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Amazon App Store Vs Android Market

Hey guys, I've heard a lot about this Amazon App Store, but I don't seem to really understand its purpose. There's already Android Market, which has all the apps available, why would there be another app store, with less apps? And another thing that I can't think of, is why did Google allow Amazon to have this app store? Aren't they losing money with it? The more they sell through the Android Market, more money they make!

Who cares what the purpose is; they give you free PREMIUM apps!!
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Yea they have have a few decent apps for free and coupld were kinda pricy
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Thing is it is not available in my Coun, that's why I don't get its purpose.
How does Google allow such thing?
And do the Apps that I get through Amazon incorporate in my Androird Makert (allowing me to download them like apps I have bought there or not?)

I truly believe Google cares very little about app sale residuals in the long run. They care more about ensuring that there is an abundance of ways to make Android more accessible to more people.
Having a competing, authorized app store underwritten by a successful online merchant is a good move, I think.
In the end, it all boils to advertising dollars for Google.
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Amazon App Store. Great for the end users, absolutely terrible for the small developer.
I've had bad experiences with the Amazon Marketplace and refuse to use it now. They rejected one of my apps because it is not compatible with 3 specific manufacturers (HTC, Samsung, or Droid [I assume they mean Motorola]), The one app they DID accept took well over 2 weeks to be accepted, download details are STILL not available (been 13 days since it was accepted) and they take the same cut as the Google Marketplace whilst also charging you $100 a year.
I don't see the point tbh

FelipeRRM said:
How does Google allow such thing?
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What makes you think that Google has any authority to stop it?

Did you not hear the guy above, free premium apps. i just got zenonia 2 free today, and andry birds was free a few days ago. i mean the android market is good and all but i think amazon is much better. Also i like the layout of amazon better, i think its more user friendly. I mean the current version of android market is ok, but its a big waste of space.

When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?

FelipeRRM said:
When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No, it is separate. If you bought it from Amazon, it won't show as bought in the Android Marketplace. I wish that would change, to at least recognize it is installed.

FelipeRRM said:
When you buy something through Amazon, does it get linked to your Google account, allowing you to acess it from the Android Market?
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No. It gets linked to your Amazon account, allowing you to access it from the Amazon Appstore.

Well, as a user out of the US, it's pretty much rules a huge majority out. I tried using it with a fake account to try out the free premium app
http://abtevrythng.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-use-amazon-app-store-outside-us.html#axzz1HtVzxyUa
But the premium apps stopped working after a day. So I dropped it all together

I decided to give a shot this morning to see the feasibility of switching from Google Android Market to Amazon AppStore as I like the idea of a more independent app store. I first discovered (not surprisingly) that the Google apps aren't there neither are a lot of other popular applications I have been using. In addition I was surprised to see the number of applications which have older versions in Amazon Appstore. Google Market kept giving notifications of upgrades available for applications installed from Amazon. It's unfortunate they are lagging behind but I bet it picks up in the future.

I wouldn't switch. It's not a replacement, but rather it's complimentary. Maybe you'd use both, but I wouldn't use one or the other exclusively (at least not Amazon's). I like the layout of the Amazon app store better, and the free premium apps are great. Having the links on my Amazon account and able to be sent to any device is great, of course (though that's similar to the Google marketplace)! The biggest deal breaker for me is that it doesn't have smooth app updating like the Google marketplace does, so if you have a ton of apps like I do on my tablet, you have to authorize the permissions again on every single update being installed.

Amazon appstore apps in the uk?

Hope can I download these please? Is there a way around not being in the US?
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Don't think so.. i want swiftkey x for free though.. damn US -.-

Hope that it'll come to Germany soon aswell... Anyway it's not that costumer friendly policy Amazon should go towards...

I think it's similar to the AmAzon mp3 service, they allow free storage of music on the cloud over there, but here in the uk, you don't get that priillage and although you may be able to manually install the amazon app store, it's impossible to install apps due to the country limitations coming from your amazon account believe, as I have tried myself and it won't work, maybe searching google for the app's .apk file name may get what you want by other means.

For now the store is only open in US..
As far as I understand they have plans to open the store in other countries too..
We just have to wait

I believe there is a workaround for this, unfortunately the forum where I read about it is currently down. I'll look into it.

I remember trying to get Angry Birds Rio when the appstore had judt opened. I was so sad when I realised it was US only. It then came out on Android marketplace and then I was filled with joy!

{Off topic} Why do people pirate apps?

It really annoys the hell out of me when people like to do so called *cracking apps* when they don't even know that is. Cracking means modifying the source code illegally and using the app for free which would otherwise cost money. You ARE NOT cracking it. You are STEALING it. The developers are working day-night just to make couple of cents but you on the other hand pirating it.
Just go outside and have a deep thought about it. You are willing to spend $50 easily on shopping, whereas, you don't even pay a dime for all the hard work the dev do it for you. It is just stupid. If you found a dollar on the road you wouldn't pick it, but where it comes buying $1 app you google it day and night all day long. I am not a dev but I do understand how it's like. So please please for god's sake stop piracy.

