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which phone would be the best to get?

so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
also im a root user and love flashing roms

i mean verzion lol wow

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Ive tried all three i recommend the droid charge
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icebear8 said:
so i am coming from sprint with a Samsung Epic 4g (we dont have 4g in des moines ia) and well i have to get a phone on the 16th and the phones i am lookin at are
Samsung droid charge,HTC thunderbolt , and the Motorola droid x2
and im wondering which phone would be the best to get? i dont think 4g matters as there is no 4g here and i mostly use my phone for emulators,email,IM,texting,and alot of web, what would be the best phone to get? i dont take pics and well i never use video chat before for a front facing cam on my epic
what phone would u guys choose?
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I'm on Sprint but I work at a Verizon retail store. I've used all the phones. The Droid X2 is not much of any upgrade from the Droid X. It's basically a Droid X without a camera button, and with a dual core CPU. Not really worth it, especially since it has an encrypted bootloader. I really like the Thunderbolt (I have an Evo), but if you're going to play a lot of games, get the Droid Charge. It has the same (or slightly better) CPU that's in the Epic, and the Thunderbolt doesn't quite compare in terms of speed. There's also the LG Revolution, which is Bing'd out, but is still a great phone. Personally, if you're going to be gaming, I say go for the Droid Charge.

i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good

Don't forget that there is more to the phone than fancy hardware. Droid X2 might be nice, but it still runs moto blur, a UI that often is rated as one of the worst ones of Android. I personally remember playing around with the original Droid X at the VZW store months back and the model on display was lagging from menu to menu.
Software > Hardware, at least in most cases.

icebear8 said:
i saw that the droid x2 has a duel core and well my epic has the same cpu as the charge is there a BIG speed difference in these phones? even after root and everything clean from crapware?
i saw the charge is 299$ where the droid x2 is 199$ is it rly worth the 100$ to get a single core cpu? i know the screen is bad ass on the charge but i heard the x2 is pretty darn good
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I won't lie, the latest version of Motoblur on the Droid X / Droid X2 is not bad at all (though a little laggy on the home screen). But the thing has an encrypted bootloader, which means you can't flash custom kernels, which means your ROM selection will be very limited. Also, the Gingerbread update also introduced something retarded: If you root and try to tether without a tethering plan, you will be redirected to a Verizon page to buy the plan every time you try to load a website.
I haven't used the Droid Charge enough to see differences from the Epic other than they use an orange/brown theme instead of blue on the Epic. Also, the Charge has 4G, so you'll be future-proof. On the other hand, the Droid X2 is dual-core so you'll be future-proofed in terms of performance (Android 2.3 and under don't make use of both cores). I'm really not sure how well it compares, or rather WILL compare against the GPU of the Charge, which is hard to beat.
In terms of price, I think the Droid X2 is priced pretty fairly. The Charge on the other hand is a $100 more and, besides HDMI output and 4G LTE, doesn't really add much to your Epic. In the end it's really up to you. You always have 30 days to change the phone. Drop into a Verizon store and try them out. But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.

i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get

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But keep in mind that Quadrant Standard isn't optimized for dual cores and Neocore is optimized for Qualcomm (ie Snapdragon) chipsets.
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Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA

he is talkin about benchmarkn its nothing really just a score on how fast is the phone and stuff but some programs are more into other CPUS then others so give more points to the slower cpu

icebear8 said:
i did forget to add a phone.... the sony xperia play i do play a ALOT of ps1 emualtor on my epic.... how is the xperia play? i mean i forgot it was even out lol im use to the 4inch screen but if its bad ass for games and then that maybe be the phone to get
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I've played with the Xperia play. The good thing about it is that it's mainly stock Android (no skin, but it does have extra Sony Widgets and some crapware). It comes with Crash Bandicoot (the PS1 version) and some Bruce Lee game, among other games. It played pretty smooth, but it only has a 1GHz Snapdragon, so nothing too impressive. If you want a video with a good benchmark, watch this one. It even compares it to other phones (ps the Optimus 2X has a Tegra 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_SyXQtcTmQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s
If you can hold off, the Galaxy S II, which is the most powerful Android phone out right now, will be coming to Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T anywhere from July to August. It's all unofficial as of now, but they're definitely coming because they've been named (AT&T Attain, Sprint Within, Verizon Function).
feralicious said:
Would someone mind explaining to a n00b what the above means? I too am considering the Thunderbolt (or maybe the Evo 3D).
TIA
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Quadrant Standard and Neocore are benchmarking apps used to show the CPU and GPU capablities of a phone. The issue is that neither will give you an accurate result of the raw power of a phone.

Avoid Moto ATM
I used to be a staunch supporter of Motorola phones, but in the last couple years, especially with Android OS, they've been very lackluster to me. I support the phones in our office, and we've got several versions of Motos here that give us all sorts of issues. Its amazing what features that Moto manages to turn off natively that all other phones seem to have, plus they go out of their way to make it difficult to update to custom ROMs, etc.

