to dry it out in rice for over 48+ hours before it worked properly again...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318906
That is a real world result! And he was lucky it came back to life AFTER drying it out.

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I'm in some serious trouble!!! My screen stopped working!!

Hey guys,
I was at work playing a mkv file in my car then I cool myself off by dripping water on me and I accidentally drip a little bit on the screen I suddenly notice my screen lowering the volume by itself and I quickly dried it off. Afterwards, I notice the screen brightest on the left side (facing up) started flickering I immediately knew there was going to be serious issues. I turned off the phone, checked the casing for any drippings and found no water drips inside the casing. I turned on the phone to find a quick pixelated screen for a quick season then booted to the HTC theme..
The phone booted to the home screen that's when the screen started to flicker similar to a computer's VGA, DVI or HDMI cable is loose in the back every pixel color on the screen starts flashing in colors. The screen turned pink then stopped working..
Here's the good news: I'm covered with tmobiles premium insurance and HTC's insurance...
Here's the bad news: I s-off, rooted and flashed a rom 12hrs ago..
Technically speaking, I'm screwed because I can't get the screen to function to revert back the changes and Idk what to do.. If you've any thoughts or ideas to help me fix this issue please I'll gladly appreciate.
There is 2 real options.
One is repair the screen all though somehow I don't think the water has caused the problem, modern mobile devices can usually withstand a small amount of water including light rain and maybe a light splash of liquid. They are all tested for this kind of thing. It sounds like something physical as I'm fairly sure it wont be the ROM to blame, so by this you should be able to claim on the insurance as its a physical defect and would of happened regardless of flashing etc. I can't be sure how successful you'll be with this though, its probably best to go to the HTC insurance for this as tmobile with blow it off as quick as possible.
The other option is not advised and is classed as insurance fraud which is highly illegal there for won't be putting it down in writing due to not wanting to upset the admins, mods and rules of the forum. But I'm sure you all know what the procedure is.
Hope this helps though bud. Good luck.
After fully inspecting the case and the phone itself.. I just realized the little drip of water could've made its way inside the phone small gap after noticing something white stuck in there..
I gotta have the idea that if the screen doesn't work then they can't see what's inside it right? lol.. I'm going to discharge the phone and let it dry then pray it works so I can revert the changes then make a claim.
Ajboricua said:
After fully inspecting the case and the phone itself.. I just realized the little drip of water could've made its way inside the phone small gap after noticing something white stuck in there..
I gotta have the idea that if the screen doesn't work then they can't see what's inside it right? lol.. I'm going to discharge the phone and let it dry then pray it works so I can revert the changes then make a claim.
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Check your insurance policy, accidental damage might be covered. Surely they can't make all claims void if the device software has been modified. In my eyes HTC actively encourages it.
RoganTheTwat said:
There is 2 real options.
One is repair the screen all though somehow I don't think the water has caused the problem, modern mobile devices can usually withstand a small amount of water including light rain and maybe a light splash of liquid. They are all tested for this kind of thing. It sounds like something physical as I'm fairly sure it wont be the ROM to blame, so by this you should be able to claim on the insurance as its a physical defect and would of happened regardless of flashing etc. I can't be sure how successful you'll be with this though, its probably best to go to the HTC insurance for this as tmobile with blow it off as quick as possible.
The other option is not advised and is classed as insurance fraud which is highly illegal there for won't be putting it down in writing due to not wanting to upset the admins, mods and rules of the forum. But I'm sure you all know what the procedure is.
Hope this helps though bud. Good luck.
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HTC won't blow me off despite it being rooted and having a different rom? I know tmobile would blow me off if they found out I rooted the damn thing.. Maybe idk honestly.. I could smash it to pieces and say I dropped in a 3 story building still be covered (I asked this question before purchasing the insurance haha)..
Ajboricua said:
HTC won't blow me off despite it being rooted and having a different rom? I know tmobile would blow me off if they found out I rooted the damn thing.. Maybe idk honestly.. I could smash it to pieces and say I dropped in a 3 story building still be covered (I asked this question before purchasing the insurance haha)..
