Condition of Blackberry - General Topics

hey guys.....this thread is actually about a general discussion.
First tell me for what Blackberry is known for? Its OSBBM right??
But Now BBM is coming for Android and iOS...!!!
Now what will blackberry do to still keep itself in competition?
Any comments?? :cyclops:

Hrishikesh Somchatwar said:
hey guys.....this thread is actually about a general discussion.
First tell me for what Blackberry is known for? Its OSBBM right??
But Now BBM is coming for Android and iOS...!!!
Now what will blackberry do to still keep itself in competition?
Any comments?? :cyclops:
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Here's a question... would you purchase a blackberry just to use BBM?
If you did, how many of your friends currently have a blackberry so that BBM actually becomes useful to you.
Yes the service is highly touted but I believe that RIM has realised that they cannot truly expect to hold on to their user base simply by keeping BBM exclusive. A cross platform chat solution is currently lacking, hence the popularity of whatsapp and other apps like it.
If anything I would say they should have done this sooner, however, maybe they were waiting until the released their new OS, with the belief that it does, now, stand a fighting chance when giving people the option of acquiring BBM one iOS, Android or sticking with RIM

Really?
Anu6is said:
Here's a question... would you purchase a blackberry just to use BBM?
If you did, how many of your friends currently have a blackberry so that BBM actually becomes useful to you.
Yes the service is highly touted but I believe that RIM has realised that they cannot truly expect to hold on to their user base simply by keeping BBM exclusive. A cross platform chat solution is currently lacking, hence the popularity of whatsapp and other apps like it.
If anything I would say they should have done this sooner, however, maybe they were waiting until the released their new OS, with the belief that it does, now, stand a fighting chance when giving people the option of acquiring BBM one iOS, Android or sticking with RIM
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And what about whats app usere ehh?

We may be overlooking the fact that BBM was popular *during* the Blackberry era, when RIM was the reigning king of "smartphones". Fast forward several iPhone and Android releases, I am not so sure RIM's heralded messaging app has the same appeal as it once did. Plus, many people have found a home with other apps like Facebook Messenger, Whats App, etc already.
Side note:
Their latest device the Z10 actually looks great and felt pretty snappy when I played with a demo. Like Microsoft, I think they have an opportunity to carve out a niche following.

Yeah!
runningman04072013 said:
We may be overlooking the fact that BBM was popular *during* the Blackberry era, when RIM was the reigning king of "smartphones". Fast forward several iPhone and Android releases, I am not so sure RIM's heralded messaging app has the same appeal as it once did. Plus, many people have found a home with other apps like Facebook Messenger, Whats App, etc already.
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Their latest device the Z10 actually looks great and felt pretty snappy when I played with a demo. Like Microsoft, I think they have an opportunity to carve out a niche following.
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Well to tell you the truth, users change their favorites every time..!! Remember some years before how people showed their back to orkut? :victory:
And chanced their favorite social networking site to facebook..!!
So it depends on the particular content on what capable it is........if it does make a great impact (BBM) in the android family then people will definitely "MIGRATE" to the BBM.

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Android Dies Tommarrow?

Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
Enjoy!
honeycomb is gunna rock peoples socks!
Do they use cdma in other parts of the world?
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Yeah -- have fun with your iPhone then.
HA It wont be dieing for me. I would never pick a iPhone over an android. Android so much more flexible and inventive in my humble opinion.
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Tomorrow does not have an 'a' in it.
And no, the iPhone will not kill the Android no matter what carrier signs it. iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof -- but the more advanced and adept users will always gravitate towards Android (linux) and Corporate users towards Windows.
Besides, iPhones to date have been overpriced and, like Macs, the only way you can run their OS is on their hardware. Android runs on everything from tablets to mp3 players to cell phones across a variety of manufacturers.
I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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I mean, you're essentially asking if Betty Crocker Instant Mashed Potatoes are going to hurt the sale of spuds. The only real answer is a smack in the mouth.
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Backhand hand smack in the mouth?
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iPhones share the same traits as Macs -- pretty, easy to use, and nearly idiot-proof
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awesome dude... share it on twitter xD
BigBonkers said:
Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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Seriously?? No dev support? Have you taken the phone out of the box and used it?
You do realize that your posting about no dev support on one of the larger dev communities right?
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wife has an iphone 3gs running the new OS on it, had her use my android handset for a week as a test ...
she admitted if it weren't for the games and stupid little bits and bobs she was used to having she'd sell the iphone and switch in a heartbeat but alas not to be
BigBonkers said:
Will Android Die tommarrow once the Iphone is announced for Verizon? I think so. As a former 5 time Android phone user I cant wait. I gave the robot every chance. But without the support of Devs making applications an OS is useless.
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HA! no support from the devs? Try owning a palm pre. I just ditched one for the new evo shift, and so far I am LOVING the amount of support for android
Please don't feed the troll!
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone. As far as the pre i think it has the best os just horrible hardware.
Look at what Nividia showed running on the Tegra chips at CES.....1 year old PORTS of games that run on the Iphone perfectly.
Hardware is fine and dandy but NO SUPPORT guys. Its sad.
I honestly beleive once the iphone comes to verizon noone on BigRed will ever buy an android again. Atleast the common user. Well see soon. This is gonna be fun!!!!!!
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you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good. Android has a horrible market which rarely works. The apps are 2 year old ports from the iphone.
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This is just blatantly wrong, so go troll somewhere else -- there's lots of big-name developers on Android, including some from the iPhone world.
And yes, there's lots of garbage on the android market, but it does work. Don't forget that Amazon will be launching their cleaned-up android market this year too.
@burtcom actually your proving my point. please show me ONE app that they focused on the TEGRA chips that isnt on the Iphone??? Please name one? Also Amazon market??? Ummm where is it? Ohhhh its not here yet....oh ok Let me know when it is!
Please name me the developers on Android...... Netflix (not yet)...Gameloft (ummm old ports from iphone) EA.....ummm wheres madden? Oh still in beta?
Dont talk when you have no clue!
Oh and if there are games on Gamelofts site (the Ports) there made for the droid phones and the resolution is way off wack!!! But enjoy
The US is the last place that the iPhone hasn't been available on multiple carriers. The rest of the world has carriers with both the iPhone and Android phones competing directly, and Android is still doing great there. A Verizon iPhone will probably put a dent in their Android handset sales, no doubt, but there's always going to be a segment of the market that want something cheaper, or more powerful.
So no, Android will be just fine after tomorrow.
And apps are not the be all end all. They only matter so much to iPhone because it's basically just a glorified app launcher with a few apps bundled in. You can't even see the current weather without launching an app.
OP, you do realize that the iPhone is available on many major carriers in the the rest of world, right? Do you seriously think the US has the biggest cellphone market? (The answer is no. I'm telling you this since you probably don't know the answer.) Android is still growing at a rapid rate and taking up market share in the rest of the world. We shall see how the iPhone 4 does IN THE US when it comes to Verizon. If iPhone 4 Verizon does destroy the Android, then Android will die ONLY in the US, not the rest of the world.
So what if many apps are ported from the iPhone? Why don't you ask why those developers are porting their apps over to Android if they don't see the potential of Android?
Technically, Android has the best developer that no iPhone developers can compare - Google itself. Where did iPhone's Maps and Youtube apps come from? Which OS has the better Google apps?
you see now I never asked which was a better os......i stated that without support from TRUE developers making apps a OS is no Good.
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You didn't ask, you simply implied that iOS is better. People here are just disagreeing with you. And most of your arguments are surrounding the game department of the iOS. What else do you have? Even if you bring some more things on the table, you still can't argue what I wrote in my first few paragraphs. Enjoy the iPhone. I honestly think it is a great phone, but I hope you didn't type your posts using the iPhone. If so, learn how to fully use your iPhone please, otherwise it would just be a waste, no offense.
When people keep talking about apps apps apps for iPhone, they are just talking about games. Really, ask any iPhone users what awesome apps they are talking about that aren't games, and they will not have an answer for you. Or name apps that also exist on Android. Netflix? Yeah, its pretty cool. But its not like its been out all that long for iPhone, and the video selection is pretty limited, AND it will be out for Android anytime now, since it was already leaked at CES.
Seriously, how many games do you need? I love playing games as much (probably more) than the next guy. And there is plenty on Android, and developer support is growing. If you need more games than available on Android, its pretty likely that you need to spend more time on other activities besides playing little casual games on your phone.
Besides, not all developers are in love with Apple. Look at Adobe and PrimeSense (the original developer of the XBox 360 Kinect controller). These are important players, that were completely turned off by Apple's need to domineer and control, and eventually gave up on Apple.
The OP implies that the only reason that not everyone owns an iPhone, is because they are tied to Verizon. There are plenty of people like me that have been on AT&T forever, but have no interest in the iPhone. AT&T customer for over a decade, and I've never owned an iPhone, and never will. If Apple had their way, there would be no variety in hardware, or how we use our phones. There will always be people that find these types of limitations suffocating and unacceptable. Some of us like to have the choice of more than one form factor (say a larger screen, or a smaller one, or a hardware keyboard), or to have a homescreen that isn't just a near-useless grid of shortcuts. It would be a sad place where only one device could exist. Luckily, things don't work that way, and there is always room for competition in just about any business. So with any luck, Android won't be going anywhere soon.
Sure the iPhone is popular. But saying an OS is doomed just because its not the most popular platform, and doesn't have the most games, then that's the same as saying Mac computer shouldn't exist either.
Android won't die tomorrow
But troll should die today
I don't know about others but to me a cell its more like a helping hand or what ever you like to call it. Atleast for the tech lovers like me. But we all have different ways of doing our day to day stuffs. Android appreciates and compliments that. That's why I will go for Android. For the level of freedom it gives you, not how many new cookies it have in the box.
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Android is for guys..... iOS is for girls. Really!
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Bbm for android