I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great

icebear8 said:
what phone would u guys choose? also im a root user and love flashing roms
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here. You may not be concerned with 4G now, but it may come to your area before you are allowed to upgrade phones, so that may be worth considering. Also, some of the TB kernels allow overclocking up to 1.92ghz. The DX2 will proly still give better emulator performance, but I'd bet an overclocked Tbolt would emulate better than a stock Droid Charge (an o/c'd Charge would be a different story. Idk if you can even o/c a Charge, I don't follow the Charge threads). The last time I checked the Charge rom dev section, it was pretty sparse. That will change as more devs get their hands on it, but for the moment you can't get flash happy with a Charge. The Charge's amoled screen is freaking gorgeous. There is nothing else like a Samsung amoled. Colors are really vivid & bright and black is *black*, not dark grey like on a lcd. The Charge's battery life is better than the Tbolt too. I don't know much about the DX2 but I do know that if you like playing with custom roms & kernels, the DX2's bootloader will be very frustrating. I have never messed with Moto Blur but the majority of comments I've read about it are not positive. Ultimately it's a matter of tradeoffs & what is most important to you. If you want the best emulator performance & don't mind giving up custom roms, go for DX2. If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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bejahnel said:
I would definitely go with the TBolt, I've had mine for a couple months now and came from a N1 i was using with iWireless and love the TBolt, Rooted and running Gingerbread, everything works great
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I have a Tbolt & I love it. Mainly because (1) it has 4G and (2) the *very* active dev community here.
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If you want an awesome screen & can wait a few weeks for rom development to pan out, get the Charge. If you've gotta have custom roms/kernels *right now* & don't mind lackluster battery life, check out the Tbolt.
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Thunderbolt now or wait for Galaxy S II or Evo 3D?
Will the Bolt be outdated soon with dual processors out now? I'm in no real hurry and can wait a few months so I'm thinking of waiting for Galaxy S II since I've read it is going to be open source now.
In Los Angeles will it matter whether I'm on Sprint or Verizon as far as 4G performance goes? The speed tests I've found are outdated and one listed Verizon as the very worst performing network but they tested in Columbus, OH and people posted that it wasn't an accurate test because of that.

I would go with the thunderbolt, and i just did a few days ago actually. It has the most dev support on here and I hate moto with a passion so the choice was easy for me.
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The Infuse has ruined other phones for me

with it's gorgeous screen and perfect size. I had originally planned just to try this phone out while waiting for the Evo3D to drop. I bought an Evo3D to use side by side for a few days, and I ended up returning the Evo. The 4.3" screen just seems too small after using the 4.5, and the screen just cannot in any way compare.
it's too bad Sammy hardware with HTC software isn't possible....that and I wish Sammy would add physical camera buttons

YES! i know how you feel. i change phones like crazy and well i was using my HD2 the other day, even though there is a .2 difference i find it kinda hard to adapt.

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....that and I wish Sammy would add physical camera buttons
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I completely agree. My last phone had a camera button on it (the button also acted as a shortcut to start the camera as well), and it was hard to get used to not having a camera button with this phone.
However, everything else about the Infuse just about makes up for it .

Well one the revolutionary new features of iOS 5 that Steve Jobs single handedly came up with is using the volume buttons as a physical camera button. I'm sure we could figure out a way to do that, and we can already pinch zoom on the screen as an alternative zoom.

nstong said:
Well one the revolutionary new features of iOS 5 that Steve Jobs single handedly came up with is using the volume buttons as a physical camera button. I'm sure we could figure out a way to do that, and we can already pinch zoom on the screen as an alternative zoom.
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On the i9000/Captivate forums you've been able to use the power button (the volume keys are already mapped to zooming).
I see no reason a similar mod would not work for Infuse.
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Originally planed to get the the infuse 4g until SGS 2 drops in the states. This beautiful 4.5 inche screen change everything. I could not go any lower than 4.5 .
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Dxtra said:
Originally planed to get the the infuse 4g until SGS 2 drop in the state. This beautiful 4.5 inches.screen change everything, I could not go any lower than 4.5 .
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do you guys think that other copanies will start making their screens as the infuse? I remember back in the days, you would be the man if you had the smallest device.

MikeyMike01 said:
On the i9000/Captivate forums you've been able to use the power button (the volume keys are already mapped to zooming).
I see no reason a similar mod would not work for Infuse.
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Yes they are already mapped to zooming but you can also pinch to zoom! Could remap them no problem

I couldn't agree more with the OP. I just don't know if I can try another phone anymore after using the Infuse. I'll be too disappointed

DS1495 said:
I couldn't agree more with the OP. I just don't know if I can try another phone anymore after using the Infuse. I'll be too disappointed
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I agree the screen is just incredible. I saw my nephew's evo 3d today and was underwhelmed by the screen. Odd because i had inspire 4g and thought the screen was fantastic. i guess the infuse's screen has spoiled me.

blazablaz said:
I can relate...
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Tell me about it. Haha, I've gone through over 15 different high end android phones over the past year, and none of them have compared to the Infuse.. especially in terms of battery life running Infused 1.5. Don't have to charge my phone every night!