Go go sopa! or not?

Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
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Faith in humanity: lost

There is already an off topic thread, why did you create a new one? It's just cluttering up the forum, and unnecessary, since your subject is a small matter and not worth a thread.
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RedAlertUK said:
Its because they are cheap and don't understand or care that it takes a lot of time and money to develop apps.
In many cases of free apps I wish there was a way to donate to the developer as I hate using something for free that I feel I should pay for.
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Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.

Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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This.
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No, it's not stealing.
Here's a nice link for you: plus.google.com/115208695107342318629/posts/cBxoGSEtbQW
After reading it you should go outside and have a deep thought about it

Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
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kwisatz79 said:
Don't think this is an issue in the large scale. I don't know anyone who would waste his time searching for a cracked app instead of paying one or two bucks for the few apps you want and need to pay for.
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To test for a greater time than 15 mins would justify a bit of searching. PowerAMP got it right back in the day. Something like 2 weeks full version trial then you must purchase. Still the best buy I've had on Android.
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Vodka69er said:
Back when I was in school I used to get the cracked apps. Being cheap? No. No debit card nor would parents allow me to use their cards for purchase.
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If you really wanted the app, you would have got the free version. I am sure that you looked for something like " how to get paid apps for free?"

There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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Maybe im wrong but i think that at a large scale it doesn't affect developers so much ..
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For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.

I use cracked apps just to check if they are worth the money. I treat them as demo. If I like it I buy it.Cheers
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I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
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jugg1es said:
I have no problem purchasing apps, but I do know that aside from the credit card issue, many games and apps just aren't available on playstore in many countries, these are great apps and games and I don't see a reason why they shouldn't be available everywhere, maybe we should look to the causes of many people's pirated apps.
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I have to use Market ebabler, and droidVPN so I could view all of the apps on play store.
This is insane!
I've spand 100-200$ for android apps.
I'm with android since 1.5 back in 2009.
Some apps are simply overpriced and I have to find a solution does the app deserve the money, and for that reason I google it to find it for free, just for testing.

chekuhakim said:
There no access to credit card nor charge cards or whatever cards. So they have to use cracked apps.
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There are such things as prepaid credit cards. Just a hint. As an alternative some markets (not Google Play) accept also paypal etc.

Google Play with paypal, at least 20% of us will start buying apps.
I dont use many apps on my android, so buying few apps is not a problem for me. bank in in about RM10 ( 3USD+- ) on my account, and bought apps. Im a student thou. Other than that, I often buy iPad apps, even thou I jailbreak it. Jailbreak for me is only for tweaking. I even bought paid cydia apps. Same goes to my android, root/unknown source/s-off or what so ever, I dont support piracy.
Have the kaching to bought devices/gadgets but dont have the kaching to buy apps? what say you.

remusator said:
For me the situation is quite different.
I have been stealing apps (yea, i don't affraid to admit it, but im not brave of it). Then i decided to start buying them and supporting developers (bought Cerberus and couple other).
It's maybe my problem, but im affraid to provide my credit card numbers to websites such as google wallet to let them pull the money they want. The paypal here was solution, i could charge my paypal account, so they didn't knew anything about my credit card and it was safe. BUT then wild Google Wallet appeared and there's no such option. No money transfer, no transfer from paypal, i have to provide numbers on back of my credit card. If someone in google goes mad, with the provided cc numbers he can pull as much money as he want. I know it sounds riddiculous, but I like safety. I can't relly on their good will, that thay won't abuse it.
So i stopped buying apps, as there is no way to put money on my account.
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this is riddiculous! you don't feel safe to trust google wallett, but you'd trust paypal!!! there's no differencies between those two. they are both corporate giants, if you're paranoid trust neither. or better, don't be paranoid.

Google Play SECURITY WARNING

So yesterday I was looking at buying an app off Google Play to support the Trinity kernel's voodoo sound. O.K., so the app is $3.50.
I go to click Purchase to buy this app and charge it to my T-Mobile account. SURPRISE! Google now forces you to sign up for Google Wallet and that you link your mobile phone account to Google Wallet. If you don't sign up for Google Wallet you can't make app purchases from Google Play.
I called T-Mobile and there's nothing they can do, Google owns the Google Play store and this is a requirement. T-Mobile isn't happy about it and people have been complaining all week.
Like most people I damned well don't want a Google Wallet account. Google has proven again and again that they can't be trusted with any personal information. Now, they want to be able to take money from us through our mobile phone carriers.
If you get Google Wallet, Google can charge you whatever they want to your Mobile Phone account. Like, what happens if Google decides to fine people that root their phones? Stranger things have happened.
Option One of buy a Google Play gift card and make purchases off that gift card.
Option Two is to use another app store, like the Amazon App Store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get-appstore/android/ref=mas_rw_ldg
So, stay Away from Goggle Play

All this is going to do is make people pirate apks

Pain-N-Panic said:
All this is going to do is make people pirate apks
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Hmmm... I never thought of that!

