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[Misc] future of android.

Would like to start a general discussion here.
Would it be a good idea if Google only use android on their own ( Motorola) hardware?
Take this as current state and not the changes in ice cream.
Currently android is a mess 6 versions of the the os in the market.
Three main ones app makers have to support.
I love aosp so I use cm7 as I missed the nexus one and the nexus s didn't have an SD card.
I have tried touchwiz on a galaxy s. Sense on a hero and desire HD. Motoblur on a dext and defy.
They add nothing all they do is slow down the phone and updates.
Why do company's feel the need to add old ui's ( most are ported from older model phones)
Something I miss from my iphones was updates on all devices as the same time, no waiting around for a manufactor to mess around with it,then a network to spoil it even more, then for me to get it after a slow roll out.
So maybe android needs to take a look at ios and think why do app devs like it more? Why do normal users like it more?( XDA users are not normal users)
I would like one of three things to happen.
1- all android phones are aosp.
2- added UI are installable as an option not bundled into the phone.
3- Google to only release phones for purity.
Would like to see peoples thoughts on this.
And also if you like a UI why do you like it? what do you think it adds?
I repair things I am not a writer so hope its coherent enough to get the jist.
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HTC, Samsung, Moto, etc... they put those UIs on to dumb down the OS. Make it simple. Simple sells.
Simple UI plus a Powerful OS = great sales!

But sense adds even more settings and more to the lockscreen more everything.
Motoblur seems to need a blur account then you need your Google account for market.
Not that simple to me.
Touchwiz just seems to change things not add or take away.
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All of those make it simple. How do you add to the lock screen on stock Android?

vetvito said:
All of those make it simple. How do you add to the lock screen on stock Android?
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You can't on stock its a simple unlock or mute
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What makes apple so "great" in most customers eyes is the simplicity. I love android just for the fact that there are so many ways time customize it it's ridiculous. Example: apple had to release almost 5 generations of the iPhone just to try to keep up with the android.
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aurgerman said:
Example: apple had to release almost 5 generations of the iPhone just to try to keep up with the android.
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Not sure I agree with that.
Android only really took over apple when android got to 2.2( not everyone even has that yet)
Ios is very rock soil and before ios4 didn't really crash on me. I have only started noticing problems since ios4.
And with the customization with our phones there is a limit to what you can theme on stock rom without root.
Installing cydia on ios devices you get loads of themes and changes some of them are even better then android visually.
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Are you sure ^ ? 2.2 - 2.3 is on 85% of Android devices right now.

Let's keep in mind that all these companies need to distinguish themselves from their competition. Consider all the competing phones based on, say, the ARM A8 platform. With similar core hardware under the hood running the same underlying OS, the interface is simply the best place to make a given model noticeably distinct to the average consumer.
Google may not be thrilled with platform fragmentation, but I'd wager that the various royalties / licensing fees / brand recognition opportunities / whatever more than make up for it. Going full-turtle would be bad business. Just my 2 cents...
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iammodo said:
3- Google to only release phones for purity.
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Coming soon from Google: AryanOS, locked down tighter than **** Cheney's butthole to guarantee purity!
/Godwinned
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vetvito said:
HTC, Samsung, Moto, etc... they put those UIs on to dumb down the OS. Make it simple. Simple sells.
Simple UI plus a Powerful OS = great sales!
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So true.
Also, Google, Moto, Sammy, and HTC don't fight back enough with carriers, mainly Verizon, against bloat. Verizon would probably say "To hell with Android then" if they did, since they don't have as much leverage as the iPhone and Apple.
Jazz is also right. If every manufacture had stock on their phones, you wouldn't know which to choose since there would be no difference. Only buyers, like us, that actually care about the speed of a phone, and the ram and rom and all that jazz would know the differences, but average users wouldn't. Hell, my sister, who is only 21, doesn't understand the difference between a Droid and an Android phone, she assumes that every phone that runs Android is a Droid...like my aunt's Evo. (lol)
I actually like Sense, especially Sense 3.5. I think it makes Android look a little nicer, especially if you don't want to root or use custom roms. Touchwiz is also kinda nice, but it's really just the launcher that is changed. Blur is a piece of doodoo though. Can't even install the Facebook app onto my X2 because of Blur's useless Facebook integration that works like hell. Tells me everything I don't want to know, and nothing that I do.
I seriously don't see the point of bloat anyways. If the app is already installed on my phone and I never use it, what is the difference between that and it not being on my phone entirely. If I wanted the dang app, I would've clicked the Verizon tab in the market and downloaded VCast or VMusic. Best answer is probably that Verizon has some stupid person in HR or whatever deciding on what is preinstalled on the phone, instead of the actual consumer. (Then again, I don't see the point in a Facebook phone as well..)