I agree this screen size this phone period I can't go any lower every time I pick up another phone it feels small and weird
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interesting you like the infuse better, while I agree I didbuse an evo3d and it is much better than I thouht. I love the lock screen, I love the home screen flick scrolling. but it is htc and I hate sense. thouh htc did replace the notification bar with one that has two pages (similar to miui) and some shortcuts. I also did some benchmarks and was both impressed with the open gl and not impressed overall. the qhd resolution will slow the frame rates but it seems the graphics chip has up to 60% more power than ours and it can still get 10-20% better frame rates than our gpu. so the qhd screen doesn't effect the apparent smoothness like it might on the atrix.
now I would never own the phone as it is nand locked (supposedly encrypted this time) and I'm not sure if it will do anything significantly better than anything else. it kills in linpack but that is only a measure of its fpu, just one part of the cpu. I'm not sure how reliable mflops is as a measurement on any modern cpu. you would need to know how much the cpu actually runs floating point in normal operating conditions.
the curious thing is with both these advantages the evo3d gets a mere 1900-2200 in quadrant. that is good out of the box but the atrix does better and the sgs2 kills them both. there is clearly a deficiency or problem somewhere, it may be better to try antutu as a comparison between the dual core chipsets.
this all does make me wonder about any phones not on htc that will have this chip. and also how the chip in the thrill which has our gpu on a dual core will compare. the market is actually getting pretty interesting right now.

I love the 4.5 screen,now if only we can get the screen to go edge to edge on the the galaxy s3 ,and keeping it the same size as the infuse...any bigger is a pain in the pocket!

My wife has the HTC inspire which I can't stand that phone sense makes no sense just like motoblur I've had my captivate since last year and it is truly the best phone since. Samsung finally did something right. I tested the infuse seeing how fast it was I just might make the switch its basically the same phone but the 1.2 ghz will make a big difference. I think Samsung is going to blow everyone out of the water this year.
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the HTC holiday will have a 4.5 screen, 1 GB of RAM, and a 1.2 Ghz processor

cordell507 said:
the HTC holiday will have a 4.5 screen, 1 GB of RAM, and a 1.2 Ghz processor
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1.2 dual core if I'm not mistaken.
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cordell507 said:
the HTC holiday will have a 4.5 screen, 1 GB of RAM, and a 1.2 Ghz processor
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and a locked nand partition. lets see how long it takes to hack.

cordell507 said:
the HTC holiday will have a 4.5 screen, 1 GB of RAM, and a 1.2 Ghz processor
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That however will be a SuperLCD screen and not a self-illuminating Super AMOLED Plus type.
The only screen that will sway Infuse addicts will be one of the upcoming Super AMOLED HD screens for the SG III that will do the qHD resolution. Til then, we stay

(Q) how do you like your skyrocket?

Im currently on the infuse but im gonna be upgrading using my moms upgrade ( ill just buy her a cheap flip phone since thats what she likes ) the skyrocket looks pretty attracting...similar screen, but with alot better hardware
so i have some questions...answer what ever questions you want, i have a basic feel from looking at specs but i want actual user refrences:
1) How smooth does the phone run?
2) how is the devolpment scene?
4) how many custom roms are there-not ports?
5) how do you like lte?
6) whats your favorite part of the phone-what do you hate the most?
7) hows battery life?
8) how much do you think the price will drop once the skyrocket hd is released?
9) would the hd be able to run the same roms with out porting? I know we wont really know until its released but just curious
10) would you recommend this phone to a friend? lol had to ask it
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to answer my questions
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1) How smooth does the phone run? Very smooth, even on stock, but you make it crappy if you have too much going on. As with anything.
2) how is the devolpment scene? It's good considering the new chipset.
4) how many custom roms are there-not ports? Enough to feed addiction, if that's why you're asking.
5) how do you like lte? Don't have LTE in my area so can't say.
6) whats your favorite part of the phone-what do you hate the most? Best part is the screen size, worst part is the screen resolution (alternative is to increase the resolution using DPI apps.)
7) hows battery life? This isn't exactly an objective question, but I've seen ranges from 6 hours - 24 hrs.
8) how much do you think the price will drop once the skyrocket hd is released? Generally the price drops about $50 from contract price. More if it's a promotion.
9) would the hd be able to run the same roms with out porting? I know we wont really know until its released but just curious. You're right so can't say.
10) would you recommend this phone to a friend? If my friend had an infuse, no I wouldn't recommend it because of the new exynos chips that will be coming soon and the S4 chips that are coming. If my friend was impatient and rich enough then yes, I would. If my friend had a large enough hand then I would suggest trying the note first then getting the skyrocket.
Good luck with your decision.
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1) How smooth does the phone run?
Extremely smooth. It's the fastest I've ever owned.
2) how is the devolpment scene?
Excellent. So many options, it just keep getting better and better.
4) how many custom roms are there-not ports?
Too many. I make nandroid back-ups everyday just to try them all out as they're released.
5) how do you like lte?
I live in Michigan and it's neck and neck, sometimes faster than my home cable connection.
6) whats your favorite part of the phone-what do you hate the most?
It hate the lack of stock camera features like zoom, but this can be fixed with roms lol
7) hows battery life?
Sucks on stock rom better keep it on the charger! However, last an entire day with NexusM0D v2.0 installed.
8) how much do you think the price will drop once the skyrocket hd is released?
Never heard of Skyrocket HD, but knowing AT&T it will probably become free with a two-year contract.
9) would the hd be able to run the same roms with out porting? I know we wont really know until its released but just curious
*scratches head*
10) would you recommend this phone to a friend? lol had to ask it
Yep... this or the Droid Razr Maxx (on the more expensive Verizon)

