So yesterday I was looking at buying an app off Google Play to support the Trinity kernel's voodoo sound. O.K., so the app is $3.50.
I go to click Purchase to buy this app and charge it to my T-Mobile account. SURPRISE! Google now forces you to sign up for Google Wallet and that you link your mobile phone account to Google Wallet. If you don't sign up for Google Wallet you can't make app purchases from Google Play.
I called T-Mobile and there's nothing they can do, Google owns the Google Play store and this is a requirement. T-Mobile isn't happy about it and people have been complaining all week.
Like most people I damned well don't want a Google Wallet account. Google has proven again and again that they can't be trusted with any personal information. Now, they want to be able to take money from us through our mobile phone carriers.
If you get Google Wallet, Google can charge you whatever they want to your Mobile Phone account. Like, what happens if Google decides to fine people that root their phones? Stranger things have happened.
Option One of buy a Google Play gift card and make purchases off that gift card.
Option Two is to use another app store, like the Amazon App Store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get-appstore/android/ref=mas_rw_ldg
So, stay Away from Goggle Play
All this is going to do is make people pirate apks
Pain-N-Panic said:
All this is going to do is make people pirate apks
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Hmmm... I never thought of that!
I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet
Pain-N-Panic said:
I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet
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Yeah I was really iffy about being forced to use Google+ to review apps. If this is true, Google just wants to push Wallet so that they can release a statement in a few days about "the hundreds of thousands new Google Wallet users they've seen in the past week".
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Doesn't matter to me honestly as already said Google owns it so more power to them.
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Really!?!?!
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.
projectzro said:
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.
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I like to be able to CHOOSE if I'm going to sign up for a payment system like Google Wallet.
I don't like being FORCED to sign up. It's dishonest and unethical.
Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development. And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet I have not signed up with it...
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See no don't need Google wallet
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Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development.
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A few corrections to your post:
1) Apple just made it against the law to jailbreak your iPhone
2) It is a violation of your cell service contract to root your Android
3) The low level drivers are not open source
4) Open-source is what Google decides it means.
5) Google is known for making up their own rules
example: "We at Google value your privacy" = "Give us your personal information so we can make money by giving it away to strangers"
In that context, "value" = it's valuable to Google to make money off it.
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And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet
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Wrong.
To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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bthorne79 said:
To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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5) Google is known for making up their own rules
Don't use a smart phone, issue solved. Do the other options not work without Google Wallet, bill to carrier, enter card info?
If you can use a gift card you're technically not forced to use Google Wallet
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Thank you and yes they work bill to your phone company goes right on your bill
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I don't see the problem here. When was the last time anyone read the EULA? There are no rights anywhere... just a false sense of security.
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Hey guys, I've heard a lot about this Amazon App Store, but I don't seem to really understand its purpose. There's already Android Market, which has all the apps available, why would there be another app store, with less apps? And another thing that I can't think of, is why did Google allow Amazon to have this app store? Aren't they losing money with it? The more they sell through the Android Market, more money they make!
Who cares what the purpose is; they give you free PREMIUM apps!!
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Yea they have have a few decent apps for free and coupld were kinda pricy
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Thing is it is not available in my Coun, that's why I don't get its purpose.
How does Google allow such thing?
And do the Apps that I get through Amazon incorporate in my Androird Makert (allowing me to download them like apps I have bought there or not?)
I truly believe Google cares very little about app sale residuals in the long run. They care more about ensuring that there is an abundance of ways to make Android more accessible to more people.
Having a competing, authorized app store underwritten by a successful online merchant is a good move, I think.
In the end, it all boils to advertising dollars for Google.
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Amazon App Store. Great for the end users, absolutely terrible for the small developer.
I've had bad experiences with the Amazon Marketplace and refuse to use it now. They rejected one of my apps because it is not compatible with 3 specific manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, or Droid [I assume they mean Motorola]), The one app they DID accept took well over 2 weeks to be accepted, download details are STILL not available (been 13 days since it was accepted) and they take the same cut as the Google Marketplace whilst also charging you $100 a year.
I don't see the point tbh
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How does Google allow such thing?
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What makes you think that Google has any authority to stop it?
Did you not hear the guy above, free premium apps. i just got zenonia 2 free today, and andry birds was free a few days ago. i mean the android market is good and all but i think amazon is much better. Also i like the layout of amazon better, i think its more user friendly. I mean the current version of android market is ok, but its a big waste of space.
When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No, it is separate. If you bought it from Amazon, it won't show as bought in the Android Marketplace. I wish that would change, to at least recognize it is installed.