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The best option is probably let the device dry off. Reboot it in a few hours, assess the damage if any, if its fixable or fine go for that, if its beyond fixing then take it as far as you see fit mate
Try drying your phone out on a windowsill or somewhere else warm, with the back case off and the battery out for a few hours, then give the phone a try again.
If that doesnt work then I suggest following RoganTheTwat's advice! You should be ok with the root situation...
RoganTheTwat said:
The best option is probably let the device dry off. Reboot it in a few hours, assess the damage if any, if its fixable or fine go for that, if its beyond fixing then take it as far as you see fit mate
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Thanks RoganTheTwat,
I'm definitely going to do that and if not then claim it with tmobile or HTC! I hope I get more opinions and knowledge like yours.
If nothing helps,DO NOT drive over it, and DO NOT claim accidental damage. If you do, you would commit fraud and would take minuscule amount of money from their HUGE profits, which they get by ripping off customers. So DO NOT do anything like that mate.
I would say Take battery off and the cover then try to keep the phone in a warm dry environment
very important to keep battery out and phone off since there is a sign of possible water damage.
the drying part you can keep it in a zip lock bag of rice it will help absorbing moisture and water.
or "Carefully with this one" wrap it up with cotton cloth and apply Warm air by a hair dryer( Do NOT set it on HOT ) apply it randomly don't constraint on one area and make sure you keep distant.
let me how that work Good Luck
Ajboricua said:
Thanks RoganTheTwat,
I'm definitely going to do that and if not then claim it with tmobile or HTC! I hope I get more opinions and knowledge like yours.
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No problem mate. This is what forums are for, helping people
pour more water in it
You could remove root and go back to s-on if it let's you
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get a bowl of uncooked rice, put the phone inside the bowl and make sure you cover it so that air won't be able to get in. leave it for a day.. also make sure that the phone is off.. you can take the battery out to be safe.. always works.. saved a lot of my friends phone, including one who dropped her cp on a toilet bowl.
tinky1 said:
If nothing helps,DO NOT drive over it, and DO NOT claim accidental damage. If you do, you would commit fraud and would take minuscule amount of money from their HUGE profits, which they get by ripping off customers. So DO NOT do anything like that mate.
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This was accidental damage I didn't purposely pour drips of water onto my phone because I wanted to know what will happen. There's no fraud under tmobile's policy if I claim it to be accidental or anything else.. I'm paying $7mo for premium insurance.
medoo313 said:
I would say Take battery off and the cover then try to keep the phone in a warm dry environment
very important to keep battery out and phone off since there is a sign of possible water damage.
the drying part you can keep it in a zip lock bag of rice it will help absorbing moisture and water.
or "Carefully with this one" wrap it up with cotton cloth and apply Warm air by a hair dryer( Do NOT set it on HOT ) apply it randomly don't constraint on one area and make sure you keep distant.
let me how that work Good Luck
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I put it in a rice zip-lock bag next to my computer then I'll wrap it with cotton cloth and apply warm air. I'll post results in about 7hrs.
Thanks everyone for the support
to OP. i dropped my HD2 into the bowl while it was flushing for a good 3 seconds. Didn't work for 5 days. But its still working till now (for more than a year.) i just opened up all the casings and let it dry
tinky1 said:
If nothing helps,DO NOT drive over it, and DO NOT claim accidental damage. If you do, you would commit fraud and would take minuscule amount of money from their HUGE profits, which they get by ripping off customers. So DO NOT do anything like that mate.
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Hahahahahaaha !!!
Ajboricua said:
Thanks RoganTheTwat,
I'm definitely going to do that and if not then claim it with tmobile or HTC! I hope I get more opinions and knowledge like yours.
