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Inspire vs Atrix

I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?

wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
Thoughts?
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Honestly I can't say I'm a fan of pentile screens like the Atrix has. Not to mention I read somewhere(cannot verify accuracy)that the Dalvik VM system on Froyo at the very least does not support multithreading so a dual core won't make any difference yet.
Plus, I have had bad experiences with Moto. I'm pretty happy with HTC so far.

Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.

gtg465x said:
...software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks.
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Yes, this. Very much this.

I really Like HTC to. Don't really care about Sense since I use Launcher Pro. I guess its a matter of wait and see.

wookiebush said:
I just switched back to ATT from Sprint (Evo 4g) and bought the Inspire with the intent of returning it next month when the Atrix comes out.
I seem to, however, really like the Inspire and am wondering if the Atrix is really worth the additional $100. Besides the higher res (yet smaller) screen, why would I change to the Atrix? Sure it has a dual core Tegra2, but Froyo doesn't even use 2 cores so what am I getting?
I know that the Atrix has a locked bootloader but that isn't a huge dealbreaker for me.
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I just did the exact same thing, still waiting for the inspire to arrive though. I came from the Evo and I love HTC products, I think I'll keep it afterall and wait for the next HTC flagship phone.

The Atrix is more future proof than the Inspire with dual core and a gig of ram. Froyo may not take full advantage of dual core, but how about future builds? Gaming will certainly be smoother and with that huge battery I should be able to get through a day of heavy usage. I can't seem to do that with my Inspire unless I turn off most of the things I like about the phone. It's a tough choice, but blur doesn't bother me so I may make the jump.

gtg465x said:
Apps built with the NDK can take advantage of the dual core processor. The processor, resolution, ffc, hdmi, and 1080p recording all sound great, but software is more important to me. The Captivate tought me that. Great hardware doesn't mean crap if the software sucks. Sense is a lot better than Motoblur and the locked bootloader downright sucks. HTC is also slightly better about updating their software. Oh, and the dock and laptop are a complete ripoff.
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Quoted for troof. HTC is the manufacturer who seems to get it right.

It looks like the difference that the inspire has a .3 inch bigger/lower resolution screen screen, 8GB less memory, higher MP camera (8MP), has digital compass, has HTC sence (maybe better than momto blur?), has fm radio.
I guess it just depends on what features are important to you. My only real question is about the insire's FM radio. Is it actually functioning out of the box or did att disable it?

Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.

Androidude said:
Go over to the development threads and check out all of the Roms for the Inspire. Then immediately leave because the Atrix will never have that good of a development community. Crippled software on overpowered hardware will never be as good as quality/variety of software on perfectly capable hardware. Dual core isn't standard yet and the benefits of it have yet to be implemented effectively. When we're running custom roms of the next Android update with an optimized kernel, the Atrix will be stuck waiting for an official update with nothing more than a glorified theme.
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I just exchanged my Atrix for an Inspire yesterday.
After rooting and unlocking, adding CM7 and the 1.8Ghz kernel, I can say with 100% confidence that I made the right choice switching.
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
I think everyone over there in the Atrix forum is coming to the conclusion that their phones will probably never see an unlocked bootloader, and are jumping ship because of it.

mburris said:
Although the screen on the Inspire is lower resolution, it looks amazing, much more so than that of the Atrix.
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^This.....I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so. I think the Atrix display looks horrible. I continually ponder how more people don't make mention of it. I came from a Captivate (which I still have) and the Inspire before I tried the Atrix and its quality leaves A LOT to be desired.
I still have both devices. And I had decided to return the atrix once or twice but cannot pull the trigger because of the hardware. Everything else, is better on the inspire. I feel like I have to force myself to like the Atrix. I've given it a try (a day's run) and each time I went back to the inspire. Hm, I'll see how it plays out.
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire

I am extremely confident with my decision to get the inspire. I love the screen and man this thing is fast. Even though the atrix has better specs I really think that the inspire, once rooted and oc'ed is way faster. I pop in to the atrix forums once in a while and it just solidifies my confidence that I got the right phone. Everyone over there is complaining about one thing or another, which wouldnt be that big of deal because Android is so customizable, but that isnt the case with MOTO because of the locked bootloader. Also who really wants to have to wait for official updates? Especially from companies like MOTO and Samsung. I am happy.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for a phone that under-performs but looks great on a stat sheet - Atrix is for you. I had nothing but hate for that phone after just 3 days of using it. Its sluggish, the UI is clunky, animations were horribly slow.
Inspire has a far better screen believe it or not. It has no pixelation that I can even see (atrix had a ton) and the colors are far far far more accurate. The atrix couldnt even do the color yellow.
Atrix - 2/10 stars
Inspire - 9/10

