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Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
ilya124 said:
Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
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contacts are stored on your google account in the cloud, pictures and videos can be backed up to the pc. Rooting with cyanogen or super d would be a good idea. the best guide in my opinion is on: theunlockr.com
But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
ilya124 said:
But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
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don't worry about the sd card side of things for the moment. it's totally optional and the two extra partitions are for moving your apps to the sd card to free up space - shouldn't actually be an issue on a mt3g as it has more storage than the g21 anyway, and adding a swap partition to 'increase' the ram - only used on some roms, mainly hero ones, and not strictly necessary. i would recommend, folloing the many guides on here and theunlockr to get a custom recovery and flashing either WG or superD - don't worry about the talk of danger spl or upgrading your radio - again, that's just for g1 users.
you should see a massive speed increase without the need to partition your card. if you then feel the need to do it anyway, make sure you're using a fast one (ideally class 6, but class 4 will do at a push) and use the amon RA recovery (remember to flash the mt3g one on your phone and not the g1 one) - there's an option on there that will do it all for you.
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Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
-D
MN_Evolution said:
Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
-D
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If any important data is in those folders, you should save them on your computer. For example, pictures in DCIM folder, music, videos.... or documents that you created..
While creating the gold card, the sd card will be formatted and you will lose all data.
After the phone is rooted, you can then format the card using the phone's "Format SD card" tool, and then use the card as normal.
All those folders will be recreated once those apps are installed.
Edit: Also, if you look in the Dev's section, there are tools that will help you with the whole process of rooting your phone.
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Use a proxy site to be able to watch the video at your work place. Something like this --> http://www.proxeasy.com/webclient.aspx EDIT: Scratch that... This proxy site doesn't allow flash content unless you subscribe. Sorry. You can try other proxy sites
The inspire is my second android phone. I had the captivate and it was very easy to root. Prior to the captivate, I had the eyephone. So glad I went with an android phone. Sick and tired of the same UI with iphones.
Although the entire rooting process for the inspire seems overwhelming, it's actually pretty straight forward when you follow the instructions.
I haven't heard anyone "bricking" their inspire yet and if you get stuck in the rooting process, search the forums and you will most likely find your solution.
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
MN_Evolution said:
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
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I used the hack kit. Went ok. Had some slight issue when i tried to use a 1GB SD card that apparently is too small for a gold card. So, then I decided to just use the SD card that came with the phone and all went well!
I also have to agree with hating itunes... They keep cramming useless features and just makes the whole user experience a little less interesting.
Im glad that with android devices, you don't need any specific program to sync your stuff to the phone... Just plug in and done!
I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
Rooting this phone will fix your problem and will take a novice 20min and a pro 3-5min, choice is yours though
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As demkantor said, rooting the SK4G is not very tough even for newcomers. Pretty straightforward and once you finish the process you can use those shiny new root permissions to delete things like the app-pack, qik-vidchat, and all that other bologna. Check the dev section and it's all there.
I agree, just root and install a lightweight ROM. It's not that difficult or time-consuming. Then you can tailor the phone to your liking. Or you can try Googling "android remove bloatware without root." Quite a few how-tos will come up, although I can't vouch for any of them.
Easy remove
rareasasparagus said:
I'm running the stock OS on my sidekick and am running out of memory on the internal SD card. It can't run the updates. I have only a handful of apps downloaded. T-mobile won't let me delete a whole host of stupid apps I never use. I went through and moved everything to the external SD card that would move (very few apps are willing to move, grrrrr). I even deleted the updates to all the stupid apps that can't be moved on the assumption that they always get larger over time (is this a correct assumption?) and turned off the auto en masse updating.
Anyway, I'm out of ideas. I guess this is a rant because I don't have much hope. It annoys me no end that the idea of android and having control of the device gets destroyed by the carriers.
Still loving the keyboard. I'd marry it if it was legal to.
[I just want a phone that does a few things reliably and I don't want to spend the hours I did with my last android rooting and re-rooting it, I added it up and it was 16 hours, at least, at 125 an hour for my personal time it was the single most expensive thing I've ever owned.]
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For the easy then, SuperOneClick works for root. it's super and one click for the sk4g. "Titanium backup" can then delete everything that has a neon pink icon (TMO bundled crap, there is lots) Most of the "neon pink" is safe to remove, please someone correct me if something doesn't fit the large generalization.
Should be less than an hour.