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Ha! I RoganTheTwat XD
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krat0s123 said:
get a bowl of uncooked rice, put the phone inside the bowl and make sure you cover it so that air won't be able to get in. leave it for a day.. also make sure that the phone is off.. you can take the battery out to be safe.. always works.. saved a lot of my friends phone, including one who dropped her cp on a toilet bowl.
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Finally, someone with some sense...Moisture will get into that thing like its no ones business if you let it.
If the rice doesnt work, try something stronger. You can get stuff at the grocery store that is meant for drying out moist rooms. I use it to keep the bathroom dry.
Matt
mrg02d said:
Finally, someone with some sense...Moisture will get into that thing like its no ones business if you let it.
If the rice doesnt work, try something stronger. You can get stuff at the grocery store that is meant for drying out moist rooms. I use it to keep the bathroom dry.
Matt
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Or just raid your gf's closet and jam a tampon into the MicroUSB port..

Liquipel: Waterproof your Charge.

So today at CES they announced the only thing i actually care about; Liquipel. What's Liquipel? Well thats a good question, reader! Liquipel is a coating you put on your smartphone that basically waterproofs the interior and exterior. Any water that touches the coated area will just slide off. Why should you care? Well, our beloved Droid Charge is among the small list of supported devices! Of course they will expand that list over time but it's nice to see our phone getting some attention by being first on the list.
Heres a video test of Liquipel.
http://youtu.be/Ln0daAowdJI
Heres an article.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Waterproof-your-smartphone-or-tablet-using-Liquipel-coating_id25758
Yeah i'd say thats cool!
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Awesome.... Cant wait to text while swimming
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Interesting piece of information might buy it
By me, for me and i love you
Wow that is cool
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This tech has a lot of potential, but I have to speak my skepticism. I watched their demo video showing an iPhone being submerged in water and still working. Seems all well and nifty, right? I highly doubt they would use anything but distilled water for their demo. Guess what, entire computer motherboards have been submerged in distilled water while in operation and lasted even over a minute. Distilled water is non-conductive. I suspect that a computer would continue operation in distilled water if the water, acting as a mild solvent (due to water's dipole moment) didn't dissolve some of the matter on the board like dust or chemicals.
While I would love to believe that this tech will pan out well, I will believe it when I see it for real. This tech, in my opinion, is almost certain to fail if a phone is submerged in salt-water.
I would love to be proved wrong, and I will be following this tech closely.
They should try urine just for better real world results. People like myself can speak from experience.
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I wouldn't call this waterproof by any means. More like highly water resistant-just so that you aren't afraid to use it in the rain.
And xdadevnube, even distilled water conducts enough electricity to be plenty damaging to computers. Maybe you're thinking of mineral oil.
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xdadevnube said:
This tech has a lot of potential, but I have to speak my skepticism. I watched their demo video showing an iPhone being submerged in water and still working. Seems all well and nifty, right? I highly doubt they would use anything but distilled water for their demo. Guess what, entire computer motherboards have been submerged in distilled water while in operation and lasted even over a minute. Distilled water is non-conductive. I suspect that a computer would continue operation in distilled water if the water, acting as a mild solvent (due to water's dipole moment) didn't dissolve some of the matter on the board like dust or chemicals.
While I would love to believe that this tech will pan out well, I will believe it when I see it for real. This tech, in my opinion, is almost certain to fail if a phone is submerged in salt-water.
I would love to be proved wrong, and I will be following this tech closely.
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Distilled water, while being less conductive than most water, is still conductive. De-ionized water would be the least conductive, but still, itself is conductive. It may not be much, but it would still be enough to short out a computer or circuit board.
Sounds like a great idea, though I would be worried about scratchs that would possibly remove such a coating. That or if you remove your battery cover?
Only other thing is, if I have to send my phone into them, even if I overnight it, I'm out a phone for 2.x to 3.x days at least. Who can go without their cell phone for that long? I know I can't!
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imnuts said:
Distilled water, while being less conductive than most water, is still conductive. De-ionized water would be the least conductive, but still, itself is conductive. It may not be much, but it would still be enough to short out a computer or circuit board.