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When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No. It gets linked to your Amazon account, allowing you to access it from the Amazon Appstore.
Well, as a user out of the US, it's pretty much rules a huge majority out. I tried using it with a fake account to try out the free premium app
http://abtevrythng.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-use-amazon-app-store-outside-us.html#axzz1HtVzxyUa
But the premium apps stopped working after a day. So I dropped it all together
I decided to give a shot this morning to see the feasibility of switching from Google Android Market to Amazon AppStore as I like the idea of a more independent app store. I first discovered (not surprisingly) that the Google apps aren't there neither are a lot of other popular applications I have been using. In addition I was surprised to see the number of applications which have older versions in Amazon Appstore. Google Market kept giving notifications of upgrades available for applications installed from Amazon. It's unfortunate they are lagging behind but I bet it picks up in the future.
I wouldn't switch. It's not a replacement, but rather it's complimentary. Maybe you'd use both, but I wouldn't use one or the other exclusively (at least not Amazon's). I like the layout of the Amazon app store better, and the free premium apps are great. Having the links on my Amazon account and able to be sent to any device is great, of course (though that's similar to the Google marketplace)! The biggest deal breaker for me is that it doesn't have smooth app updating like the Google marketplace does, so if you have a ton of apps like I do on my tablet, you have to authorize the permissions again on every single update being installed.
I saw a thread that someone had removed the ads from the ad free versions of angry birds. ab: seasons.
I was wondering if it is possible to remove the check or verification that some apps do, specifically with the amazon app store. i want angry birds rio, plants vs. zombies and peggle...but Im curious as to whether or not the check can be removed so that the amazon app store can be removed from the device.
thanks!
You only got those apps free as they are tied to the Amazon app store via promotion. If you want those apps to be non Amazon dependant pay for them in the Android market. The developers work hard making apps that you either should pay for or they provide them for free to you because the ads pay for it. You wonder why the Android market will never be as good as the Apple Appstore? Its because of cheapskates trying to cheat the system so the developers don't end up getting paid. Who wants to develop apps for a market that doesn't make them money?
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You only got those apps free as they are tied to the Amazon app store via promotion. If you want those apps to be non Amazon dependant pay for them in the Android market. The developers work hard making apps that you either should pay for or they provide them for free to you because the ads pay for it. You wonder why the Android market will never be as good as the Apple Appstore? Its because of cheapskates trying to cheat the system so the developers don't end up getting paid. Who wants to develop apps for a market that doesn't make them money?
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I want the apps I bought to run without needing the amazon app store installed.. not looking for free products. apple appstore is NOT better than the market as the market is not better than the appstore...pirates exist in every community.
Trust me, I spent a lot of money last night on apps I want to be independent of amazon but there are four or so that aren't on the market. I also buy apps that I won't even use solely to support the dev...latest example would be hidden lock pro by marinelli.tv, I'll never use it but I bought it cause its a cool app and to support xda devs.
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I apologize for jumping on you if you truly are paying for the apps. Its just there are countless people who come here asking to do the same and their intentions are clearly to cheat the system.
If you wanted apps independent of the Amazon App store then you shouldnt have purchased them from there. You should have known they would be tied to the store you bought them from(was one of the biggest complaints about the Amazon App Store BTW)....... And yes, Apples App store is far better than Android Market when it comes to developers making money.
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I apologize for jumping on you if you truly are paying for the apps. Its just there are countless people who come here asking to do the same and their intentions are clearly to cheat the system.
If you wanted apps independent of the Amazon App store then you shouldnt have purchased them from there. You should have known they would be tied to the store you bought them from(was one of the biggest complaints about the Amazon App Store BTW)....... And yes, Apples App store is far better than Android Market when it comes to developers making money.
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Well the times I wanna play games and such the most are the rare times I have no service. It happened the other night, so I was seeking a solution. I think it's silly that we have to be signed in to the amazon app store to use the apps. What of gps apps?
No big deal but I wanna see amazon lose exclusivity on some titles.
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Well the times I wanna play games and such the most are the rare times I have no service. It happened the other night, so I was seeking a solution. I think it's silly that we have to be signed in to the amazon app store to use the apps. What of gps apps?
No big deal but I wanna see amazon lose exclusivity on some titles.
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An Amazon appstore drm token is good for one month. The apps will work offline. They only need to access the internet to get a new token after it has expired. If you want to force the token to refresh, set the system date to more than a month in the future and open the app. Not all of their paid apps are drm'ed, though. It's up to the individual developer.
Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?
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Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?
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Yes and no. They are supposed to be rolling out their own NFC payment system (ISIS) "soon" but continue to block the use of Google Wallet. So as of now, probably not likely anytime soon unless we get root for the S4 and are able to tweak Google Wallet to work.
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I called Att the rep told me it will work. But then again he had no idea what I was talking about and be to talk to 3 people
visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.
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visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.
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The bank first has to allow NFC to access your visa account to withdraw the money.
second, they need a mechanizism in place to process and solve conflicts.
Banks are rolling out this option but until this year there were a few phone and/or users that had NFC. By the 3rd quarter we should see banks offering the option as banks switch more and more from the tradional teller services to online services.
I think as long as you have a visa card you should be able to use the paywave.
As of right now on my SkyRocket im using CM10 and their SimplyTapp app. It works great at most BP Gas Stations and McDonalds to pay Via NFC. Hopefully the Visa Paywave technology will work with more vendors that have NFC at the Checkout.
Where did you get the app ?
Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!
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Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!
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Only sprint allows google wallet (out of the major carriers) in the US.
Google is starting to p*** me off more and more lately.
I use or should I say used to use an app called #Picasafolio to manage my #Picasa photos. It's a paid app but the best at what it does and is reasonably priced.
The dev has always been really responsive and usually has a resolution to any issues the same day. I was having some problems relating to the 4.4 update and downloading folders. Emailed the dev who chased down the issue and pushed an update to the play store. Updated last night but didn't try it till this morning. Had an issue where I couldn't login so contacted the dev who responded promptly with the following email:
'This is because Google has terminated the app for apparent violations of copyright. I've appealed but this looks like the end of my business.
Thanks,
Brian'
Checked the play store and sure enough a search reveals nothing. No explanation as to why the app is no longer there, nothing.
I feel angry on behalf of Brian who is a dedicated developer for the android market, no notice, no attempt to resolve the situation, just the app removed from the play store and an email.
I'm one of the lucky ones who are aware of what's happened but what about everyone else who purchased the app? This app has been in the store for a long time so the decision to pull it now seems ridiculous.
Surely as Google Play being a middleman then they have some responsibility to the buyer. After all if I purchased something on Amazon which later didn't work etc I could contact Amazon for a resolution.
There are still plenty of apps on the Play Store which perform similar functions so why remove this one.
I've purchased plenty of apps via the playstore but from now on unless I can get them through Amazon I will have to look for alternatives. I'm not spending money on something just for Google to decide they no longer like it or it no longer fits in the terms and conditions.
Still bloody annoyed with Goggle!!!!!
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Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....
X1088LoD said:
Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....
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Yep. I have multiple devices with PIC backup so having something like this is essential to manage the auto backup folder. Since Google has blocked the OAuth the app is now useless.
Well suck me sideways..
This explains why I can't find it in Play store from my tablet..
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swaipa said:
Well suck me sideways..
This explains why I can't find it in Play store from my tablet..
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X1088LoD said:
Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....
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http://snapwoodapps.com/picfolio.html
Anybody know how to raise a complaint with Google about this?
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Some good news! ?
I have republished the app on Google Play at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snapwood.pfolio, addressing the most likely reason for the ban (app name). I have no assurance that Google won't ban this app as well, but as the rest of the app had been stable for at least a year, the app name was the likely reason.
I was able update the app on Amazon, so users there will be receiving an app update to fix the login issue once Amazon approves it.
For Google Play users that want to continue to receive updates or want to avoid the login workaround, please purchase the new app and send me the email address used to purchase the original app. I'll refund that prior order so everything comes out even in the end. I apologize for this mess.
Thanks,
Brian
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Great news, so anyone get refund of the old app after purchased the new app?
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Great news, so anyone get refund of the old app after purchased the new app?
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I never asked for a refund but if you email Brian he will sort it out for you.
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Received an email from Google yesterday that on "April 14, 2014, tap and pay will no longer work for devices with Android versions older than 4.4 Kit Kat.
worthless imo to start with
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rsswga said:
worthless imo to start with
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Google wallet has its uses.
Biggest thing I like about it is it really tells the retailer to bill through Google.
Useful for when people stole all that credit card information from target. Let's say you only used Google wallet at target. Then all the thieves would see is a Google account you used, not your actual credit card information.
As long as you trust Google with your credit card (which can also be debatable), then it is pretty safe. It's better to use in all instances because retailers never get a look at your credit card information.
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