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Amazon App Store Vs Android Market

Hey guys, I've heard a lot about this Amazon App Store, but I don't seem to really understand its purpose. There's already Android Market, which has all the apps available, why would there be another app store, with less apps? And another thing that I can't think of, is why did Google allow Amazon to have this app store? Aren't they losing money with it? The more they sell through the Android Market, more money they make!

Who cares what the purpose is; they give you free PREMIUM apps!!
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Thing is it is not available in my Coun, that's why I don't get its purpose.
How does Google allow such thing?
And do the Apps that I get through Amazon incorporate in my Androird Makert (allowing me to download them like apps I have bought there or not?)

I truly believe Google cares very little about app sale residuals in the long run. They care more about ensuring that there is an abundance of ways to make Android more accessible to more people.
Having a competing, authorized app store underwritten by a successful online merchant is a good move, I think.
In the end, it all boils to advertising dollars for Google.
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Amazon App Store. Great for the end users, absolutely terrible for the small developer.
I've had bad experiences with the Amazon Marketplace and refuse to use it now. They rejected one of my apps because it is not compatible with 3 specific manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, or Droid [I assume they mean Motorola]), The one app they DID accept took well over 2 weeks to be accepted, download details are STILL not available (been 13 days since it was accepted) and they take the same cut as the Google Marketplace whilst also charging you $100 a year.
I don't see the point tbh

FelipeRRM said:
How does Google allow such thing?
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What makes you think that Google has any authority to stop it?

Did you not hear the guy above, free premium apps. i just got zenonia 2 free today, and andry birds was free a few days ago. i mean the android market is good and all but i think amazon is much better. Also i like the layout of amazon better, i think its more user friendly. I mean the current version of android market is ok, but its a big waste of space.

When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?

FelipeRRM said:
When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No, it is separate. If you bought it from Amazon, it won't show as bought in the Android Marketplace. I wish that would change, to at least recognize it is installed.

FelipeRRM said:
When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No. It gets linked to your Amazon account, allowing you to access it from the Amazon Appstore.

Well, as a user out of the US, it's pretty much rules a huge majority out. I tried using it with a fake account to try out the free premium app
http://abtevrythng.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-use-amazon-app-store-outside-us.html#axzz1HtVzxyUa
But the premium apps stopped working after a day. So I dropped it all together

I decided to give a shot this morning to see the feasibility of switching from Google Android Market to Amazon AppStore as I like the idea of a more independent app store. I first discovered (not surprisingly) that the Google apps aren't there neither are a lot of other popular applications I have been using. In addition I was surprised to see the number of applications which have older versions in Amazon Appstore. Google Market kept giving notifications of upgrades available for applications installed from Amazon. It's unfortunate they are lagging behind but I bet it picks up in the future.

I wouldn't switch. It's not a replacement, but rather it's complimentary. Maybe you'd use both, but I wouldn't use one or the other exclusively (at least not Amazon's). I like the layout of the Amazon app store better, and the free premium apps are great. Having the links on my Amazon account and able to be sent to any device is great, of course (though that's similar to the Google marketplace)! The biggest deal breaker for me is that it doesn't have smooth app updating like the Google marketplace does, so if you have a ton of apps like I do on my tablet, you have to authorize the permissions again on every single update being installed.

[Q] App edits, ie. ad removal, checks.

I saw a thread that someone had removed the ads from the ad free versions of angry birds. ab: seasons.
I was wondering if it is possible to remove the check or verification that some apps do, specifically with the amazon app store. i want angry birds rio, plants vs. zombies and peggle...but Im curious as to whether or not the check can be removed so that the amazon app store can be removed from the device.
thanks!

