So they will soon release NFC payments here in Norway, but only for Visa certified phones. The list on the app's website only lists
Samsung Galaxy S3 3G
Samsung Galaxy S4 4G+
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini
Samsung Galaxy S3 4G
Samsung Galaxy S4 4G
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Sony Xperia Z1
Sony Xperia Z2
HTC One
HTC One (M8)
LG G3
While the actual Visa site lists hundreds. Curiously though, no Nexus 5 among the vast amount of other LG phones.
https://technologypartner.visa.com/Download.aspx?id=188
Any ideas why the Nexus 5 would be left out?
I've been in contact with Google
Google said:
Thank you for contacting Google. At this time, I can not answer as to why the Nexus 5 did not meet Visa's certification process. This certification testing is requested by the manufacturers of the mobile device. It may be that LG has not applied for certification of this device or it may have not met Visa's certification requirements.
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So I contacted LG
LG said:
I have spoken with our technical team here and they have informed me that this would need to be taken up with Google as it is a google phone so they would need to apply for certification
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And contacted Google again, who gave a useless answer
Google said:
I can confirm that The Google Wallet app is available to US users. Therefore, at this time, tap and pay functionality is only supported on US-based devices.
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And more useless answers
Google said:
I suggest you to contact Visa again with regards to Visa Certification for the Nexus 5.
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It's up to the handset maker to submit for testing. I informed them of this, and they escalated it....
Google said:
I can confirm you that we have no information about Visa Certification for Nexus 5.
More information about Google Wallet NFC payments in the US at the following link
https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/1347934?hl=en
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So they confirm they have no idea!
NFC payments are NFC payments. Google Wallet NFC payments are Google Wallet NFC payments. I don't think the device actually matters.
I don't know why they keep on referring me to Wallet, as I was clear that I was not from the US!
Got one more final, and useless reply from Google
Google said:
Google doesn't provide Visa Testing Services for his devices and has no agreements with Visa about Visa's testing and approval processes that must be completed before the devices are sold.
I am sorry I can't help any further on this.
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That's after I told them they are supposed to send handsets to Visa for certification.
Well, LG is the manufacturer, they are shifting it to google for no good reason. It was sold to many people around the world from them, not google. I guess if it came from the play store it might make sense, maybe?
Instead of dealing with the hassle maybe try to hack it to work for you.
Still trying to find where the outside of my phone says google
I tried using Market Downloader to download the app, but it didn't work - maybe because I have to fake carrier and phone.
You can see above, that I tried to contact LG - but they were very adamant it was not up to them!
We are finally getting mobile NFC payments in our bank and one of the requirements is to have a "Visa Certified" phone. Unfortunately it seems the Google (LG) D820/D821 Nexus 5 is not on the list.
Does you know why it hasn't been submitted for certification?
I found the list of certified phones here:
https://technologypartner.visa.com/Download.aspx?id=188
12:42:51 PM [efpob] most other LG phones seem to be there
12:44:41 PM [LG Support] this is something that you would need to talk to google about
12:45:03 PM [efpob] but isn't it LG who makes the phone?
12:45:55 PM [LG Support] yes but it is google who deal with the soft ware and certificates on the phone
12:46:28 PM [efpob] I sent a message to google support
12:46:31 PM [efpob] they said
12:46:32 PM [efpob] Thank you for contacting Google. At this time, I can not answer as to why the Nexus 5 did not meet Visa's certification process. This certification testing is requested by the manufacturers of the mobile device. It may be that LG has not applied for certification of this device or it may have not met Visa's certification requirements.
12:49:47 PM [LG Support] I have spoken with several people and they have informed me the same thing that it is an issue with google as all of the software on the phone is googles. LG simply put the hardware of the phone together
12:51:06 PM [efpob] and Google say it is the manufacturers, LG, that have the responsibility. Which means, I'm stuck in the middle, with no way of getting this resolved
12:52:05 PM [LG Support] As far as I am aware as this is something that relates to software you would need to speak to google. I have a number for them if you would like
12:52:24 PM [efpob] This is not software, this is a hardware certification process
12:54:38 PM [LG Support] I have spoken with our technical team here and they have informed me that this would need to be taken up with Google as it is a google phone so they would need to apply for certification
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Not blaming you, you did try to get it working. What LG are doing is denying their end and google doing the same. LG have their own site with their own factory images, as they are manufacturer of the phone. Google are acting like they have nothing to do with it.