Does anyone knows if the famous bbm messenger for blackberry will be on android platforms anytime soon?
If there's a thread on this please feel free to let me know and please be kind enough to provide the link to it, thanks in advance
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It has been asked across MANY different message boards... since Android was released. There hasn't been a breakthrough and, from what I've read, there's really no hope.
There were some articles on tech blogs late last year in which RIM were quoted as saying that they wished to bring their services to other platforms.
The rumour is that this means BBM on Android and iOS but so far nothing has materialised.
Whilst I can see why RIM want to embrace other platforms to try and retain some sort of relevancy in a market they're rapidly losing ground in, one wonders whether making BBM available to non-Blackberry users would just further the exodus of paying customers...
wow , looks like you just missed it , there was a buzz last month about it
see for yaself
RIM, mentioned that they're next OS update will allow android market apps to work on blackberrys and they're going to port BBM over to android AND iPhone.
Live Profile works across iOS, BB and Android. Works just like BBM with a pin. Free download from market.
I have my BB buddies on it.
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Live Profile works across iOS, BB and Android. Works just like BBM with a pin. Free download from market.
I have my BB buddies on it.
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I have that didn't know it worked with bbm too
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just get whatsapp its so much better
RIM somewhat mention it..
but i dont know what app
i heard rumor, Rim will make it
for Android, iOS, Linux, dunna
its still not released yet,
for now i and most of my friends using whatsApp
Im using Whatsapp atm which is good. Be pretty cool if there was a BBM type app built in to work across brands though. Can't imagine that would do good for BB's sale's though...
BBM is one of the few parts that is holding RIM up. As far as BBM coming out for other platforms, we can only wait to find out.
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Whatsappppppppppening, Loooool, that's what I use, its good for what it does but obviously not as good as bbm, but if it did come to Android that would be brill
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Bbm for androidArrow
I think you must search in google just put the right keywords otherwise it wan't give you proper results
Here's hoping. BBM is ridiculously popular in my country. I keep trying to tell everyone that MSNM is the same ****ing thing and works across all platforms but they just won't listen.
Without BBM, RIM will only have it's email system going for it.
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yea but is there an android app that can text to bbm. not a bbm app for android just one that sends sms to bbm??
What's wrong with texting...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
For bbm to work on Android or IOS you would need to register your device on their servers and network. And unless RIM release an app that allows us to do that I don't think it will be possible. Or if a developer ports a the Blackberry software onto android devices it might be possible.
c'mon devs!!!!!!!!!!! port bbm to android pleaaaaaaassse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bbm on droid!
bbm on droid!!
bbm on droid!!!

