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Official HTC Desire Car Kit

Mobile Fun now have details on the official HTC Desire car kit. Still no price though:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-desire-car-upgrade-kit-p24570.htm
Apparently placing the device in the holder activates something called the 'navipanel' which must be similar to the 'Car Home' app on the Nexus One.
I'll wait for a price and reviews before deciding whether to replace my current car holder
EDIT
I just found further details on the HTC Accessory site from Expansys. The dock will set you back £65 and isn't due til the 5th July.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788

Hmm recon there going to put this navi panel on the app market? or do a upgrade?

It's just this.
Regards,
Dave

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but things have moved on with this accessory! It is now available for order (although it is still £65.99!) from htcaccessorystore.
The question then is, is it worth £65.99? Other than auto-loading navipanel what does this give us over a standard mount and car charger?

If somebody buys one and works out what triggers dock mode it would be sweet!

I have recently acquired one of these and it does not activate any software within the phone. It does switch on 'car mode' which allows the speaker-phone to activate when a call comes in. I have contacted HTC support and was given this reply,
"Dear xxxxxx,
Sorry for the delayed response. I have investigated the issue a bit further - the Desire does not come with the "NaviPanel” software, as the manufacturer claims, and there is no download available for it. There is a “Navigation” app, which you can find in the list of all apps, but I am not sure if it is the same. Alternatively, you can go to Android market and search for “Car Home” or “Car dock” and try out some of the 3rd party apps available, but please be aware HTC does not produce those, so you will be using them at your own risk.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Sincerely,
Viktor"
I am somewhat annoyed that HTC have stated in the car holder instruction manual and in the original press release, that the 'Navipanel' is activated when the phone is docked. It was a huge selling point for me, as I use the phone in the car more than anything and this feature would have made it easier to operate the phone in the dock.

Have you instaled navi panel, you can find it on here somewhere.
I'm thinking of getting one of these, but only if it works properly!

so no one bought this?

I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...

Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU

brrrbaybay said:
I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...
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None of the third party app's I've tried could convince me that Car-mode is a great and usable feature. Maybe that's why HTC decided to discontinue (or never started working on?) this feature?
Also,
Using or holding (and even touching for that matter) a phone while driving is illegal in The Netherlands and will cost you about 150,- Euro. Even if it's only being used a a navigation device.
I personally think Google should improve Voice search and release a Dutch version soon
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.

brrrbaybay said:
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.
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From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...

_dGs_ said:
Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU
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a little bit later then promised, but: When connected to the official HTC CarKit, the desire says it's connected to an AC power source.

66mustang said:
From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...
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After I bought the Desire I also also bought a 1200mA (max output current) generic USB charger for use in my car. Friends of mine who have an Iphone were using this charger because this phone also has the problem.
The 'funny' thing is that this charger didn't solve the problem on my Desire. Perhaps HTC chargers identify themselves as some sort of "high current charger"- USB deviceClass, or use a slightly different voltage (e.g. 5.5V instead of 5V?) to identify themselves as AC charger?

No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702

fredfox_uk said:
No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702
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Thanks! That sounds really usefull

Super cheap TV Out Cable

I read somewhere that a Nokia CA-75U cable works fine as a TV out cable for the Samsung Galaxy S (i9000) and so did a quick ebay search anf found many "compatible" etc all around £7-20
Anyways did a google and came across one place selling Geniune Nokia ones for an amazing low price of £2.03 I then thought I would get shafted on delivery charges but was even more amazed delivery was £0.01 . So ordered one on Wednesday and got it today.
I can confirm it works perfect, kids are currently watching Toy Story2 from my phone connected to my tv (im even upscaling to 1080p ) and it's working fine
http://www.superetrader.co.uk/genuine-nokia-tv-out-cable-ca75u-p-4301.html

jup, although it disconnect easily, doubt that an original cable would stay in the socket more firmly.. already over 20h video playback through cable with an outstandig picture quality, figuring it's 480p

Anyone know where I can get this same cable for cheap and ships to Canada?

nemethb said:
Anyone know where I can get this same cable for cheap and ships to Canada?
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Try the website. I don't think it would cost that much to post to Canada tbh.