So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?

jamespaulritter said:
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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I haven't experienced this.
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire

jamespaulritter said:
So far on the att website users averaged give both phones 4 out of 5. I have weighed the pros and cons after playing with both of them for about an hour and believe I will go with the inspire for its 4.3 inch screen, faster and more accurate acquisition of GPS during my tests, 8MP camera, FM radio and good old HTC hardware.
I did notice an issue with the inspire that I was playing with where the pull down screen that shows running or recently launched programs was slow to drag left and right. Anyone else notice this?
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Using RCMixHD and have no issue with this, its super slick and smooth.
You might want to take the custom Rom route anyways to maximize the performance and features of the phone.
Sent from my most memorable Inspire 4G

Does the inspire have any sort of tv out capabilities
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had atrix for 3 days and for all 3 days tried to full my self i like the phone... nope didnt work. second day into.. dead pixels exchanged to find screen off to the left and actually twisted another one and the same problem, overall the qhd screen is horrible just go ahead and search something in google and look at the smaller text you'll see the pixels are missing . motorola screwed this one completely ; the phone really feels like was put together in some tiny village in 3th world country. side by side inspire feels smoother faster ( ain't no joke) and with iphone build quality.the last feature got my girlfriends attention and trust me she's one of this iphone4 owners that no matter what point you'll make that makes android shine vs iphone she'll tell ya i don't care. and i dont care if the atrix is better with games , pointless feature if u ask me... ill stick with my ps3 for real gaming experience. would be nice to have hdmi out and louder speaker otherwise thats pretty much what's missing. inspire much better phone.

G2X to Sensation

Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly. The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
Build Quality:
They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
Screen:
The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
Volume:
This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.

m918v said:
Ok, here's my opinion and comparison between the two, which I waited two weeks handling the sensation before posting.
The G2X was awesome without its fault the first couple days I had it. It was fast and reliable, simple to its core running the stock froyo. I miss the G2X to tell you guys the truth, and would have kept it if issues were solved, but I really couldn't wait months before an update are sent out. Even if updates are sent out it is still a gamble whether or not it will function the way it should. Paying a premium price for a phone should get you a near flawless device that should keep you happy for atleast a year or two, and shouldn't give you so much hassle that you can't use it due to bootloop for a whole day while you are out.
The HTC Sensation, so far, is working flawlessly . The lag people are talking about is pure nonsense. If you do remove most of the widgets that is running when you first turn on the device it should work without any lag, and people shouldn't really have that much widgets running.
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They are pretty much the same here. The G2X does feel more plasticky in the back, but it didn't really annoy me. The only thing about the sensation I didn't like are the power and volume buttons. They look like they will fall off any minute compared to the G2X which looked solid.
Screen:
The screen on the G2X does pop out more compared to the Sensation, but the resolution fares much better like it should on the latter device. I have to say the screen on the Sensation is amazing even under the sunlight. The only annoyance I have is that you have to go under settings to turn on the automatic dimmer because it is not on the power widget. Browsing the web is also better on the Sensation since you can see more with higher resolution. I have not experienced any of the issues they have posted such as dust, and touch sensitivity. Comparing to the G2X the touch sensitivity fares better on the sensation. I remember that sometimes I had to swipe the unlock button twice on the G2X, but haven't had that issue on the Sensation. The new sense UI is cool, that's all and will give you entertainment for 5mins.
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This is where I saw a really big difference. The G2X is far superior when it comes to the sound of the loudspeaker. I can hear the sensation's notifications just fine, but with the G2X I can hear it without any problem from another room and I can't say the same thing with the HTC. For this amount I would expect HTC to fit a better speaker, although, it doesn't annoy me since I usually have my phone on vibrate.
I like the Sensation, and I think that it is a superior quality to the G2X. Although, I do miss my G2X too.
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This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...