[Q] wp7 apps that piss you off

I'll start.
Groupme: This has to be the worst app that has ever been designed for any platform. I understand that it's in preview but i've emailed their support atleast 15 times. Not even one reply. What the hell guys? You guys are owned by Microsoft (skype) for gods sake.
They recently released an update and it doesn't even include a mango update. It just adds live tiles, which don't work. Not even once.
Every time i open the app i get "Push notification ChannelOpenFailed error occurred. This channel does not exist but could not be opened. Try opening the channel again. (-2129589901) 0"
I've reinstalled the app 3 times. I've emailed their support, i've contacted them on twitter. They're just ignoring everything about windows phone. This is unacceptable for a company that is owned by Microsoft.
I know some people are going to say this is just an app and you can use the group feature in mango. No, i can't. This app uses data and it works with smart phones as well as dumb phones (via sms). The group chat feature in mango doesn't allow the other people to respond back and talk to each other. This is key for me. I have a group with some people and we need to be able to communicate with each other.
It's things like this that make me want to drop windows phone.
I love windows phone (you can check my post history) but i am really pissed off now. I'm tired of waiting for things to improve. Mango is excellent but it's 2011 and the platform itself doesn't mean anything. It's all about the 3rd party apps.
I mean, look at whatsapp for android and ios and then check it for windows phone. They say they need more time to develop a decent app. Mango beta has been out for months. What's talking so long? Skype? Words with friends? Where are these apps? Is it lack of motivation cause of the 1% market share?
I am seriously considering android ice cream sandwich if google can get their act together and make android as smooth and reliable as my htc windows phone.
trust me...you will find other things to complain about once you switch. The problem I see alot is that people expected a perfect platform. I got bad news for you...there is no such thing. Not Apple, not Android, not WP.
Dude, I know how you feel.
I will be switching my WP7 in the next months. Unfortunately, it's just not the moment. I dont want iPhone 4S, I want iPhone 5. And Android just sucks.
I have no options at all ;/
jake2046 said:
trust me...you will find other things to complain about once you switch. The problem I see alot is that people expected a perfect platform. I got bad news for you...there is no such thing. Not Apple, not Android, not WP.
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Sorry, but i never said i expected a perfect platform and i believe windows phone is still the best operating system for any phone. It's the 3rd party apps that are killing it for me.
Microsoft has literally tried to bribe people to develop for them but there just doesn't seem to any interest in developing quality apps.
The core OS can only take you so far. But for what it's worth, i think wp is better than ios and android. But android seems it's better overall.
If something doesn't work you can customize it and fix it yourself.
I used to put a new energy rom on my windows mobile every time nrg came out with an update, so i have no problems putting in the effort and time it takes to tweak an OS. Unfortunately this isn't the case for 3rd party apps. Which is why android seems like a better choice for me.
karan1203 said:
I am seriously considering android ice cream sandwich if google can get their act together and make android as smooth and reliable as my htc windows phone.
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This right here proves you're an idiot. You hate the OS and want to switch but will only switch if the OS you're considering switching too can be as good as your current OS. See how stupid that sounds? You come across as one of those miserable people that can have a million positives but one minor negative is the end of the world for you. You will never be happy with an OS.
It makes perfect sense if you read the complete post. I said multiple times that wp as an OS is superior but overall android seems better because of customization and 3rd party apps, but i'll have to see what they do with ice cream sandwich. I wouldn't switch to gingerbread.
What part of that are you having problem comprehending?
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It makes perfect sense if you read the complete post. I said multiple times that wp as an OS is superior but overall android seems better because of customization and 3rd party apps, but i'll have to see what they do with ice cream sandwich. I wouldn't switch to gingerbread.
What part of that are you having problem comprehending?
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from the get-go you already knew android is more customizable and more apps...yet you still purchased WP?
I will be switching to Iphone 5 once my zunepass subscribtion ends.. I am done with this gay phone. Has no decent apps or games in MP, but looks good.. I want a smart'phone not a blonde'phone.
