So, from what I checked on the phonearena site, both phones have the same processors and graphic cards though the GS3 has 2GB of RAM vs the 1GB of the RAZR HD.
My question is this, why is it that the GS3 seems to be so much more smooth in it's operation than the RAZR HD even with custom ROM's? What are we missing?
theoreticaljerk said:
So, from what I checked on the phonearena site, both phones have the same processors and graphic cards though the GS3 has 2GB of RAM vs the 1GB of the RAZR HD.
My question is this, why is it that the GS3 seems to be so much more smooth in it's operation than the RAZR HD even with custom ROM's? What are we missing?
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Possibly because TouchWiz is optimized more than Motorola UI/AOSP. The added gig of RAM helps with performance too.
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Possibly because TouchWiz is optimized more than Motorola UI/AOSP. The added gig of RAM helps with performance too.
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That would be the first time I've ever heard anyone call TouchWiz optimized. lol
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That would be the first time I've ever heard anyone call TouchWiz optimized. lol
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Well, I'm a long time Samsung user going back to Moto and I experienced TouchWiz from GB to JB so I can tell TouchWiz has gone through a huge transformation in that time span.
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I'm wondering why my phone, a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD, spec'd as having 1GB of RAM, actually has total usable RAM of 822MB (202MB less than 1GB). My Asus Droid tablet (Transformer Infinity TF700T) is also spec'd as having 1GB of RAM and has total usable RAM of 975MB. They are both running ICS. So on my Motorola phone, 80% of the RAM is usable, and on my Asus tablet, 95% of the RAM is usable. What's up with my phone? I need that 202MB - what is using it, and can I get it back?
For comparison, I just looked at my Windows 7 notebook. It has 8GB RAM with 7.89GB usable, or 98.6%.
I suppose some small amount of the RAM is needed for overhead, but typically not much. 80% is really low and really weird, and I'd like to know what's causing this. I've googled but found nothing. Does anyone here know?
I'd assume the 20% is perminantly dedicated to system apps or apps/processes moto/Verizon deem important. Just a guess though.
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GoClifGo05 said:
I'd assume the 20% is perminantly dedicated to system apps or apps/processes moto/Verizon deem important. Just a guess though.
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I'm wondering why my phone, a Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD, spec'd as having 1GB of RAM, actually has total usable RAM of 822MB (202MB less than 1GB). My Asus Droid tablet (Transformer Infinity TF700T) is also spec'd as having 1GB of RAM and has total usable RAM of 975MB. They are both running ICS. So on my Motorola phone, 80% of the RAM is usable, and on my Asus tablet, 95% of the RAM is usable. What's up with my phone? I need that 202MB - what is using it, and can I get it back?
For comparison, I just looked at my Windows 7 notebook. It has 8GB RAM with 7.89GB usable, or 98.6%.
I suppose some small amount of the RAM is needed for overhead, but typically not much. 80% is really low and really weird, and I'd like to know what's causing this. I've googled but found nothing. Does anyone here know?
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In this case, yes, you are looking at a lot of RAM being used by the Video Card. But the system processes as well. There are a lot of applications that are running that you have no other option but to run (bloatware and other Verizon bullsh*t). It is a generally recognized problem with the amount of usable RAM, but hopefully when Verizon decides to remove the rest of their stuff, which they vowed to, it will help a bit. If there's something I'm not seeing, I'd love to know, but this is just what I have been able to recognize thus far.
Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
EyeAndroid said:
My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet.
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We've been over this a thousand times on these forums.
The TF700 has a resolution of 1920 x 1200
The SGS3 has a resolution of 1280 x 720
More pixels means more lag. Regardless of the rest of the hardware. You want a faster tablet, get a low-resolution one.
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Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
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If I were you, I'd go to CRomI 3.1 Odex with disabled fsync (seriously: there are no risks 'cause the stock kernel is as stable as a rock).
I too am an SIII user (with 1 gig of RAM) but I really do think the tf700 isn't slow at all.
Maybe you forgot to update your bootloader when going form ICS to JB?
I am getting near 7000 on Quadrant (which is not really a good benchmark app, but it gives an idea of what scores you'll be able to get with the tf700.
I can only compare the original ROM to CleanROM and CROMi haven't tried other ROMs.
No dock here either so I wouldn't have input there.
My experience with the stock ROM was a heartache.