Try Focalprice.com
lts free shipping n I got it within 2 weeks at around $3USD.
Looks like original, claims is original, probably oem.

sean2476 said:
Try the website. I don't think it would cost that much to post to Canada tbh.
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I did, and they don't. That's why I'm asking if anyone knows an alternative site.

yohannlyc said:
Try Focalprice.com
lts free shipping n I got it within 2 weeks at around $3USD.
Looks like original, claims is original, probably oem.
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Looks great, thanks!

compuse said:
jup, although it disconnect easily, doubt that an original cable would stay in the socket more firmly.. already over 20h video playback through cable with an outstandig picture quality, figuring it's 480p
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It doesn't disconect easily at all, it's a standard 3.5mm jack if yours is disconnecting all the time its a manufacturing fault not to the correct specification.

Emexrulsier said:
It doesn't disconect easily at all, it's a standard 3.5mm jack if yours is disconnecting all the time its a manufacturing fault not to the correct specification.
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3.5mm... hrm how come the focalprice page looks like a Micro USB?
http://focalprice.com/MA038B/Original_Nokia_CA75U_TVOut_Video_AV_Cable_Black.html

Hum, ever it looks like, i thinks its not Micro USB:
Original Nokia 2.5mm CA-75U AV VIDEO OUT

You're silly. You picked the wrong link obviously. Try http://www.focalprice.com/MA040B/Original_Nokia_CA7575U_TVOut_Video_AV_Cable_Black.html
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Bought one. Arrived today.Works perfect. A big thank you.

Can you guys tell me if there is any "humming" with the sound? I have one of this Nokia cables but it gives me this distortions :/

Probably because of how your volume is set. The idea is to increase the volume on your SGS, not on the TV. If you the volume on your SGS is low and you just turn up the volume on your TV all you're going to do is make the noise more noticeable. Try finding a mid point between too much and too little volume on your SGS. Max volume would be ideal but that would kill your battery.
Just my $0.02. I could be wrong...

Hi, I know what you mean but it's not the case.
It's a strong humming, specially when there is too much "white" on the screen. It varies according to the picture.
Sounds very much like interferance somehow or the cable has the wrong pins set, I cannot really say for sure.

Arkymedes,
Same sh*t
to All: If you had this problem, and it was succesfully solved by replacement of cable , please report which cable did you buy and where.
Still hope it's not a hardware problem, but...

brunes said:
3.5mm... hrm how come the focalprice page looks like a Micro USB?
http://focalprice.com/MA038B/Original_Nokia_CA75U_TVOut_Video_AV_Cable_Black.html
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My guess is that's an incorrect image. But that also does suggest there maybe another nokia one that is micro usb that "may" work on the Galaxy.
The nokia one I have is a 3pin 3.5mm jack to svideo and L/R audio
The Galaxy S hdmi out cable uses micro usb to hdmi so it does mean they can output tv from the microsd so the cable you listed could very well work???
And yes if my amp is too high I do get a lot of crappy hiss on the audio I tried a dell cable and that gives the same so its not the nokias fault.

Just ordered one. Cheers OP!
BS...

Z5c and Philips dock, charging doesn't work

Hi all.
I've got a really weird problem with my shiny new Z5c. It refuses to charge when put in my Philips dock. I've got a Philips Fidelio AS111 (a speaker with a micro-usb-connector to put into the phone). All other phones I've tried charges with it without problems. The Z5c charges without problem with all other ways I've tried (cable to wall plug and cable to compuber). Just the combination Z5c vs AS111 doesn't work, it's like it doesn't get any current from the connector at all.
I'm thinking this might have something to do with how Sony got the phones connector water proof. Could they have done something that could affect the charging? Any other ideas? Anyone else with this problem?
/Daniel

It sounds like the dock may not output enough power. Are you sure it's getting plugged in all the way as well?

Try this method...
Connect your phone to Speaker and open Setting > Device Connection > USB Connectivity and find Detect USB Device...
I hope that's work for you...
Sometime i try to read my flashdisk through OTG, and i must detect usb device....
Sorry for my english

Sean09 said:
It sounds like the dock may not output enough power. Are you sure it's getting plugged in all the way as well?
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Yep, it goes all the way in. I've also tried wiggling it around a bit, nothing at all.
If it's simply not enough current, shouldn't the phone charge anyway, just slower? It seems strange that it should be so low that the phone doesn't even recognize it as a power source. Guess I could measure on it though. Question is how I get my voltmeter down there
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Try this method...
Connect your phone to Speaker and open Setting > Device Connection > USB Connectivity and find Detect USB Device...
I hope that's work for you...
Sometime i try to read my flashdisk through OTG, and i must detect usb device....
Sorry for my english
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Nope. Nothing. The phone just says nothing is connected. Mind you though that the phone isn't supposed to communicate with the dock using the usb port (it uses Bluetooth for that), the usb port is just for charging.
Thing is though that it isn't just a dead stupid usb port. When connecting another phone, the dock feels that something is connected and it then turns it's Bluetooth on (which is indicated by a little blinking led). When I connect the Z5c nothing of this happens, like the dock doesn't notice the phone being there at all.
My guess is that Sony did something fancy with the port to get it water proof. Something that doesn't follow the standard. Question is what...
/Daniel

+1 No charging on As111.
I read somewhere that the dock doesn't have the necessary output. Maybe the phone's fast charging capability has made the old Phillips obsolescent?
But bluetooth connection is fine - I used the phillips dockstudio app. So at least i got a bedside clock ...