Maybe if you tweak the build.prop to read G2 you can get it? Nope not on the list. Either way, doubt LG or Google customer support can help.
Hate to say it but this is not just a tech choice, it involves banks and politics.
What exactly are the policies they are relying on? Could be something you actually don't want. I am babbling aloud again. Good luck
It does sound more and more like it was a political choice. Google probably wanted all merchants to accept Google Wallet, which meant that being Visa certified would be detrimental to Wallet's market penetration.
Maybe similar to CVS refusing Apple Pay so they can force their own solution on users!
Answer from Valyou
Hello,
I was i contact with Valyou a while back to try to get some information.
what i got is :
Valyou begins with the phones that have the highest penetration in the market. Therefore we start with Samsung, but there will be more and more models during this year. Hopefully the Nexus be one of those, and we have already started testing.
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During the next year, all NFC phones should be certified and ready for Valyou.
I hope that's true! I was told only Visa certified phones would be enabled for Valyou, hopefully they have changed their minds!!
Although looking at the adoption of NFC payments in Norway, there's no rush
Just need BankXccept to get into the game; all the food shops are whining about the higher fees Visa charges per transaction, so refuse to enable NFC payments.
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Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?
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Anyone knows if at&t will enable this feature?
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Yes and no. They are supposed to be rolling out their own NFC payment system (ISIS) "soon" but continue to block the use of Google Wallet. So as of now, probably not likely anytime soon unless we get root for the S4 and are able to tweak Google Wallet to work.
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I called Att the rep told me it will work. But then again he had no idea what I was talking about and be to talk to 3 people
visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.
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visa setup a deal with samsung in that they will provide the base functionality (which cannot be restricted by your carrier). I believe it is called paywave. I believe another piece of the puzzle is your financial institution, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in setting this up vs back-office hookups like google wallet.
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The bank first has to allow NFC to access your visa account to withdraw the money.
second, they need a mechanizism in place to process and solve conflicts.
Banks are rolling out this option but until this year there were a few phone and/or users that had NFC. By the 3rd quarter we should see banks offering the option as banks switch more and more from the tradional teller services to online services.
I think as long as you have a visa card you should be able to use the paywave.
As of right now on my SkyRocket im using CM10 and their SimplyTapp app. It works great at most BP Gas Stations and McDonalds to pay Via NFC. Hopefully the Visa Paywave technology will work with more vendors that have NFC at the Checkout.
Where did you get the app ?
Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!
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Well I got the phone, but i don't see it installed, nor is it on google play. Also google wallet says in compatible with your device. LAMEE ! ! !!
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Only sprint allows google wallet (out of the major carriers) in the US.
Received an email from Google yesterday that on "April 14, 2014, tap and pay will no longer work for devices with Android versions older than 4.4 Kit Kat.
worthless imo to start with
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rsswga said:
worthless imo to start with
sent from a violated S3
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Google wallet has its uses.
Biggest thing I like about it is it really tells the retailer to bill through Google.
Useful for when people stole all that credit card information from target. Let's say you only used Google wallet at target. Then all the thieves would see is a Google account you used, not your actual credit card information.
As long as you trust Google with your credit card (which can also be debatable), then it is pretty safe. It's better to use in all instances because retailers never get a look at your credit card information.
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HI N5 community!
So I want to get one of these since my S4 is broken and pretty much done for. Now I just have one issue.
My dad is willing to buy the Nexus 5, but he lives in Oman and I live in Canada. So I tried sending him the link for the Nexus 5 on the Google Play Store, but it said it was not available in his country. He is just paying for it, and it will be sent to Canada which I'm sure Google has available in. Can anyone help me? He is paying by credit card if that helps and he wants to buy it but the site won't let him. Does anyone know ways to maybe trick Google into thinking he's in Canada so he can purchase it, or maybe even an alternative site to buy a 32GB Black Nexus 5? Thanks all!