KAMBYTHET said:
It hate the lack of stock camera features like zoom, but this can be fixed with roms lol
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You can zoom in/out with the camera the same way you zoom in/out on a webpage; pull apart the screen zooms in, pinch the screen zooms out. Unless I'm completely mistaken.
This phone is awesome! Definitely the nicest and fastest phone I've ever had.

kr3w1337 said:
10) would you recommend this phone to a friend? If my friend had an infuse, no I wouldn't recommend it because of the new exynos chips that will be coming soon and the S4 chips that are coming. If my friend was impatient and rich enough then yes, I would. If my friend had a large enough hand then I would suggest trying the note first then getting the skyrocket.
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Will the new Exynos chips support LTE? I am thinking about getting the Skyrocket, but one of the things that I was told was that the SR isn't as good as the other SGS2 due to the chips (Exynos being way better than the Qualcomm chips). And how soon? wondering if I should just wait to get that phone or not (Plan on buying a phone within the next 6 months)

KAMBYTHET said:
8) how much do you think the price will drop once the skyrocket hd is released?
Never heard of Skyrocket HD, but knowing AT&T it will probably become free with a two-year contract.
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The skyrocket hd is pretty much the exact same phone as the skyrocket except it has a 720p screen giveing it the hd part of the name...at least from what i can tell
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Will the new Exynos chips support LTE? I am thinking about getting the Skyrocket, but one of the things that I was told was that the SR isn't as good as the other SGS2 due to the chips (Exynos being way better than the Qualcomm chips). And how soon? wondering if I should just wait to get that phone or not (Plan on buying a phone within the next 6 months)
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Don't know the details of the chip sorry. I'd wait till I hear a out SGS3 this year (within 6 months for sure).
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mrl3086 said:
You can zoom in/out with the camera the same way you zoom in/out on a webpage; pull apart the screen zooms in, pinch the screen zooms out. Unless I'm completely mistaken.
This phone is awesome! Definitely the nicest and fastest phone I've ever had.
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Volume controls the zoom!
And I love the phone.. LTE is kick ass where it's available!!
Personally, I think the screen is great. Looking forward to either Dev rom that's asop, or official ICS.
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Just get it!
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1) Very smooth. This is probably the smoothest Android phone I know of next to the Galaxy Nexus.
2) You can go to the development forum and see what's available yourself. In my opinion, it's not so good, but the Skyrocket is still fairly young.
4) N/A
5) It's fine. I don't do anything that really requires that high of a speed, though.
6) My favorite part is its smooth performance. Worst is I hate how I'm constantly losing my place in my browser/apps because they're killed too quick. That's more an Android issue than Skyrocket, though.
7) I'm a superheavy user -- my battery life on the Skyrocket is 5-6 hours. For comparison, I also got roughly 5-6 hours on the Samsung Captivate, 6-7 hours on the old WinMo smartphones, 11-13 hours with the iPhone, and 13+ hours with Nokia Symbian phones.
8) Probably $100-$150
9) N/A
10) Assuming that friend is comfortable with Android, then yes.

mg2195 said:
so i have some questions...answer what ever questions you want, i have a basic feel from looking at specs but i want actual user refrences:
1) How smooth does the phone run?
2) how is the devolpment scene?
4) how many custom roms are there-not ports?
5) how do you like lte?
6) whats your favorite part of the phone-what do you hate the most?
7) hows battery life?
8) how much do you think the price will drop once the skyrocket hd is released?
9) would the hd be able to run the same roms with out porting? I know we wont really know until its released but just curious
10) would you recommend this phone to a friend? lol had to ask it
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to answer my questions
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1-Very smooth
2-I'm kinda new to all this but but i been trying new roms for week now and having fun
3-?
4-Plenty to have fun and fit your style.
5-Now that i have it i cannot live whitout it. Beat my cable internet at home by A LOT.
6-I like the big screen for my big fingers!
7-Depend range from 6-24hours+ depending on use/rom.
8-I dont know but probably free on contract soon.
9-no idea.
10-YES.

