[Q] Do all TF700 Transformers have NAND IO bottleneck issue? - Asus Transformer TF700

Like described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962507
Or, do the newer batches use updated NAND that fixes this issue?
Thinking about getting a TF700 but don't want to go through all those hoops just to get it to work like it's supposed to.

Neo3D said:
Like described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962507
Or, do the newer batches use updated NAND that fixes this issue?
Thinking about getting a TF700 but don't want to go through all those hoops just to get it to work like it's supposed to.
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There have been no updates to "newer batches", as far as I know (EDIT: keep in mind that both the TF101 and TF201 suffered from the same issues -- it's not like ASUS did not have plenty of time in between the their releases to troubleshoot the issue and use better hardware). So I guess the answer to your question must be a "no".

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Asus is not officially acknowledging the issue. As such, there won't be any fixes made to newer units.

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Short answer: Yes.
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I was confused with my own phrasing. Let me rephrase: yes, they all suffer from I/O problems; no, ASUS won't change anything as long a we shell out the cash.

Does the Nexus 7 have this issue or is it only the Transformer tablets?

Neo3D said:
Does the Nexus 7 have this issue or is it only the Transformer tablets?
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Only ASUS tablets it seems. I have a Nexus 7, it runs well stock, but still cant touch a CROMIX'd TF700. the Transformer has to many extras to use my Nexus. Even when downloading and installing stuff on the Nexus it lags, just for not as long of a period of time the TF700 does, but no big deal really to me.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
Only ASUS tablets it seems. I have a Nexus 7, it runs well stock, but still cant touch a CROMIX'd TF700. the Transformer has to many extras to use my Nexus. Even when downloading and installing stuff on the Nexus it lags, just for not as long of a period of time the TF700 does, but no big deal really to me.
Tylor
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I'd agree with Tylor that it's probably only the ASUS Transformer Pads that suffer from the I/O issue. He's also right on the comment that once you give it some TLC it'll outrun every other tablet out there, but you seem to be looking for an out-of-the-box experience, right?

Nexus 7 runs smooth as butter even out of of the box. but you can improve the performance by using a custom kernel like m-kernel or franco kernel and turn fsync off.
I own a newer version of the TF700T with 32GB flash only and jelly bean out of the box.
I still get a doubled IO score in Quadrant on the Acer A700 and Nexus 7 compared to the TF700T, so I guess they haven't fixed it yet.

Tylorw1 said:
Only ASUS tablets it seems. I have a Nexus 7, it runs well stock, but still cant touch a CROMIX'd TF700. the Transformer has to many extras to use my Nexus. Even when downloading and installing stuff on the Nexus it lags, just for not as long of a period of time the TF700 does, but no big deal really to me.
Tylor
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Thanks, but I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that the Nexus 7 has these issues too?

I was wrong. The Acer Iconia A700 has almost doubled IO score compared to the TF700T.
The Nexus 7 has only a slightly better score of about 500-600 more points, but disabling Fsync increases it a lot and beats the IO score of the Acer.
I'd wait for the Sony Xperia Tablet Z if you can live without the keyboard dock.

Neo3D said:
Thanks, but I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that the Nexus 7 has these issues too?
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No the Nexus 7 doesnt suffer from it, but I am just saying just because the Nexus dont suffer from bad i/o performance, it still lags some when downloading and installing, particularly installing. The point is, is no device is lag free. Even the awesome Nexus series still lags.
Tylor
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Used Tf300 vs Tf201?