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HI N5 community!
So I want to get one of these since my S4 is broken and pretty much done for. Now I just have one issue.
My dad is willing to buy the Nexus 5, but he lives in Oman and I live in Canada. So I tried sending him the link for the Nexus 5 on the Google Play Store, but it said it was not available in his country. He is just paying for it, and it will be sent to Canada which I'm sure Google has available in. Can anyone help me? He is paying by credit card if that helps and he wants to buy it but the site won't let him. Does anyone know ways to maybe trick Google into thinking he's in Canada so he can purchase it, or maybe even an alternative site to buy a 32GB Black Nexus 5? Thanks all!
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Ask him to give you the credit card information then you order it - or alternatively he could try proxy browsing on a .ca proxy if he knows enough about PC's to set it up (and if Google can be fooled by this method)
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Ask him to give you the credit card information then you order it - or alternatively he could try proxy browsing on a .ca proxy if he knows enough about PC's to set it up (and if Google can be fooled by this method)
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Well I don't think he wants to give the information over the internet, so that is a definite no-no. Do you know any proxy's that might work? Thanks for the reply!!
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Well I don't think he wants to give the information over the internet, so that is a definite no-no. Do you know any proxy's that might work? Thanks for the reply!!
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Well you can ask him to stagger the information in various ways, one section by Email another by Text and rest by call etc -
Not to up to date with proxy stuff recently so not sure I'm afraid
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Well I don't think he wants to give the information over the internet, so that is a definite no-no. Do you know any proxy's that might work? Thanks for the reply!!
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N5 is available in Oman in many mobile shops (out of google play store)
@AmmVid, it might make sense for you yourself to purchase the phone in Canada either from a store or online. It is not because a phone bought in Oman won't work in Canada, but, rather, because it will be easier to obtain a warranty and, if need be, to have the device serviced or replaced. The funds easily could be sent to you by your father using PayPal.
Use hotspot shield app, it worked for me and I could access the nexus 5 page on the play store from UAE where it isn't available officially.
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Delete please
Also, to put the two biggest sources of information together, here's a link tot eh tween from Will Graylin
"soon to be down loadable on Google Play for Verizon customers. Hoping in the next week or so."
https://twitter.com/wgraylin/status/648896346297004033
(Thanks SwordOfWar for the link)
JTidler said:
Hey,
I am posting on my note 5 from work. I just got an announcement to inform customers who call about samsung pay to inform them to check play store, if it is not available say to try android pay. And if a customer calls about a samsung pay problem give them the support number for Samsung pay, after checking for an Ota update.
If a customer calls angry about not having samsung pay I am supposed to apologize and direct you to the play store.
I will be uploading a picture of the announcement when I get home.
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Is this okay to quote you and link to this thread? I'm thinking about making a blog post about this. I just didn't want to get you in trouble with your boss
Thanks so much for giving us access to this info!
What about this?
Yeah, but their website also continued to say that the non-fast wireless charger worked with the note5 and s6e+. I think their website is a bit slow, especially at tweaking a more nuanced detail.
It is coming, maybe? How did this solve anything? Lol
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Hey guys.
Haven't posted on XDA in a while but thought I'd potentially start a discussion in regards to Samsung Pay here in the UK.
I emailed Samsung about the fact in which they announced the UK as a 2016 expansion location for Samsung Pay. They have released the service to a multitude of countries that were not actually on the expansion list before bringing it to the UK (which they still have not done).
Here was the response I got:
Following your email, I can confirm Samsung UK Pay is currently not available in the UK. Samsung Pay is currently in the testing phases, please continue to check our Samsung UK website and social sites for further news and updates.
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While I already knew it was not available, could this be an indication of them 'testing' it in the country?