For your problem root the phone then update superuser an download /system/app an you can delte the useless apps from tmobile or stuff you don't use
Or you can install a rom which would fix a lot of problems
P.s. also after root download clean master an run it every few days go through an delete the bs stuff you don't use folders that were not deleted
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Alright I am absolutely PI$$ED OFF. I installed 2.0.0 earlier this morning and I've been at it all day trying to fix all the stuff that "update" broke. Moment I installed it my wifi & camera ceased to function, moments later WhatsApp is crashing. So after trying to fix those issues I gave up and restored a backup back to 1.8.0 right? Well now my wifi and camera work but all of Googles bull**** is crashing (google play services, something else) and WhatsApp is still messed up. I installed a new copy of gapps and the google crashing is still persisting. WhatsApp I can't really do much about because I'm using an old number on it to prevent from giving people my new one and i don't want to lose that privilege. The only way I can even use my phone is by slowly getting to Titanium backup and freezing them all. I've wiped my /system, /cache and dalvik cache about 5 times and still no luck. I can't even begin to see how this could relate to my /data partition as I was sure to not let the 2.0.0 update touch it but if it is then please tell me cause I am so fed up right now that I'm ready to toss this phone into a wall then snap it in half and set it on fire.
(THIS IS ABOUT ViperROM)
What in the the Nar Shadda do I have to do to fix these phone wrecking issues? I just want to use the version I've been using for the past month or so again, honestly if I'd known I would have to deal with this much crap I never would've EVER installed this update.
Now on to a little less venting and to more explaining, I've had this wifi issue that I had on 2.0.0 back when I first switched to KitKat on my old Galaxy S4. The camera issue I have never experienced and none of the fixes fixed it except downgrading to 1.8.0, the camera would never display anything on the default camera app & when i downloaded googles camera it would say "Can't connect to camera". on the google apps topic i figured installing a new gapps would solve it but apparently i am wrong. Whatsapp issue i haven't the slightest clue.
Sounds like some sort of firmware problem to me.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Alright I am absolutely PI$$ED OFF. I installed 2.0.0 earlier this morning and I've been at it all day trying to fix all the stuff that "update" broke. Moment I installed it my wifi & camera ceased to function, moments later WhatsApp is crashing. So after trying to fix those issues I gave up and restored a backup back to 1.8.0 right? Well now my wifi and camera work but all of Googles bull**** is crashing (google play services, something else) and WhatsApp is still messed up. I installed a new copy of gapps and the google crashing is still persisting. WhatsApp I can't really do much about because I'm using an old number on it to prevent from giving people my new one and i don't want to lose that privilege. The only way I can even use my phone is by slowly getting to Titanium backup and freezing them all. I've wiped my /system, /cache and dalvik cache about 5 times and still no luck. I can't even begin to see how this could relate to my /data partition as I was sure to not let the 2.0.0 update touch it but if it is then please tell me cause I am so fed up right now that I'm ready to toss this phone into a wall then snap it in half and set it on fire.
(THIS IS ABOUT ViperROM)
What in the the Nar Shadda do I have to do to fix these phone wrecking issues? I just want to use the version I've been using for the past month or so again, honestly if I'd known I would have to deal with this much crap I never would've EVER installed this update.
Now on to a little less venting and to more explaining, I've had this wifi issue that I had on 2.0.0 back when I first switched to KitKat on my old Galaxy S4. The camera issue I have never experienced and none of the fixes fixed it except downgrading to 1.8.0, the camera would never display anything on the default camera app & when i downloaded googles camera it would say "Can't connect to camera". on the google apps topic i figured installing a new gapps would solve it but apparently i am wrong. Whatsapp issue i haven't the slightest clue.
Sounds like some sort of firmware problem to me.
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First thing. Before you ever take a update... Have you ever heard of a nandroid...
Second. Did you check your md5?
Third. Actually try wiping your data partition... When switching ROMs or even doing a update to a ROM with a new version such as 4.4.3 from 4.4.2 it's smart to wipe data and everything except internal and external SD card.
Forth. Why did you install a new GAPPS? That WILL cause crashes...
Fifth. We don't have updated firmware for 4.4.3 with a 2.22 base. That will cause some issues. It's a given.
Sixth. Have you tried a clean flash of viper 2.0?
Seventh. Have you tried installing another ROM. If so did you have the issues there.
Sent From My HTC One M8 Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.
I agree with person above me...don't flash viper 2.0 till we have 4.4.4 firmware.
An why not flash stock recovery do a factory reset an then go one about your way with it back to out of box set up.
Tigerstown said:
I agree with person above me...don't flash viper 2.0 till we have 4.4.4 firmware.
An why not flash stock recovery do a factory reset an then go one about your way with it back to out of box set up.