KAMBYTHET said:
It hate the lack of stock camera features like zoom, but this can be fixed with roms
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Stock cam zooms with volume rocker...just sayin
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What should I get for my upgrade in January?

My infuse is just about to disintegrate in my hand, it's served its purpose... for a year. I'd love to buy an HTC One X+ with 64GB. I don't know, will anything significant be out by late January next year? I'm thinking about going HTC because I abuse the hell out of my phones and unibody is probably much more durable than Samsung's numerous removable parts/panels. NOT that Samsung is bad.
Another option would be the Note II. The only reason I really want it is the quad core though. I don't feel like only upgrading to a dual core phone when quads are becoming so popular now.
Ideas, thoughts?

I myself am thinking abut switching over to Verizon. I will most likely get the new HTC DNA around December. Could you list more of what you want in a phone? Things like how much processing power do you need, is a large screen a must, are you an avid music listener, and questions of the such. Also, I agree with you on the unibody thing. The infuse back plate does feel flimsy.
Connor Baker

HTC is great for a stock experience and a nice sturdy feeling phone...but if you wanna be flashing ROMs a lot....I'd stick with Samsung
Here is the typical process for rooting an HTC:
1) unlock bootloader
2) fastboot flash a recovery...similar to heimdall/Odin except its done from the terminal or cmd prompt on a computer...no nice easy one click GUI
3) flash a root zip in recovery
***optional but pretty much necessary***
4) s-off the device may require you to unscrew the back part of the phone and use a wire to purposely "short" the phone while a software is running that way it can turn off security while the phone is essentially restarting everything....
Why s-off? If you want to flash a kernel through recovery you need to be s-off. If you want to flash a ROM without a computer you need to be s-off, you can flash the ROM but the kernel inside won't be flashed causing a boot loop until you fast boot flash the kernel...and lastly if you wanna flash a new radio/modem you need to be s-off...so it isn't 100% necessary, but if you're a flashaholic...its a pain if your not s-off
Anyways that's what I hate about htcs...but then again you only need to do the above once...
However I love sense...it has an amazing stock experience....feels nice and smooth with cool animations/transitions. Also I believe the HTC one x+ is also a quad core phone...so if that's the only reason you want the note 2, the x+ should also have a quad core with the classic HTC design quality
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sense is cool as far as some animations but it somehow complicates (or did) the settings menus without adding anything I can think of to android. people love it so what do I know. but sense also have a process limit. things don't stay cached and you need to decompile services.jar (I think) and make some changes to get better multitasking. I think its a stupid decision by htc. the kind of thing apple would do deciding you are too stupid to manage what's running so the manage it for you.
the fast boot thing can get a GUI if someone with java experience (for multi platform compatibility) writes something that basically prints the commands into a prompt and sets some path variables. but command line is really more efficient if you have any typing skills at all. for example explaining heimdal is easier to with command line than the GUI because things in the GUI depend on other things and the explanation of things depends on a good description of where tabs and buttons are and what they say. in command line I can just quote what to type verbatim. its not as easy to teach yourself (but not too bad if you know about man pages) but easier to instruct.

I'm personally waiting for more news on the Sony yuga. Rumored to be a 5" screen quad core running jelly bean. Should know more in January. I was running an xperia rom on my hd2 for awhile and really liked the stock look. I've heard media is pretty good on it too.
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I am waiting for a Smartphone which can be operated through mind. :angel:

I'm going with the note 2 in march for my upgrade. I didn't like how sense felt so I went with the infuse and never looked back. Plus its huge, and has a big battery.
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Maybe wait for the s4. Whenever that will be. I've had my upgrade since last year, kept it to hold onto my infuse because of awesome devs. But I'll use up the upgrade for the s4, if it doesn't have the 5" screen.
Funny that before, manufacturers were competing to make the smallest phone, now it's for the biggest and slickest design
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jayson94538 said:
Maybe wait for the s4. Whenever that will be. I've had my upgrade since last year, kept it to hold onto my infuse because of awesome devs. But I'll use up the upgrade for the s4, if it doesn't have the 5" screen.
Funny that before, manufacturers were competing to make the smallest phone, now it's for the biggest and slickest design
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I'm waiting for the s4....its rumored to be announced (not released) in may last I checked...if it does get announced in may then that will probably be released sometime between June and September...that's just my guess though...I really think that it will be released in the summer though...I hear you on the 5" screen...im gonna be really dissapointed if I hold my upgrade only to find out the s4 has a 5+" screen...I won't want anything that's bigger than the s3...I'm just not a big enough guy for those 5" phones :/
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I'm waiting for the s4....its rumored to be announced (not released) in may last I checked...if it does get announced in may then that will probably be released sometime between June and September...that's just my guess though...I really think that it will be released in the summer though...I hear you on the 5" screen...im gonna be really dissapointed if I hold my upgrade only to find out the s4 has a 5+" screen...I won't want anything that's bigger than the s3...I'm just not a big enough guy for those 5" phones :/
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Yeah that's the only thing that will stop me from getting it. I'll get a note if I wanted a huge phone lol.
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mg2195 said:
I'm waiting for the s4....its rumored to be announced (not released) in may last I checked...if it does get announced in may then that will probably be released sometime between June and September...that's just my guess though...I really think that it will be released in the summer though...I hear you on the 5" screen...im gonna be really dissapointed if I hold my upgrade only to find out the s4 has a 5+" screen...I won't want anything that's bigger than the s3...I'm just not a big enough guy for those 5" phones :/
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yeah. i prefer something sgs2 sized. and by that i mean the international one and the first att one with the exynos. if they can eliminate the edge area and get a big screen on that footprint then ok, but if they can manage a 4.2-4.5" 16/9 screen even at low res on a captivate sized footprint i think it would be ideal. i'll go for a second rate phone with qhd res as long as it's a small footprint and has a decent amount of ram. with all these quad cores out there a decent dual core should start to show up in cheaper phones and there is nothing wrong with any dual cores out there unless it's a tegra2 but i think that thing has pretty much been retired.

