NFC visa payment? - Galaxy S 4 General

Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?

lowspeed said:
Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?
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Yes and no. They are supposed to be rolling out their own NFC payment system (ISIS) "soon" but continue to block the use of Google Wallet. So as of now, probably not likely anytime soon unless we get root for the S4 and are able to tweak Google Wallet to work.
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I called Att the rep told me it will work. But then again he had no idea what I was talking about and be to talk to 3 people

visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.

testinguser said:
visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.
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The bank first has to allow NFC to access your visa account to withdraw the money.
second, they need a mechanizism in place to process and solve conflicts.
Banks are rolling out this option but until this year there were a few phone and/or users that had NFC. By the 3rd quarter we should see banks offering the option as banks switch more and more from the tradional teller services to online services.

I think as long as you have a visa card you should be able to use the paywave.

As of right now on my SkyRocket im using CM10 and their SimplyTapp app. It works great at most BP Gas Stations and McDonalds to pay Via NFC. Hopefully the Visa Paywave technology will work with more vendors that have NFC at the Checkout.

Where did you get the app ?

Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!

lowspeed said:
Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!
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Only sprint allows google wallet (out of the major carriers) in the US.

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Why is my Google Credit payment method declined?

I was trying to purchase game. Cytus to be exact. It's a cool music game and I wanted the full version for lyk $2. Now here's my problem. I have to use my debit/credit card to purchase it. My Google Play Credit has been declined. Or at least that's what it says when I try to purchase the game. It's just this game I'm seeing it with too.
I'm guessing the developer has blocked that payment method. If this is true, then what's the point of Google Play Cards if developers can block that form of payment?
Granted, I'll buy the game later this week. It's just it was bill paying week for me last week, so this college kid don't have an extra $2. That's lunch money. LoL!!
But that's all. I want to know why a developer would block Google Credit as a form of payment... Should I upload a picture?
Here's an image of my Google Credit being declined. If this is possible, then this will render Google Play Cards useless.
Thing's I've checked:
1) Made sure it was under my primary email address since I have multiple email addresses
2)Checked to see if it was the credit itself, but I can use my Google Credit to purchase other apps.
Bump. I am running into the exact same issue. I can't figure out for the life of me why it has crapped out.
The OP already stated why it was happening. Developers on the Play Store have the option to decline certain types of payments - one of which is the Google Credits. I guess there must be a reason for it - maybe a Google Credit isn't actually worth a full Dollar to the developer due to transaction fees or something?
No_Nickname90 said:
I'm guessing the developer has blocked that payment method. If this is true, then what's the point of Google Play Cards if developers can block that form of payment?
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SimonTS said:
The OP already stated why it was happening. Developers on the Play Store have the option to decline certain types of payments - one of which is the Google Credits.
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At no point did the OP definitively state why it was happening. He/she merely guessed at why it is happening. I'm trying to find if there's an actual reason so we can see if it can be solved or not.
Anyways, a guy on reddit was talking about his app and I was trying to buy it. Ran into the same error message. I asked him if he knew why it was happening and this is his response:
"Thanks for the feedback, as far as I read it's because Google just support multiple currencies for developers based in some countries, it doesn't support for my country yet, that makes impossible to people pay with carriers and with gift cards ... Hope they fix it soon !"
So maybe this only happens when the app's dev team is based out of certain countries that Google hasn't established all of its services/support yet. I looked the dev up on Facebook and he's in Barcelona, Spain, FWIW. It's still a guess but hey at least we have some more info.