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Thanks for the correction. I am rather curious how well the tech would hold up to both tap water and sea water though.
It would be a bummer to pay for the coating only to find our your device gets "hosed" from being exposed to water.
I wonder if the device could be protected from damage while the battery slowly discharged in the water (I presume the battery terminals will still leak current into the water.) So if you dropped your phone in a body of water until the battery was gone, then your device might still work after being allowed to dry?
Odds are that something besides the battery would short out first. Sea water would obviously be the worst as it is much more corrosive and conductive than tap water. Personally, even if I had this coating, I'd still treat my phone the same way and pull the battery immediately if it got into water, and then dry it out thoroughly before even thinking about putting the battery back in.
imnuts said:
Odds are that something besides the battery would short out first. Sea water would obviously be the worst as it is much more corrosive and conductive than tap water. Personally, even if I had this coating, I'd still treat my phone the same way and pull the battery immediately if it got into water, and then dry it out thoroughly before even thinking about putting the battery back in.
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Exactly. This coating isn't really meant to let you play with your phone underwater or get cool underwater photos. You still shouldn't try to get it wet, this just adds protection in-case it does happen. Kinda like a case, it doesn't make your phone invincible, you could still get cracks and/or damage your phone from dropping it but it really helps.
This looks really cool, and promising! I'm not really hard on my phones and usually keep them dry and take good care of them... but this interests me for that extra level of protection.
Lets face it, water/liquid is one of the biggest killers of phones!
Can't wait to hear from someone on here that gets theirs done, it will be nice to see an independent report vs. mfg claims.
looked at their site, and I don't see it being worth the cost. If my phone gets wet and needs replaced, I can pay the same amount for an insurance replacement.
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Water resistance experience

Has any brave soul tried this feature? If so give us your experience!
Personally I have not, knowing my luck my device would be the one with faulty ports/leaks ?
Some people have tried it and damaged their phone. Others have been fine. The phone is water resistant not waterproof so I would recommend against dipping it in water.
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I personally placed my wife's S7 Edge screen under a running tap for a few seconds. Phone still works fine. Having said that the iPhone 6S has some great water resistant features and it doesn't even have an IP rating. Yet my old iPhone 5s died after siting in a little puddle of water on the bathroom basin bench, which was barely as deep as the back cover. At least with some certified proof of water resistance protection on the S7's, I won't be taking mine swimming or showering, but its surely great to know that it could
handle some very common water contact.
If it spoils easily regardlessof having water resistance why does samsung make all these ads with lil john dunking his phone in the aquarium and whatnot. Theyre tempting us to do so and if the phone is broken they should never void the warranty as long as it adheres to the phone being not deeper than 1.5 meters for not longer than 30 mins
As above, i've run mine under the tap a few times and it's been fine. I've never submerged it though, I don't dare yet. I also don't have a need to, so don't anticipate I will anytime soon.
I finally had it tested and it was an accidental situation which makes it seem useful and not just intentionally testing it for the sake of it. We left my wife's S7 on the coffee table and there was a cup of water on there. We came back and the water got knocked over, the phone was kind of in a puddle of it. I was actually excited to test it, but pissed that my cat has been ****ing with filled cups of water lately.
Tried dipping it while i was in the gym pool lol charged it after 2 hrs moisture detected, wiped the inside with some tissue all good ?
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
toptekjon said:
I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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that's all true but they get you with the "water pressure" crap. running it under a slowly pouring tap should be fine, but running it under heavy/fast flowing water flowing from the tap could be a problem, also the entire submersion thing, drop it in slow it should be fine, throw it in water and it could cause issues.
The IP68 rating is simply a bonus for me. I will treat it no differently than any other phone but it's good to know that, should an accident occur, and it ends up in the sink or something similar, it should be alright. Being able to use it in the rain is quite nice too. However, people who put their new phone in a bowl of water the day they get it to prove some sort of point deserve any issues they end up with.