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Its like looking into a time machine , i remember iOS3 & 4 when it was as simple as jailbreak.me man it used to be so easy :/

Ordered a HTC One S... cancelled.

First, Apple are suing the hell out of Android so it probably won't last long anyway
Now no flash support either?? One of the only things Android had over Apple is gone.
Might as well just get a phone that does the same thing and looks much better (instead of every Android phone just getting bigger and uglier)
P.S. this doesn't go without a big F**K YOU to Adobe as well :good:
Edit: okay, I can't bring myself to buy any Apple product other than an OG iPod, so I might just get a Nokia 3310...

They won't be able to do much outside the US where the patent system isn't so messed up. I'm sure Android will live, but if not in the US, then imported. Although I doubt it will die in the US anyways.
Also, you must have lived under a rock for a very long time. Adobe Flash is an extremely old technology. It is a 19 year old goddam technology and its STILL being updated! This is just a small part of the transition to HTML5
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gagdude said:
They won't be able to do much outside the US where the patent system isn't so messed up. I'm sure Android will live, but if not in the US, then imported. Although I doubt it will die in the US anyways.
Also, you must have lived under a rock for a very long time. Adobe Flash is an extremely old technology. It is a 19 year old goddam technology and its STILL being updated! This is just a small part of the transition to HTML5
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thanks for the reply
what I mean is, I know Flash is old (and sucks, and has always sucked and been buggy/the main cause of browsers crashing, etc..) but now Android 4.0.x won't support Flash at all
There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something

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There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something
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Which isn't a problem at all, and you should do this anyway because it's (one of) the best browser(s) for Android.

1 - Apple isn't doing **** about Android its mostly Samsung hardware, android is going no where.
2 - current ics has flash plus all u need to do is Download an apk for flash to work on jelly bean.
3- most android phones look totally different
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clewis said:
3- most android phones look totally different
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Unlike all iOS phones. They all look the same.

Might want to give WP8 a shot.
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LooieENG said:
thanks for the reply
what I mean is, I know Flash is old (and sucks, and has always sucked and been buggy/the main cause of browsers crashing, etc..) but now Android 4.0.x won't support Flash at all
There is a workaround but it involves installing DolphinHD web browser or something
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Get your facts straight killer. 4.0.anything still supports flash...Adobe is just not updating the app. Not a big deal since sites are going away from flash, so a further update should not be needed. You can sideload flashplayer (can be found NUMEROUS places on XDA) onto any android version. I am currently running 4.1, and flash works just fine. Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true...

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Get your facts straight killer. 4.0.anything still supports flash...Adobe is just not updating the app. Not a big deal since sites are going away from flash, so a further update should not be needed. You can sideload flashplayer (can be found NUMEROUS places on XDA) onto any android version. I am currently running 4.1, and flash works just fine. Just because you read it on the internet doesn't make it true...
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I was thinking the same thing, but the fact I upgraded my SXE to 4.0.3 and now, even though Flash is installed it says "this site requires flash" on every flash site that worked beforemakes it true.

That Act I would describe something as "Somebody put fire on his/her house in fear of rats"....lol....
A patent infringement suit for something like 'Rectangular shape with rounded corners' ( even if they belieive they invented it- if search internet u will see there were products with that shape before ipad) or tap to call if its a phone number is not Andorid OS's core...
If u check here u can see there were not only claims by apple but also against apple too.. They also violated many n settled even with nokia n cisco etc...
Even brand iPhone was Cisico's before Apple , i believe they had only 'i'. They had Voip phone with that brand name... Now they go all over Android phone companies for small small claims coz their butts gets heated up when sitting on those big cupertino seats watching the growth of Android phones....
Even their much hyped 'Siri' is being laughed at...
http://youtu.be/grmixtB9dZM?hd=1&t=3m14s
Edit : Flash issue is a matter of time when HTML5 support built into the browsers . Adobe said on announcement that HTML5 is here as it supports flash

