Stock vs custom rom - Asus Transformer TF700

Hey,
I have transformer only few days and im really surprised hows the stock rom unoptimized when its the most powerful tegra 3. My question is if custom roms are really better with higher performance, because i dont want to lose warranty for nothing.
Tgx.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]

I can assure u that if u unlock, root and flash a custom ROM (I am currently using cleanROM 3.1) u will be 100% satisfied and happy with the performance no lag no crashes, smooth as butter
U can check my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097097, I was disappointed exactly like!
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It's like asking if I put a turbo charger on my corvette will it be faster? Yes it is better once you root, rom.... I also use cromi 3.1 or in the next couple days I'm sure it will be 3.2

bloodylipp said:
It's like asking if I put a turbo charger on my corvette will it be faster? Yes it is better once you root, rom.... I also use cromi 3.1 or in the next couple days I'm sure it will be 3.2
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mirkotor said:
Hey,
I have transformer only few days and I'm really surprised hows the stock rom unoptimized when its the most powerful Tegra 3.
My question is if custom roms are really better with higher performance, because i don't want to lose warranty for nothing.
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You won't be disappointed with a new ROM...I recommend CROMi by SBDags!
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*Make sure you are completely happy with the hardware before unlocking.

I think the hardware is okay, but im really surprised how much its lagged, applications are often crashing, it isnt as responsible as it have to be. Hope it is problem of stock ROM, because i dont think it can be a problem with chipset itself.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]

mirkotor said:
I think the hardware is okay, but im really surprised how much its lagged, applications are often crashing, it isnt as responsible as it have to be. Hope it is problem of stock ROM, because i dont think it can be a problem with chipset itself.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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Hi there. I just unlock my tablet yesterday. Install clean rom and very suprised with browser speed and tablet itself. Amazing stuff.

I have played with a lot of tablets and when you have to root/unlock it to make it better your wasting your money. What I have found is stock rom or custom rom made no difference to the problems Asus 700t have been having. Its not allot but its more the most.
Makes me wonder if these guys can make a custom rom making the 700t better and faster why in the world would Asus not do the same and let people root it. You know the thing would sell even more.. lol what do I know.

I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]

mirkotor said:
I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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What do you mean rooted ui? There is no such thing. If you choose as stock rom it'll be the same as you have now. If you choose a non stock rom it'll be whatever that dev has put into his rom (if that is you concern?)

mirkotor said:
I havent decided to root yet, because maybe im going to buy ipad 4 or nexus 10 instead, but they dont have as good keyboard as infinity. If there is someone with rooted phone, can make a short clip from the rooted ui and upload it to yt? The only thing i dont like on the infinity is performance and possibly low battery life but its synonyme for android hd device.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]
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Low battery life? No single device will last as long as the 700 with a dock, dear friend. It even outlasts the iDevice series in whatever iteration you wish. So that's the poorest reason you an put up for buying into something else. The performance with a custom ROM (in my case CROMI) is pretty good, and although some other device may have its own perks (like a tad more 'snappiness' out of the box), you won;t get the full package deal the 700 offers with any of them (connectivity, external storage battery-carrying (!) keyboard dock, FullHD screen with high screen brightness, etc.)...
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sbdags said:
What do you mean rooted ui? There is no such thing. If you choose as stock rom it'll be the same as you have now. If you choose a non stock rom it'll be whatever that dev has put into his rom (if that is you concern?)
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I mean the speed and optimalization of custom ROM. I really first want to see how big improvement is to upgrade it to custom ROM, because I dont want to lose warranty for nearly any improvement.
EDIT: Im really thinking about the iPad 4, only it can offer me high battery life and smooth system, I dont want to have android tablet anymore. I spent about 800 dollars for tablet with unique and beautiful design, but with laggy and ****ty system and with low battery life. What to say...
EDIT2: I tried to factory-reset it and now it works without lags and apps crashes, ill see later if i still want to buy iPad.
Samsung Galaxy SII [MIUI 4], ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity [stock ROM]