Google Play SECURITY WARNING

So yesterday I was looking at buying an app off Google Play to support the Trinity kernel's voodoo sound. O.K., so the app is $3.50.
I go to click Purchase to buy this app and charge it to my T-Mobile account. SURPRISE! Google now forces you to sign up for Google Wallet and that you link your mobile phone account to Google Wallet. If you don't sign up for Google Wallet you can't make app purchases from Google Play.
I called T-Mobile and there's nothing they can do, Google owns the Google Play store and this is a requirement. T-Mobile isn't happy about it and people have been complaining all week.
Like most people I damned well don't want a Google Wallet account. Google has proven again and again that they can't be trusted with any personal information. Now, they want to be able to take money from us through our mobile phone carriers.
If you get Google Wallet, Google can charge you whatever they want to your Mobile Phone account. Like, what happens if Google decides to fine people that root their phones? Stranger things have happened.
Option One of buy a Google Play gift card and make purchases off that gift card.
Option Two is to use another app store, like the Amazon App Store:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/get-appstore/android/ref=mas_rw_ldg
So, stay Away from Goggle Play
All this is going to do is make people pirate apks
Pain-N-Panic said:
All this is going to do is make people pirate apks
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Hmmm... I never thought of that!
I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet
Pain-N-Panic said:
I refuse to sign up for Google wallet. I'm not saying i pirate apks, but i would do that before signing up for Google wallet
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Yeah I was really iffy about being forced to use Google+ to review apps. If this is true, Google just wants to push Wallet so that they can release a statement in a few days about "the hundreds of thousands new Google Wallet users they've seen in the past week".
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Doesn't matter to me honestly as already said Google owns it so more power to them.
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Really!?!?!
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.
projectzro said:
Just buy a Play gift card. what is the issue with google wallet anyway, i have used it since day 1.
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I like to be able to CHOOSE if I'm going to sign up for a payment system like Google Wallet.
I don't like being FORCED to sign up. It's dishonest and unethical.
Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development. And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet I have not signed up with it...
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See no don't need Google wallet
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Google will never fine people for rooting phones it is not against the law and Google android is open source unlike apple or windows. Google and android actually encourage the use of the open source for development.
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A few corrections to your post:
1) Apple just made it against the law to jailbreak your iPhone
2) It is a violation of your cell service contract to root your Android
3) The low level drivers are not open source
4) Open-source is what Google decides it means.
5) Google is known for making up their own rules
example: "We at Google value your privacy" = "Give us your personal information so we can make money by giving it away to strangers"
In that context, "value" = it's valuable to Google to make money off it.
bthorne79 said:
And you should be able to still purchase through the play store with out the use of Google wallet
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Wrong.
To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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bthorne79 said:
To correct you jailbreak is not illegal but carrier UNLOCKING is
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5) Google is known for making up their own rules
Don't use a smart phone, issue solved. Do the other options not work without Google Wallet, bill to carrier, enter card info?
If you can use a gift card you're technically not forced to use Google Wallet
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Thank you and yes they work bill to your phone company goes right on your bill
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I don't see the problem here. When was the last time anyone read the EULA? There are no rights anywhere... just a false sense of security.
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Email from Google about Wallet

Received an email from Google yesterday that on "April 14, 2014, tap and pay will no longer work for devices with Android versions older than 4.4 Kit Kat.
worthless imo to start with
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rsswga said:
worthless imo to start with
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Google wallet has its uses.
Biggest thing I like about it is it really tells the retailer to bill through Google.
Useful for when people stole all that credit card information from target. Let's say you only used Google wallet at target. Then all the thieves would see is a Google account you used, not your actual credit card information.
As long as you trust Google with your credit card (which can also be debatable), then it is pretty safe. It's better to use in all instances because retailers never get a look at your credit card information.
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Visa certified