Which one would you choose? Both are around the same price on the used market.... The issues resolved and the plastic shell of the 300 will not get scratched, wifi seems fine, the 201 has a better screen and gorilla glass so it might not break as easily, what do you guys thinkg?
The prime... I bought the tf300 for 470$ just formthe bt3 and ddr3 and i made a mistake.... Tf201 lighter, aluminiun, and better in benchmarks...
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Kico. St said:
The prime... I bought the tf300 for 470$ just formthe bt3 and ddr3 and i made a mistake.... Tf201 lighter, aluminiun, and better in benchmarks...
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* aluminum: weak gps/wifi. this is a really big problem of tf201
* a few hundreds difference in benchmark score doesn't mean anything in Android nowadays.
- However, the screen on Tf201 is so much better than tf300. Much brighter and much colorful.
- BTW,all asus transformer devices have a serious problem with potential I/O bottleneck , which causes lagging, slow response when using web browsers. Pretty annoying to me.
neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
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pierrekid said:
neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
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me too
Chris9446 said:
me too
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How did you price match it and get it for $350? What did you price match it too? I'm trying to get a transformer for my dad for his birthday and if I can get the tf700 for that price it'd be great!
nickthequick13 said:
How did you price match it and get it for $350? What did you price match it too? I'm trying to get a transformer for my dad for his birthday and if I can get the tf700 for that price it'd be great!
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Go to post #34. We used that website and showed the employee at best buy. Simple price match!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830459&page=4
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pierrekid said:
neither, get the tf700. Just did a price match at best buy for 347.49. Coming from tf101.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
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If you like game emulators like N64, Psx and MAME reloaded, the Infinity is slower than the TF300, so I prefer the TF300. The higher res display using the same gpu has some drawbacks.
A far as the sale, you lucked out, since Best Buy policy is to only match local stores and if in stock.
Good for you!
rushless said:
If you like game emulators like N64, Psx and MAME reloaded, the Infinity is slower than the TF300, so I prefer the TF300. The higher res display using the same gpu has some drawbacks.
A far as the sale, you lucked out, since Best Buy policy is to only match local stores and if in stock.
Good for you!
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Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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tritran18518 said:
- BTW,all asus transformer devices have a serious problem with potential I/O bottleneck , which causes lagging, slow response when using web browsers. Pretty annoying to me.
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this is much better in JB now. hasn't shown me the dreaded ANR message yet.
pierrekid said:
Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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it is pretty common knowledge that it takes more power to run a higher resolution...wether you will actually notice it during game play is up to the individual user...and something as simple as NES/n64 emulators shouldn't be much different...now something like shadowgun, or dead trigger...there you may notice a slight difference...but IMO, the higher res screen is soooo much better for 90% of what you do on a tablet it is worth the trade-offs
lawrence750 said:
this is much better in JB now. hasn't shown me the dreaded ANR message yet.
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yup, i haven't gotten the ANR message since JB...but the problem is still there...just much less obvious. hoping it is 100% software related and ASUS can get it completely taken care of with another update or 2.
pierrekid said:
Prove that its slower, because i seeing a bunch of smoke in that statement. The fact that your trying to comparing performance of a tf300 and tf700 alone warrants you provide hard evidence.
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Compared with a store demo and seen enough. The result logically fits the fact there are 150% more pixels to push data to with the 700.