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I myself am looking forward to the s4 because my upgrade is in may
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What is good and bad about smartphones (HTC/Nokia) based on Windows Phone 8.

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What is good and bad about smartphones (HTC/Nokia) based on Windows Phone 8.
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Microsoft controls the specs. the phone may be obsolete when the next iteration of windows comes out. there is little variation from phone to phone.
I'm not a fan of the interface. but it has to be better than phone 7. Microsoft fans are still hacking wm 6.1 because 7 has less for running things in the background. I'm pretty sure wp7 was kinda a test to see if people would get the metro interface. maybe 8 will bring back the wm6.1 fans that switched to android out of necessity if 8 improves on some things. but I don't think it'll convert android fans and developers.
from what I've seen at least on tablets you can split the display with different apps on windows 8 but I'm not sure about the phone version. the problem about what I've seen on 8 is there is no visual clues for stuff. some of the gestures look natural but nothing tells you its there. like swiping from the screen edge to bring in the last app or a side bar and such. very learnable and easy but still something you have to learn.

I wasn't eligible for an upgrade until February called customer care and they let me upgrade early to a note 2 and waived all the fees.

Rockamakis said:
I wasn't eligible for an upgrade until February called customer care and they let me upgrade early to a note 2 and waived all the fees.
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How did your conversation go? I'm in the same boat and I'm getting tired of waiting for my upgrade =p
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Question about this phone

Hey Guys,
I had a question about this specific phone, I have been using the myTouch 4G for over 3.5+ years, where I rooted the phone to run CM7.2. I saw this phone on sale for $139.99 and decided to try it out. I have been using it for a few days, it seems fast, but my biggest reason for retiring my original myTouch 4G was because it has been too long and the phone and hardware is basically becoming outdated.
I wanted to clarify, does this phone seem to still have a good life to it? Will there be future updates to install Jelly Bean? I honestly want a phone that will last me a long time (like my myTouch 4G did) and has the same neat features to it too. I am a college student, so I am looking for a solid daily driver at the end of the day to get my job done.
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darkgiant said:
Hey Guys,
I had a question about this specific phone, I have been using the myTouch 4G for over 3.5+ years, where I rooted the phone to run CM7.2. I saw this phone on sale for $139.99 and decided to try it out. I have been using it for a few days, it seems fast, but my biggest reason for retiring my original myTouch 4G was because it has been too long and the phone and hardware is basically becoming outdated.
I wanted to clarify, does this phone seem to still have a good life to it? Will there be future updates to install Jelly Bean? I honestly want a phone that will last me a long time (like my myTouch 4G did) and has the same neat features to it too. I am a college student, so I am looking for a solid daily driver at the end of the day to get my job done.
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This is a great phone. Does it match up against the heavyweights? No, of course not. Will it get official Jelly Bean? No. Samsung quit developing it after 4.0.4. We have cm10, cm10.1, cm10.2, and cm11. There are issues with the builds past cm10, but nothing deal-breaking for me. There are issues with Kitkat, but the amazing devs are working on it and hopefully get those figured out.
If you don't mind rooting (and for this phone it's way easy, imo) and flashing, then there are a lot of excellent ROM's here. If you want official JB, then I would suggest looking elsewhere. I would recommend this phone (it's basically a smaller S2), but I've done a lot to it.

njstein said:
This is a great phone. Does it match up against the heavyweights? No, of course not. Will it get official Jelly Bean? No. Samsung quit developing it after 4.0.4. We have cm10, cm10.1, cm10.2, and cm11. There are issues with the builds past cm10, but nothing deal-breaking for me. There are issues with Kitkat, but the amazing devs are working on it and hopefully get those figured out.
If you don't mind rooting (and for this phone it's way easy, imo) and flashing, then there are a lot of excellent ROM's here. If you want official JB, then I would suggest looking elsewhere. I would recommend this phone (it's basically a smaller S2), but I've done a lot to it.
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Thanks for responding! I really want to love and use this phone for the long run! I guess my only clarification is, is this phone a good long-term phone? I am open to rooting my phone, or am even more open to staying put with the Stock ROM (it doesn't seem to bother me so far...). I obviously want a phone that would last hardware wise, and I figured the dual-core snappy processor would be the biggest nudge, especially for the price range I managed to pick this up fore ($139.99) on Amazon.
Other than that, I think this might be a good phone. To start off, do you have any good recommended daily drivers like ROMs for this phone? Obviously, something fast, and consumes minimal battery life.
Also, since this phone is brand new, would rooting it void my warranty for the device? I had officially rooted my myTouch 4G after two full years (my warranty period was over).

