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I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....
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thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
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As many of you probably know from the coverage at CES, a slew of manufacturers are coming out with Windows 8 laptops that will double as tablets too. For instance, Sony has a model in the making where the screen slides down to become essentially a tablet. Another one is Lenovo, with a laptop where the screen turns all the way around to become a tablet. The one and only problem with these offerings is Windows 8. Sure, I welcome Windows 8 as a laptop OS, I've always used Windows. But when it comes to a phone/tablet OS, I don't really find any Windows offering that intriguing. I dread the thought of leaving Android and ending up with two seperate OS's and sets of apps and such on my phone and tablet. I'm sure as heck not moving to a windows phone anytime soon either.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/26...o-tablet-prototypes-future-windows-8-hardware
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/9/26...-windows-8-laptop-that-bends-backwards-into-a
So my questions are, do you guys think some devs will find a way to dual boot Android onto some of these devices? What will you buy for your phone, laptop, and tablet? I've read a few articles where some manufacturers are going to ship out their devices with BOTH Android and Windows 8, but I can't seem to find where I read that, and I don't believe any of the big name manufacturers were the ones doing it.
Android will at least be able to run in a virtual box, likely more. However, android's presence in the tablet market is... Underwhelming at best.
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Android will at least be able to run in a virtual box, likely more. However, android's presence in the tablet market is... Underwhelming at best.
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But right now, Windows 8 looks like a bastard child as a tablet OS. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll have to wait and see until it can be auditioned in person. The fact of the matter is that Android has most the market share for phones. People are going to want the same OS on their tablet for the sake of simplicity and not having to learn a whole new OS and buy a whole new set of apps. I'm hoping some of the big names catch on and send the devices with both Android and Win8. That would be a win-win for both the manufacturer and consumer IMO.
I'm looking forward to seeing what android can do once there's more ICS tablets as far as an ecosystem goes, I still think there's a lot of games and programs that they'll lack opposed to the 15+ years of PC games. I'm shocked that there's not a WoW client for android. Despite disliking WoW, it's not very resource heavy and it is massively popular.
I'm still convinced in the end, Win8 will be a hit.
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I'm still convinced in the end, Win8 will be a hit.
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I'm excited to have it on my laptop, but I'm not so sure about on a tablet. I hate the thought of having two seperate OS's on my phone and tablet. Viewsonic made a tablet about a year ago that shipped with the ability to dualboot into win7 and android. I hope Sony and others go for that idea...
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tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...
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tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...
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I don't think they can do worst than Vista
The introduction of the Tablet and the continued development of the phone has given consumers more choice, but has also led to more name confusion.
The Tablet is like a Net-book without a keyboard and is a good name because it doesn't include the name of any particular device or application. For example, you can use a Tablet for making phone calls or taking pictures without having to call it a phone or a camera. A Tablet can be any size, for the name just describes the shape and not it's use, though it is generally accepted as being a multi-function device. So keyboard less smart phones can be called Tablets.
Adding a detachable keyboard to a Tablet makes it better for those applications where a keyboard and extra battery and Ports are useful .
So given these extra choices the consumer has to decide which suits them best.
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tested win8 in a vm from my point of view is the worst windows os yet...
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How can anything be worse than Windows ME? My machine I got when ME came out blue screened right out of the box and needed to be restored. ^_^
I think it really depends on the productivity software available for Android and iOS when Windows 8 tablets/laptops start rolling out. I'm running into a lot of people who want to use tablets instead of laptops for their on-the-go work/computing needs.
Really not feeling Windows 8 at all, I think it'll struggle to outdo 7.
However, there will always be people who jump to get the "latest and greatest" software/hardware so I'm sure it'll do fine
Somewhere I read you could turn off the metro style (tiles) of windows 8. But let's face it, touch integration is the way for the future and I read laptops are moving towards both touch screen with the keyboard and trackpad with optional mouse. But to the user referring to tablets attached to keyboard docks. I think these will be much more than that. I think they will have more power than let's say an Asus transformer with a keyboard dock (glorified netbook). Thus I think these will lean more toward the laptop end, just thinner. At least that's what I hope.