Just wanted to share my experience - some time ago I got ipad 3, exchanged it to tf700 and then exchanged it to tf600 and now I have some thoughts that might help you deciding what tablet is right for you.
If you don't want to root your tf700(I didn't root it because it stops official updates and voids the guarantee, and from the start I knew that I'll probably sell or exchange it anyway), then you won't get normal performance from it, I tried resetting it, disabling stock apps, etc, and interface finally stopped lagging, but to really make experience smooth, you'll need to unlock it. About battery life - in my experience, it isn't much greater then ipad's, but it definitely lasts longer, that's a fact. Surfing the net is more enjoyable on ipad because of its 4:3 screen, but maybe it's just me. Video playback on infinity's screen is outstanding, though, and I am not even sure, on which tablet I liked to watch movies more, on ipad or tf700. The keyboard is also not the greatest - tf600's stock dock is better, at least you can press backspace anywhere and it registers - I had a problem with it on tf700. Build quality of tf700 is great, tf600 feels worse after it, but ipad's build quality is better then tf700's.
So I guess, you should make a decision - which OS suits you best, because all three are great devices, and you definitely shouldn't make your decision based on stock tf700 firmware - it is very bad and it's a fact.

Zeblade said:
I have played with a lot of tablets and when you have to root/unlock it to make it better your wasting your money. What I have found is stock rom or custom rom made no difference to the problems Asus 700t have been having. Its not allot but its more the most.
Makes me wonder if these guys can make a custom rom making the 700t better and faster why in the world would Asus not do the same and let people root it. You know the thing would sell even more.. lol what do I know.
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Why Asus wouldn't put the cleanest, fastest ROM on their device is a very good question.
And the answer probably has a lot to do with marketing, time-to-market cycles and other things we don't know much about.
But your statement that custom roms don't make a difference is booooogus! Try CleanROM Inheritance and you never look back! And scr... the warranty!
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MartyHulskemper said:
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LOL!! Why only the outer ring? Why won't they let you join the inner circle?
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I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom rom, I'll be hapy also with TF700, but I think, Android isnt good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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mirkotor said:
I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom rom, I'll be hapy also with TF700, but I think, Android isnt good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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You are entitled to your own opinion and you have made your decision, but I think you made a mistake.
I have tried the Ipad 4 and my CROMI-fueled Infinity is so much faster and smoother, not to mention more powerful...and it's setup and themed to my liking. Android is great for tablets.

mirkotor said:
I decided to sell the Transformer and buy iPad. Few days ago, iPad 4 finally arrived and I'm really happy. It's my opinion and I know that if i have custom ROM, I'll be happy also with TF700, but I think, Android isn't good on tablets, its status bar wastes display area and its firmware upgrades are really bad.
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^^^^^
Noticed you posted this from your Infinity :laugh:
In my opinion Android is the most fun.
You can do anything to it; from bricking your device to falling in love with it over and over
Hundreds of users show up in these forums crying.
Those that learn and take the leap more often than not stay as happy customers.
I myself whined and cried in past threads...I am now a very satisfied user.
The TF700T was born for custom ROMing.
(with fist raised) Power to the Androids!

okantomi said:
not to mention more powerful
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Let's not measure power by raw specifications - it works only in android world. Maybe, if he tried nexus 10 instead of tf700, he would have different opinion on android, but the fact that top android tablet on android sucks in out-of-the-box condition is kind of sad.

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Worth upgrading to the tf700