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I didn't really read up too much on 4.4.3 other than it was a security patch I believe? & I considered that but I had tons of messages which I would lose that were important beyond what I'm willing to explain. In the end I said f*** it and just restored my 12 day old backup. Really the only thing stopping me from doing that is my WhatsApp account, I have it setup to use one of my old phone numbers so I never have to disclose real information when I want to give someone my WA. Losing that would mean giving a lot of people something I really don't want to give out...
Now onto the person above me and his idea of my Nandroid doings, yes I have some but I don't have the storage to keep making them everytime I flash something which is practically every week knowing me. & before someone tells me to quit being a lazy "idiot" I simply don't want to spend the time deleting my backups every month when I run out of storage, much un-needed inconvenience. Yup could put them on PC, too bad I'm also running out of storage there too. Could use cloud, no, not into putting my private information and files onto a highly vulnerable privacy invading idiotic creation. In before someone insults me for calling the cloud idiotic, yes it is. I stand by that and have no intents on replying to anyone that may bring that up.
Onto the /data topic, it shouldn't have even touched my data partition if it was just a mere "update". & just now I went and read up on 4.4.3/4.4.4 and the differences = Bug fix & Security update (4.4.4). Most ROM's I've seen actually tell you you don't have to wipe /data unless coming from another ROM, simply that it's better to do it. If it was really such a necessity it should've been stated or stated more seriously/obviously. If 2.0.0 was like Jellybean to Kitkat or Kitkat to Lollipop then yeah i'd understand. If someone with a higher knowledge would like to enlighten me as to why my /data was ruined from such a minor update then feel free to tell me (no more cocky responses after this please, civil only.). Maybe 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 really is a big deal and I just don't realize it & actually it could be the firmware thing the guy above mentioned could be a good reason for it but something I read tells me otherwise, just can't remember it at the moment.
Lastly just incase pball sees this again, for the lols that is.
1. No of course not, I did hear something about a Bandroid 2014 though. Heard it bans all the sarcastic insulting comments to OP's on the internet.
2. No.
3. Might try that if it's ever serious enough to require it. <3.
4. Because I was quite sure it would reinstall the google services, and if you install the correct version for your ROM/OS version I'm pretty sure it shouldn't cause any problems, could be wrong though. Anyways it was not the cause of my GServices crashing anyways.
5. Thanks for the info, I'll consider that next time.
6. Clean as in without wiping /data, yes. With wiping data, no.
7. Yes & the problem went away but I restored to my 12 day old backup of Viper anyways and it's solved now.
52998. Hello!
Anyways problem solved!
/case /closed
You can easily store text on cloud well factory reset. Just FYI. But glad your all set.
There is no correct version of gapps for the ViperOne ROMS. I usually only save the last two nandroid backups as long as everything seems to be working ok. If you want to save the older ones, well . . . . but you don't have the space on your pc. And sdcards are getting real cheap
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Lastly just incase pball sees this again, for the lols that is.
1. No of course not, I did hear something about a Bandroid 2014 though. Heard it bans all the sarcastic insulting comments to OP's on the internet.
2. No.
3. Might try that if it's ever serious enough to require it. <3.
4. Because I was quite sure it would reinstall the google services, and if you install the correct version for your ROM/OS version I'm pretty sure it shouldn't cause any problems, could be wrong though. Anyways it was not the cause of my GServices crashing anyways.
5. Thanks for the info, I'll consider that next time.
6. Clean as in without wiping /data, yes. With wiping data, no.
7. Yes & the problem went away but I restored to my 12 day old backup of Viper anyways and it's solved now.
52998. Hello!
Anyways problem solved!
/case /closed
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Hello, I am back. Just a suggestion in a civil manner. Could you try backing all of your apps up. Make a backup of what you have now, just incase something happens again.. Then, go in and flash the new viper 2.0 or 2.0.1 either or is fine. Please do a clean install. Meaning wipe your data partition. Not your internal SD card not external. In viper I know it gives the option to do a clean install. Please consider actually trying it and seeing the outcome. What's the worst it could do? As for the GAPPS. HTC uses there own personal GAPPS, so it might clash with let's say banks minimal GAPPS. It's not containing the same files and they may just clash with each other. Causing more crashes and instability than before. Somewhat make sense? Lastly, I wasn't trying to be "snarky" or "sarcastic". I may have came across that way, because the way the original post is stated sounds very problematic to some. I went through and listed all the things that could have gone wrong or been happening. Because a lot of ROM threads do mention clean installs with updates or new ROMs. I've seen lots of threads. "If you're having problems please wipe you data, cache, and dalvik cache partition or clean install the ROM again.
Tl;Dr actually try a clean install and check the md5 for matching numbers. A clean install can solve a lot of issues.