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from the get-go you already knew android is more customizable and more apps...yet you still purchased WP?
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How would i know the quality of the apps would suck? And it would take months to come out with decent apps?
I got the wp when it first came out. Went straight from windows mobile touch pro 2
karan1203 said:
How would i know the quality of the apps would suck? And it would take months to come out with decent apps?
I got the wp when it first came out. Went straight from windows mobile touch pro 2
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so you think all apps on other platforms didn't take months and came out perfect when launch...please.
You should know better you are an early adopter to a brand new platform and it will take yrs to refine the OS...just like android and iphone...who took even much longer to reach the current stage.
Yeah i definitely overestimated the brand name of Microsoft.
The only reason android and apple took so long was because times were different back then. It was a new idea and a new way of things. Now, Microsoft has had time to learn from them and should have played things differently. Mango is how the phone should have been released.
I mean, even now, most apps that come out are released for app store and market. Take any bank, or any commercial app. It's just those 2 platforms. Hell, even my local bar has an android/ios app.
There is no awareness of windows phone. It's a shame because it's such a great operating system and it has the potential to be number one.
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so you think all apps on other platforms didn't take months and came out perfect when launch...please.
You should know better you are an early adopter to a brand new platform and it will take yrs to refine the OS...just like android and iphone...who took even longer.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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WP got more competitions at launch than iphone & android. At launch who was iphone competitor? At launch who was Android competitor beside Iphone. With that said...I agreed MS needs to upper WP7 awareness....so far it's almost non-existent.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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Haha, didn't take a year for iOS to have an app store?
Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
I know some people are going to say this is just an app and you can use the group feature in mango. No, i can't. This app uses data and it works with smart phones as well as dumb phones (via sms). The group chat feature in mango doesn't allow the other people to respond back and talk to each other. This is key for me. I have a group with some people and we need to be able to communicate with each other
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after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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By 3rd party apps I meant apps from the marketplace
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karan1203 said:
By 3rd party apps I meant apps from the marketplace
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so you mean you can't access Marketplace or what?
Or you don't understand the "3rd Party Apps"?
3rd Apps is the apps that developed by individual or company that is not associated with the OEM, like you can develop almost and .cab by your old Windows Mobile 6.5, and you can do the samething with Dev Unlocked Windows Phone 7.
i just switched from android to wp7. i also had iso before android. android is a cluster f**k. have fun with all the buggy force closes
Strike_Eagle said:
Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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It's fine to blame the OS. The Developers didn't make the OS have only 1/3rd the API support it needed to support a ton of apps on release.
Microsoft gave them the middle finger and they took it at face value. That's why they're prioritizing WP7 at such a low place right now.
Because iOS/Android sales more phones have more users. It's more advantageous for them to work on Honeycomb/ICS/iOS5 app updates then work on WP7 ports.
People on this forum can yell and scream "we need AppX" all day and all night, but when you get thousands of downloads in the Andorid/iOS App Markets per day and dozens per day in WP7 the choice is clear which one goes on the backburner.
Also, all decent Android phones from Samsung and HTC come with Social Integration. TW4 phones come with Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn integration. Samsung did People Hub before Microsoft decided what to call it. That's nothing to rave about. It's actually kind of embarassing that they tried to market that as some sort of new and innovative feature. We've already gone over this before. Same for groups.
WP7 did do some innovative things with the way it allows you to pin sublets of Apps to the home screen, but a lot of the marketed built-in functionality already existed for years. The main selling point of the OS is the user experience, not the features.
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Why is android is better than... discussion