Sup guys. Just wanted to get your opinion on the tf700 and whether or not its worth buying. I actually have the original transformer and was waiting to see if it would be worth buying the new infinity to replace my og. So tell me what you guys think. Is it worth buying? Are there any major flaws similar to the the prime that came out last year? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Had the Prime.... traded it for the Infinity..bought the Note for my daughter to take to college.... trading Infinity for Note tomorrow morning
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ilostmypistons said:
Had the Prime.... traded it for the Infinity..bought the Note for my daughter to take to college.... trading Infinity for Note tomorrow morning
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WHY?
ilostmypistons said:
Had the Prime.... traded it for the Infinity..bought the Note for my daughter to take to college.... trading Infinity for Note tomorrow morning
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Sorry not me. I need the dock. Plus i heard bad things about the note.
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pierrekid said:
Sup guys. Just wanted to get your opinion on the tf700 and whether or not its worth buying. I actually have the original transformer and was waiting to see if it would be worth buying the new infinity to replace my og. So tell me what you guys think. Is it worth buying? Are there any major flaws similar to the the prime that came out last year? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Never got the OG Transformer but I had keyboard envy, lol!
I love my Infinity. It's the only possible replacement for my dearly beloved but aging Xoom.
I have had the TF101 AND TF201 and now I have the TF700T. Its the best unit of all of the Transformers tablets and very close to the iPad3 as far as what I ask of both of these tablets to do. I am also sure after the TF700T get the Jelly Bean upgrade that it will make the TF700T better than the iPad3, so much so I will be most likely putting my iPad3 on the eBay block. IMHO get the upgrade to the TF700T.
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WHY?
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Much much smoother and fun experience
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ilostmypistons: All Android devices are a smooth, and fun experience once you root them and get a custom rom on them. I am waiting out for the developing to begin. I owned the OG iPad, lamented the purchase afterwards, sold it, proceeded to purchase the OG Transformer, have not looked back at another tab since, followed ASUS. In my personal opinion as an Infinity owner, and previous OG/Prime owner, and it is only personal opinion certainly. ASUS defines the Android tablet experience, even if the devices have flaws at production. All devices have flaws, my Gnex has flaws, but while Samsung defines the premium Android phone experience, ASUS defines the tablet experience. Galaxy Tabs are nice, though they ultimately feel too 'phon(ish)' to me. I suppose if you are looking for a slightly limited device, with a highly diluted version of Android...tab away, to each their own, though ASUS defines it to me. The UI is not too heavily skinned, the Android is relatively pure (no less pure then a standard CM custom build) the hardware is intense, and I have used each of my tabs as a standard laptop replacement for about 97% of my online experience.
PS: Oh, and I have YET -knock on wood- to experience any of the defects people are mentioning in these forums, on my infinity, and the Prime defects, certainly not present. I have a C7 model, so relatively recent
PSS: All my own personal opinion, no flame war intended, to each their own lol
Had the tf101, have a tf700 now. Android feels pretty much the same as on the tf101 (same lag spikes when dragging the menu etc.), of course the performance in apps is better, the screen is better etc.
But one thing is bad: On the tf101 the release of the pad from the keydock was really easy. Snap and it´s off. On the tf700 i need some force to release it, it feels almost sticky. And yes, that was from day 1.
pierrekid said:
Sup guys. Just wanted to get your opinion on the tf700 and whether or not its worth buying. I actually have the original transformer and was waiting to see if it would be worth buying the new infinity to replace my og. So tell me what you guys think. Is it worth buying? Are there any major flaws similar to the the prime that came out last year? Thanks in advance for the help.
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For me absolutely. I love it far more than my original Transformer.
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Bought the TF300, returned it for the TF700. Returned the TF700 as well. Android just isn't good on tablets - it's all lag city on every one of them. The Asus (or Tegra based) are the worst - more apps crash than normal.
On the Infinity I love the 1920x1200 HD screen. Makes for watching movies, reading and streaming so much more exciting and playing games are visually improved from your standard displays . Love the Super IPS+ , I can take it outside on a nice day and still be productive. The Camera is top notch on the Infinity! The best I've seen for a tablet device. Love the tablet Keyboard dock form factor with added battery life and more memory it has pretty much replaced my laptop. It can handle NTSF for the options of larger portable hard drives, that Windows consumer will love. Love the elegance look. I cant wait for Jelly Bean to hit. Fast updates is also very nice. It has its own issues just like any other tablet out in the market fortunately Asus has the quickest updates I've ever experienced. More then likely Infinity will get JB before Sammy.
So its really up to your needs. I love the Stylus on the Note. I'm an artist and would be nice to have something like that around when needed. Also the multitasking features of the Note is cool to! Infinity can do it as well but you will have to go to the Playstore and search for floating apps like Stickit or Overscreen. Although its hard to pry me away from all the features that I love about the Infinity. Both devices are powerful and fast. Maybe I'll just go buy the Note as well for my drawing needs....
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okantomi said:
Never got the OG Transformer but I had keyboard envy, lol!
I love my Infinity. It's the only possible replacement for my dearly beloved but aging Xoom.
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I also have ordered one of these to replace my Xoom it should arrive some time this week. I thought about the galaxy note 10.1 but finally ended up ordering the 64gb version.
dmoney94 said:
WHY?
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Note has pen input
Samsung = high quality
open source, lots of custom roms
Odin = awesome
less expensive
overall very, very good tablet.
If you need a keyborad theres always bluetooth keyboards and i THOUGHT i saw a keyboard type dock tho not as awesome as the transformer's
Personally tho, i prefer the 700, i like that its thinner than the galaxy tab or note, i like the full sized keyboard dock with USB and SD slots, i like how its taken everything i throw at it and asked for more. I also love the extra battery life in the dock.
If you want the keyboard, go Asus. If your not going to use it that much, go Samsung.
I owned the tf 101 and the prime and now own the infinity. I think its awesome especially compared to the prime. I'm so glad best buy exchanged mine. I love the infinity. It's everything the prime should have been. I have zero issues with my infinity as well
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The sluggishness is really getting to me!!

