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Hey every1, I was wondering if there was a working stable way to root the VZW s3... I know a lot of devs have been working on it and I hear there coming out with an update to fix it, but for right now is there a way? I have sprint but the service isn't good where I live so I'd like to get Vrzn and be able to flash cm10, any input much appreciated
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irish.iolar said:
Hey every1, I was wondering if there was a working stable way to root the VZW s3... I know a lot of devs have been working on it and I hear there coming out with an update to fix it, but for right now is there a way? I have sprint but the service isn't good where I live so I'd like to get Vrzn and be able to flash cm10, any input much appreciated
Thanks
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Rooting and the bootloader issue have virtually nothing to do with one another. Here's a copy/paste of something I wrote:
ExodusC said:
The Verizon (and pretty much every) Galaxy S3 has had root since virtually their release date.
The Verizon version does have a locked bootloader (see #3), and there is going to be a "Developer Edition" released directly from Samsung with pretty much no warranty, and it will be completely unsubsidized.
The bootloader lock has not stopped us from flashing custom ROMs or custom kernels. See below.
Here's some source links for you, in rough chronological order:
The "Root66" method for easily obtaining root
Original proof-of-concept showing custom kernels can be booted
Standard install of CyanogenMod 9 via kexec demonstrated
Functioning 3G/4G data on CyanogenMod 9 demonstrated
Unofficial guide to installing CyanogenMod 9
CVPCS states locked bootloader is a non-issue
Ongoing research & development on the locked bootloader
I could go on and on, but as you can see, development of custom ROMs (both TouchWiz and AOSP based) has not been hindered by the locked bootloader.
The community has pulled together on this, and developers from non-Verizon carriers have been tons of help in all the progress that has been made so far.
Many people, including myself, do not support the idea of the Developer Edition SGS3, and I personally doubt it will have even a tiny fraction of the community the consumer version has.
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Thanks for the info, but what can't you do with the Verizon version?
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And if you can still root and flash roms from Verizon s3, why does it say like cyanogenmod is coming out for everything but Verizon bc it has a locked bootloader?
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Look at the development forms it will answer yourquestions and show you where the VZW development is going.
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In short a locked bootloader will prevent flashing custom kernel, hence why CM10 is not officially supported for VZW yet. It is possible to flash other ROMs and there are already a few different versions of the stock rom that have been stripped or debloated. Some people have also reported a workaround for flashing custom kernels but its a little more tedious. As far as rooting goes, you can do everything else that rooting entails (TB, tethering, etc.) just fine.
kthung said:
In short a locked bootloader will prevent flashing custom kernel, hence why CM10 is not officially supported for VZW yet. It is possible to flash other ROMs and there are already a few different versions of the stock rom that have been stripped or debloated. Some people have also reported a workaround for flashing custom kernels but its a little more tedious. As far as rooting goes, you can do everything else that rooting entails (TB, tethering, etc.) just fine.
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What do you mean "reported?" Read my above post- we have an effective workaround for flashing custom kernels and ROMs.
All it requires is flashing a custom recovery (just like you'd do with any phone) and then simply flashing the custom ROM (just like you'd do with any phone).
The auto-kexec and custom kernel are built right into the .zip package.
Yes, it's not perfect, but assuming the CyanogenMod team is okay with the workaround, I don't see why we wouldn't get official support.
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What do you mean "reported?" Read my above post- we have an effective workaround for flashing custom kernels and ROMs.
All it requires is flashing a custom recovery (just like you'd do with any phone) and then simply flashing the custom ROM (just like you'd do with any phone).
The auto-kexec and custom kernel are built right into the .zip package.
Yes, it's not perfect, but assuming the CyanogenMod team is okay with the workaround, I don't see why we wouldn't get official support.
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thats right im even running CM10 (dealing with the regular issues before that rom hit RC status, but i love cyanogen so i can live with that, official could hit us soon
So if i unlock my bootloader will i be able to take the JB OTA when it arrives? If not how do i restore the locked bootloader? Also what if my phone has issues.. Would vzw notice i have this?
Sorry if these r dumb questions. I am not 100% on unlocking it.
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Adam outler specifically stated to not do any ota's after unlocking the bootloader...besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways. Im not 100% but Adam has a stock bootloader.tar posted in the op of his thread. I believe you would flash that in the bootloader function of odin and that will relock your bootloader...now I am not 100% on this, hopefully others will confirm!
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
manaox2 said:
The stock bootloader and firmware flash should do the trick to take updates according to Adam himself in the unlock bootloader post. No guarantee you will ever be able to get it unlocked again though.
Also, CyanogenMod team have already switched to working on the CM10 (jellybean) non-kexec version for Verizon now according to the project status page. I wouldn't take Verizon OTA anyway, don't really want the dumbed down no local search that Apple is forcing on us with their patents.