I want to hear your thoughts as why not to buy any other type of phone. Mainly because I need debate ammunition for my friends as they all traded up to Blackberry 9900s, and are now badgering me to switch over (which I never would). Thats like going back to the stone age right?
Thoughts on android vs. everything else? blackberries?
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It only does everything.
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Android is my OS of choice because the source code that my device is operating off of resides on my Ubuntu server at home.
My entire microSD is backed up when I connect to my home WiFi. This means that my pics/videos/etc are all managed by me on my own personal server. No iCloud or Picasa or Dropbox. Me.
I can freely install any app I want from any source including XDA-developers.com or Amazon Appstore.
Tasker.
Voice Search can do the most important thing a voice command app should: initiate navigation while I'm driving.
Because Google's servers are always accessible.
Bye bye BB.
Greetz
midnightmach said:
I want to hear your thoughts as why not to buy any other type of phone. Mainly because I need debate ammunition for my friends as they all traded up to Blackberry 9900s, and are now badgering me to switch over (which I never would). Thats like going back to the stone age right?
Thoughts on android vs. everything else? blackberries?
Discuss
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If you need our help to answer the question maybe you aren't ready for an Android device. Blackberry or iPhone would suit you well.
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Just get an iPhone because obviously you do not know why Android is the best mobile OS right now.
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midnightmach said:
I want to hear your thoughts as why not to buy any other type of phone. Mainly because I need debate ammunition for my friends as they all traded up to Blackberry 9900s, and are now badgering me to switch over (which I never would).
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Android isn't necessarily better, it just has different strengths and weaknesses compared to the others.
As to possible replies to your badgering friends:
- This works for me, why should I change?
- I'm a leader, not a follower.
- Why do you care? It's just a phone.
- It's against my religious principles.
- My (insert family member) was killed by a Blackberry. Thanks for bringing it up, you insensitive clod!
crachel said:
My entire microSD is backed up when I connect to my home WiFi.
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How do you do that? Was looking for a working solution for a while but couldn't find one
Android is better because its my latest choice
Android is not necessarily the best for everyone. It has its weaknesses. But with that being said, Android suits my needs the best and that is why I think it's the best compared to other options.
midnightmach said:
I want to hear your thoughts as why not to buy any other type of phone. Mainly because I need debate ammunition for my friends as they all traded up to Blackberry 9900s, and are now badgering me to switch over (which I never would). Thats like going back to the stone age right?
Thoughts on android vs. everything else? blackberries?
Discuss
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Android steals and infringes on all the best ideas from all the other companies!
Open source...the end
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**this post is not designed to be rude**
If I knew literally nothing about smartphones and all the fun things I could do with them, or if I was interested in copying celebrities and young children, I would pick an iphone or blackberry.
Unfortunatly im interested in more freedom, interesting development community and customizing in all aspects. Android for me.
Well, Android is not appropriate for people that are tech illiterate and don't want to learn or will never learn, imo.
When I went to my phone carrier's booth to get back my Nexus S from RMA, a blond girl just exchanged her Blackberry for a Nexus S and she seemed completely clueless about how the phone worked and how to put music on it.
well, i never used other OS such ad iOS or blackberry.
for me 1. i like that robot image
2. much ROM i can choose and do my own modification
3. made by google, i have been using Gmail for 5years, so it's kinda influenced my choice.
4. friend suggested and i trust him
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Why android? To each their own,but for me...
- flexibility and personalization
- community of developers that push the limits of the device to do new things
- on principle, android isn't a status symbol like the iphone or other apple products
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Why android? To each their own,but for me...
- flexibility and personalization
- community of developers that push the limits of the device to do new things
- on principle, android isn't a status symbol like the iphone or other apple products
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Best answer. Closed topic!
almostinsane said:
Android steals and infringes on all the best ideas from all the other companies!
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actually , all companies steal ideas from each other
This is something that I had encountered before. I have this close friend, we both done IT in our Universities but took different paths. He is the middle IT guy that just one to get things done and go home to play video games and does not enjoy IT as hole much.
He is an Apple addicted as it´s best. The same old speech: "It just works".
I told him, well, now that you choose to be a ***** Jedi that follows your Yoda master everywhere (not now as it´s dead), let me show you one thing that my Android does.
I opened my WfiKill app, and killed his connection to the world. I look into his eyes and said, see, I can cut you out of business and all your "Just Works" crap doesn't work anymore.
Moral is, it´s not what you do that makes you a smart person (Not all IT people thinks like it "should"), but is rather your "always on" feeling that something you do or have could be better. No Blackberry, no iOS and even WP7 at some extent will satisfies that feeling.
The HUGE IRONY is that the person who made the iPhone so desired by millions had the same thought of "seeking perfection" that most people here have. The difference is that on an iOS perspective, only Jobs, could do what we do with our Androids.
So you choose, you just use whatever Apple, or RIM, or MSFT wants you to use, or you switch to Android if you feel that what they want YOU to use is not enought.
For me is NEVER enought. Thanks XDA to allow me to keep feeding this awesome feeling of discovery and creativity which differentiates me from the "others".
Hey I know why I love my android, and for me it simply comes down to customization. When ever i get bored of the phone I flash a new rom. See how high I can get my Quadrant score. Mostly I love the screen the phone is pure eye candy... Super AMOLED + Voodoo control is amazing.
I know why i love android, I wanted to know why you love it and why you think it is the best. Don't be mistaken I am android fanboy... but not to the extent of some people on this forum. I think iphone and blackberry both have their advantages too. Thanks for the great responses.