I have also noticed a random Lloyds Bank URL with 'Samsungpay' in it. (It says nothing about it on the actual page, just some random terms: https://islands.lloydsbank.com/samsungpay/)
I have actually prevented myself from rooting my phone just to wait for this and am disappointed it has not been released yet. I know it may sound stupid but if I rooted and then it was released I'd be gutted!
What do you think fellow brits? :good:
Im the same as you, been/still waiting for it....Thanks for the info.
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And Halifax
http://www.halifax.co.uk/helpcentre/samsung-pay/
It's currently a testing page which is exactly what they had before Android pay was released.
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And Halifax
http://www.halifax.co.uk/helpcentre/samsung-pay/
It's currently a testing page which is exactly what they had before Android pay was released.
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Nice find! So it looks like we will be getting it soon
Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
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Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
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I kind of have that with Android Pay I just think Sammy Pay looks so sleek and because it's accepted everywhere, I'm still excited for it!
I heard rumors that they were going to leave out MST payments in the UK which I think would be pointless, if that was the case I'd stick with Android Pay!
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I kind of have that with Android Pay I just think Sammy Pay looks so sleek and because it's accepted everywhere, I'm still excited for it!
I heard rumors that they were going to leave out MST payments in the UK which I think would be pointless, if that was the case I'd stick with Android Pay!
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Where is Android Pay not accepted? I just use it at any random NFC terminal and it's worked fine, so far....?
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Should be before end of the year :good: but the novelty wears off and you end up just pulling your card out and using contactless :laugh:
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Same lol. My Natwest card is always on me. Slap that on the terminal and I'm done. Sometimes I don't want to pull a phone out.
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Where is Android Pay not accepted? I just use it at any random NFC terminal and it's worked fine, so far....?
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To be honest, I haven't tried it anywhere that isn't listed as supported on the Android Pay website
I've used it at the BP garage, Co op, Cafe Nero etc.
I thought the retailer had to officially support it (much like apple pay) but maybe not!
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Same lol. My Natwest card is always on me. Slap that on the terminal and I'm done. Sometimes I don't want to pull a phone out.
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I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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Agreed
apprentice said:
I have only used Android Pay to either take advantage of a special offer or when I have forgotten my debit card. Otherwise contactless is so effortless. I am not sure how Samsung Pay can compete with Android Pay in the UK. We are more chip & PIN or contactless here than many other countries. Our debit cards are definitely more convenient.
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Well i kind off disagree here, too late for me btw cause is knox 0x1 xd, but going back to the topic, samsung pay take the advantage of using the phone at the terminals without contactless, so u can probably use it just anywhere, hence how it can compete with android pay! i am using android pay everyday, rather than havin to open my wallet
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Well i kind off disagree here, too late for me btw cause is knox 0x1 xd, but going back to the topic, samsung pay take the advantage of using the phone at the terminals without contactless, so u can probably use it just anywhere, hence how it can compete with android pay! i am using android pay everyday, rather than havin to open my wallet
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I don't even use a wallet lool. Too much to lose at one time if it goes missing.
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I don't even use a wallet lool. Too much to lose at one time if it goes missing.
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haha yeah true... i would be totally f... if i was gonna loose one xd.
I've been waiting for Samsung Pay since last year when I bought my S6. I haven't rooted either my S6 or S7 Edge in the hope that Samsung Pay would finally arrive. Typically it's taking so long that I've almost given in and rooted the f*ck out of it!
If they don't support MST in the UK, they might as well not release Samsung Pay here!
Has anyone used Barclays' contactless mobile app? I much prefer that to Android Pay.
I'm in the US and flashed UK because I had Egypt, I thought UK was supported and went ahead and flashed. Its pissing me off that Samsung said UK would be first after US and S Korea but now there are almost 10 countries and they still haven't released it. I doubt its the banks since those links prove their waiting for it. I don't want to flash again because I like the UK Rom most (updates faster, more features etc.) Samsung better release it this month or early December, if they don't in 2016 I'm gonna ****ing riot. Also it better support MST because here in the US very few stores have NFC.
It's really strange that it hasn't been released in the UK. Really odd