1.5m 30mins. With that rating i would say it's safe to bring it with you when you swim(not dive), and would not recommend to bring it to snorkel. I saw someone dropped their phone to a 40 feet river.. that for sure are gonna break the phone..
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BTW, make sure you never subject it to soapy water. Its water resistance relies on the surface tension of the water. Soap lowers water's surface tension, allowing the water to flow into places it normally wouldn't, as this guy found out the hard way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/water-damage-story-t3337463
toptekjon said:
I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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doing the same as you better to test the warranty while its still hot
it froze on me on 2nd shower, high pressure test video recording but im sure it was the fact that ive got like 5% space left on the memory.
I also run it under cold fast water if it heats up, i do block the charge port, then its cooled down enough for some day charging...
its quite a well built phone and I would be shocked if it does get water damage, but im worried, samy warranty is good service.
I couldn't resist testing this out. After all, if it's not working as advertised I'd want a replacement. So I filled up the sink and then carefully placed the phone at the bottom. The screen doesn't work while under water but once I took it out everything was back to normal. Awesome feature!
I don't need the water resistance features of the phone, but I do believe that if it's water resistant then it's less likely for moisture and corrosion to hamper with buttons, contacts and other internals. I had 3-4 phones with unresponsive power buttons over time, so if Samsung used good, oxidation-resistant materials for water resistance purposes then it will probably be beneficial for overall mechanical health of the phone as well.
Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
Nitemare3219 said:
Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
Ontopic: I tested my phone a lot. When I first got it I washed it with clean water everyday. I also washed it with soap a few times, I never had any problems.
After I received my dbrand skin I also washed it a couple of times, once with soap as well, to make sure the skin is water resistant (it is).
Now that the "new toy" syndrome has passed, I use my phone normally, but if someone asked me to take a selfie while the phone is underwater, I would do it
Dropped my phone in the bath and continued to leave it in there to show it off to the mrs as her iphone can't do it. Screen came out working fine including buttons, however the speaker was very distorted which kinda made me panic but it dried out overnight and all was well in the morning.
Needless to say I never lost my nerve round my partner and kept echoing your iPhone can't do that....
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
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Haha, well since it was in my hand it's not like it got very wet. With the water resistance, I really didn't care. Gave me my first opportunity to test it out.
My son wanted to get a video underwater at the pool last weekend.
https://youtu.be/3UL4qcH7rJs
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Water proof?

Is this properly waterproof?
Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
kolembo said:
Is this properly waterproof?
Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
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I tried YouTube in the shower to play some music. It starts doing all sort of things as it recognized water drops as touch actions on the screen. The moment the water hits the speakers it starts going dodgy. A good wipe later and the phone works perfectly. Although I must admit I started panicking a bit when I started hearing the distortions from the speakers.
I have not emerged it fully in water so that's all I've got for now. But I got great fate in it. I work on a boat in shallow waters so no doubt it will fall in one day and I'm going to go fishing for it. I will come with updates when it does happen
@yolinkin
ha!
Well done. Yeah, steam in my bath gets the screen acting funny.
I just need to know that it will survive an accidental dunking!
Onward.
kolembo said:
@yolinkin
ha!
Well done. Yeah, steam in my bath gets the screen acting funny.
I just need to know that it will survive an accidental dunking!
Onward.
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I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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They don't know it should be water proof, because it isn't. It's advertised as water/dust resistant. 2 different things.
SiggieX said:
I already tried twice to use it underwater on purpose. Both times it got damaged. The HTC support didnt even knew it should be waterproof, so I got both times a new one from Vodafone Germany. If it happens a third time, I'll choose another phone, because it was the additional reason for me to buy it. Shame on HTC..
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Can you elaborate what you tried?
Don't understand why people want to drown their phones underwater. I do believe HTC's intention for making it water resistant was for more device protection, not for snapchat scuba diving Lmao. Although, it did seem they were leading us to believe that we could take under water pics with the squeeze feature. They dropped the ball on that one.