clewis said:
1 - Apple isn't doing **** about Android its mostly Samsung hardware, android is going no where.
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Apple was just awarded 25 patents on iOS for things like pinch to zoom and notification bar so they will most likely now come after android. Check the thread its ridiculous
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Krysten17 said:
Apple was just awarded 25 patents on iOS for things like pinch to zoom and notification bar so they will most likely now come after android. Check the thread its ridiculous
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Notification bar? NOTIFICATION BAR??? You mean the one that was on Android since 1.5 cupcake and iOS blatantly copied in iOS 5 is now theirs???
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gagdude said:
Notification bar? NOTIFICATION BAR??? You mean the one that was on Android since 1.5 cupcake and iOS blatantly copied in iOS 5 is now theirs???
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Well transparent or disappearing notification bar to be more precise. Basically everything about the touch screen based user interface though yes.
Here's the link check it out. Bananas.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
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How can they say they invented touch screen n pinch gesture even those technologies date back to even 1982-83.... its like siri , the technology they aquired, but they intvented lol

Krysten17 said:
Well transparent or disappearing notification bar to be more precise. Basically everything about the touch screen based user interface though yes.
Here's the link check it out. Bananas.
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/apples-latest-patents-could-spell-doom-for-android-r977
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No need to worry. On June of this year 6 US Senators teamed up to address the mobile technology patent situation. To make a long story short, they said that patents like this need to fall under FRAND...meaning Apple has to license them under reasonable terms. They are saying that once these features hit the market, they are considered standard essential. For example...a touch screen. If a judge says no one can use a touchscreen because apple has it patented, in theory, no other smartphone will offer competition..therefore apple has to license it out. Also, be wary of what you read in those kinds of articles, especially on rootzwiki. It is written by someone who volunteered to write for them and has no real journalism or reporting experience.

Right
My One S arrived... it's too damn sexy to send back lol

First Impression of Android?

What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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My first Android powered phone was a Motorola Defy. Of course I didn't know anything about it, not even how it looked like. First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!

Adinaky said:
First, I thought it was just a weird name for an OS, but now things have changed. I can do just about anything with it. This is what Android is all about!
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Well said!
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It was awesome, so much possibilities, apps, customizing options,... but then I rooted my android phone, flashed newer android versions and had a lot of fun doing it. Android is awesome.

Before using it, I thought it was microsoft's attempt to compete with apple's os.

I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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Pattttti said:
I've always wanted to have any Android device but when I got it... I felt disappointed. Why? Because Samsung just forgot about my phone and I didn't get any upgrade! And then I found xda and just fall in love with Android OS
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The same here, if i had to stay with gingerbread it would not have been so awesome as it is now.

Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Pattttti said:
Exactly! And in fact - I'm flashoholic now
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Lol......yeah me too.....my name is Chris and I'm a flashoholic
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Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.

Freedom in all ways...

michaelsplus said:
Very serious case of flashoholism in my case.
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Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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guitarman2010 said:
Lol....but in all seriousness....once I quickly learned what Android was like, it blew me away. I was totally turned off of the iOS when I received an iPod touch in December of 2009. I'll admit the device itself was pretty cool (hardware wise) and seemed "high tech" to me at the time. The UI was smooth and the display was bright and clear.
After that initial "wowness" wore off it was time to get down to business with one of the aspects of the device, playing music files. I quickly learned that the files had to be in the .aac format which was a little irritating but after some reading I learned that I would have to download the iTunes PC application for music conversion and other tasks. Finally downloaded the PC application and learned I would HAVE to input a credit or debit card number to set up an iTunes account to get free apps. At that point I knew nothing about newer gadgets. So I got rid of the iPod because I refused to enter in that information.
Android on the other hand is not like that, mp3s play, real free software w/o strings attached and a lot more options!
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OT
i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:

dagothe9 said:
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i absolutly not want to enter the nest of a discussion about andoid and ios, i own both, i preferr android, so much prefer it, but to my mother i will always give an iphone if i have to chose. but about what you said about file format-itunes-app store account issue, i can tell you by experience that any ipod and ios device plays mp3. i'm listening an mp3 right now from my iphone. yes you need itunes to upload music to any apple device, it is irritting but is their way to say "i sell your music dear musician and also protecting them from illegal reproduction on my device" butyou can add any mp3 without itunes asking anything. also you can, as i have done, deactivate the convertion to aac, and set convertion to mp3 or also to not convert new files added to library. last thing i have credit card just from this year, and own my iphone by near 2 years, and i have downloaded plenty of free apps without giving any credit card number, when it ask just hit, as on google play, add credit card later!
this said the way android works in this aspects is better for me, and probably overall. but what you said was not completly true.
Back to topic:
first impression on my Galaxy S Plus: crap it's damn slooooowwwww! then discovered xda! and turned it to crappy samsung software to always better and better custom rom! thanks guys to redefine android as it should be! :laugh:
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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I wish I would've known some of that when I had the device lol. Like I stated earlier, at that point in time I didn't know hardly anything about newer gadgets of the time.....I was used to old Palm Pilots and such. When I finally got a color screen pda early in 2009 I thought it was super high tech because for one it actually had color and two, it had WiFi but it was already 3 years out of date!
Oh well, who knows, if I would have kept the iPod I might've turned into an Applenaut but instead found Android. Maybe the correct way of saying it is Android found me.
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We had experiences with the iPhone 3G and wow it was pretty great. Then one of us got the Galaxy S Captivate and it was really great as well. Data with HSPA+ just blew the iPhone away; no contest. And now we have this Apple vs Android battle all over the globe but when we started playing around with Android Dev boards (BeagleBoard for example) and with mainline Linux vs Android, the opportunities for communities to just tear open the commercial market are pushing mobile computing in such a great direction.
The turning point for us was being able to take a microSD with android putting it into the BeagleBoard, having it run; and then subsequently taking it out, putting another microSD card in it this time with Linux compiled for ARM with Arch Linux. At that point, we saw Android in a completely different light. I mean the plug and play abilities of those peripheral drivers alone...having that kind of device knowing that the backing to it is largely a Linux device kind of instills a level of confidence in both security (by the nature of open source whistle blowers) and in performance. Can't wait til Android becomes more than just a phone/tablet OS...give us more Android watches, Android clocks, Android cars; perhaps not in it's current implementation, but a derivative thereof. I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.

Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:

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Flexible and customizable :good: but laggy and unstable... :bad:
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Personally I blame the OEMs. If done right, Android would be no different in lag/latency down to the low level code than a well built JVM on top of a Linux kernel. But as a consumer...I agree; it is unfortunate that Android is subject to bad software design and to make it worse, Android is open to bad design down to the implementation of the SDK.
Overall though I think I would rather encourage Android to get cleaner than Apple to get more open.

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What was your first impression of the Android OS? Mine was a paranoid thought of an OS named Android....thinking it would be a form of social control.....
I found out about it from television ads regarding different model cell phones. When I finally saw the UI, my first thought was an iOS ripoff. That seems like such a long time ago. Now I know better and I'm thankful for such a widespread open source OS that is smashing barriers as we speak!
What was your first initial impression?
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in all honesty i was blown away by the change in everything (came from apple)

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I personally will take Android and everything it stands for over Apple products that we can't tinker with.
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I will agree with you on that comment. Apple's iOS brings thoughts of claustrophobia to my mind lol
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[DISCUSSION] iOS 7

Being the centerpiece of the Android community, I would like to see what my fellow Nexus owners think of iOS 7. I did not create this thread for "flame wars" or any thing like that but rather a place where we can all maturely discuss our thoughts on Apple's new mobile operating system.
Personally I think it looks very interesting! Certainly a change of pace from where they have been going since the beginning of iOS and that's a good thing. I do believe they took a lot of cues from Android though including the look and feel, notification drawer, and the control center. The thing I'm most excited over though is what Google has in store for us to top it (and you know they will).
That's why I love technology, competition creates awesome new things for us consumers. What are your thoughts?
Here's a YouTube video of it just in case you didn't see it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKibbvhajOA

Looks very Android-esque, esp. the messaging app and the new "style" looks very much like MIUI, however I think there's already a thread open regarding this

Last iOS7 thread was closed, let's see how this one fairs.
On topic:
My thoughts are that I don't care how they make the OS look, or even function. Until they open up their OS and make it more flexible, I will never buy a device that runs it. I don't need them to tell me what I can and can't do with the phone I've already purchased. Then again, most Android phones have bloatware put in by OEMs and are just as restrictive. Guess that's why I bought a Nexus 4, browse the Nexus 4 forums, and genuinely enjoy AOSP. I don't exclusively run AOSP, but the fact that I can, and do, switch between ROMs is why I won't be using iOS7.