Racing19969's AOKP Jelly Bean rom has been great to me. The only issue I've had is governor settings not sticking after a reboot.
As for the device itsself, battery life is a bit lacking IMO. I get about 10 hours with moderate use. Maybe 12 if I use it only when necessary, & I could kill it in less than 6 if gaming.
Other thing is the USB port is suceptible to damage w/the cable in. I'm on my 2nd warrantee replacement for this.
And finally, yes, rooting any device will void its' warrantee. (though I sent both of my broken ones back stock, but still rooted. No one seemed to notice. Shh!)
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njstein said:
This is a great phone. Does it match up against the heavyweights? No, of course not. Will it get official Jelly Bean? No. Samsung quit developing it after 4.0.4. We have cm10, cm10.1, cm10.2, and cm11. There are issues with the builds past cm10, but nothing deal-breaking for me. There are issues with Kitkat, but the amazing devs are working on it and hopefully get those figured out.
If you don't mind rooting (and for this phone it's way easy, imo) and flashing, then there are a lot of excellent ROM's here. If you want official JB, then I would suggest looking elsewhere. I would recommend this phone (it's basically a smaller S2), but I've done a lot to it.
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All that I would add to this is that if you want official JB and don't want to root and whatnot then you should give the galaxy s light sgh-t399 a look. Often priced at 149 (was this price on newegg recently). Quad core but otherwise similarly spec'd - 4 inch screen, 5mp camera, but the light also has LTE whereas the blaze does not.
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anactoraaron said:
All that I would add to this is that if you want official JB and don't want to root and whatnot then you should give the galaxy s light sgh-t399 a look. Often priced at 149 (was this price on newegg recently). Quad core but otherwise similarly spec'd - 4 inch screen, 5mp camera, but the light also has LTE whereas the blaze does not.
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Would the quad core processor make a giant difference in terms of performance compared to the Blaze? The Galaxy Light is listed as "1.4 GHz Quad Core" versus the Blaze, which is listed as "1.5GHz Dual Core". For a mobile phone, would the difference in performance be very big that I should consider switching? I don't mind spending $149 at all, just another $10 bump. But I wouldn't want to waste my time and money doing it if the performance was very minimal, and really did nothing for me.

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Would the quad core processor make a giant difference in terms of performance compared to the Blaze? The Galaxy Light is listed as "1.4 GHz Quad Core" versus the Blaze, which is listed as "1.5GHz Dual Core". For a mobile phone, would the difference in performance be very big that I should consider switching? I don't mind spending $149 at all, just another $10 bump. But I wouldn't want to waste my time and money doing it if the performance was very minimal, and really did nothing for me.
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I don't think it would be minimal- there should be architectural differences with the newer SoC (the light) beyond just clock speed that will positively impact performance. Having said that, there should be a performance gain with the quad - whether or not you would be able to notice that is really dependent on how you will use your phone. I believe the light's SoC uses smaller transistors (should be 28nm) vs the blaze's 45nm SoC which usually means better battery life (since the screens are the same). In addition, the light has a slightly larger battery (1800 vs the blazes 1750). If you live in an LTE area you shouldn't dismiss the light's LTE capability.
But there is ZERO development on the light now. Not even root. If that matters to you then the blaze would be a better choice. 4.4 is here, and the little issues with 4.4 will soon be worked out by some really cool guys dedicating their time for this community.
If price isn't an issue (over $10) then my recommendation would be this:
If root and development (getting 4.4 and possibly beyond) matter at all to you, then get the blaze.
If you need or want LTE, want a fully functional phone with JB (the barcode camera functionality and speakerphone are all I am aware of not working in the JB roms for the blaze), can live with touchwiz, and want the newer/more powerful/(slightly) better battery life device then get the light.