N64oid, Fpse and MAMEReloaded all have the option to leverage the gpu and this is where the 700 is slower.
Test for yourself. I can not be bothered to test again, since sticking with the 300 until a gpu is designed to better deal with higher res when pushing data to higher re displays.
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Compared with a store demo and seen enough. The result logically fits the fact there are 150% more pixels to push data to with the 700.
N64oid, Fpse and MAMEReloaded all have the option to leverage the gpu and this is where the 700 is slower.
Test for yourself. I can not be bothered to test again, since sticking with the 300 until a gpu is designed to better deal with higher res when pushing data to higher re displays.
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So testing it in a store for a couple hours give you conclusive evidence that the tf300 outperformes the tf700... based off third party emulators that have yet to be updated to fully optimize the tf700 and its capabilities. Man you have a lot to learn about how to review devices and make accurate judgment calls on what's good and what's not. Until you sit down and own the device for a couple days, testing its parameters against that of the tf300 at cold boot, extended running time, while other processes are up and overclocked then you should not be stating that it outperforms...just saying.
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Stock to stock devices, the T700 is slower with the emulators mentioned, when the gpu option is activated in the apps. Testing beyond the 90 minutes tested will not change that.
If you do not use those emulators or lower priority, the 700 is fine. Since I already have an iPad 3 64GB for my high res fix, the T300 is a better for for me for its main function, game emulators.
There is a reason the iPad 3 has a big a$$ gpu in it and that is to efficiently handle the display. Considering I have been working with computers since the Voodoo FX days, I know a little bit about gpu function.
The 700 is a fine device, but the gpu is better suited for 1280x800 displays, if the app leverages the gpu.
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rushless said:
Stock to stock devices, the T700 is slower with the emulators mentioned, when the gpu option is activated in the apps. Testing beyond the 90 minutes tested will not change that.
If you do not use those emulators or lower priority, the 700 is fine. Since I already have an iPad 3 64GB for my high res fix, the T300 is a better for for me for its main function, game emulators.
There is a reason the iPad 3 has a big a$$ gpu in it and that is to efficiently handle the display. Considering I have been working with computers since the Voodoo FX days, I know a little bit about gpu function.
The 700 is a fine device, but the gpu is better suited for 1280x800 displays, if the app leverages the gpu.
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lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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Anyways, to the OP, if you arelooking for the best device for price the tf700 is a beast. Its the most powerful tablet on the market and, once JB hits, will be insane. Remember to check out post #34 on that forum for details on the price match. Good luck to ya!
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pierrekid said:
lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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I dont know why...but i think this is going to get good.....
*grabs bag of popcorn, sits and waits*
pierrekid said:
lol alright, you go ahead and enjoy your "higher performance" tf300. Ill sit here with lowly tf700. Btw, the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3, so much for all the computer knowledge you have.
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Seeing as on both the Tegra 3 in the TF700 and the A5X in the New iPad are both SoC processors, size of the GPU should be measured as the total die size of the chip.
The Tegra 3 has a die size of ~80mm2, where as the AX5 has a die size of 163mm2, resulting in the AX5 actually being at least 2.0375 times the size of the Tegra 3.
So your comment suggesting "the gpu on the tf700 is 3 times the size of the ipad3" is simply incorrect.
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i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens
turdbogls said:
i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens
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ha!
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turdbogls said:
i love it when stuff like ^^that^^ happens
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ha!
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[Q] Get rid of the Infinity?