Mine fell into sea water
It never turned on
and he is dead
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Mine fell into sea water
It never turned on
and he is dead
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Probably due to the salt in sea water. When it dries it crystallises. If any got in, it will affect the internal components.
Also check HTC website. It states clearly that it should only be resistant against still fresh/Tap water. Info attached.
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The first time I had it 20cm under water for 10s. Some bubbles left from the microphone down below. This time I#d wouldnt even survived a rondom accident with water.
The second time I tried it in my bathtub for around 5 minutes to test if pics or vids would work. It did a bit. Controlling the phone while changing from water to air or the other direction is impossible, because it unterstands waterdrpos as input. so if u dive into water, it automatically pushes both buttons.
Controlling it fully under water work, but u dont really see what u do.
The thing is, if HTC says it is IP 67, it also should be it. So I will also try it with ne next changed one. When something happens in the future, I really want it to be waterproof.
I think there is a general misconception of the official IP67 rating..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73584248&postcount=29
Just check there, also HTC claim, quite correctly it should resist water, but (like the official IP67 rating claims) you shouldn't submerge your device intentionally.
Trust me on this, I'm an engineer, IP67 does not mean you can happily use your device underwater, it should just survive a short trip into water (ie accidents) and you should be able to use it in rain etc.
I grew up knowing that electronic devices and water do not mix. I have owned almost all of the flagships without ever worrying about waterproofing. I never have water issues with my device cause I don't think it's a good idea to put it in water. This issue is way overblown.
I think this water resistance fad needs to die. I'd rather have removable battery than this 30 minute water resistance bs.
Btw, it's not waterproof that would imply it's resistant to water indefinitely these phones are simply water resistant.
Further there have been situations where phones that have been exposed to water won't charge because a sensor thinks the charge port is wet (on the s8 anyway).
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p50kombi said:
I think there is a general misconception of the official IP67 rating..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73584248&postcount=29
Just check there, also HTC claim, quite correctly it should resist water, but (like the official IP67 rating claims) you shouldn't submerge your device intentionally.
Trust me on this, I'm an engineer, IP67 does not mean you can happily use your device underwater, it should just survive a short trip into water (ie accidents) and you should be able to use it in rain etc.
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Agreed. I'm an engineer as well, and "water resistance" definitely refers to "water", like tap water or mineral water. It won't resist to sea water, orange juice, coca cola, high temperature bath/shower/SPA, and the steam.
And for some who put their phones into the refrigerator in summer and when phone gets hot, the water comes from the air inside...won't resist to that either.
Definitely not water proof
Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
konsti23 said:
Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
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Contact support and play dumb and tell them it fell into the sink or toilet bowl.
Do not tell them it fell into salt water (as it is not rated to withstand salt water) and keep your fingers crossed
konsti23 said:
Hi there
The U11 is definitely not water proof. In the brief desctiption (at least in Switzerland, guess it's the same in "any" german description) it is clearly stated "Wasserdicht" (= water proof). Today the device fell into sea water, maybe 1 m and stayed for about 30 seconds.
After some hours I opened he sim tray and the white spot (liquid damage indicator (LDI)appeared red. So water definitely penetrated the device. Guess it doesn't matter wether it's sea or other water - but the damages inside are certainly higher with sea water due to the salt.
I could turn on the device and it felt into a kind of boot loop. Starting up in download mode worked. It is now in a rice bath and I am waiting now a few hours.
Hope I don't have to buy a new device...
And I will have to adjust my signature...
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Salt water is no friend to any waterproof device. I have used multiple times my S7 and U11 in salt water and they are perfectly fine as long you clean them quickly with "sweat" water.
My balls are not big enough to try submerging it. As long it resist a little sweat and the occasional rain I'm happy with it.
kolembo said:
Is this properly waterproof?
Has anyone tried?
I don't trust mine for some reason....