It looks like MIUI....:beer:
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Can I click on downloadable links and download what I want?
Can all apps see/use a downloaded file?
No? It's still for girls then.

I don't see why these threads keep getting closed just like the 4.3. Its related so ....anyways. I do applaud them for trying. But in the end their os is still closed. You get what you get and you can't change anything about it. When you buy and android phone you get more . you can make it yours . as for innovation, under all the new icons, new colors, new notification center, etc, the os is technically unchanged. But you know what, people will buy it. Some people like being told what's cool and what to buy . some don't like modifying and just want something that gets up and goes. While that may be good for some it may not be good for others.
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I don't see why these threads keep getting closed just like the 4.3. Its related so ....anyways. I do applaud them for trying. But in the end their os is still closed. You get what you get and you can't change anything about it. When you buy and android phone you get more . you can make it yours . as for innovation, under all the new icons, new colors, new notification center, etc, the os is technically unchanged. But you know what, people will buy it. Some people like being told what's cool and what to buy . some don't like modifying and just want something that gets up and goes. While that may be good for some it may not be good for others.
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Looks pretty cool but Android all the way
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I definitely like the aesthetics of it, but no file manager/downloading files makes it a hard sell.

It looks pretty nice actually..

At least it has widgets now.
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Still not there but, does look good
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Last ios vs Android argument I had was back at the iPhone 4 times. It has since become boring to bash them. Who cares..

Vangelis13 said:
Last ios vs Android argument I had was back at the iPhone 4 times. It has since become boring to bash them. Who cares..
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That's not the purpose of this thread?
It is to discuss it and possibly compare it. Not bash it.

I think it looks good. Refreshing for iphone users to have a new look!

k0lega said:
I think it looks good. Refreshing for iphone users to have a new look!
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I'd say it's starting to look more like Android, and the iPhone users who preferred the "iPhone look" (Like the missis) agreed that she won't upgrade as it's begun to stray, and then she'd rather just buy and Android phone and let me set it up for her - if those are the kinda looks she's looking for.

Neefy said:
I'd say it's starting to look more like Android, and the iPhone users who preferred the "iPhone look" (Like the missis) agreed that she won't upgrade as it's begun to stray, and then she'd rather just buy and Android phone and let me set it up for her - if those are the kinda looks she's looking for.
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Good to see it from a users viewpoint. I guess they have grown into that look

It's good that they changed the UI and it does look somewhat nice, but I couldn't help feeling I was watching i/o again.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans

My girlfriend and I watched the whole conference, she has an iPhone 5, and I have to admit I was impressed with the overhaul. The semi-transparency and the white mixed with vivid colors will look great on her phone and iPad. The iPad is where I'm really looking forward to seeing it. It's about time Apple stepped up and really pressure Google to make Key Lime Pie the best OS it can be.
That being said. Not to start a debate... I personally wouldn't leave Android for iOS 7. I like my Nexus 4 too much... At least until the Nexus 5 comes out.
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Although I applaud Apple for overhauling the look of their iOS (it looks better than iOS 6 for sure) it looks like they taken features from android/blackberry/win8 and just complied it into one. Does it impress me? No it doesn't, Android is still by far more advanced than iOS will ever be and this is coming from someone who had the iPhone 4. I got tired of not being able to customize anything and have to use the phone just like Apple wants people to. Does it impress those people who use apple iPhone and apple products only? Yes it does it probably does.. I was disappointed, I was expecting Apple to come up with something new I guess but of course they didn't. "Innovative"..
I'm not one to bash Apple but....
It's like android, blackberry and win8 had a 3 way marriage and it created iOS7.
Although, their Mac Pro looked interesting.
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I think the new OS screamed "Android!!!!!!" and the new Safari reminds a bit Google Chrome for Android, specially the card-tabs (which looks identical to me).
But I also don't care if they are being inspired by Android, after all, that's a good thing, right? Back in the days people would say Android used to copy Apple, now it's going the other way!!! AND it was about time Apple did some major changes to iOS so I'm happy for'em

[DISCUSSION]Would you leave Android for a possible Microsoft phone?

Looks like Nokia has given up:laugh: they sold out to Microsoft but microsoft is gonna have to come really good to beat Android OS
What features do you think should be implemented for you to switch?