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I don't think it would be minimal- there should be architectural differences with the newer SoC (the light) beyond just clock speed that will positively impact performance. Having said that, there should be a performance gain with the quad - whether or not you would be able to notice that is really dependent on how you will use your phone. I believe the light's SoC uses smaller transistors (should be 28nm) vs the blaze's 45nm SoC which usually means better battery life (since the screens are the same). In addition, the light has a slightly larger battery (1800 vs the blazes 1750). If you live in an LTE area you shouldn't dismiss the light's LTE capability.
But there is ZERO development on the light now. Not even root. If that matters to you then the blaze would be a better choice. 4.4 is here, and the little issues with 4.4 will soon be worked out by some really cool guys dedicating their time for this community.
If price isn't an issue (over $10) then my recommendation would be this:
If root and development (getting 4.4 and possibly beyond) matter at all to you, then get the blaze.
If you need or want LTE, want a fully functional phone with JB (the barcode camera functionality and speakerphone are all I am aware of not working in the JB roms for the blaze), can live with touchwiz, and want the newer/more powerful/(slightly) better battery life device then get the blaze.
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Just curios, why is there absolutely no development on the light? Speed is not a huge issue for me with the Blaze right now.
In all honesty, I rarely play video games on my phone, I usually use it as a device to keep me synced with my calendar, go on facebook/instagram/snapchat and text people. I use it to call occasionally for a couple of minutes, but other than that, I really am mostly browsing stuff that is about it. I personally dislike gaming on mobile phones (I might play Flow when I get super bored) but seriously, that is about it.
How would you guys consider the camera for the Blaze? I think the front camera is actually much better, right? Also, on the myTouch 4G, there was a little Light blinker for notifs, I realize the Blaze does not have that, but do other smartphones have that as well?
I really like this phone so far, will require some adjusting as I am used to pressing a physical button for the camera to open up, but it is totally fine.
As of right now, it looks like I am geared to sticking with this phone from everyone's suggestions.

darkgiant said:
Just curios, why is there absolutely no development on the light? Speed is not a huge issue for me with the Blaze right now.
In all honesty, I rarely play video games on my phone, I usually use it as a device to keep me synced with my calendar, go on facebook/instagram/snapchat and text people. I use it to call occasionally for a couple of minutes, but other than that, I really am mostly browsing stuff that is about it. I personally dislike gaming on mobile phones (I might play Flow when I get super bored) but seriously, that is about it.
How would you guys consider the camera for the Blaze? I think the front camera is actually much better, right? Also, on the myTouch 4G, there was a little Light blinker for notifs, I realize the Blaze does not have that, but do other smartphones have that as well?
I really like this phone so far, will require some adjusting as I am used to pressing a physical button for the camera to open up, but it is totally fine.
As of right now, it looks like I am geared to sticking with this phone from everyone's suggestions.
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There is no development on the light due to it just being so new. Also, the sub 199 phone market has just had some recent compelling phones enter this segment (the moto g is just one) so anyone who wanted to purchase a sub 199 phone perhaps already has. That's not to say that there will be always no development on the phone, but you are taking a chance if you buy it if you want a phone that has an active development community.
FWIW - I am thinking of picking up the light as a backup (since I gave my blaze to my cousin). If development ever takes off, that phone will be great. If not, if it at least gets root I will be happy with having wifi calling again.
The camera is passable, it's obviously nothing high end. I don't ever use the front camera - I'm just not a 'selfie' kind of person
Not many low end phones have a notification light, so I don't think the light has one either.
The blaze is a great little phone, and with a kick ass dev community, it should be running the latest android for awhile.

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There is no development on the light due to it just being so new. Also, the sub 199 phone market has just had some recent compelling phones enter this segment (the moto g is just one) so anyone who wanted to purchase a sub 199 phone perhaps already has. That's not to say that there will be always no development on the phone, but you are taking a chance if you buy it if you want a phone that has an active development community.
FWIW - I am thinking of picking up the light as a backup (since I gave my blaze to my cousin). If development ever takes off, that phone will be great. If not, if it at least gets root I will be happy with having wifi calling again.
The camera is passable, it's obviously nothing high end. I don't ever use the front camera - I'm just not a 'selfie' kind of person
Not many low end phones have a notification light, so I don't think the light has one either.
The blaze is a great little phone, and with a kick ass dev community, it should be running the latest android for awhile.
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The Samsung Galaxy Light is actually priced for $169.99 (cheapest I found, which was on Amazon). I honestly don't feel like putting up another $30.00 for it, what do you guys think? At the end of the day, my needs seem pretty simple... As of right now ICS is doing me fine, might consider rooting my phone once I do officially get out of school again (most likely Spring break). Thoughts?
I am hoping to keep this phone for at least two years, or even more, as I personally don't "game" or take fancy smancy pictures, other than a couple of Instagram pictures, which are always filtered... (its true! ).

I'm itching for a new phone myself but my Blaze just keeps chugging along with all of the awesome devs kicking out sweet roms. I've got my eye on the N5 for my next phone but I just can't justify shelling out the cash when the Blaze is just fine for my daily needs. If/when the few lingering bugs are work out in the KitKat roms (speaker phone & scanner) I will be in hog heaven!
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Haha, that is great to hear. I am thinking the Blaze will be it, for a low price, I think I got a good bang for the buck.
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Just wanted to say, to say, so far so good with this phone. I think it is official, I will stick with this phone as my new daily driver.
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