Jelly Bean just didn't come thru as promised far as I could see.
Since going thru the learning process to flash CleanROM\Clemsyns, then continuing on with CROMi there was no looking back.
This I consider a complete solution to my disappointment with the Infinity.
Almost returned the tablet to Amazon so glad I kept it now.
Not sure why some stock tabs run with such lagginess.
Oddly I fiddled with one in a store just 2 days ago and it was very smooth.
My recommendation would be an obvious one.
*Be advised once you start ROMing you may get hooked
right now i have razr maxx and i want to change with xt925 'razr hd'
please tell me how much xt925 better than my phone in camera, gameing and etc
thanks for your answer
any answer ?
A quick comparison in gsmarena.Com should do the trick, but if you are going to upgrade might as well get the ultra Maxx, better than RAZR max hd. Just no expandable storage
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Just have a quick http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4970&idPhone2=4273 Comparing the XT925 vs the xt910 Newer processor, NFC, bigger higher res screen.
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A quick comparison in gsmarena.Com should do the trick, but if you are going to upgrade might as well get the ultra Maxx, better than RAZR max hd. Just no expandable storage
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thanks in my country only i find Razr HD and there is no Razr HD Maxx or Ultra or Maxx
i know Gsmarena nad Phonearena nad cnet and etc but i want to know how much Razr HD better than Razr Maxx in Work not in config !!
AndroidGreg said:
Just have a quick http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4970&idPhone2=4273 Comparing the XT925 vs the xt910 Newer processor, NFC, bigger higher res screen.
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i think you work with two devices can you tell me how much new processor work better in play game and play HD movie ?
another question how much space razr hd had for install apps ?
My 16gb RAZR hd had 11.2gb of space, now that I have a custom rom, plus apps I have 6 biggest app is real racing 3,at 1. 5gb but I have 32gb card and there I have 9gb free space ,
It plays all modern games smoothly =)
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My 16gb RAZR hd had 11.2gb of space, now that I have a custom rom, plus apps I have 6 biggest app is real racing 3,at 1. 5gb but I have 32gb card and there I have 9gb free space ,
It plays all modern games smoothly =)
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any crash or force close ?
and otg 'usb on go' can read flash memory card or USB external H.D.D ?
I haven't tried usb on the go unfortunately
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i think you work with two devices can you tell me how much new processor work better in play game and play HD movie ?
another question how much space razr hd had for install apps ?
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Ive had both, the xt912 max (cmda version of the xt910) and the xt926M (verizon version of the 925 with maxx battery) Very similar phones I can attest to everything on them but battery life of the regular versions as that is the only difference other then the maxx xt926 getting 32gb of memory.
Both have same storage roughly, the x910 had 16 and 11.8 available, plus sd card slot. the x925 has the same 16 gb and 12gb available and supports sd cards officially to 32gb and unofficial to 64gb
Everyone saying no expandable storage is thinking of the NEW droid ULTRAS are the XT-1080, those are the ones without removable storage,
For those that saythe x925/926 dont have a sd card slot, its next to the sim card tray its just a pain to get to because you have to remove the sim with the included tool that i unfortunately lost.
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...
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Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
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well since the moto g is out of the picture, i think one of the many BLU phones would be good for you, i have heard good and bad reports about the battery, most of them have 1g or higher gigs of RAM, its seems that lots of their devices (even with small screens) have a great cpu clocked at 1.5ghz dual core or bigger, i think most of their phones are 4.2 and up. lots of choices with 4.5" and up. as for development support, i think they only have root.
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well since the moto g is out of the picture, i think one of the many BLU phones would be good for you, i have heard good and bad reports about the battery, most of them have 1g or higher gigs of RAM, its seems that lots of their devices (even with small screens) have a great cpu clocked at 1.5ghz dual core or bigger, i think most of their phones are 4.2 and up. lots of choices with 4.5" and up. as for development support, i think they only have root.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Though, I have heard of the blu phone series (life, studio, etc.) but there are many negative reviews on them and the ones that are mostly positive are supposedly framed. So, from what I heard was that some of these BLU labelled phones come DOA, other complaints relate to dead pixels, insta-brick (after a week or so of moderate to heavy usage), unresponsive touchscreens, and of course as you stated, battery life.
Soapy! said:
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...
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I was stuck in the exactly same position. But I also needed a removable battery and an external micro SD card slot. So the moto g was not a good candidate. I ended up going with the optimus f7. It has specs similar to gs3. You should check out the reviews and see what you think.