Sent From My HTC One M8 Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.
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Hello, I am back. Just a suggestion in a civil manner. Could you try backing all of your apps up. Make a backup of what you have now, just incase something happens again.. Then, go in and flash the new viper 2.0 or 2.0.1 either or is fine. Please do a clean install. Meaning wipe your data partition. Not your internal SD card not external. In viper I know it gives the option to do a clean install. Please consider actually trying it and seeing the outcome. What's the worst it could do? As for the GAPPS. HTC uses there own personal GAPPS, so it might clash with let's say banks minimal GAPPS. It's not containing the same files and they may just clash with each other. Causing more crashes and instability than before. Somewhat make sense? Lastly, I wasn't trying to be "snarky" or "sarcastic". I may have came across that way, because the way the original post is stated sounds very problematic to some. I went through and listed all the things that could have gone wrong or been happening. Because a lot of ROM threads do mention clean installs with updates or new ROMs. I've seen lots of threads. "If you're having problems please wipe you data, cache, and dalvik cache partition or clean install the ROM again.
Tl;Dr actually try a clean install and check the md5 for matching numbers. A clean install can solve a lot of issues.
Sent From My HTC One M8 Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.
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Yes I'll back up the apps tomorrow, I used to do that with titanium and make a flashable zip but It rarely occurs to me to use Titanium anymore. Matter of fact 90% of the time I don't even realize I have it or it even exists. Last time I did it I did the wrong option which probably turned me off from it anyways soo I'll just have to pay attention this time.
I'll install 2.0 another day, too traumatized after my last experience to mess with it again LOL.
On the GAPPS topic yes it makes sense, I was unaware HTC had their own as it doesn't really say anywhere that they do or at least I haven't found anything stating such yet up until your response but yes it makes 100% sense.
& yeah I understand, I was quite frustrated and angry at the time and probably should've waited til I calmed down before originally posting this thread. Anyways my bad for even calling you out on that, I didn't originally plan to respond due to my natural urge to wanna retaliate when I feel I've been insulted, mocked or other words "attacked". Not literally attacked but you get what I'm saying, felt like I needed/wanted to be on the defensive. If that even makes sense, oh well.
Lastly, as to the "If you're having problems please wipe you data, cache, and dalvik cache partition or clean install the ROM again." I may have just skimmed over that and maybe just completely ignored the data part in my head. Having read so many I don't really bother to read anything other than the features and some other stuff anymore. I'd say what other stuff but I'm tired and can't think of it at the moment.
Anyways, thanks for trying to help even though my original post sounded like it was made by an idiotic jack***. How frustration & anger makes you change eh? & apologies for responding to what I thought was a "snarky & offensive" reply with attempt to try the same thing. Night!
My viperone 2.0 works just fine on my verizon m8 boot times are really slow but it works a lot smoother and faster with the update. I will deal with long boot times as its woth it to me, no other problems on mine.
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My viperone 2.0 works just fine on my verizon m8 boot times are really slow but it works a lot smoother and faster with the update. I will deal with long boot times as its woth it to me, no other problems on mine.
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May I ask if you wiped your /data when you installed it? (clean installed)
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May I ask if you wiped your /data when you installed it? (clean installed)
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No I dirty flashed from 1.8 to 2.0.0 then I dirty flashed from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1 because the ota kept coming back corrupt download so I just flashed the full rom to get from 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
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There is no correct version of gapps for the ViperOne ROMS. I usually only save the last two nandroid backups as long as everything seems to be working ok. If you want to save the older ones, well . . . . but you don't have the space on your pc. And sdcards are getting real cheap
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SD cards cheap? Um buy a class 10 scandisk ultra 64g top of the line not cheap by any means it might cost you 70 bucks like mine did but well worth it. Viper ROM needs no gapps its a sense ROM so I'm confused with that.
I have reloaded my S3 rom 3 times because of dumb mistakes. The biggest mistake i ever made was on my posh titan m500 -i think- however where can i get the software to redo it. Its a beautiful phone and i don't know how to manually load A KEYBOARD and also it didn't have google talk like my s3 did. its a hard lesson removing a keyboard. I'm getting very very good at this now. id also like to try a custom rom if there are any good suggestions. i don't know though my s3 is running fantastic however, i keep getting an "insufficient space to download security update for spider or something. how could there be no space ? there is nothing left on the phone app wise and i have a 64 GB SD card. i just cant get a handle on the file system that Samsung uses. you'd think they were some kind of CIA offshoot or something, I'm great with dos based file systems i mean i learned on the original PC and have set up hundreds working in computers but this secrecy crap is out of this world.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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