I am awaiting the arrival of a brand new ASUS Transformer TF700.I have read almost 90% of the issues,pros and cons with this tablet.This has thrown me for a loop and as an IT student I don't think one should have to be on a constant lookout for such an expensive item.Fortunately for me the tablet comes with a 14day return for money .I am not even going to open it,I am thinking of replacing it with the NEXUS 10. I am really afraid of taking a chance with such a tablet that can go defective at any time.There is no telling just how good the NEXUS 10 is,but from initial reports its better than gambling on the Infinity.What are your views on this ? Is the Infinity worth the stress ?
If you don't want the Infinity than get the Nexus. They are two different products for different purposes and use cases.
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It is all a matter of personal preference.
I owned the Infinity for 3 months before selling it. During that time, I exchanged it twice thinking I kept getting a defective tablet, because each one was slow, sluggish and had the occasional screen flicker. Not to mention the bad I/O. Another thing that bothered me is, most of the apps I used, and games I played, even YouTube, looked really washed out. I kept it until the JB update to see if it would make the tablet any better, but it didn't(to me anyway it felt more sluggish after). From day one of owning the tablet, I tried pretty hard to convince myself that I like the tablet, but after a while I gave up, and decided to sell it.
I bought the Nexus 10 when it launched, and from the moment I got it, I loved it. It's smooth, it's fast, the screen is awesome, and it feels real comfortable to hold. The front facing stereo speakers are also pretty cool, they sound great, and they can get pretty loud. All the apps that I used on the Infinity look way better on the Nexus 10.
This is just my personal opinion and preference though. It all depends on what you are going to use it for, and what you prefer.
I have owned the tf700 for about a month.
This is a fact. The read/write speed to the internal flash is really slow. To overcome this problem you will need to unlock and install a custom ROM/APKs. This will void your warranty.
It's not that the tf700 is unusable with slow flash IO, instead it makes the user experience so very aggravating.
I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
Also waiting for Nexus 10 to come to my country and most probably its bye bye to my infinity then.
User experience just isnt what it should be. I also have ipad and even if I hate itunes and iOS I must say that the performance is so much better. And I am talking about the very first ipad.
You could think that there is something very badly wrong with Android but I also own Samsung Note 2 and there the performance is perfect. Also what i have tried some Samsung tablets they are smooth also. I just dont want lo-res screen on tablet so will try Nexus 10
The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
ShadowLea said:
The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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I just got a nexus 10 and a week old tf700 and the user experience on the n10 is far better than the tf700. Everything just works and hardly any lag. I'm not sure how an unlocked tf700 compares though. Where the n10 fails for me is the lower contrast level of the n10. Black arent as black either. And the lack of kb with extended battery. I'm not sure which to keep.
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Thanks ..I like the expandability of the Asus Infinity,and as you rightly said its preference.I will have to do without the Infinity,and hope the Nexus 10 can deliver over the future problems it just might have.After all the Nexus10 has flaws as well
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ostar2 said:
I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
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I wish you good luck with it,just find its too expensive for me to risk bricking it.I' ll let you know my experience with the Nexus 10
I appreciate that so much as I 'm going to get the NEXUS 10 16gig as its all I can afford.Just worried about the lack of expandability,and no card slot.Guess I'll make do with it somehow.I love games movies and music...16gigs is nothing close to that enjoyment.
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
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DARK SIDE said:
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
I thought it was just me that thought the tf700 was not all it's advertised to be. Whatever browser I use seems slower than it should be and seems to force close too often.The biggest irritation is that I can't keep the email working. I have MS Outlook on my PC and used that to put email on my Razr Maxx and rooted Nook tablet and they work fine. On tf700 it either doesnt work at all or works a day or 2 then all emails disappear. Sometimes it will load a few msg then as soon as I read one all the rest disappear. I have uninsalled, reinstalled several times and even tried to install it using K-9 mail. Nothing works. Is mine a lemon or an I just doing something dumb? I just know enough to be dangerous!
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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Brooklynsour said:
I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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lesonal said:
The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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So get an app for it. Or buy a proper alarm clock.... It's still tech, faults happen...
aznmode said:
I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
okantomi said:
Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Any info helps man and thank you. I'm stuck between my n10 and tf700 right now so I'm really concerned that unlocking wont make it on par with the N10. Dull screen and no kb dock is the only thing steering me away from the n10 but performance is awesome. But I might have a hard time reselling an unlocked tf700 or I'll probably have to take a major los$. Christmas time rolling around so I have to support my hobby and xmas $hopping the best I can =)
An unlocked infinity is by far the best thing you can find. The community has offered a lot to this machine that Asus just couldn't. Laggy Internet are you kidding..? With browser2ram outperforms my pc. 870 on browsermark bench. Yes the io issue is there its poor hardware but we have come a long way since stock now you can't even notice it. This think now flyes. Plus dock plus amazing screen that you can actually see outdoors. N10 or ipad come out in the sun and play.. No way..
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Stock vs custom rom