You only got those apps free as they are tied to the Amazon app store via promotion. If you want those apps to be non Amazon dependant pay for them in the Android market. The developers work hard making apps that you either should pay for or they provide them for free to you because the ads pay for it. You wonder why the Android market will never be as good as the Apple Appstore? Its because of cheapskates trying to cheat the system so the developers don't end up getting paid. Who wants to develop apps for a market that doesn't make them money?
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Rem3Dy said:
You only got those apps free as they are tied to the Amazon app store via promotion. If you want those apps to be non Amazon dependant pay for them in the Android market. The developers work hard making apps that you either should pay for or they provide them for free to you because the ads pay for it. You wonder why the Android market will never be as good as the Apple Appstore? Its because of cheapskates trying to cheat the system so the developers don't end up getting paid. Who wants to develop apps for a market that doesn't make them money?
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I want the apps I bought to run without needing the amazon app store installed.. not looking for free products. apple appstore is NOT better than the market as the market is not better than the appstore...pirates exist in every community.
Trust me, I spent a lot of money last night on apps I want to be independent of amazon but there are four or so that aren't on the market. I also buy apps that I won't even use solely to support the dev...latest example would be hidden lock pro by marinelli.tv, I'll never use it but I bought it cause its a cool app and to support xda devs.
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I apologize for jumping on you if you truly are paying for the apps. Its just there are countless people who come here asking to do the same and their intentions are clearly to cheat the system.
If you wanted apps independent of the Amazon App store then you shouldnt have purchased them from there. You should have known they would be tied to the store you bought them from(was one of the biggest complaints about the Amazon App Store BTW)....... And yes, Apples App store is far better than Android Market when it comes to developers making money.

Rem3Dy said:
I apologize for jumping on you if you truly are paying for the apps. Its just there are countless people who come here asking to do the same and their intentions are clearly to cheat the system.
If you wanted apps independent of the Amazon App store then you shouldnt have purchased them from there. You should have known they would be tied to the store you bought them from(was one of the biggest complaints about the Amazon App Store BTW)....... And yes, Apples App store is far better than Android Market when it comes to developers making money.
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Well the times I wanna play games and such the most are the rare times I have no service. It happened the other night, so I was seeking a solution. I think it's silly that we have to be signed in to the amazon app store to use the apps. What of gps apps?
No big deal but I wanna see amazon lose exclusivity on some titles.
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tailsthecat3 said:
Well the times I wanna play games and such the most are the rare times I have no service. It happened the other night, so I was seeking a solution. I think it's silly that we have to be signed in to the amazon app store to use the apps. What of gps apps?
No big deal but I wanna see amazon lose exclusivity on some titles.
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An Amazon appstore drm token is good for one month. The apps will work offline. They only need to access the internet to get a new token after it has expired. If you want to force the token to refresh, set the system date to more than a month in the future and open the app. Not all of their paid apps are drm'ed, though. It's up to the individual developer.

[Q] What happend to Sacred Odyssey!?

It has been a long time since I had looked at the Gameloft wapshop and so I went to reownload some of my games that I had purchased before. I had at one time bought Sacred Odyssey but now its missing from my downloads and no longer showing up in the store. I sent an email requesting they send me the apk for it. Anyone know why that GL game is no longer showing up? I bought it but never played it, hence why I was wanting to start playing it.

The purchase history system of the wapshop just sucks... it often purges things from the list after a month of purchase. It's still in their records, and likely in yours too depending on what method of payment you used, but they're largely relying on you to keep your APK backed up. Sacred Odyssey's still in your purchase history, you just can't see it from that page.
If they're gonna be so resistant to move ALL their games to the official Android market, they need to at least make an Amazon Appstore style app that you can log in to, purchase games, view trophies, read/reply to messages/friend requests and view complete purchase history.

TLRtheory said:
The purchase history system of the wapshop just sucks... it often purges things from the list after a month of purchase. It's still in their records, and likely in yours too depending on what method of payment you used, but they're largely relying on you to keep your APK backed up. Sacred Odyssey's still in your purchase history, you just can't see it from that page.
If they're gonna be so resistant to move ALL their games to the official Android market, they need to at least make an Amazon Appstore style app that you can log in to, purchase games, view trophies, read/reply to messages/friend requests and view complete purchase history.
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I got my Sacred Odyssey apk in an email, and all it does it force close. I can download the files, but then everytime I attempt to load the game it force closes, even wiping the games cache and trying again, same results. Any ides?

That game's known for having spotty reliability.
Sometimes, it'll FC too much to even get through one dungeon... then there's other times when I can play it for a couple hours without any problems.

TLRtheory said:
That game's known for having spotty reliability.
Sometimes, it'll FC too much to even get through one dungeon... then there's other times when I can play it for a couple hours without any problems.
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Is there any kind of a work around?

Not sure if I can asl this, but does anyone hapen to have the sd card files of this game? I have been stuck at 1mb forever and all it does is say "A problem occurred and the download could not be started... blah blah blah.

It worked fine for me. It's even on the wapshop.
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KindaUndisputed said:
It worked fine for me. It's even on the wapshop.
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I am on Verizon, 2.3.3 Apparently 2.3.3 it does not work, but 2.3.2 or 2.3.4 and above it does work. I see it in my gameloft wapshop but after downloading it and trying to install the sd card files are stuck at 1mb remaining and wil not download anymore. Even then my friend has rhe same phone on 2.3.3 Verizon and it wont even load up the game. I borrowed his files and same with mine, it force closes every time. I think it was TL Thery said its an issue that GL has yet to fix. So I paid $5 for a game that is useless to me.