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So, the news spreads fast. The first phone to get it will be GNex. Hoping developers will make me (and many others) happy and let us give it a try...
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
Luckily, Ubuntu is supported from our HTC One S. So when the Ubuntu's image for Galaxy Nexus will be released, which good developer will take/port it to our phones ? On web people say that will be very easy port/take Ubuntu's Image for Galaxy Nexus to Mobile Phones with 1GB of Ram and Dual Core.
This would be awesome because Ubuntu doesnt give a **** about the Java vm and we could have native apps like wp8 and ios
Gonna follow this thread. Interesting !
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This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
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So that you can have a different version for every chipset and phone with incompatible drivers and incomprehensible instructions, just what the Linux community love.
"You want to what? make a phone call? that functionality won't be available until version 10.0.4.9.6.3.1 spangly-sugababe on your chipset."
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This raises a question right away in my head: Why? Whats the point?
We already have a working linux-based, open source OS - Android
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I didn't understood the answer above, so here's mine - because Android is far from a pocket PC, in what will Ubuntu turn it in. And for all the people who know why they are here - "curiosity" and experimenting is the right answer.
This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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This looks good for people who don't use many apps.. Which allows the clean interface.. Maybe good for the older crowd.
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Yeah, android started a few years ago with 3000000 apps in the store
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having a full OS is nice, docking it and connecting to a monitor will transform your phone in a Desktop PC but, unfortunatelly, at least for now the system is veeery laggy and they don't have any release plans till 2014, by then Android and iOS will evolve even more and the 'need' for this kind of OS will no longer exist. Just MHO.
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
Kernel
File system
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The following files are incompatible with Angry Birds and will be uninstalled.
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Lol I love seeing some people who know Linux. While we giggle at these jokes others are like "huh?" Lol.
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The thing is, unless they plan on only releasing it on x86 devices, the compability will be terrible. So you will have a full desktop OS, with no "easy" way to install programs.
Its the same as Win8 ARM-version. Its not like you can install PC-games on it etc...
I really dont see the point in bringing in another mobile OS at this point. Android and iOS have had years to develop within the communities, and both OS's hosts a huge amount of apps.
The only thing android is missing for being a "laptop replacement", imo, is better multitasking, and ability to run every app in a small window instead of fullscreen (like OverSkreen and AirCalc).
And, of course, a taskbar to quickly change between windows.
Implement those things and I'll throw my laptop out of the window lol.
It will be compatible with both ARM and x86. And if it is using the resources more wisely - then give it to me. I miss many of the PC OS's functions on Android. And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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And if Android one day gets windowed style apps - it will need 16GB or RAM and 24 core CPU and a truck sized battery to feed this.
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No it wont.
Edit: well obviously if you insist of having 10 million programs open at once like on a PC, then yes.
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Ah but which ARM chips? if it's anything like the support for current ARM products it will be only a very small selection of devices and even then getting it to work on a device with this graphics chip and that camera will be a difficult task, but that's for devs to worry about. What joe public will see is every phone with a completely different GUI and no 'standard' between them, which is what manufacturers want, so they can tie us into their own product line as per IOS.
Somebody posted elsewhere that Samsung were going to come up with their own OS, I disagreed but if Linux Mobile becomes a reality I may be proved wrong.
They said that will use even the same drivers as android. Both are linux based. So don't worry. Just wait, if you aare interested.
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Ubuntu will run fine. If it's something you're interested in having then it didn't be a long wait. Rumor was the image for the nexus would be out real soon. So if some good devs still working on the one s wanted to they could get it going in our phones.
I'd like to run Ubuntu on my phone only because I use it on my pc and its so nice and light. Boots fast and is so light weight
Hope we get to taste it real soon!
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I am looking forward to this as well can't wait to run it. I'm a big supporter of the Ubuntu software.
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Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Just looking to poll people to see if they still find value in these Windows RT App ports.