i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.
I am also in the same boat here as well. I really want to love this device however for the money it needs to perform better. Not to mention android apps for tablets are just not good enough yet. I have a few days left on my best buy return and have a bad feeling I will be coming home with an Ipad 3. Hoping a 10" nexus tablet will finally kick up the android tablet development to where it needs to be in the future.
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aydc said:
I agree with you, unfortunately. I understood how bad my tablet was when I played with my friend's iPad 2 the other day. iPad 2 was flying through the screens effortlessly with beautiful animations. My Transformer was on the other hand, despite being supposedly the best that Android can offer, like a 10 year old technology in comparison. Sad.
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Right now I'm on my wife's ipad 2 because my xda app force close on me on my infinity.... I love android and I keep trying to love my tablet but just using this ipad 2 makes think twice about not selling my infinity and getting the ipad 3. App wise I don't really care because I can actually find better apps on my tablet than I can on my wife's ipad although their rpg scene is crazy good. But the only think holding me back on getting and ipad is the storage because I'm the type of person that likes putting shows and movies on my tab. That's why I'm leaning more towards the note 10.1 since its smooth and has storage and keyboard (although not like the infinity) but the screen resolution lmao... I'm a picky bastard n I like the best technology that is out. For me the infinity would be great if it wasn't for the above problems... So I am kind of stuck in a loop and I don't know what to do.. Any suggestions?
hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.
That's what I might just do... Witch is sad cuz I hate apple but I wasted to much money to get sluggish performance.
My old phone ( SE X10i ) with android 2.3.3 is smother than my JB tf 700. Browsing and typing are perfect, no lag no crashing or random reset... Tomorrow i'll get it exchanged for the loose screen, hope i get a better one.
i made the exact same statements a few days ago. I was so close to selling mines. Then i got convinced to root. I saw a major improvement in everything. I have not had and lag, reboots, stutters, anything, since i rooted. As sad as it may seem, this may be the only way to get the device stable (for those that are having issues). I recommend rooting before you return it.
but i agree with the other poster, if you are not happy and think you will like the ipad better, just get it.
I'm in a love/ hate type of relationship with my tab. When it works, it's a really great experience, but when it doesn't ( which is most of the time), I'm ready to chuck it out of the window. The random reboots, constant sluggish performance, and the copy and pasting snafu's really make me dislike this tablet. What really irks me is that there isn't any reason why this tab should be showing these symptoms. From what I've read the nexus 7 and transformer prime aren't victims of these issues to this extent, and the infinity is better tech wise. Like i said before, when the infinity works, it works very well, but the performance is far from consistent. I'm hoping a CM10/custom Rom can iron out these issues, and I'll have an infinity that outperforms my GN running CM10.
hit173 said:
i just wanted to vent a little cause the sluggishness is really getting to me. After the JB update this tablet got worse. i factory reset and nothing.. Im thinking of taking it back to bestbuy and trading it for a note 10.1 but then again i will miss my keyboard and usb port... but i kinda had it with this tablet 540$ plus 100$ keyboard and this runs worse than the galaxy tab 10.1 witch is 2 years old... i haven't unlocked yet but from what i have read it does not make a huge difference.
I don't understand how this 4uad core tegra 3 tablet gets beaten by a iPad 2 or iPad 1 and definitely iPad 3 witch has a higher resolution.. The only thing i fear is that BB wont exchange since is past the 30 days policy arrrggggg what to dooooo!!!!!!????
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With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.
Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.
be my lasst Asus product. This will probably
The above sentence was typed with a keyboard, after I typed "probably" it decided to lag out and well you can see the rest. I decided NOT to edit it because it's a prime example of how terrible the Infinity is and so is the rest of Asus's tablets.
I really like the Infinity but it's pisses me off to no end that they decided to cheap out on the internal memory and this is what you have to deal with. This thing is frustrating to use and chrome is about useless on this. I guess I'm going to have to unlock, which is NOT what I want to do and try out some different roms because this tab makes me want to punch my fist through it's beautiful screen.
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Jarrett601 said:
Bought my Infinity on Friday and after reading this forum so much before buying I was surprised at how good the stock tablet was. You guys must be over exaggerating your experience, expecting to much, or you have a defective unit. Mine was smooth from the beginning and after rooting/unlocking and installing Clean Rom this thing flies. The only gripe I've had so far is browsing websites with lots of flash the browser tends to get a little sluggish.