So they will soon release NFC payments here in Norway, but only for Visa certified phones. The list on the app's website only lists
Samsung Galaxy S3 3G
Samsung Galaxy S4 4G+
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
Samsung Galaxy S3 4G
Samsung Galaxy S4 4G
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Sony Xperia Z1
Sony Xperia Z2
HTC One
HTC One (M8)
LG G3
While the actual Visa site lists hundreds. Curiously though, no Nexus 5 among the vast amount of other LG phones.
https://technologypartner.visa.com/Download.aspx?id=188
Any ideas why the Nexus 5 would be left out?
I've been in contact with Google
Google said:
Thank you for contacting Google. At this time, I can not answer as to why the Nexus 5 did not meet Visa's certification process. This certification testing is requested by the manufacturers of the mobile device. It may be that LG has not applied for certification of this device or it may have not met Visa's certification requirements.
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So I contacted LG
LG said:
I have spoken with our technical team here and they have informed me that this would need to be taken up with Google as it is a google phone so they would need to apply for certification
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And contacted Google again, who gave a useless answer
Google said:
I can confirm that The Google Wallet app is available to US users. Therefore, at this time, tap and pay functionality is only supported on US-based devices.
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And more useless answers
Google said:
I suggest you to contact Visa again with regards to Visa Certification for the Nexus 5.
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It's up to the handset maker to submit for testing. I informed them of this, and they escalated it....
Google said:
I can confirm you that we have no information about Visa Certification for Nexus 5.
More information about Google Wallet NFC payments in the US at the following link
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/1347934?hl=en
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So they confirm they have no idea!
NFC payments are NFC payments. Google Wallet NFC payments are Google Wallet NFC payments. I don't think the device actually matters.
I don't know why they keep on referring me to Wallet, as I was clear that I was not from the US!
Got one more final, and useless reply from Google
Google said:
Google doesn't provide Visa Testing Services for his devices and has no agreements with Visa about Visa's testing and approval processes that must be completed before the devices are sold.
I am sorry I can't help any further on this.
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That's after I told them they are supposed to send handsets to Visa for certification.
Well, LG is the manufacturer, they are shifting it to google for no good reason. It was sold to many people around the world from them, not google. I guess if it came from the play store it might make sense, maybe?
Instead of dealing with the hassle maybe try to hack it to work for you.
Still trying to find where the outside of my phone says google
I tried using Market Downloader to download the app, but it didn't work - maybe because I have to fake carrier and phone.
You can see above, that I tried to contact LG - but they were very adamant it was not up to them!
We are finally getting mobile NFC payments in our bank and one of the requirements is to have a "Visa Certified" phone. Unfortunately it seems the Google (LG) D820/D821 Nexus 5 is not on the list.
Does you know why it hasn't been submitted for certification?
I found the list of certified phones here:
https://technologypartner.visa.com/Download.aspx?id=188
12:42:51 PM [efpob] most other LG phones seem to be there
12:44:41 PM [LG Support] this is something that you would need to talk to google about
12:45:03 PM [efpob] but isn't it LG who makes the phone?
12:45:55 PM [LG Support] yes but it is google who deal with the soft ware and certificates on the phone
12:46:28 PM [efpob] I sent a message to google support
12:46:31 PM [efpob] they said
12:46:32 PM [efpob] Thank you for contacting Google. At this time, I can not answer as to why the Nexus 5 did not meet Visa's certification process. This certification testing is requested by the manufacturers of the mobile device. It may be that LG has not applied for certification of this device or it may have not met Visa's certification requirements.
12:49:47 PM [LG Support] I have spoken with several people and they have informed me the same thing that it is an issue with google as all of the software on the phone is googles. LG simply put the hardware of the phone together
12:51:06 PM [efpob] and Google say it is the manufacturers, LG, that have the responsibility. Which means, I'm stuck in the middle, with no way of getting this resolved
12:52:05 PM [LG Support] As far as I am aware as this is something that relates to software you would need to speak to google. I have a number for them if you would like
12:52:24 PM [efpob] This is not software, this is a hardware certification process
12:54:38 PM [LG Support] I have spoken with our technical team here and they have informed me that this would need to be taken up with Google as it is a google phone so they would need to apply for certification
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Not blaming you, you did try to get it working. What LG are doing is denying their end and google doing the same. LG have their own site with their own factory images, as they are manufacturer of the phone. Google are acting like they have nothing to do with it.
Maybe if you tweak the build.prop to read G2 you can get it? Nope not on the list. Either way, doubt LG or Google customer support can help.
Hate to say it but this is not just a tech choice, it involves banks and politics.
What exactly are the policies they are relying on? Could be something you actually don't want. I am babbling aloud again. Good luck
It does sound more and more like it was a political choice. Google probably wanted all merchants to accept Google Wallet, which meant that being Visa certified would be detrimental to Wallet's market penetration.
Maybe similar to CVS refusing Apple Pay so they can force their own solution on users!
Answer from Valyou
Hello,
I was i contact with Valyou a while back to try to get some information.
what i got is :
Valyou begins with the phones that have the highest penetration in the market. Therefore we start with Samsung, but there will be more and more models during this year. Hopefully the Nexus be one of those, and we have already started testing.
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During the next year, all NFC phones should be certified and ready for Valyou.
I hope that's true! I was told only Visa certified phones would be enabled for Valyou, hopefully they have changed their minds!!
Although looking at the adoption of NFC payments in Norway, there's no rush
Just need BankXccept to get into the game; all the food shops are whining about the higher fees Visa charges per transaction, so refuse to enable NFC payments.