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Still finding value for ports since I just downgraded back to 8.0... Until 8.1 is jailbroken I am still interested in 8.0..
Heck yes. You're doing amazing work and benefiting the entire community with it.
One program I would like ported is the game Osu! It is perfect for tablets and I wish it was ported to the RT platform.
Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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Im pretty sure there are quite a bit of people who care. Don't expect recognition from the work you've done. Just be glad you made an app that someone can use. Don't ruin it for the people who want more programs ported to the RT platform.
MS is still locking windows rt.desktop app for windows rt is game over.next time I prefer atom based tablet.I will say good bye to metro only device.
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Unfortunately no. I have ported few apps myself but after seeing lack of interest/lack of appreciation for my work I decided to give up. Not that I need constant praise for what I do and call me dork but I like the feeling that time and effort I put into something result in things that matters to anybody. Unfortunately Windows RT homebrew scene(that's how I call that "desktop apps on Windows RT movement") didn't get of the ground, nobody seems to care, just look at this forum. Someone had to say that.
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For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.
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For what it's worth, I think what you're doing is awesome. I haven't had a chance to try qupzilla due to my tablet being in various states of disarray, but I have used FileZilla, Synergy, and I played around with your Quake 3 port.
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You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.
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You have mistaken me with bfosterjr. I'm responsible for some other ports.
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My bad, I misread the username who posted it.
As far as what I see you've posted, I believe all I've used was PrBoom.
That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community, and I'm sure that others greatly value the work you're doing. I know I do.
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That being said, doing any ports (especially games, those draw people in) is a great help to the community....
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Agreed. I've noticed that the most download ports have been Quake and Quake 2. Sadly, a bit of the hype died down by the time the DX9 runtime was found and Quake3 was ported. I realize they're not "ground breaking games".. but they're probably the most influential games which just _need_ to be ported before the platform gets any attention. I know early on there was an effort to have a package manager idea floated around to more easily allow people using the Jailbreak to more 'easily' get apps. I'm wondering if something like that would help boost interest again? Any other ideas?
I've certainly noticed a decline in interest the last couple months. I wasn't sure if people lost interest in Jailbroken related apps.. or if Windows RT is just dying a slow death in general. Hence the poll. I've certainly got more apps I'd like to port.. but it does take significant effort sometimes.. and there only seems to be few others contributing apps.
I dont own an RT device but I do love seeing the work that you guys put in to make this platform viable. I dont see myself getting an RT device until they are substantially cheaper than their x86 counterparts and either microsoft pull the chokes out so we can have unregulated access to run our own applications or I can have linux on it and neither of those are likely to happen. Linux on there would be very attractive to me personally.
The work you guys do though is probably the only thing keeping RT useful. I love the idea of RT, but its been poorly executed. In my opinion for RT to be successful it needs to be the full windows 8 experience on ARM, no limitations for drivers and software, OpenGL (well ES would be an acceptable limitation given the hardware) and the whole shebang.
I think MinGW for ARM will probably help the scene a little more. Once its out there then thats a huge ecosystem of software which might well be portable to run on the RT. Even better would be MinGW for ARM running on ARM but I think with MinGW being able to compile itself that its a given you will have that.
I'm still interested, but it is diminishing over time - running 8.1 now so no JB, using the device more and more as an actual productivity device and less as a fun hacking toy, more apps available, etc...
I've not done any ports in a while (real life cutting into hack time) but I did a couple. Was very fun
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Especially since mamiach's newly uncovered hole in Asus VivoTabs, it seems like an 8.1 exploit will be feasible in the future once 8.1 is officially finalized. So your ports are just as valuable as ever - thanks a ton for all your hard work!
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killer app
so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?
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so.. to the ~10% of you that said we're missing a killer app..
Whats the killer app?
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Chrome.
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Chrome.
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GoodDayToDie was attempting chromium (open source chrome) but my understanding is that it was a huge code base for him to try himself.