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So you used it for a few days presumably before flashing a DIFFERENT rom and it's working fine for you, that's great. I've been using mine since pretty much release and it was pretty quick at first too, or at least it seemed that way. I'm probably going to flash a custom rom and see an improvement as well but the fact remains that I shouldn't have to. If the iPad performed as badly as Asus tablets, it would be all over the media. I wouldn't buy an iPad, because I don't care much for Apple, but I know they wouldn't release a half baked product like the Infinity. It's a real shame that the Android OEMs can't bake a complete product, seems like there's an endless sea of garbage and I'd wager to say no real competition among Android tabs.
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With respect, you read wrong. It's not unlocking that makes the difference in performance, it's flashing a custom rom that has been formulated specifically to improve performance and eliminate lag. The best and most complete ROM currently available for Jellybean is the CleanROM v1.3. It really is a huge improvement.
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From what I read it is a improvement but not a huge one that I would be willing to give my warranty away for it. The Rom is in ver 2.0 already and is a clean experience, but it does not fix the issues I have on a daily basis. The thing that irks me the most is that this tablet has so much potential and it looks
awesome and then my friend comes over with and iPad 3 or I play with my Wifes iPad 2 and I feel like my infinity is two years old technology wise compare to them. I wish at least my browsing experience would be good (which is what I am suffering with the most lately). I tried the debug settings and also browser to ram before when I had root with ics, and it was good for a while but it began acting up again for no operant reason. I just hope we get a update from Asus with some more fixes, and funny thing is my build quality is superb, no lightBleed, screen lifting, nor did I have random reboots till recently when I updated to jb.
On another note, how can I downgrade without unlocking? So I can root again and use root keeper to get back to jb with root? I read those threads they have on how to root jb but no one has answer my question if I need to be unblocked.
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BTrack said:
If you're not happy with your Transformer return it and get an iPad.
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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?
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That's not a solution, because iPad has no sdcard slot, needs to be jailbroken to work properly, dependant on iTunes etc. That's not the point. The point is, why can't a latest technology Android tablet run half as fluently as a 3 year old iPad?
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Get a note 10.1 if you want to stay on Android. It's very fast and lag free at the cost of screen resolution.
This lag reminds me of my old Samsung Galaxy S that has a nand chip with slow write i/o, but good read i/o.
The lag was fixed by moving /data/data to the much faster but smaller onenand chip as it requires alot of write i/o. The rest of /data and /system was moved to the nand chip as it uses alot of read i/o, but very little write i/o (updating apps).
I wonder if a similar fix will work for the TF700?
I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.
if you have used the infinty for any length of time you will not be able to use the note 10.1 the screen is poor - i bought the note and used it for 2 hours and returned it
i cant speak about the stock jb as i have never used it - i am unlocked / rooted and running paranoidandroid 2.2 with holo launcher hd and it is very fast no lag whatsoever - also just ran pimp my rom v2.0 to speed it up even more !!
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I agree here. Is not as easy as saying "get an ipad if you don't like it"
The problem, imo, is too many people apologize for Androids performance woes. There's no reason a tablet with a quad core processor and so much memory should be outperformed by the ipad.
But the reason it is, is because of software. Even after all these years Android still hasn't caught up. They never will if ppl continue to apologize for them.
I can't just up and leave Android but i do wish it would improve. When i use my wife ipad 3, I'm amazed at its fluidity. Sucks that the infinity doesn't come close to that.
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This is exactly my point. Why should the fluidity on a 3 year old iPad surpass ours?... I really don't like the Apple ecosystem, I love downloading things from my tablet and being able to use it right away not having to go to iTunes for everything music n video related. There is some hardware issue but to be honest is mostly software. Android as whole has not been fully optimised for all the different kinds of devices that support it. From full HD screen to non HD, from 10.1 screen to 4.0. There is to many different devices and that might be one of the problems with Android. Google should be a little bit more strict when it comes too software specially from other manufactures like Asus. Things like this put a bad image on Android as a whole. But like some one said earlier even this thing works good is the best, but why should I be relying on it working good sometimes and sometimes not. For 544$ this should not be the case.
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It's not a software issue, Asus specifically chose to cheap out on the internal nand memory. It's performance is dismal, at best. It's the reason why their tablets have lots of anr issues and laggy performance.
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I don't know about that, lag and sluggishness has been an issue with Android devices since the beginning of time. When i first got jb on my nexus i really thought they had finally figured it out, but within a couple of months the lag has returned in full force.
If it was an asus thing, it wouldn't be like that for all the Android devices i known.
Like i said, im not leaving Android because i still love it, but I'm also not going to pretend everything is fine when it's not.