Hey,
I have transformer only few days and im really surprised hows the stock rom unoptimized when its the most powerful tegra 3. My question is if custom roms are really better with higher performance, because i dont want to lose warranty for nothing.
Tgx.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
I can assure u that if u unlock, root and flash a custom ROM (I am currently using cleanROM 3.1) u will be 100% satisfied and happy with the performance no lag no crashes, smooth as butter
U can check my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097097, I was disappointed exactly like!
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It's like asking if I put a turbo charger on my corvette will it be faster? Yes it is better once you root, rom.... I also use cromi 3.1 or in the next couple days I'm sure it will be 3.2
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It's like asking if I put a turbo charger on my corvette will it be faster? Yes it is better once you root, rom.... I also use cromi 3.1 or in the next couple days I'm sure it will be 3.2
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mirkotor said:
Hey,
I have transformer only few days and I'm really surprised hows the stock rom unoptimized when its the most powerful Tegra 3.
My question is if custom roms are really better with higher performance, because i don't want to lose warranty for nothing.
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You won't be disappointed with a new ROM...I recommend CROMi by SBDags!
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*Make sure you are completely happy with the hardware before unlocking.
I think the hardware is okay, but im really surprised how much its lagged, applications are often crashing, it isnt as responsible as it have to be. Hope it is problem of stock ROM, because i dont think it can be a problem with chipset itself.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
mirkotor said:
I think the hardware is okay, but im really surprised how much its lagged, applications are often crashing, it isnt as responsible as it have to be. Hope it is problem of stock ROM, because i dont think it can be a problem with chipset itself.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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Hi there. I just unlock my tablet yesterday. Install clean rom and very suprised with browser speed and tablet itself. Amazing stuff.
I have played with a lot of tablets and when you have to root/unlock it to make it better your wasting your money. What I have found is stock rom or custom rom made no difference to the problems Asus 700t have been having. Its not allot but its more the most.
Makes me wonder if these guys can make a custom rom making the 700t better and faster why in the world would Asus not do the same and let people root it. You know the thing would sell even more.. lol what do I know.
I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
mirkotor said:
I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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What do you mean rooted ui? There is no such thing. If you choose as stock rom it'll be the same as you have now. If you choose a non stock rom it'll be whatever that dev has put into his rom (if that is you concern?)
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I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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Low battery life? No single device will last as long as the 700 with a dock, dear friend. It even outlasts the iDevice series in whatever iteration you wish. So that's the poorest reason you an put up for buying into something else. The performance with a custom ROM (in my case CROMI) is pretty good, and although some other device may have its own perks (like a tad more 'snappiness' out of the box), you won;t get the full package deal the 700 offers with any of them (connectivity, external storage battery-carrying (!) keyboard dock, FullHD screen with high screen brightness, etc.)...
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sbdags said:
What do you mean rooted ui? There is no such thing. If you choose as stock rom it'll be the same as you have now. If you choose a non stock rom it'll be whatever that dev has put into his rom (if that is you concern?)
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I mean the speed and optimalization of custom ROM. I really first want to see how big improvement is to upgrade it to custom ROM, because I dont want to lose warranty for nearly any improvement.
EDIT: Im really thinking about the iPad 4, only it can offer me high battery life and smooth system, I dont want to have android tablet anymore. I spent about 800 dollars for tablet with unique and beautiful design, but with laggy and ****ty system and with low battery life. What to say...
EDIT2: I tried to factory-reset it and now it works without lags and apps crashes, ill see later if i still want to buy iPad.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
Just wanted to share my experience - some time ago I got ipad 3, exchanged it to tf700 and then exchanged it to tf600 and now I have some thoughts that might help you deciding what tablet is right for you.
If you don't want to root your tf700(I didn't root it because it stops official updates and voids the guarantee, and from the start I knew that I'll probably sell or exchange it anyway), then you won't get normal performance from it, I tried resetting it, disabling stock apps, etc, and interface finally stopped lagging, but to really make experience smooth, you'll need to unlock it. About battery life - in my experience, it isn't much greater then ipad's, but it definitely lasts longer, that's a fact. Surfing the net is more enjoyable on ipad because of its 4:3 screen, but maybe it's just me. Video playback on infinity's screen is outstanding, though, and I am not even sure, on which tablet I liked to watch movies more, on ipad or tf700. The keyboard is also not the greatest - tf600's stock dock is better, at least you can press backspace anywhere and it registers - I had a problem with it on tf700. Build quality of tf700 is great, tf600 feels worse after it, but ipad's build quality is better then tf700's.
So I guess, you should make a decision - which OS suits you best, because all three are great devices, and you definitely shouldn't make your decision based on stock tf700 firmware - it is very bad and it's a fact.
Zeblade said:
I have played with a lot of tablets and when you have to root/unlock it to make it better your wasting your money. What I have found is stock rom or custom rom made no difference to the problems Asus 700t have been having. Its not allot but its more the most.
Makes me wonder if these guys can make a custom rom making the 700t better and faster why in the world would Asus not do the same and let people root it. You know the thing would sell even more.. lol what do I know.
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Why Asus wouldn't put the cleanest, fastest ROM on their device is a very good question.
And the answer probably has a lot to do with marketing, time-to-market cycles and other things we don't know much about.
But your statement that custom roms don't make a difference is booooogus! Try CleanROM Inheritance and you never look back! And scr... the warranty!
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MartyHulskemper said:
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LOL!! Why only the outer ring? Why won't they let you join the inner circle?
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I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom rom, I'll be hapy also with TF700, but I think, Android isnt good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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mirkotor said:
I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom rom, I'll be hapy also with TF700, but I think, Android isnt good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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You are entitled to your own opinion and you have made your decision, but I think you made a mistake.
I have tried the Ipad 4 and my CROMI-fueled Infinity is so much faster and smoother, not to mention more powerful...and it's setup and themed to my liking. Android is great for tablets.
mirkotor said:
I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom ROM, I'll be happy also with TF700, but I think, Android isn't good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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^^^^^
Noticed you posted this from your Infinity :laugh:
In my opinion Android is the most fun.
You can do anything to it; from bricking your device to falling in love with it over and over
Hundreds of users show up in these forums crying.
Those that learn and take the leap more often than not stay as happy customers.
I myself whined and cried in past threads...I am now a very satisfied user.
The TF700T was born for custom ROMing.
(with fist raised) Power to the Androids!
okantomi said:
not to mention more powerful
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Let's not measure power by raw specifications - it works only in android world. Maybe, if he tried nexus 10 instead of tf700, he would have different opinion on android, but the fact that top android tablet on android sucks in out-of-the-box condition is kind of sad.