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So I should be able to flash any rom i want now? Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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Schaweet said:
First you should wait until Devs start releasing Roms and kernels that take advantage of the unlocked bootloader. If you are this unfamiliar with things, just relax and wait for some new/updated Roms to come out that have clear instructions for you. Don't rush into things and brick your phone because you don't fully understand what you are doing.
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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I mean I knew exactly how to do things on my DX I just am not as sure with my S3. What recovery would you recommend?
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At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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voodoomanx said:
At this point it's not the recovery but the lack of unlocked bootloader roms (non kexec) for vzws3. I've used rom manager and ez recovery with the s3 with great success.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand. I tried finding the original thread i read that on but came up short so if I'm wrong someone please correct me as I don't want to spread false information).
And honestly I'm sure almost every rom will be updated within 24 hours to reflect this if not sooner and development will be full steam ahead! Just beware of an OTA cause you know Verizon is not gonna be happy we broke out of their sphere of influence. You can prolly guarantee this "issue" will be towards the top of their to-do list.
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
asmallchild said:
Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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That's not always the case anymore. I've noticed Rezound users have been forced OTA's (update installs without your explicit approval) which means we very well could see the same as well.
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Otas cannot be forced though right?
We always have to accept it on our end correct?
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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Phew good, I'm on Synergy, I think they've blocked OTAs
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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even if you unlock the bootloader and are worried about OTA's just install clockwork mod or team win. the custom recovery will stop the installation of the files. last line of defense as some phones will download and OTA and install it regardless of what you do (rezound, thunderbolt, etc)
droidstyle said:
besides the devs will bring us updates faster than ota anyways.
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Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
llama555 said:
Also what recovery should I use? Stock/CWM/or TWRP? At least for the CM10s
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As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
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The only big difference between cwm 6 and previous versions is its support for kexec, but otherwise does the same thing and can be used for any of the Roms we already have (from what I understand.
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That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Off topic, sorry, but GO NINERS!!!
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lazarus2405 said:
Always, +1. I've never understood the desire to get OTAs afteryou start modding your phone.
As long as there are still kexec roms out there, you'll still need a kexec recovery to flash them. If you know for sure you won't be using kexec, use whatever you want except for stock. Don't ever flash the stock recovery unless you're mailing it off to Verizon.
That isn't strictly true. CWM 6.x has a couple of nice features that CWM 5.8.x doesn't, like the deduplication technique to save you space when you have multiple backups. You're right though, in that if you're happy with CWM, there's no reason to switch after unlocking.
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Good to know thank you
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so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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Hulk0069 said:
so what if your rooted and don't wanna
Flash a Rom is there anything, esle to do to stop an ota?
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My best guess would be to find out what files are responsible for it and see if they are safe to remove via root explorer or something.
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If you are on a custom ROM most devs will have the OTAs killed off anyways. If you are not on a custom ROM there is really no point in unlocking it.
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The OTA's also fail once they boot into recovery if the stock recovery isn't there. So it's not likely you'll get a forced OTA that works.
Can the international leaked builds of jb be ported to work on verizon sg3? Also is there any developers currently working on this. If so I would be happy to test have the hook up at Verizon not concerned if my device bricks. Sorry if this has already been asked did a search but didn't find any results.
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azalvarez03 said:
Can the international leaked builds of jb be ported to work on verizon sg3? Also is there any developers currently working on this. If so I would be happy to test have the hook up at Verizon not concerned if my device bricks. Sorry if this has already been asked did a search but didn't find any results.
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Our phone uses a different chip set, the international version will not work with ours. Once a release is out for any US carrier the devs can begin work.
Now that tmobiles jb update for the gs3 has leaked are developers able to use that as a base for us versions and mod to work on other carriers ( hopefully Verizon) ?
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Now that tmobiles jb update for the gs3 has leaked are developers able to use that as a base for us versions and mod to work on other carriers ( hopefully Verizon) ?
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only time will tell as far as the Tmobile leak is concerned i read that its just a patch up to Jelly bean and has to be flashed on the stock rom.
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only time will tell as far as the Tmobile leak is concerned i read that its just a patch up to Jelly bean and has to be flashed on the stock rom.
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Or.....that's just what it was intended for......good thing this is XDA and not just a VZW forum .
Has anyone noticed theres a Revolt nightly on GooManager for the i337m? Has anyone tried it? When you open app up, its at the Compatible roms tab.
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Has anyone noticed theres a Revolt nightly on GooManager for the i337m? Has anyone tried it? When you open app up, its at the Compatible roms tab.
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I doubt anyone has tried it, other than possibly djrbliss, as we currently still have a locked bootloader and no way to flash it (via custom recovery).
Edit: Just realized that you're maybe talking about the Canadian variant?