Should i get TF700

Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?
You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
MODS please move this
Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.
The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.
Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/
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Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better
I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD
Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?

[Q] Get rid of the Infinity?

I am awaiting the arrival of a brand new ASUS Transformer TF700.I have read almost 90% of the issues,pros and cons with this tablet.This has thrown me for a loop and as an IT student I don't think one should have to be on a constant lookout for such an expensive item.Fortunately for me the tablet comes with a 14day return for money .I am not even going to open it,I am thinking of replacing it with the NEXUS 10. I am really afraid of taking a chance with such a tablet that can go defective at any time.There is no telling just how good the NEXUS 10 is,but from initial reports its better than gambling on the Infinity.What are your views on this ? Is the Infinity worth the stress ?
If you don't want the Infinity than get the Nexus. They are two different products for different purposes and use cases.
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It is all a matter of personal preference.
I owned the Infinity for 3 months before selling it. During that time, I exchanged it twice thinking I kept getting a defective tablet, because each one was slow, sluggish and had the occasional screen flicker. Not to mention the bad I/O. Another thing that bothered me is, most of the apps I used, and games I played, even YouTube, looked really washed out. I kept it until the JB update to see if it would make the tablet any better, but it didn't(to me anyway it felt more sluggish after). From day one of owning the tablet, I tried pretty hard to convince myself that I like the tablet, but after a while I gave up, and decided to sell it.
I bought the Nexus 10 when it launched, and from the moment I got it, I loved it. It's smooth, it's fast, the screen is awesome, and it feels real comfortable to hold. The front facing stereo speakers are also pretty cool, they sound great, and they can get pretty loud. All the apps that I used on the Infinity look way better on the Nexus 10.
This is just my personal opinion and preference though. It all depends on what you are going to use it for, and what you prefer.
I have owned the tf700 for about a month.
This is a fact. The read/write speed to the internal flash is really slow. To overcome this problem you will need to unlock and install a custom ROM/APKs. This will void your warranty.
It's not that the tf700 is unusable with slow flash IO, instead it makes the user experience so very aggravating.
I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
Also waiting for Nexus 10 to come to my country and most probably its bye bye to my infinity then.
User experience just isnt what it should be. I also have ipad and even if I hate itunes and iOS I must say that the performance is so much better. And I am talking about the very first ipad.
You could think that there is something very badly wrong with Android but I also own Samsung Note 2 and there the performance is perfect. Also what i have tried some Samsung tablets they are smooth also. I just dont want lo-res screen on tablet so will try Nexus 10
The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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The nexus 10 has pretty much the same issues. But everyone's so busy drooling over it they forget to read the Nexus 10 forum and see that there's hardly any improvement.
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I just got a nexus 10 and a week old tf700 and the user experience on the n10 is far better than the tf700. Everything just works and hardly any lag. I'm not sure how an unlocked tf700 compares though. Where the n10 fails for me is the lower contrast level of the n10. Black arent as black either. And the lack of kb with extended battery. I'm not sure which to keep.
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Thanks ..I like the expandability of the Asus Infinity,and as you rightly said its preference.I will have to do without the Infinity,and hope the Nexus 10 can deliver over the future problems it just might have.After all the Nexus10 has flaws as well