Pretty much, yep. I'm going to try again with the new release that's based on their new engine. Some stuff, like the sandbox, still will not work; I'm not going to re-write all their API hooking assembly in THUMB-2 until I find myself way lower on number of projects than I have right now - and for the first release I'm also going to probably go with interpreted JS instead of JIT compiled, so it will be a lot slower. Most of the other features (screw NaCl) should work, though.
I am super grateful for the work you guys have put in. I imagine MiniGW is hindering the breadth of things that can be ported. I know the game I am looking for Ultrastar Deluxe (Open Source Singstar) would get a heap of use from me if I could get it on the Surface RT.
another "killer-app" would be VLC-Player With all These super codecs
Sorry if this question or something similar has already been asked, but I searched the 10.1 2014 boards, as well as these boards, and did not find the answer to my question.
Basically, I am curious to know if anyone knows if it is possible to install firmware designed for the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition on the original (2012). I am really starting to get tired waiting around for the 4.3 or 4.4 update (or even 4.2!), which at this point I really don't think is coming, and since the 2014 Edition ships with 4.3, I thought flashing 2014 Edition 4.3 firmware would potentially be a way to finally get 4.3 on my device!
If anyone knows if this is possible, please let me know! I don't want to risk just trying it out to see if it works for fear of bricking my device.
Thanks!
If only it were that easy...sorry....no it is not possible.
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If only it were that easy...sorry....no it is not possible.
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Aww. Damn. I was really hoping this could be a solution to updating my tablet, since Samsung has clearly abandoned this device.
Oh well, it was worth a shot!
Just CPU is impossible. Not to mention 2014 edition has 4x more screen resolution.
If you are interested in trying custom roms, then you may have some choices to try newer OS.
For example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550308
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If you are interested in trying custom roms, then you may have some choices to try newer OS.
For example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550308
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How do you put back some of the Samsung apps that have been left out by the OMNI Team?
That's why it is better to check differend roms and then decide if it is worth to try them. Omni was just an example and with many replies on that thread to realize that custom roms are not the same as an official and you may loose some Samsung features if those are important.
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I hate my life and i wanna die , i aint got no update -_-
Unlike windows OS where same version can be installed on any PC which got min hardware requirements,Android is fragmented in such a way that its impossible to use a later version device OS on an old device even if its same brand.I believe soon these vendor specific alterations (such as Touchwiz) will be optional or removable.And then it may be possible to upgrade the core android alone like in nexus devices and vendors only need to update their styled UIs and applications in play store.
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I hate my life and i wanna die , i aint got no update -_-
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You will probably appreciate this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-lays-out-which-devices-will-get-android-442-kitkat
Hopefully we actually get the update this time! It wouldn't be the first time we never got a promised update.
Yes and NO WAY Will it happen
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Unlike windows OS where same version can be installed on any PC which got min hardware requirements,Android is fragmented in such a way that its impossible to use a later version device OS on an old device even if its same brand.I believe soon these vendor specific alterations (such as Touchwiz) will be optional or removable.And then it may be possible to upgrade the core android alone like in nexus devices and vendors only need to update their styled UIs and applications in play store.
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The first part of this i agree with .But my opinion is the Venders make such changes to the os Not just to brand it and make it there own. They do this in a way so that you Can not Continue to get OS updates for years down the road. Even months on some lower end devices. This is to make the Device no longer viable and force you into buying a new device. We live in A Corp. Created disposable Goods. If things last they make less money..
I Also believe many people are getting tired of this.It could be what brings windows tablets to a top running in the mobile market.
I have been looking very hard at the true cpu tablets that are coming out. Prices coming down as well.
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I Also believe many people are getting tired of this.It could be what brings windows tablets to a top running in the mobile market. I have been looking very hard at the true cpu tablets that are coming out. Prices coming down as well.