As a person who went from a G2X to a Sensation I agree with pretty much everything you say. I think you got the Sharp panel for your display which is why you think the G2X pops more. The AUO panel found in done Sensations is super bright with vibrant colors that pop almost as much as a Super AMOLED. I have handled 4 Sensations and trip of them have been laggy due to the person keeping the UI animations, weather animation and a HTC widget on every page. The Sensation I have only has the click widget with 4 pages worth of icons and it is buttery smooth.
Tell me if you notice a difference in these areas.
-App speed: I have found that most apps load and interact faster on the Sensation such as Google Maps which loads and zooms twice as fast than it does on the G2X.
-Flash Videos: Play smoother on the Sensation.
-Contacts app: Scroll faster than on the G2X which would stutter a little bit. Also my contacts pictures on my G2X would take a second to load when scrolling but they are instantly there as I scroll on the Sensation.
-Display: After looking at the Sensation for a couple days, do the icons and peters look fuzzy on the G2X?
All in all. I think once we get the Sensation rooted and this bloatware off of it, this phone will be a super beast.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

smashpunks said:
This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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jrwingate6 said:
I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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I am curious about this. The unit I played with look like garbage compared to my G2x. The contrast was horrible on the Sensation. Washed out blacks and poor visibility in sunlight. I was not aware there are two different panels available. Is there a manufacturing date to look for? How can you tell before you purchase if you are getting the good panel?

jrwingate6 said:
I don't think I could ever go back to any device with a resolution less then QHD. I looked at the G2X last night and the icons/letters looked fuzzy.
If you display isn't better than the G2X's then try returning it for one with a AUO panel which almost pops as much as Super AMOLED. You probably have the Sharp panel.
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I didn't really say that the display is bad compared to the G2X. The only reason I say this is because I was looking at the display through maybe 60-75% brightness to save battery, plus I don't want to get blinded. Full brightness then yes sensation does look really good.

Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.

cenwesi said:
Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly

m918v said:
And you dont have 2.3 because...? exactly
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comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...

regP said:
comparing an official 2.3 build to a leaked/incomplete version isn't exactly fair.. Even comparing to CM wouldn't be because it isn't even in RC yet. just saying...
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i know. waiting for that update is what urged me to switch

cenwesi said:
Are you guys for REAL. Comparing Apples to Orange. First off, G2x runs android 2.2.2 and Sensation runs 2.3 if memory serves me right. So any comparison you guys where doing should have stopped right there not to mention one is stock vs non stock interface.
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Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.

smashpunks said:
This is basically my experience. G2x would have been awesome minus bugs, I couldn't wait to find out if they would be fixed. I did that for the vibrant and never again will I..
Sensation is just more reliable... Camera and video camera eat up g2x, I agree the screen on g2x is better looking. No lag on sensation either...... G2x is pimp, but I think reboots are hardware....sensation it is for me. Id come back if the phone was fixed and with gingerbread...
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What did you do with your G2x?
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jrwingate6 said:
Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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jrwingate6 said:
Isn't the Snapdragon vs. TegraII Apples to Oranges?
Isn't 768mb vs 512mb of RAM Apples to Oranges?
Isn't a CPU clocked at 1.2 vs 1.0 Apples to Oranges?
Fact of the matter is not two devices are alike and they people will always compare Apples to Oranges. Just because both devices are running on 2.3 doesn't mean they can be compared then. There will still be other differences so I I don't ever see a Apples to Apples test.
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Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.

player911 said:
Well sure, we can compare iOS to Android... but with Android, there are lots of optimizations in GB could make a big difference in numbers.
A good test is Stock G2x and Stock Sensation (2.2.2 vs 2.3.3) just as a good base. The true test comes when both are running official versions of the same software (2.3.3 vs 2.3.3).
GPU Accelerated OS parts aren't even included until GB so the G2x should feel faster on GB.
Even a G2x CM7 test wouldn't be fair because while they are on the same OS, CM has always had lower numbers (for some reason).
CM7 on Sensation and G2x would be a perfect test.
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Agree. The best comparison for me is both phones right out of the box since we can't get apples to apples until GB is released for G2x.

Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.

greengoldmello said:
No offense, but it seems that you are quite enamored with the sensation. You post the exact same thing in the threads of the two, and what I'm wondering is since love your sensation so much, why hang around here with our "inferior" g2xs?
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I am enamored with the Sensation and I will be enamored when the Hercules gets released. I still play with my G2X and still do like it. There are some games I can't play on my Sensation that I love playing on the G2X and I still use the G2X to get my hack on.
Just because I extensively used both devices side by side (unlike most of the people here) and decided that the Sensation was the better all around device due to a number of reasons doesn't mean I don't like the G2X anymore and for that matter doesn't mean I don't use it anymore.
I have already stated the things the G2X does better than the Sensation. If those reasons were enough to use it as my main device then I would return the Sensation in a heart beat as I am not tied to either one. I understand some people are tied to the G2X and will defend it until there contract runs out but quite frankly, I could give a two ****s less about defending devices just because I own them. The things I think the G2X does better might be important to you and that's why you choose to use it. The categories the Sensation does better in are more important to me and is why I use it as my daily driver.
Bottom line. I still use my G2X and my Nexus S for that matter every day and until I stop using them, I will not stop browsing there respected forums.
By the way. I guess you didn't see my post yesterday saying good things about the G2X...uh?

DECIM8 said:
Why does it HAVE to be apples to apples?
I have a T-mobile contract for another 6 months. I want the best phone on that T-mobile contract I can get. I am going to compare every T-mobile phone to every T-mobile phone and choose the best one for me. Its about comparing one device that is available to you to another device that is available to you. If I can root it and load a custom ROM on it to make it better I will consider that as best I can in my decision making... because it is available to me. Also, if something changes about a device and makes it a better option later on I will have to weigh that and consider switching because what is available to me changed.
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+1 my friend. This is exactly how I feel. When it comes down to it. NOTHING is going to be apples to apples. It's always oranges in the mobile world and people have an excuse for everything. Compare the available devices no matter what kind of fruit they are and just go with it.

I will say I honestly love both devices. I had 2 g2x's and my daughter has one. I traded one of them in a trade for a sensation and the 2nd one I had sent back to LG for repair(should be here friday) I will admit I do miss my G2X a bit. I'm looking forward to getting my other one back and restoring it to the way my other one was before I traded it off

I hate sense that's y sensation sucks
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Anyone upgrading to mytouch 4G slide ?

It looks promising with awesome camera and dualcore

it seems too small for me, and motoblur gets more and more disappointing each release :/
the camera seems nice, but 1 feature isnt enough to turn me...if anything, im waiting for the hercules
also, while there was a time when i exclusively used hardware keyboards, they just seem unecessary these days, and i prefer a thinner profile on 4.3"4.5" screen

sofia-captivate said:
It looks promising with awesome camera and dualcore
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nope, cant go back to a smaller screen and lower res after having a 4.3 inch Qhd, hell my g2x 4" screen seems small to me now(and I thought 4.3 would be too big for me at first) also as much as I love a physical keyboard they reported it's pretty heavy and thick. So just because the camera software is better (which I'm sure we will get a port when we can) and it has a keyboard doesnt mean it's an upgrade as you put it. I would say it's more of a downgrade than an upgrade IMO hehe It's got the same amount of ram and same speed processor as the sensation as well.

graffixnyc said:
nope, cant go back to a smaller screen and lower res after having a 4.3 inch Qhd, hell my g2x 4" screen seems small to me now(and I thought 4.3 would be too big for me at first) also as much as I love a physical keyboard they reported it's pretty heavy and thick. So just because the camera software is better (which I'm sure we will get a port when we can) and it has a keyboard doesnt mean it's an upgrade as you put it. I would say it's more of a downgrade than an upgrade IMO hehe It's got the same amount of ram and same speed processor as the sensation as well.
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i agree 100%, the app WILL be ported days after the phone is released (thanks moto for unlocked bootloader ;P) and this is the real benefit to this phone, the camera hardware is practically the same as S4G/SGSII

Solidus_n313 said:
it seems too small for me, and motoblur gets more and more disappointing each release :/
the camera seems nice, but 1 feature isnt enough to turn me...if anything, im waiting for the hercules
also, while there was a time when i exclusively used hardware keyboards, they just seem unecessary these days, and i prefer a thinner profile on 4.3"4.5" screen
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Umm isn't it an HTC phone? It's running Sense 3.0
Anyway, I'd really like the camera they put in there, but on the Sensation.