Have you tried contacting gameloft? I find them to be quite useful thus far

KindaUndisputed said:
Have you tried contacting gameloft? I find them to be quite useful thus far
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Yes, I have. 3 times, and 2 thread posts on their forums. No response. I once had a reply to an email 5 months after I sent it and by that time I already had a new phone and was told I would need to re-buy all my games. That is ridiculous
Money grabbers, I just wish to God they would support the android market completely and stop this crap.

Strange as I pretty much always get a response the next day. Didn't it say (when purchasing the game) that if you have any problems then contact (game loft email address)? It did for me on the games I bought and then I could access the page through my browser history save click on the email.
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You can ask through thewebsite or to [email protected]
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I have 3 email addresses for support at GameLoft and I have all 3.
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that does suck this game doesn't work, if I had bought it I would try it on multiple devices to see if it works the same. but after reading your experience on here, that tells me not to buy anything from gameloft at all, they shall not get any of my moneys.

Are you sure that their replies aren't in your junk folder or something? The email address I gave reply very quickly.
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KindaUndisputed said:
Are you sure that their replies aren't in your junk folder or something? The email address I gave reply very quickly.
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Yup, trust me they are not replying to my emails.

Well I've asked for you and got a reply
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Hi,
Thank you very much for let us know about this issue.
In this case the customer needs to contact us through this email address or call us to the following phone number:1-800-961-6744 or
1-800-910-3186
If there's anything else I can assist you with please let me know.
Regards,
That's what they told me
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I don't know if it's a free phone number or not
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KindaUndisputed said:
I don't know if it's a free phone number or not
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I appreciate you asking for me, I absolutely have no idea why about 98% of my emails go unanswered, I mean beyond the "we have recieved your email and you will be contacted shortly" thing. I made a big post over on the GL forums venting my frustrations and was told if I didnt modify my posting I would be banned, so I modified completely stating I had edited it do to pressure of being banned, and then posted that I have no other way of getting through to somone about the issues, then I finally got a reply to the thread saying it was going to investigated, but have yet to actually get any contact back from them, I'll give it a week, hopefully it wont be that long but I will be shocked if they contact me back about it.

Any way to get Google Play to update Amazon apps?

Last May, I purchased Backcountry Navigator Pro from the Amazon App Store. It hadn't seen much use until recently when I started spending a lot of time on the hiking trails.
I was interested in checking out one of their premium addons (in-app purchase) but it kept giving me errors about premium addons not being available in my market. I shot an email off to the developer, who noticed that I was on version 5.0.3 and instructed me to update to the newest (5.7.4) via google play. Problem is, Google Play - while showing that app installed on my phone - doesn't keep it up to date. My assumption is because it came from Amazon. So, I contacted the developer again and explained the situation. I was told that they had pulled that app from Amazon about 7 months back (shortly after I had purchased it). I was told to contact Amazon and request a refund so that I could re-purchase the app on Google Play.
So, I contact Amazon help desk. I explain the situation to them. They respond that there is nothing they can do, and instruct me to contact the developer.
So here I am, sitting on a $14.00 paid app that I can't actually use, a developer that is either unwilling or unable to help, a google play that won't update an app if it wasnt purchased through them, and amazon unwilling to refund me.
My question is simple... does anyone here know of another way to get this app updated without shelling out another $14 for it?
Side note - Lesson learned. Don't offer support to 3rd party app stores. It'll bite you in the ass.

Fadelight said:
Last May, I purchased Backcountry Navigator Pro from the Amazon App Store. It hadn't seen much use until recently when I started spending a lot of time on the hiking trails.
I was interested in checking out one of their premium addons (in-app purchase) but it kept giving me errors about premium addons not being available in my market. I shot an email off to the developer, who noticed that I was on version 5.0.3 and instructed me to update to the newest (5.7.4) via google play. Problem is, Google Play - while showing that app installed on my phone - doesn't keep it up to date. My assumption is because it came from Amazon. So, I contacted the developer again and explained the situation. I was told that they had pulled that app from Amazon about 7 months back (shortly after I had purchased it). I was told to contact Amazon and request a refund so that I could re-purchase the app on Google Play.
So, I contact Amazon help desk. I explain the situation to them. They respond that there is nothing they can do, and instruct me to contact the developer.
So here I am, sitting on a $14.00 paid app that I can't actually use, a developer that is either unwilling or unable to help, a google play that won't update an app if it wasnt purchased through them, and amazon unwilling to refund me.
My question is simple... does anyone here know of another way to get this app updated without shelling out another $14 for it?
Side note - Lesson learned. Don't offer support to 3rd party app stores. It'll bite you in the ass.
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Hate to break it to you, but you won't be able to do anything here.