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CPA Poke said:
I doubt anyone has tried it, other than possibly djrbliss, as we currently still have a locked bootloader and no way to flash it (via custom recovery).
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While your statement is correct concerning the AT&T version, model SGH-I337, the OP was specifically talking about model SGH-I337M, with the"M" being the operative letter. This model is generally for Canadian variants, which all have unlocked bootloaders, and now with custom recoveries, and it appears, ROMs.
Peter
Correct Peter, all this numbers and letters are sometimes missleading and confusing.
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I tried it. I actually didn't realize this wasn't the CM nightly. I had issues with it (particularly the on-screen navigation buttons, and incompatibility with GAPPS). Note I am on an i337m
There's a thread in the T-Mobile S4 forums.
Not to sure it will help much but it's been posted.
http://opensource.samsung.com/
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Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
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Bucknut89 said:
Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
Thanks
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If you're on MDL and want MF3, I recommend rooting and installing a custom recovery while you can, and then flashing the neutered MF3 update. Root is in the General section, many MF3 ROM's can be found in Development sections. Make sure to read the whole OP in whichever you go to before doing anything.
Bucknut89 said:
Can I rename this as update.zip and the flash it to my AT&T i337? I am on MDL and it wont update via OTA or Kies.
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Trolling?
blastagator said:
Trolling?
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why ask that? believe it or not some xda users never root their phone and could care less about loosing the ability to flash roms
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I am in need of the stock mf3 firmware. tried getting rid of bloat ware and now getting error messages all over and cant recover
OK...after downloading and extracting...this is only the kernel source...
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i did just that....but know i get samsung text to speech has stopped as well as music has stopped...factory wipe and clean did nothing as well as restoring terminator back up of all things i uninstalled...nothing help so i figured fresh install of mf3 firmware would do the trick but i guess no one has that yet
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If you're on MDL and want MF3, I recommend rooting and installing a custom recovery while you can, and then flashing the neutered MF3 update. Root is in the General section, many MF3 ROM's can be found in Development sections. Make sure to read the whole OP in whichever you go to before doing anything.
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I just really want the update so I can open the extra LTE bands. Also the Apps to SD would be nice. The Rooted roms dont fix the LTE bands. Also i dont care about rooting. Looks like CM is going to be coming out with a non root flash method for thier roms anyway.
You can unlock them... You don't need the update. Google.
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graydiggy said:
You can unlock them... You don't need the update. Google.
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Yes, you may be able to just flash the MF3 modem after a factory reset. That would hopefully resolve your current issues and open up the LTE bands.
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The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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But the update did add support for more bands according to some posts ive read here on xda...more bands doesnt mean unlock...just means the possibility of att expanding there lte network with some new bands
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graydiggy said:
The extra bands are unlocked through the service menus. Not through a modem. If that were the case, the update would unlock your device for any GSM carrier. AT&T is not going to do that.
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Yeah AT&T opened up access to lte band 2 and 5 with the mf3 on their modem. Probably for international oversea purposes/partnership?
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If you want the MF3 rom and/or kernel, check out this thread. If you want just the modem (baseband), check out the latest addition, File #11 in that same thread.
Otherwise, I think this thread has been hijacked enough, and the original purpose has been served, in my opinion. The MF3 source is practically useless to anyone except Devs that want to build their own kernels.
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If you want the MF3 rom and/or kernel, check out this thread. If you want just the modem (baseband), check out the latest addition, File #11 in that same thread.
Otherwise, I think this thread has been hijacked enough, and the original purpose has been served, in my opinion. The MF3 source is practically useless to anyone except Devs that want to build their own kernels.
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Could the kernel source also be useful to those looking to find an exploit in MF3 (to unlock the bootloader or something to that effect), or is the kernel too high-level for that sort of thing?
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Could the kernel source also be useful to those looking to find an exploit in MF3 (to unlock the bootloader or something to that effect), or is the kernel too high-level for that sort of thing?
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Pretty sure it's too high level. It might be useful for finding a root exploit, but that's been done already for MF3. It wouldn't be useful for finding a way to unlock the bootloaders, but the only slim help it could find in this area is perhaps providing clues to understanding "aboot" more, and how it checks for signatures on, and loads the kernel. But even still, that's a longshot. TBH, anyone who might be looking for exploits here should already be aware of the source code's existence, plus this sort of exploit would brobably be little different between MF3 and MDL.
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Also, welcome to XDA!
Excuse the possibly noobish question here, but what does this mean for the new root status? My phone came with MF3 and I really would like to get some custom ROMs on here. :?
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dlv_ said:
Excuse the possibly noobish question here, but what does this mean for the new root status? My phone came with MF3 and I really would like to get some custom ROMs on here. :?
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No custom ROMs yet. Only root
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No custom ROMs yet. Only root
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The one that needs the micro SD card, correct?
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