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I took mine to a water park for a day, only issue I had was audio distortion for a few hours while the speakers dried out.
Water proof - guarantee case - update
Hi all
Small update regarding the "water proof" case. Well, it shows up that the thing is getting very complicate. I explain how the reparation chain is organized in Switzerland:
- Device is sold in Electronic Shop (the name is not important)
- In case of reparation: Drop the device with Electronic Shop
- Electronic shop sends device to a reparation center in Switzerand which repairs normally devices (any brands). At this repair center, HTC devices are NOT repaired, they are sent to Czech Republic (or Poland - I don't remember) for reparation.
- And then the whole chain is going back to the Electronic shop
Now, I have received an invoice for the reparation because of the water damage. After that I have contacted the reparation center Switzerland (which explained that they don't repair HTC devices) and after that the reparation center abroad. They now play the game telling me "Yes, your device has a water damage". When I reply that the HTC U11 is supposed NOT to have water damages (according to the specs) I get the reply "yes, we understand that you are angry, but in case of water damages we can't do anything. And your device has a water damage".
Next reply: Reparation center in Switzerland says "Please refer to Reparation Center abroad". Reparation Center abroad says "Please see this case with reparation center in Switzerland". So nobody is taking it's responsibilities.
I also get the statement from the reparation center abroad that every device is tested for water proof before they are sold. And this would also be a reason that my device was not water proof on another spot. YES SURE!
I am really pxxxed off. This is the first time in 10 years that I have a reparation in guarantee. If HTC is not willing to repair my device as guarantee case then I am done with them. I HOPE HTC READS THIS.
Thanks for reading

does Whitestone doom screen loose under water?

Can I you my phone with Whitestone doom screen protector understand water?
probably not if submerged for any length of time but splash or similar yes
Please don't submerge the phone underwater. Samsung doesn't help you if it gets damaged.
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Lol. Like anybody is going to listen. Water resistant means water proof to the uninformed. The batteries are sealed but still no proof of water proof. They should sell phones with swappable batteries and sealed for the people who think it's ok to take showers with electronics or take care of ceramic business with their phones inches above sewage. All those signatories to the Paris Accord but little has changed.
tamerh said:
Can I you my phone with Whitestone doom screen protector understand water?
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Ive been pretty consistent in submerging my phones since the note7 without issue and Im curious as well.
I think it would probably provide some good information researching the adhesive itself.
@rbiter said:
Lol. Like anybody is going to listen. Water resistant means water proof to the uninformed. The batteries are sealed but still no proof of water proof. They should sell phones with swappable batteries and sealed for the people who think it's ok to take showers with electronics or take care of ceramic business with their phones inches above sewage. All those signatories to the Paris Accord but little has changed.
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They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
OPGT said:
They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
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I wouldn't even bother.
The arguments will be
Samsung doesnt suggest/cover it
How does someone know you didn't go to outside the IP rating threshold
Water and electronics dont mix
People will explain water resistant vs proof
The wearing down of water seals
Honorable mention: Shower steam
It's their phone. Let em eat cake.
OPGT said:
They clearly state its able to be submerged in water for 10-15 minutes with no damage. You think taking a shower with it is going to damage the phone?? LOL.
Edit: 30 minutes actually.
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I stick to my water resistant claim. You know the first thing they look for is water ingress for a repair. I can't even test the 'proof' for fear of failure. Once the OEMs change up their wording and how they handle claims I'll be more than happy to go along with 'waterproof' claims. Until then, I stick to water resistant claims.
Another reason is batteries. We have climate change going on not to mention a myriad of infrastructure failing including trash and recycling and batteries are very hard for the end user to swap because people are so addicted to these technological marvel slabs, not only do people sleep with their phones (literally) but showering and using them on the toilet is more important than the environment. This could easily be handled two ways. Make phones with battery covers and water proof phones for the choice or make it water proof/resistant but easily swappable by the end user. This can be done easily with screws or other methods. But fashion is also a higher priority. BTW, have you read the Paris Agreement? I am halfway through it. I am the only person I know that has even bothered. And recycling phones and batteries isn't all that easy and cheap. And China just stopped taking our trash which is already causing the US huge problems. Know about the black river in China? You looked into India a little more closely? End of rant.