I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet

Pain-N-Panic said:
I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet
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Yeah I was really iffy about being forced to use Google+ to review apps. If this is true, Google just wants to push Wallet so that they can release a statement in a few days about "the hundreds of thousands new Google Wallet users they've seen in the past week".
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Doesn't matter to me honestly as already said Google owns it so more power to them.
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Really!?!?!
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.

projectzro said:
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.
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I like to be able to CHOOSE if I'm going to sign up for a payment system like Google Wallet.
I don't like being FORCED to sign up. It's dishonest and unethical.

Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development. And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet I have not signed up with it...
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See no don't need Google wallet
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bthorne79 said:
Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development.
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A few corrections to your post:
1) Apple just made it against the law to jailbreak your iPhone
2) It is a violation of your cell service contract to root your Android
3) The low level drivers are not open source
4) Open-source is what Google decides it means.
5) Google is known for making up their own rules
example: "We at Google value your privacy" = "Give us your personal information so we can make money by giving it away to strangers"
In that context, "value" = it's valuable to Google to make money off it.
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And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet
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Wrong.

To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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bthorne79 said:
To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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5) Google is known for making up their own rules

Don't use a smart phone, issue solved. Do the other options not work without Google Wallet, bill to carrier, enter card info?
If you can use a gift card you're technically not forced to use Google Wallet
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Thank you and yes they work bill to your phone company goes right on your bill
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I don't see the problem here. When was the last time anyone read the EULA? There are no rights anywhere... just a false sense of security.
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Picasa Folio

Google is starting to p*** me off more and more lately.
I use or should I say used to use an app called #Picasafolio to manage my #Picasa photos. It's a paid app but the best at what it does and is reasonably priced.
The dev has always been really responsive and usually has a resolution to any issues the same day. I was having some problems relating to the 4.4 update and downloading folders. Emailed the dev who chased down the issue and pushed an update to the play store. Updated last night but didn't try it till this morning. Had an issue where I couldn't login so contacted the dev who responded promptly with the following email:
'This is because Google has terminated the app for apparent violations of copyright. I've appealed but this looks like the end of my business.
Thanks,
Brian'
Checked the play store and sure enough a search reveals nothing. No explanation as to why the app is no longer there, nothing.
I feel angry on behalf of Brian who is a dedicated developer for the android market, no notice, no attempt to resolve the situation, just the app removed from the play store and an email.
I'm one of the lucky ones who are aware of what's happened but what about everyone else who purchased the app? This app has been in the store for a long time so the decision to pull it now seems ridiculous.
Surely as Google Play being a middleman then they have some responsibility to the buyer. After all if I purchased something on Amazon which later didn't work etc I could contact Amazon for a resolution.
There are still plenty of apps on the Play Store which perform similar functions so why remove this one.
I've purchased plenty of apps via the playstore but from now on unless I can get them through Amazon I will have to look for alternatives. I'm not spending money on something just for Google to decide they no longer like it or it no longer fits in the terms and conditions.
Still bloody annoyed with Goggle!!!!!
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Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....

X1088LoD said:
Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....
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Yep. I have multiple devices with PIC backup so having something like this is essential to manage the auto backup folder. Since Google has blocked the OAuth the app is now useless.

Well suck me sideways..
This explains why I can't find it in Play store from my tablet..
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swaipa said:
Well suck me sideways..
This explains why I can't find it in Play store from my tablet..
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X1088LoD said:
Wow, this sucks on so many levels. Probably my most used app.....sigh....
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http://snapwoodapps.com/picfolio.html
Anybody know how to raise a complaint with Google about this?
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Some good news! ?
I have republished the app on Google Play at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.snapwood.pfolio, addressing the most likely reason for the ban (app name). I have no assurance that Google won't ban this app as well, but as the rest of the app had been stable for at least a year, the app name was the likely reason.
I was able update the app on Amazon, so users there will be receiving an app update to fix the login issue once Amazon approves it.
For Google Play users that want to continue to receive updates or want to avoid the login workaround, please purchase the new app and send me the email address used to purchase the original app. I'll refund that prior order so everything comes out even in the end. I apologize for this mess.
Thanks,
Brian
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Great news, so anyone get refund of the old app after purchased the new app?

gemenilim said:
Great news, so anyone get refund of the old app after purchased the new app?
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I never asked for a refund but if you email Brian he will sort it out for you.
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