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jmindset said:
I was stuck in the exactly same position. But I also needed a removable battery and an external micro SD card slot. So the moto g was not a good candidate. I ended up going with the optimus f7. It has specs similar to gs3. You should check out the reviews and see what you think.
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Ahhh yes, I forgot to include external microsd expansion capabilities. Oh yes and thanks, the F7 may not have good dev support but I guess root access is all I need. All I'm really planning to install is Su, viperfx, and some closed modules. Also btw is it possible to skip the boost mobile activation process?
Soapy! said:
Ahhh yes, I forgot to include external microsd expansion capabilities. Oh yes and thanks, the F7 may not have good dev support but I guess root access is all I need. All I'm really planning to install is Su, viperfx, and some closed modules. Also btw is it possible to skip the boost mobile activation process?
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Yeah it is, i learned that when i bought the stupidest phone in the world -_- LG Venice.
Soo.. Yeahh.. I do like the F7's colorful notification light, its 4.7 inch display, and its "4G" capabilities for now... There will always be new contenders to take the belt but for now, Thank You for your help!
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Soo.. Yeahh.. I do like the F7's colorful notification light, its 4.7 inch display, and its "4G" capabilities for now... There will always be new contenders to take the belt but for now, Thank You for your help!
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Enjoy! I to am using an f7. There is an awesome rom that I'm using that I highly recommend. If you got any questions ask me or check out the androidforums f7 threads. Xda doesn't have much f7 support but androidforums has a bunch!
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Soapy! said:
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...
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Try Sony xperia M my frirnd
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Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?
Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?
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Hello Duarteman.. Are you the one from Redondo?
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Hello bcuraman, I'm sorry but I don't know what you meant. I don't know what/where is Redondo...
That's fine.I just thought you were someone that I know.
About your question: it depends on what you're planning to use it for.if its for heavy usage and apps,I would say that 1gb won't be enough. I'm now on Oppo Find 7,and my previous phone was a SGS3, amazing phone but with only 1gb of ram.. It didn't lag that much,but it was noticeable unresponsive with some heavy apps...
If you're one of those people who just intend to use phone,messaging and Facebook,then 1gb is enough... Android L might be a lighter system but that's just the OS.. The apps is what makes the difference...How long the 1gb of ram lasts will depend on the ammount of apps you'd have open and how you feel with the phone itself..
i think 1 GB ram not enough, i have my S890 with 1 GB ram, it had litte lag with JB 4.2 .
Duarteman said:
Hello,
I'm thinking about buying a new phone and I want it to last some time without lags.
After some research, I realized that most phones on the market have 1GB RAM. Even the new Moto G, considered one of the best phones below 200€, has 1GB RAM.
Do you think that 1GB is enough to run smoothly the upcoming Android L with a decent amount of multitasking (Facebook, Tapatalk, Phone, Messaging...) and with minimum lag? How long do you think that this amount of RAM is going to be enough?
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It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.
1 GB RAM is very common now
Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.
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It depends on the phone. Moto G? Yeah, 1GB is enough, because it runs (nearly) stock Android. A phone with a heavy ROM like a Samsung with TouchWiz? 1GB is barely adequate, and you'll see lag.
If you've got 200€ to spend, look at a Nexus 4. 2GB RAM and the processor is still very capable. Especially running stock Android or any custom ROM you can find. No LTE in Europe though, but 42.2Mb/s HSPA+ is still pretty fast.
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I'm looking for a phone with Pure Android but that is not a very important issue. For example, if I buy a Samsung I can change the Stock ROM by a clean AOSP one. The essential thing here is the Hardware. Is 1GB enough for a fluent experience doing the main tasks (Fb, phone, sms, ...) for a few years?
The Nexus 4 is one of the phones I'm thinking about. The only thing that I don't like in it is the camera, it's weak. Other phones I'm thinking about are the HTC One M7 (unfortunately they are still a bit expensive) and the Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (comes with a Quad Core and 2GB RAM). Other phones like the Moto G seem to be a nice deal and I can buy it new for less than 200€ but I'm really afraid that the (lack of) RAM.
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Depends on what you will use your phone for. 1GB will let you easily do the day to day tasks.
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Yes but that is for now... The question is how long will that last.
Thanks for all the replies btw!