Facebook Home coming to S4 - Will work Smart\Gestures Features?

Of course this only matters to facebook lovers.
Right now the official list of phones that'll support Facebook Home at launch is as follows: HTC One, HTC One X, HTC One X+, Galaxy S3, Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note II, and of course the HTC First.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/facebook-home-coming-ice-cream-sandwich-and-jelly-bean-only
FC_Home in a S3 on 1:30 Vid: http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-htc-first
Great Hands-on from verge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRRhycN8nI
But is very interesting to know if S4 smart\gestures will be well integrated with FC_Home.
Can you imagine being able to control FC_Home with known S4 movements of hands and eyes. Competition will be very jealous of that. :crying: ehehehehe
like i said, only for facebook lovers.
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I know, I can't wait to try it when I get my S4
that's a very intrusive launcher though o.o
I doubt I'll keep it, but I'll definitely try it!
Here is a FULL Hans-On in a Galaxy Note 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEN9zN4PEQs
Really smooth, i'm impressed.
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I think this will be a something that many -who don't really use Facebook so much- will try and then dump. The majority of Facebook users are unaware or even scared to change their launcher so they are unlikely to adopt it. Another problem will be if it does not support the OEM's widgets that many are so fond of.
It going to be really interesting year ahead
If I had the money I would probably invest in some Facebook shares right now while they are still relatively low!!
just disable ur facebook account and forget this crap
Has just been released and already some people despise the launcher.
In my opinion has interesting aspects and i'm very curious to test. I think people will soon be talking more about this FB home than many would expect, we'll see.
Is just 1 version and more adds will come, FB is a $$$ machine, dont start this for MarkZucker play his phone.
Wait and watch......
Someone said on phonearena,
"Millions of android users will try it, only few will keep it and then mark will tell us see it has got millions of downloads, just like he says 900 million people use facebook, but the reality is that there are millions of those accounts which are never used"
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sohebq said:
Someone said on phonearena,
"Millions of android users will try it, only few will keep it and then mark will tell us see it has got millions of downloads, just like he says 900 million people use facebook, but the reality is that there are millions of those accounts which are never used"
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ehehehe
I suspect these FB contradictory comes from someone who are scared and watching its potential.
In pair to gmail FB is the most used application all over the world from kids to old people, everyone has their account and visit it regularly, not to mention people who always connect FB when turn on their PC's..
Yesterday I shared on FB a video of the FBH, 5 minutes later a girl who can't distinguish the android from Ios ask me where she could buy one of these FBH phones, that says something.
I think FBH success will depend on 3 things;
- The ability to run on mid-range smartphones
- Technical capability of FBH devs to lower the data consumption.
- The ability to integrate ALL phone notifications.
If FBH become accessible to all pockets can quickly become a major consumer product. There are thousands FB fanatics that only lacking sleep with it, because many already eat with FB next.
Obviously if FBH will only available to consumers who have a Galaxy or a One will not have any success.
Always the great things have Lovers & Haters.
Yes no one can deny from popularity of facebook. What I best liked that I lost so many friends from school and college cz mobiles were not common then, I got them all back through facebook. I can easily keep myself updated to latest news. But yeah its the facebook app which makes it a terrible experience
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I was thinking about HTC One, and then realized I couldn't have it and keep all my cool Apex customizations. Same for FB. Seems pretty primative, as far as launchers go. I would love to see more "blinkfeed" sort of competition though.
In my world, FB is dying a slow death. The only growth is among grandma's.

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