[Q] Tf700 with Customer rom vs nexus 10

Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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tazmeister said:
Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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Indeed the Nexus is better because of the GPU, but the TF700 can easily reaach its performance when modded. Plus the TF700 has the keyboard dock and then it has 2 batteries, 1 MicroSD, and 1 SD slot.
Tylor
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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Oh, stop it. Self-advertising is soooooo 2001.
J/K
But I'll be damned if a CROMI-X'ed 700 is not as good if not better than a stock Nexus 10...
The N10 can have all the speed it wants; without a MicroSD slot it will always be a lesser device.
I've tried the n10 on a display in Germany a few days ago. Aside from the frankly hideous shape, it was also nowhere near as 'gloriously fast' as people make it out to be.
My TF700 on stock next to it could keep up rather well, I imagine it's quite a bit faster on Cromix.
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
Tylor
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Not to debate with you because you're right too, but I want to give everyone some of my takes. I no longer use the keyboard dock came with the tf700, why? because it's awkward, flip over all the time, specially on my lap. I purchased a separate mini stand (7$) and wireless keyboard/mouse (40$) and found it's working much better, I can have the board on my lap and move around very nicely. Also another note is when you pickup the tf700 while it docked you have to be careful to hold it right otherwise you may break the hinges, but again even on a flat surface, this thing kept flipping over all the time when it's in a angle and I tried to touch and hold to move/copy. If anyone never try a real mouse with the tf700 you should, it much faster and a lot easier to navigate, specially when browsing, just scroll the wheel on the mouse and save your arm from getting tired.
No Nexus device will have MicroSD in the foreseeable future. AFAIK, it's a deliberate option by Google, and unless it's changed Nexus devices will rely on internal memory.
Forgive my ignorance, does the Nexus 10 have a USB connector? Could you plug in a microSD reader? I have one that's little larger than a thumbnail. Not perfect, but it would take care of your problem.
That said, feel free to get yourself an Infinity I know many people complain about its lagginess and whatnot. It depends on your expectations and what you do with it. I can only say I'm rooted, locked and on stock 4.2.1 and am still very enthusiastic about it.
Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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KinetiClutch said:
Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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As if.
These were the same reports that had a leaked image of the new Note 3( with the serial number I9500(Which is the SGS4) and turned out to be a midrange phablet called the ZOPO ZP950), claimed that the Galaxy Tab 3 would have 1920x1080 resolution (which has already been announced as having a crappy 1280x800 res.) and that the Galaxy S4 would feature a flexible display. (Which it doesn't.)

Looking to replace my TF101. I thought I was certain on the TF700

On a modders side of things which would you recommend? I really don't like threads like this but I was all for getting the TF700 but it looks to be more developing going on with the TF300. Can I get any help on this?
More developing on the TF300??? LOL
You must have missed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425383
CROMi-X gets an update about every 3 - 4 weeks!
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berndblb said:
More developing on the TF300??? LOL
You must have missed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425383
CROMi-X gets an update about every 3 - 4 weeks!
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Every 2 weeks actually And sometimes more frequently.
Anyway yes there is slightly more variety on the TF300 but the screen is hoirrible compared to the TF700. So if you want something very similar to the TF101 go for the TF300. If you want a hi res screen go for the TF700. If you want next gen, wait 3 weeks and get the TF701.
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Every 2 weeks actually And sometimes more frequently.
Anyway yes there is slightly more variety on the TF300 but the screen is hoirrible compared to the TF700. So if you want something very similar to the TF101 go for the TF300. If you want a hi res screen go for the TF700. If you want next gen, wait 3 weeks and get the TF701.
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yip i have both the tf300t and tf700 in my house, the tf300t has a quite noticeable yellow hue too the screen, let alone the resolution. The resolution of the yet too be tf701t is too much id rather a 1920x1200 screen and the extra fps. I think the tf700s screen is just about perfect
A friend sat on mine over the weekend and broke the screen. He gave me a few hundred to replace it, so I was looking at used TF700's on ebay.

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