Reality and specs are two different things. Ask Sony when they first started making waterproof claims and people were testing those claims and lots of phones failed the 'proof' test and Sony's marketing and liability wording changed. Samsung and Apple also fail on this part. Samsung Active phones which were made more rugged and water proof was much higher on the spec and marketing list and look where that went. To my knowledge Samsung has unofficially discontinued the Active line which means we don't get the choice of safeguarding our environment and unnecessary convenience.
So yeah, I think taking a shower is at high risk of damage to the phone, your wallet and stress levels. The only time I've been worried about water is when I go fishing. The remedy? Ziplock bag and still able to use my phone. Rain hasn't been a worry for a few years. If OEMs are true to their marketing and claims, the inside circuitry should have a nano coating to repel water and lessen chance of a short. Tests on YouTube mean nothing also. Wasn't it the S8 Active that failed miserably in the real world? Makes you wonder more about cherry picking. Or not.
You willing to make a 30 minute video of your note9 at least 1 meter underwater to share with us? Water resistance is very low on my priority list.
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I stick to my water resistant claim. You know the first thing they look for is water ingress for a repair. I can't even test the 'proof' for fear of failure. Once the OEMs change up their wording and how they handle claims I'll be more than happy to go along with 'waterproof' claims. Until then, I stick to water resistant claims.
Another reason is batteries. We have climate change going on not to mention a myriad of infrastructure failing including trash and recycling and batteries are very hard for the end user to swap because people are so addicted to these technological marvel slabs, not only do people sleep with their phones (literally) but showering and using them on the toilet is more important than the environment. This could easily be handled two ways. Make phones with battery covers and water proof phones for the choice or make it water proof/resistant but easily swappable by the end user. This can be done easily with screws or other methods. But fashion is also a higher priority. BTW, have you read the Paris Agreement? I am halfway through it. I am the only person I know that has even bothered. And recycling phones and batteries isn't all that easy and cheap. And China just stopped taking our trash which is already causing the US huge problems. Know about the black river in China? You looked into India a little more closely? End of rant.
Reality and specs are two different things. Ask Sony when they first started making waterproof claims and people were testing those claims and lots of phones failed the 'proof' test and Sony's marketing and liability wording changed. Samsung and Apple also fail on this part. Samsung Active phones which were made more rugged and water proof was much higher on the spec and marketing list and look where that went. To my knowledge Samsung has unofficially discontinued the Active line which means we don't get the choice of safeguarding our environment and unnecessary convenience.
So yeah, I think taking a shower is at high risk of damage to the phone, your wallet and stress levels. The only time I've been worried about water is when I go fishing. The remedy? Ziplock bag and still able to use my phone. Rain hasn't been a worry for a few years. If OEMs are true to their marketing and claims, the inside circuitry should have a nano coating to repel water and lessen chance of a short. Tests on YouTube mean nothing also. Wasn't it the S8 Active that failed miserably in the real world? Makes you wonder more about cherry picking. Or not.
You willing to make a 30 minute video of your note9 at least 1 meter underwater to share with us? Water resistance is very low on my priority list.
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Not going to make a random person a 30 minute video just to prove a point. I take showers with it from time to time. My last phone was the S7 edge and did the same. Even swam with it for a couple minutes under water. Do whatever you want lol.
I took my Note 7 in the pool before I sent it back to Samsung to be put down, no issues but I did wait until I had a new phone to try it.
Last month my wife dropped her S7 with a crack in the screen in the pool, and it was after she showered and put on make-up so she didn't jump in and get it, she got the pool skimmer and took her time getting it out. No issues.
Still not interested in taking my Note 9 swimming, I have a GoPro for that.

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