Ah! At least I'm not alone, that is a good thing.
I've contacted both Philips and Sony support about this. Philips support just concluded that the dock and the phone isn't compatible (thank you mr Obvious), Sonys support hasn't answered yet. I don't have any big hopes for them solving it.
I really want this solved though. I love my AS111, it's the perfect place to charge the phone. As you say, the bt works fine, but having the phone laying next to the dock with a charging cable plugged in really feels stupid :-/
To be continued...
/Daniel

Well, I have a similar problem: If the Z5c is docked into my samsung dockingstation, only a message tone comes up, but no charging! Also an App which is automatically started when charging comes up shortly, but is closed after 2 seconds.
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Same thing with philips as 351 dock. It does not charge xperia z5c phone. I think sony phones have a probleme with philips docs. The thing is what kind an incompability, hardware or software?

adamslast said:
Same thing with philips as 351 dock. It does not charge xperia z5c phone. I think sony phones have a probleme with philips docs. The thing is what kind an incompability, hardware or software?
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I guess it's the same with all Philips Fidelio docking devices for Android. Seems like they simply don't deliver power when they don't detect any connected device and for some reason they don't detect the Z5c. Since it's the exact same problem even when the phone is totally shut down it must be some kind of hardware issue.
Question is exactly how the dock detects connected phones...
/Daniel

Hi Daniel
Any new info on this question?
Anybody got good experience with other charging docks for Z5c, with bluetooth speaker and clock?

Not really. I did some measuring, and on a normal micro usb charger there's always 5 volts over the outermost two pins. On the micro usb contact of the Fidelio there isn't. The logical explanation would be that the dock only delivers power when it senses a connected phone and for some reason it doesn't sense the Z5c being connected. Don't really know where to go from that
/Daniel

CONFIRMED working 3.5 audio adapters

I'm starting to see a number of USB-C to 3.5 headphone jack adapters on Amazon, though a great many of them have less than fantastic reviews and many reviewers indicated they don't work for specific phones. I recently saw one that was specifically indicated to work with the Moto Z, so I went ahead and bought. It came today and I am able to CONFIRM that it does indeed work with my Verizon Moto Z Force phone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7R8PWO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB-C adapter seems to fit well, and I'm getting audio from the Google Music player in both ears just fine. Just thought I'd share my results in case others were looking for working adapters. If you found one that definitely works with Moto Z as well, please share it here.

I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).

sn00gan said:
I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).
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FWIW, if you have a wireless charging mod, TILT makes a universal car dock with wireless charging: http://www.tylt.com/car-products/capio-car-mount
That'll leave the port open for the 3.5mm adapter. Waze will probably still eat faster than wireless will charge, but it should extend the time significantly.

I should probably read posts before responding to them. Please ignore. :]

rapdactyl said:
Incipio actually makes a really good vehicle dock mod that allows you to charge and has a 3.5mm output. Only mod I use regularly, it's ridiculously convenient. Crazy that it's not very well known, because it's easily the most useful Moto Mod.
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RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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PiousInquisitor said:
RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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Derp, didn't read the original quote, my bad.

You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?

BlueForce64 said:
You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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... What if you lose the one it came with? What if you want to have extras?

BlueForce64 said:
You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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To me it does. I don't want to carry it everywhere with me to get potentially lost or mangled in my pocket. I'd rather leave one at work, one in the car, and one at home.

I see. I actually only use mine in the car now for the aux input but otherwise I've already converted to Bluetooth headphones unfortunately. And no, not beats. Beats are terrible.

I found what claimed to be OEM Moto cables on Amazon and ordered a couple, but they are currently unavailable. I paid $7.58 each.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0ZYNV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also ordered this one, which was made by a third party and was $6.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0GHUCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I cannot speak to durability because I just received them in the last week, but all of them did at least work initially.

Will Nintendo Switch dock Work with S8?