Samsung Pay UK

Hey guys.
Haven't posted on XDA in a while but thought I'd potentially start a discussion in regards to Samsung Pay here in the UK.
I emailed Samsung about the fact in which they announced the UK as a 2016 expansion location for Samsung Pay. They have released the service to a multitude of countries that were not actually on the expansion list before bringing it to the UK (which they still have not done).
Here was the response I got:
Following your email, I can confirm Samsung UK Pay is currently not available in the UK. Samsung Pay is currently in the testing phases, please continue to check our Samsung UK website and social sites for further news and updates.
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While I already knew it was not available, could this be an indication of them 'testing' it in the country?
I have also noticed a random Lloyds Bank URL with 'Samsungpay' in it. (It says nothing about it on the actual page, just some random terms: https://islands.lloydsbank.com/samsungpay/)
I have actually prevented myself from rooting my phone just to wait for this and am disappointed it has not been released yet. I know it may sound stupid but if I rooted and then it was released I'd be gutted!
What do you think fellow brits? :good:
Im the same as you, been/still waiting for it....Thanks for the info.
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And Halifax
http://www.halifax.co.uk/helpcentre/samsung-pay/
It's currently a testing page which is exactly what they had before Android pay was released.
tinker_tf said:
And Halifax
http://www.halifax.co.uk/helpcentre/samsung-pay/
It's currently a testing page which is exactly what they had before Android pay was released.
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Nice find! So it looks like we will be getting it soon
Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
liam_davenport said:
Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
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I kind of have that with Android Pay I just think Sammy Pay looks so sleek and because it's accepted everywhere, I'm still excited for it!
I heard rumors that they were going to leave out MST payments in the UK which I think would be pointless, if that was the case I'd stick with Android Pay!
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I kind of have that with Android Pay I just think Sammy Pay looks so sleek and because it's accepted everywhere, I'm still excited for it!
I heard rumors that they were going to leave out MST payments in the UK which I think would be pointless, if that was the case I'd stick with Android Pay!
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Where is Android Pay not accepted? I just use it at any random NFC terminal and it's worked fine, so far....?
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Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
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Same lol. My Natwest card is always on me. Slap that on the terminal and I'm done. Sometimes I don't want to pull a phone out.
skezza said:
Where is Android Pay not accepted? I just use it at any random NFC terminal and it's worked fine, so far....?
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To be honest, I haven't tried it anywhere that isn't listed as supported on the Android Pay website
I've used it at the BP garage, Co op, Cafe Nero etc.
I thought the retailer had to officially support it (much like apple pay) but maybe not!
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Same lol. My Natwest card is always on me. Slap that on the terminal and I'm done. Sometimes I don't want to pull a phone out.
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I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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Agreed
apprentice said:
I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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Well i kind off disagree here, too late for me btw cause is knox 0x1 xd, but going back to the topic, samsung pay take the advantage of using the phone at the terminals without contactless, so u can probably use it just anywhere, hence how it can compete with android pay! i am using android pay everyday, rather than havin to open my wallet
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Well i kind off disagree here, too late for me btw cause is knox 0x1 xd, but going back to the topic, samsung pay take the advantage of using the phone at the terminals without contactless, so u can probably use it just anywhere, hence how it can compete with android pay! i am using android pay everyday, rather than havin to open my wallet
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I don't even use a wallet lool. Too much to lose at one time if it goes missing.
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I don't even use a wallet lool. Too much to lose at one time if it goes missing.
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haha yeah true... i would be totally f... if i was gonna loose one xd.
I've been waiting for Samsung Pay since last year when I bought my S6. I haven't rooted either my S6 or S7 Edge in the hope that Samsung Pay would finally arrive. Typically it's taking so long that I've almost given in and rooted the f*ck out of it!
If they don't support MST in the UK, they might as well not release Samsung Pay here!
Has anyone used Barclays' contactless mobile app? I much prefer that to Android Pay.
I'm in the US and flashed UK because I had Egypt, I thought UK was supported and went ahead and flashed. Its pissing me off that Samsung said UK would be first after US and S Korea but now there are almost 10 countries and they still haven't released it. I doubt its the banks since those links prove their waiting for it. I don't want to flash again because I like the UK Rom most (updates faster, more features etc.) Samsung better release it this month or early December, if they don't in 2016 I'm gonna ****ing riot. Also it better support MST because here in the US very few stores have NFC.
It's really strange that it hasn't been released in the UK. Really odd

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