Which packages to remove on Oreo?

Hi everybody!
I'm having issues with battery life, I noticed that much of the battery is consumed by the android system process, and therefore of all the many samsung packages.
I would like to know if anyone has a list of packages that can be safely removed from oreo, after I will remove them with adb commands. I would like to use an app as a package disabler, but now these apps appear and disappear too often from the store and the feedback leave me a little confused.
Can anyone help me?

All the info is already on the forums (read a few threads )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...e-problems-t3789531/post76529330#post76529330
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium

*Detection* said:
All the info is already on the forums (read a few threads )
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...e-problems-t3789531/post76529330#post76529330
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium
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Thanks bro! The only bad thing is that I had already bought the app some time ago, I dont know if it was from this developer or a similar one from another developer, unfortunately I only remember that I used it together with an additional plugin... now I dont find it in my shopping list...

joker950 said:
Thanks bro! The only bad thing is that I had already bought the app some time ago, I dont know if it was from this developer or a similar one from another developer, unfortunately I only remember that I used it together with an additional plugin... now I dont find it in my shopping list...
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If it has a price over the install button saying Buy, you did not buy it with this Google account, either find the account you purchased it through and log into Google Play with that, or buy it again

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If it has a price over the install button saying Buy, you did not buy it with this Google account, either find the account you purchased it through and log into Google Play with that, or buy it again
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I believe you didnt understand mate...
I bought these apps twice, with the same account, my only one. And both apps I bought have disappeared from the store, like their developers. In my Gmail I still have the purchase invoices, opening the links of the developers dont appear to me anything, they disappeared and, probably, reappear with other names.
Reading on the forum it seems I'm not the only one to have noticed that these developers appear and reappear, so users have to repurchase the app every time
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joker950 said:
I believe you didnt understand mate...
I bought these apps twice, with the same account, my only one. And both apps I bought have disappeared from the store, like their developers. In my Gmail I still have the purchase invoices, opening the links of the developers dont appear to me anything, they disappeared and, probably, reappear with other names.
Reading on the forum it seems I'm not the only one to have noticed that these developers appear and reappear, so users have to repurchase the app every time
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Well yea, if the original app is removed, then a new one appears in it's place, then it is a different app, even if it does the same thing / seems identical, maybe the dev sold it to someone else who has re-upped it under a different name, either way you'd need to buy it again

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Well yea, if the original app is removed, then a new one appears in it's place, then it is a different app, even if it does the same thing / seems identical, maybe the dev sold it to someone else who has re-upped it under a different name, either way you'd need to buy it again
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I don't think so... In the mail invoice that google send when you make a purchase there is always a contact email from the developer near his name.
The contact email that I see in my old invoice is identical to the contact email that is here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium
So I would say that the developer is always the same, He simply likes to reappear always with different names so as to take more money from those who are forced to buy back the app every time, it's simply a dishonest trick
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joker950 said:
I don't think so... In the mail invoice that google send when you make a purchase there is always a contact email from the developer near his name.
The contact email that I see in my old invoice is identical to the contact email that is here
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpremium
So I would say that the developer is always the same, He simply likes to reappear always with different names so as to take more money from those who are forced to buy back the app every time, it's simply a dishonest trick
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Then email him? lol

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Then email him? lol
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Already contacted, they answered me with an automatic email, Practically they told me I have to buy it back lol
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joker950 said:
Already contacted, they answered me with an automatic email, Practically they told me I have to buy it back lol
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I guess if you want to disable packages, it's gonna cost £2~ every time you reset your phone if it gets blacklisted, I've only reset my phone once in 12 months, £2 odd every 12 months is fine
At least there is a non root option

In the end, after 2 days, the developer replied giving me a code to redeem the app for free from the store.
Now with Package disabler pro (with that xml list) and Greenify, the battery life goes a bit better. I do about 4h of screen on (compared to before I was about 2h30m).
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you've told that you having issue with app disabler? just do the adb trick to disable every app that you want