No way Nokia is dead as ...
.....dead...so is wp
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nothing can force me to swich from android to another os
but i like all the open source operating systems like ubuntu touch and fire os but android is best

Hell no! I used lumia 850 and i used it for a while till the screen broke, surprisingly, i was so happy.
Never gone back since.
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i used lumia 610 at first windows phone is like ooohh:highfive: but a good look at the features then AWW just like Trident gum lol:laugh:
it feels like you partially own the phone no file manager no privacy it sucks

i cant see a reason to leave android for a microsoft phone, i just see alot of regulations and locks like the iphone.

no reason
i dont see any reason to leave android for microsft.....

This will make a good Hollywood corporate thriller. think it took years to plan.
First - Microsoft wants foothold in hardware in mobile division.so it needs to takeover some good mobile company in peanuts amount.
Second - placing a mole/trojan Elop in Nokia, who rejects Meego,Android.So that Nokia would run into losses,devaluing it.
Third- Nokia finds it difficult to survive due to those nefarious decisions.
Fourth - Microsoft offers to buy Nokia (acting as savior) that too at such a hilarious price (as planned before.)
Fifth - Mission Accomplished!!!
Oops i forgot about the Qs...NO WAY..i wont leave anything (android/Sailfish/Ubuntu/Firefox/ bla bla) for a Microsoft stuff

gr8gizmoguru said:
This will make a good Hollywood corporate thriller. think it took years to plan.
First - Microsoft wants foothold in hardware in mobile division.so it needs to takeover some good mobile company in peanuts amount.
Second - placing a mole/trojan Elop in Nokia, who rejects Meego,Android.So that Nokia would run into losses,devaluing it.
Third- Nokia finds it difficult to survive due to those nefarious decisions.
Fourth - Microsoft offers to buy Nokia (acting as savior) that too at such a hilarious price (as planned before.)
Fifth - Mission Accomplished!!!
Oops i forgot about the Qs...NO WAY..i wont leave anything (android/Sailfish/Ubuntu/Firefox/ bla bla) for a Microsoft stuff
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Very true! The nokia lumia 820 that i owned was a hardware marvel. The only problem was that it ran on a lousy windows software.
Some of its bad features were:
1. The os directories were perfectly hidden. You couldnt tweak anything!!!
2. The apps were limited in features. 3. Some features that are taken for granted in android could not be seen anywhere.
Eg. Screen rotation.
4. There wasnt a single file browser (microsoft or 3rd party).
5. The marketplace was full of paid softwares that isnt worth ****.
6. Where's my google apps???!!!
7. Beauty cant compare with brains.
8. Copied text kept disappearing after some time.
9. Wheres my firefox?
10. Internal memory made a fuss if i ever added too many apps.
11. I kept dreaming about installing jellybean over it.
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Hmm, I think I'll stay with android. Have a few friends with windows phone, and I don't really see something special from window phone (yet)
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I'd like to try a windows phone, though they probably aren't that good compared to android, change is good from time to time, different taste

I would rather switch to iOS. At least it has native apps and you can jb. Oy also it has a huge app ecosystem. None of these apply to WP8
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now why would i do that?? i love android, the customizabilty and the fact that it's open source.. and even if windows release something similar, i don't think i would make that change.. not that i'm not open minded but i have tried a LOT of different platforms and android was the only one i really got comfy with...
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ggrimaldi said:
Hmm, I think I'll stay with android. Have a few friends with windows phone, and I don't really see something special from window phone (yet)
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I agree with the you
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I had a Lumia 920 for a while, nice phone and the OS is not bad, however I soon missed android and had to go back. Still use a Lumia 820 for work though.

I don't think I would switch, the customizability and flexibility of Android is simply amazing
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I voted "No"..
But I think microsoft would make a huge move after this.
Let's just wait a couple of months more.. :laugh:

iamreverie said:
I voted "No"..
But I think microsoft would make a huge move after this.
Let's just wait a couple of months more.. :laugh:
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Agreed, a mix of apple like tactics plus VS2013. Also imagine if you could plug your phone to your TV and get a full Windows RT desktop. Of course Microsoft would have to ditch the "Store only apps" policy. I would buy it in a heartbeat though
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There's so much fun in using Android, that it consumes too much of my time playing the cell phone.
Maybe it's not bad to change to WP so that you leave you phone alone.

If it run's Linux, It's a keeper. Stay far away from Microsoft if you can.