Hey,
I was thinking... there is any chance that the Switch dock works with the S8 like the DeX official accessory?

NO.
Not even the same thing. Just simply no, it will not work.

xile6 said:
NO.
Not even the same thing. Just simply no, it will not work.
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Thats like saying "I wonder if the S8 will connect bluetooth to my vacuum cleaner" lol

takato23 said:
Hey,
I was thinking... there is any chance that the Switch dock works with the S8 like the DeX official accessory?
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lol hell no are you really being serious asking this question

Aside from all the snide comments, there is a possibility. The Switch connection to the dock is USB-C which carries power and HDMI. If the Switch is using standard USB-C spec functions for this, then there is a possibility. The weak point is likely Samsung not supporting USB-C for video and not using USB Power Delivery standard. So, I'd say there is a slight possibility, but not likely.

Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.

faded03cobra said:
Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.
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So is that an unhelpful sarcastic response or an example of current dildo intercommunication standards? So hard to tell these days...

faded03cobra said:
Very possible. 10 years ago I was able to connect a purple dildo with arcane lightning bolt accents via bluetooth or NFC to a Nokia 3310 then there is a chance.
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That is majorly old school man lol I remember my nokia 6600 "GAIT" phone that could switch between gsm and tdma on Cingular and that was groundbreaking tech at that time. I got 480 talk minutes for $60 and no data. Remember what a big deal the RAZR was? People claimed it was bulletproof

johnwayne27 said:
Thats like saying "I wonder if the S8 will connect bluetooth to my vacuum cleaner" lol
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So, a legitimate question then.
Control your Roomba with your phone via Bluetooth.

Hahaha, I don't know why is so absurd my question. It is an usb-c port with one usb and hdmi out. It could perfectly work

no one tried this?

nobody plays the switch

Hello,
I did try this using a small USB C extension and it did not seem to work.

KMyers said:
Hello,
I did try this using a small USB C extension and it did not seem to work.
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Why using an extension? You couldnt put it on the dock directly?

I tried it, and was not able to get the phone in there.. gave up after 2 tiny scratches on my connector.

takato23 said:
Why using an extension? You couldnt put it on the dock directly?
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The switch dock has 2 plastic guide pins to line up the switch to the USB port. The extension cable bypasses these pins allowing anything to be plugged in. The extension was short enough to do the trick while also not long enough to degrade the connection ( https://www.amazon.com/RIITOP-USB-C...cz-20&linkId=962289736eacd9427405820e024a2a39 )

I am tempted to try pairing the S8 with my Switch Dock - there was no damage to your phone after trying with the extension cable?
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSw...m_nintendo_switch_docks_switch_con_sfans_are/
Update: Confirmed that the Nintendo Switch will not work
Ok. Confirmed that the Nintendo Switch dock will not work. First I tested the extension cable - Switch works fine with the extension cable and the dock. Extension cable outputs full 1080p and charges the Switch.
Next I tried connecting the S8 to the extension cable - I see the display flicker - but no reaction from the S8 - except that the phone starts charging. Cannot even start screen mirroring - it does not appear to recognize the switch as a display output at all.
No ill effects to either dock or phone. Did not leave devices connected for too long.
I wonder how the CF001 is able to mimic both docks? If the Nintendo dock worked, I would have willingly paid the $100 for the official one...

Yeah I am curious because I am researching some dex options and I see Ebay has a generic Dex station that doubles as a switch dock... since I have a switch and a Note 8, it would be awesome to be able to utilize the same dock as needed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HDMI-Dex-S...235194?hash=item362671effa:g:atwAAOSwovNaF42M
Anyone know if this would even work? It's only $28.
It specifically says "HDMI Dex Station Desktop"
Edit:
I just bought this from Amazon for $29 with Free same day shipping:
https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Nin...id=1515685969&sr=1-6&keywords=switch+dex+dock
Reviews says it works great for Dex and the Nintendo switch, so I can use it for double duty. It's coming today, so I'll throw up a small review here.

then why does ebay sell a dex dock same as switch... even pix of switch and note 8 in same unit?
HDMI-Dex-Station-Desktop-Extension-Charging-Dock-For-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-S8/152748261755?epid=19007441379&hash=item239081817b:g:vxIAAOSwevdZ5xNa

Maybe
So I thought the same thing because they use the same ports and there are third party focks that support both switch and the s8 so all tge people saying its a stupid idea are wrong BUT the switch dock is designed so a switch can get in easily and getting an s8 there is nearly impossible if you dont cut the front i have both s8 and switch and i tryed but i got no luck getting it in so yea...