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I am going to get the ASUS TF700T for the holidays. In 8 days to be more precise. I can't wait. I am a big techie and want flash some custom stuff to it.
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I wish you good luck with it,just find its too expensive for me to risk bricking it.I' ll let you know my experience with the Nexus 10
I appreciate that so much as I 'm going to get the NEXUS 10 16gig as its all I can afford.Just worried about the lack of expandability,and no card slot.Guess I'll make do with it somehow.I love games movies and music...16gigs is nothing close to that enjoyment.
Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
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Tf700 lags,lags,restarts, since made jump from ics to jb. Good luck....
I thought it was just me that thought the tf700 was not all it's advertised to be. Whatever browser I use seems slower than it should be and seems to force close too often.The biggest irritation is that I can't keep the email working. I have MS Outlook on my PC and used that to put email on my Razr Maxx and rooted Nook tablet and they work fine. On tf700 it either doesnt work at all or works a day or 2 then all emails disappear. Sometimes it will load a few msg then as soon as I read one all the rest disappear. I have uninsalled, reinstalled several times and even tried to install it using K-9 mail. Nothing works. Is mine a lemon or an I just doing something dumb? I just know enough to be dangerous!
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I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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Brooklynsour said:
I got the tf700t yesterday i see what lag urtlking about but honestly it rlly does seem better unlocked with custom rom w/out not very good.... i didnt get any sods or RRs yet everything seems fine the batteey life is better than expected im not sure how the n10 is but the 700 isnt bad, the keyboard is pricey seems..... JUST MY EARLY OPINION
Btw edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33431910. I heard this works very well
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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lesonal said:
The alarm clock doesn't even work.. gl trying to get up for work in the morning
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So get an app for it. Or buy a proper alarm clock.... It's still tech, faults happen...
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I assumed you unlocked yours? I haven't seen any complaint yet with an unlocked 700 so it must be the best solution for the lag.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Honestly I don't know why I bother to respond to a thread like this, but the TF700 Infinity is the best tablet available, bar none, once you have unlocked and flashed a custom ROM/kernel. The best one for performance, smoothness, speed and stability is without doubt CleanROM Inheritance v2.7 with Clemsyn's oc kernel (gpu oc to 700). With a few additional tweaks available during ROM installation, nothing out now comes close to the Infinity. It's worth jettisoning ASUS warranty to unlock the goodness.
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Any info helps man and thank you. I'm stuck between my n10 and tf700 right now so I'm really concerned that unlocking wont make it on par with the N10. Dull screen and no kb dock is the only thing steering me away from the n10 but performance is awesome. But I might have a hard time reselling an unlocked tf700 or I'll probably have to take a major los$. Christmas time rolling around so I have to support my hobby and xmas $hopping the best I can =)
An unlocked infinity is by far the best thing you can find. The community has offered a lot to this machine that Asus just couldn't. Laggy Internet are you kidding..? With browser2ram outperforms my pc. 870 on browsermark bench. Yes the io issue is there its poor hardware but we have come a long way since stock now you can't even notice it. This think now flyes. Plus dock plus amazing screen that you can actually see outdoors. N10 or ipad come out in the sun and play.. No way..
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[Q] Tf700 with Customer rom vs nexus 10

Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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tazmeister said:
Just got a nexus 10 today.
This thing is fast
But I discovered that it lacks a micro SD slot.
I have tons of things on msd cards now.
So the debate is whether to switch to a tf700 which has decent resolution but at least the stock rom is ridiculously slow and laggy
Does anyone have any experience with both of these platforms?
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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How much data you have on the microsd? what kind of data? movies/pictures? is it too big for your Nexus10 storage? Have you considered cloud storage? Nexus 10 is a better device minus the microsdcard.
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Indeed the Nexus is better because of the GPU, but the TF700 can easily reaach its performance when modded. Plus the TF700 has the keyboard dock and then it has 2 batteries, 1 MicroSD, and 1 SD slot.
Tylor
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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I tried a Nexus 10 today which was totally stock and was surprised at how laggy and slow it was compared to CROMi-X
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Oh, stop it. Self-advertising is soooooo 2001.
J/K
But I'll be damned if a CROMI-X'ed 700 is not as good if not better than a stock Nexus 10...
The N10 can have all the speed it wants; without a MicroSD slot it will always be a lesser device.
I've tried the n10 on a display in Germany a few days ago. Aside from the frankly hideous shape, it was also nowhere near as 'gloriously fast' as people make it out to be.
My TF700 on stock next to it could keep up rather well, I imagine it's quite a bit faster on Cromix.
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I don't know how you guys testing the Nexus 10, but I'm using my cousin N10 and this thing is fast. The N10 will blow the tf700 fully modified and OC to the teeth out of the water in multitasking. Just imagine you running custom rom and OC kernel with this baby. Not to be bias I did some search for a review and it rated almost 5 stars everywhere, here are a few links:
http://www.omgchrome.com/nexus-10-review/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/google-nexus-10_Tablet_review
So it's not just me. Oh about the sdcard, my cousin, just use a mini USB to sdcard adapter ...may not look as pretty but pretty compact and does the job fine. Also it's not fair to compare an old hardware (ft700) to a new hardware (N10), but the fact it's definitely faster, better resolution and nicer to hold in my hand. Also the legginess possible from the Android JB 4.2.1 software, but not the N10 hardware. Once Google upgrade the software, you shouldn't see any lags anymore :good:
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I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Tylorw1 said:
I agree with you to certain degrees BUT, The nexus offers little features compared to a Transformer. The Transformer is plenty for every day use. I would only say go with a NEXUS if you want to game hard core. If you want more battery life, storage expandability, and a physical keyboard docking, go with the infinity. If you want more of a toy for playing games on, go for the Nexus, yet as buhohitr said, the Tranformers is getting to be a year old so it is kinda outdated. In my personal opinion, technology advances every 6 months. New and better things become available and it is just how it is. BUT, I still love my transformer and WOULD NOT get rid of it due to the simply fact of the keyboard. Have you ever tried typing a paper or report on a touchscreen????
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Not to debate with you because you're right too, but I want to give everyone some of my takes. I no longer use the keyboard dock came with the tf700, why? because it's awkward, flip over all the time, specially on my lap. I purchased a separate mini stand (7$) and wireless keyboard/mouse (40$) and found it's working much better, I can have the board on my lap and move around very nicely. Also another note is when you pickup the tf700 while it docked you have to be careful to hold it right otherwise you may break the hinges, but again even on a flat surface, this thing kept flipping over all the time when it's in a angle and I tried to touch and hold to move/copy. If anyone never try a real mouse with the tf700 you should, it much faster and a lot easier to navigate, specially when browsing, just scroll the wheel on the mouse and save your arm from getting tired.
No Nexus device will have MicroSD in the foreseeable future. AFAIK, it's a deliberate option by Google, and unless it's changed Nexus devices will rely on internal memory.
Forgive my ignorance, does the Nexus 10 have a USB connector? Could you plug in a microSD reader? I have one that's little larger than a thumbnail. Not perfect, but it would take care of your problem.
That said, feel free to get yourself an Infinity I know many people complain about its lagginess and whatnot. It depends on your expectations and what you do with it. I can only say I'm rooted, locked and on stock 4.2.1 and am still very enthusiastic about it.
Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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Reports for the nexus 11 suggest it will have micro SD
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As if.
These were the same reports that had a leaked image of the new Note 3( with the serial number I9500(Which is the SGS4) and turned out to be a midrange phablet called the ZOPO ZP950), claimed that the Galaxy Tab 3 would have 1920x1080 resolution (which has already been announced as having a crappy 1280x800 res.) and that the Galaxy S4 would feature a flexible display. (Which it doesn't.)

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