Umm....since when is the mt4g slide made by Motorola with blur....? It's an HTC device running Gingerbread with Sense 3.0. Also, it has a better camera lense for a wider viewing angle.
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hahaha my bad, im 7 hrs into a loooong 10 hr shift @ work, getting my hardware confused

Solidus_n313 said:
hahaha my bad, im 7 hrs into a loooong 10 hr shift @ work, getting my hardware confused
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motorblur? sense 3.0? wth? I was under the impression the mt4gs was shipping with iOS5!!

considering almost all of the new features in iOS5 are stolen from android, that actually wouldnt surprise me
EDIT: off-topic my bad...continue

As someone who upgraded to the Sensation from the MT4G, I'll pass on this one. With a smaller, lower resolution screen, as well as appearance that's almost identical to the MT4G, this is certainly not an upgrade. Taking into consideration what's already been stated about the camera software, the Sensation is a better phone. Moreover, why downgrade from Sense 3.0 (which I happen to love) to mySense?

No way.I love my sensation.
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You can't upgrade from a Sensation to a myTouch 4G Slide.....thats a downgrade.....well in my opinion anyways!

Now that Sensation got S-off...should I keep my sgs2?

I always loved N1 and DHD for the Sense UI and overall quality, I didn't buy a Sensation because mainly of root,death grip,speaker ringtones and screen under sunlight...
Ok!
Now that it finally got root (thanks for the devs) I still don't know if the other things can be dealt with:
-Death grip occur in which situations? putting the phone on the table will kill wifi?
-Can you ''really'' boot the volume of ringtones via volume+,Equaliser or DSP? or the results are the same as on N1 and DHD meaning just a high treble sound?
-I have read VERY DIFFERENT reports about the screen lisibility under sunlight, my ex-DHD was pratically not usable between 11am and 3pm outdoor, I know sgs2 can do better than Sensation but is it miles better or slightly better?
Of course people who used both phones (sgs2 and Sensation) can have the best answers

I have a sgs2 now and will be getting the sensation on wednesday. I will pm you on how both compares, if I post here it will turn into a flame thread in no time
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In answer to your deathgrip question, for me at least, putting in the phone on a table does not kill WiFi. Even putting it on something squishy like a cushion or pillow doesn't kill it Only covering it with your hand kills it really, and who holds their phone like that? That said, it is a slight problem when you hold it in landscape mode

Hey redbull good to see you again!
Did you try a speaker hacking tool like DSP manager? The result is the same as on N1 speaker?
And what about the camera compared to N1,DHD or even Arc?
I hate the pink camera spot on my sgs2, it was also there on DHD but when viewing it on PC it went off...but not with the sgs2 photos (its permanent)

Yeah, good to see you too!
The camera is quite good. No pink spot or anything, which is nice. One thing I have noticed, that when you zoom in, the pictures go slightly blurry. Not sure if this happens on other HTC's, but it's definitely apparent on my Sensation, at least. Could be software; I hope so, because then the CyanogenMod camera app will fix it
I'll try out a speaker hacking tool and report back

OK, so I've tried Audio Manager and Volume+ FREE and both appear to work fine. I've only used the free version of the apps, so you may want somebody who's bought the apps to try too Especially Volume+, with the EQ Settings in the paid version.
EDIT: Just tried Equalizer and that works too

Oh another thing that's annoying on sgs2: there is a lag between when you press the wake button and the screen going on.
Some dudes said it's normal since it's a dual cpu phone, is it the case with Sensation?

vegetaleb said:
Oh another thing that's annoying on sgs2: there is a lag between when you press the wake button and the screen going on.
Some dudes said it's normal since it's a dual cpu phone, is it the case with Sensation?
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Not that I know off. Right now I have CRT-Screen Animation On, because I'm waiting for mike1986 to make one with just the off animation. But as far as I know, there's no lag between pressing wake and it actually waking it up

I wonder how many people sawped their SGS2 to Sensation without any regrets...

kirdroid said:
I have a sgs2 now and will be getting the sensation on wednesday. I will pm you on how both compares, if I post here it will turn into a flame thread in no time
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just post results here, I for one got me a new sgs2, and have ti decide wether keeping it or not aswell.
grtz

For everyday usability i would go for the sensation
i am not bothered if the sgs 2 can load an application a split second faster
Sensation: beutifully designed, aluminium, Sense 3D, Higher resolution
SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution

yea aluminium is good but promotes death grip and what about the volume button falling off?

ikhzter said:
For everyday usability i would go for the sensation
i am not bothered if the sgs 2 can load an application a split second faster
Sensation: beutifully designed, aluminium, Sense 3D, Higher resolution
SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution
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Posts like that can start a flame war, be careful
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