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Well that's one of the many reasons why I'm really excited about Ubuntu Touch / Ubuntu Mobile / Ubuntu for Phones, or whatever the hell they are calling it these days (lol it seems like they change their mind on which of those 3 it actually is every other day). If everything goes well, we should see the first Ubuntu powered mobile devices later this year. Things were looking a little squirrely for a while, with Ubuntu unable to partner with any OEMs, but just a few days ago they released a statement that they have entered into production deals with the OEMs BQ (from Spain) and Meizu (from China). They also plan on selling Ubuntu powered devices world-wide via their website once they start production. These devices I think are really going to be the best combination between power and utility, combining the best of the full computer and mobile worlds. I just wish the Ubuntu Edge had succeeded! THAT woulda been the greatest mobile device ever! Just imagine the high end tablets running Ubuntu that phone would have inspired had it actually been made.
margentieri said:
Well that's one of the many reasons why I'm really excited about Ubuntu Touch / Ubuntu Mobile / Ubuntu for Phones, or whatever the hell they are calling it these days (lol it seems like they change their mind on which of those 3 it actually is every other day). If everything goes well, we should see the first Ubuntu powered mobile devices later this year. Things were looking a little squirrely for a while, with Ubuntu unable to partner with any OEMs, but just a few days ago they released a statement that they have entered into production deals with the OEMs BQ (from Spain) and Meizu (from China). They also plan on selling Ubuntu powered devices world-wide via their website once they start production. These devices I think are really going to be the best combination between power and utility, combining the best of the full computer and mobile worlds. I just wish the Ubuntu Edge had succeeded! THAT woulda been the greatest mobile device ever! Just imagine the high end tablets running Ubuntu that phone would have inspired had it actually been made.
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ubuntu touch is a patched version of CM With a custom user interface. Its not going to be a FULL BLOWN operating system. its another mobile os. And development is moving slow.
This is from what i read last year anyway
erica_renee said:
ubuntu touch is a patched version of CM With a custom user interface. Its not going to be a FULL BLOWN operating system. its another mobile os. And development is moving slow.
This is from what i read last year anyway
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I'm sorry to tell you, but you are SORELY misinformed. The final release will be a full and complete version of Ubuntu. The ultimate plan is to have 1 operating system for all devices with a different user interface depending on the interface system available. When using as a phone or tablet, the mobile interface will be present, the tablet version being slightly different and optimized for larger screens. Now take an Ubuntu phone or tablet and plug it into a dock with screen and keyboard and the regular Unity Ubuntu desktop will appear. Read up on it on their website. The next LTS release of Ubuntu is supposed to do away with the separate Ubuntu Touch moniker completely. At that point, the exact same Ubuntu you install on your computer is the Ubuntu you install on your mobile device. This is the concept of convergence that is so central to the system they are developing.
margentieri said:
I'm sorry to tell you, but you are SORELY misinformed. The final release will be a full and complete version of Ubuntu. The ultimate plan is to have 1 operating system for all devices with a different user interface depending on the interface system available. When using as a phone or tablet, the mobile interface will be present, the tablet version being slightly different and optimized for larger screens. Now take an Ubuntu phone or tablet and plug it into a dock with screen and keyboard and the regular Unity Ubuntu desktop will appear. Read up on it on their website. The next LTS release of Ubuntu is supposed to do away with the separate Ubuntu Touch moniker completely. At that point, the exact same Ubuntu you install on your computer is the Ubuntu you install on your mobile device. This is the concept of convergence that is so central to the system they are developing.
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wow that would amazing if possible. I looked at the ubuntu again on my nexus and its still nothing more then a user interface that does not work right and has no practical use other then to see what it might look like if it actually became something real..
But anyway i was no trying to argue with you. I just do not think its something we will see anytime soon.
erica_renee said:
wow that would amazing if possible. I looked at the ubuntu again on my nexus and its still nothing more then a user interface that does not work right and has no practical use other then to see what it might look like if it actually became something real..
But anyway i was no trying to argue with you. I just do not think its something we will see anytime soon.
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Yea, right now it is still in development and is not at the point of convergence. That should be changing this year, however.
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You will probably appreciate this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-lays-out-which-devices-will-get-android-442-kitkat
Hopefully we actually get the update this time! It wouldn't be the first time we never got a promised update.
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I hope so..........
Thanks anyway
and i was actually singing on my comment
Check it out ^_^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pjLKjER-xQ