I've always been a Sensation lover but I'll tell you what I feel honestly after using both the phones.
The Sensation is GREAT! It's my baby! The build quality is just perfect! Although the Gorilla glass isn't that powerful as compared to say Galaxy S's or Galaxy S2's I'm pretty sure about that. Other than that, the physical appearance and build quality is the best I guess! HTC excels in physical looks.
The Galaxy S2 is well, quite nicely designed but the quality .. Meh! Plastic? Seriously? Not good. What if it drops from the stairs or something, it'll break.
So we know that Sensation wins in the physical category.
Performance : You may be knowing that the Galaxy S2 is the fastest phone in the world. Well yes, I agree. But the prebuilt UI, touchwiz, is PATHETIC. It's probably the worst company rebuilt UI ever. Even LG's UI sucks. Sensation has sense 3.0 and it's AMAZING BUT if you will be flashing custom ROMS, I'd recommend the Galaxy S2. Galaxy S2 has a much better Dev support according to me as MANY devs have got it for free and many bought it as it's the fastest phone. Although I think Sensation can still beat it in many aspects.
So I'd go for the S2 in this category.
Hardware :
It is been told that the Sensation's hardware is much better as it is 2011's latest technology whereas the Galaxy S2 uses a 2009 or 08, I don't know chip. Although we can clearly see Galaxy S2 beats the Sensation in benchmarks results about which I really don't care. The Galaxy S2 has an nvidia Tegra 2 processor so that means you can get nvidia tegra games from the nvidia tegra marketplace or whatever it's called and SERRRRRRIOUSLY those games are AMAZING.
Other than that : Samsung vs. HTC? .. Umm, HTC DUH'UH.
About service center help and support : I'll go with Samsung (India)
About software update support : HTC, anyday. (So what if the bootloader is unlocked, they are working on it).
Both the phones are great.

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Hardware :
It is been told that the Sensation's hardware is much better as it is 2011's latest technology whereas the Galaxy S2 uses a 2009 or 08, I don't know chip. Although we can clearly see Galaxy S2 beats the Sensation in benchmarks results about which I really don't care. The Galaxy S2 has an nvidia Tegra 2 processor so that means you can get nvidia tegra games from the nvidia tegra marketplace or whatever it's called and SERRRRRRIOUSLY those games are AMAZING.
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SGS2 doesn't have tegra 2 chip, it comes with samsung's own exynos chip.
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I just switched from SGS2 to Sensation and so far more then happy. No more games crashing, no more color banding, no more pink spots on photos, no more stupid home button/wake lag, no more phone overheating, no more plastic feel, no more crappy music quality, no more Samsung in my life. Ever.

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SGS2 doesn't have tegra 2 chip, it comes with samsung's own exynos chip.
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Aaaaaaaaah okay my bad! how come it runs tegra games?

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I just switched from SGS2 to Sensation and so far more then happy. No more games crashing, no more color banding, no more pink spots on photos, no more stupid home button/wake lag, no more phone overheating, no more plastic feel, no more crappy music quality, no more Samsung in my life. Ever.
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haha happy to know! Enjoy the sensation! Just wait for cm7!

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Aaaaaaaaah okay my bad! how come it runs tegra games?
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Not a game player, but I guess with the help of open gl driver? Look for chainfire 3d App in market.
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SGS2: UGLY! PLASTIC, Touchwiz (****wiz more like), lower resolution
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6MM people would disagree with you.

What am I missing - Galaxy SII

I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.

Dual core
1 gig of ram
It's only slightly smaller - actually feels better in your hand.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 from the carrier
Better GPS lock
I'm still wondering if it has the chip needed for voodoo sound though...

It's not a huge difference but you get gingerbread out the box, touchwiz 4.0, dual core, 1080p recording, hdmi(infuse as well), thx soluscado totally slipped my mind, etc. The infuse is ok but i'm probably getting rid of mine. The checkered loading is driving me crazy.

I agree with the OP. The dual core proc seems like a "meh" addition, especially considering the battery trade-off. I just don't use TouchWiz anyway, so that's irrelevant. The bigger screen is a BIG deal to me, and any video I take with my phone is displayed on my phone, so 1080p recording is irrelevant. I'm pretty sure you get HDMI out on the Infuse as well, but I have no use for that either. And the Gingerbread enhancements are so minor (to me) that I really couldn't care less whether it's available OOB or not.

crawlgsx said:
I don't get what I am so suppose to be in love with when it comes to the SII vs Infuse 4g.
Now I am strictly comparing the US Specced SII (european I suppose as well since it is the same) vs Infuse 4g.
The infuse has a bigger screen and bigger battery.
The S2 has dual core and a small battery and smaller screen.
So I am going to get dual core eating monster with a smaller battery? Battery life on the Infuse is OK, good, but nothing crazy. The S2 must be awful?
Now if we were getting the 1.5ghz dual core with some form of LTE I could see a little more attraction.
personally though I'll be olding off for something better.
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What you said.

Yea no point. I'll stick with my infuse until samsung releases an lte phone on att like ours or the s2. Or wait for googles next phone and hope that is lte as well.
Dual core is not enough reason to upgrade, I want real 4g speeds.
Infuse running Serendipity VII

If the GPS chip is better than that of the infuse then I'm switching. I use the GPS more than anything else on the phone and that is a deal breaker for me. If the infuse had a perfect working GPS, I'd take it over the s2 anyday.
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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The battery life on the sgs2 i don't thinks all that bad. The battery.2 inch screen difference i hardly notice, gb is awesome. Mines yet to show any sign of lag at all. I haven't even touched the infuse since i got the sgs2. Once gb comes out ill use it. Until then though ill stick with gb and my dual core .
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Lol but auto text on it is a total fail.... Hopefully you guys understand.
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I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?

teiglin said:
I know this topic has come up a few times in the month or so I've owned my infuse and watched these forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering if it's worth the switch to the AT&T-branded SGSII. Honestly the thing I'd have wanted most from the European SGSII was the physical Home button, but that didn't make it over here (needs more patent litigation).
I do agree that the .2" off the screen is actually a bonus; 4.3" screens feel a lot nicer when using to chat--somehow the AT&T SGSII is more than .2" off in both dimensions (4.96" x 2.60" vs. 5.2" x 2.8" according to Samsung). Still, a fifth of an inch either way isn't a deal-breaker for me either way.
The dual core SGSII processor is obviously the big difference, and I have yet to see anyone post a compelling, non-anecdotal reason to have a second core on a phone. I don't know many people who have felt their Infuse was insufficiently responsive, and no game I've run has had any noticeable lag on the Infuse, though my experience is hardly extensive.
Does anyone know how much RAM the AT&T SGSII has? If it had the full gig that the Euro version has, that'd also be a nice bonus, as I have managed to fill up the sub-half-gig that the Infuse has available.
The last feature I think deserves mention is NFC, which the ATT SGSII does have, reportedly. Not that I really expect to be paying by NFC any time soon, but what are we if not nerds who want more features on our phones?
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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though

I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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dajeoo said:
I wouldn't bet on better GPS lock
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Mine is def a netter lock then on my infuse.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.

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looks like 512 ram NOT 100% sure though
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It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.

MikeyMike01 said:
It's 1GB of RAM total, and like 800 MB for the user.
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If its anything like the Euro version it has 839mb ram for the user.
And I agree Mikey it is probably the best Android phone out there!

Do we know if its ddr2 ram? What about the i/o tech? That LG is dual something or other.
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There isn't a single thing that the Infuse beats the SGS II in. It ties in a few places like camera, but that's it. The SGS II is the best Android phone in existence, and the Infuse probably wouldn't have even been the best of 2010.
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I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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tazbo28 said:
I don't think i can agree with that. I havent yet used one, but i cam say that having the largest and brightest display on the market is a huge plus for me. Regardless of whether it may seem like a better deal, i feel that the sgs2 is basically a smaller infuse. It looks the same and does all the same things. Really can't count gb as a plus either since we already have it on the infuse and an official version by the time the sgs2 is readily available to most. I can't see any advantage to 1080p either since it will just eat up more of that inferior battery. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010? you meant 2011? even if that was so i find that hard tp believe also. Considering that feature for feature, the Infuse was the best overall android device you could buy here in the U.S. when it was released. That said, the only real reason the Infuse hasn't out sold the competition is the lack of hype behind it and a very quiet release by Samsung. Quite unlike the sgs2 which is released first in their most local market. It obviously is pointed towards the more general technophile audience. The infuse i feel was directed towards the huge media phone freaks.
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Report back after you have held and used one!
you will see the difference for sure
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Edit: on top of all that, i don't know why u said 2010?
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I said 2010 on purpose. That's where single core Froyo phones belong.