So.. Yesterday rc1 was posted and today there is a new nightly... So.. Is rc1 now out of date or does it contain all the goodness of 05_09? And what about future nightlies and rc1? Will there be rc2, rc3 etc as more nightlies are released?
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RC1 is the first release candidate. The nightlies are still experimental and could be unstable. There might be an RC2, but it could also end up that there won't be another RC and that it will be released as the Stable version. I don't think anyone has a real answer to that.
Stay with the stable release
Nightlies are everyday or every compilation progress reports. If something goes wrong it is easily traceable by the nightlies released almost daily to pinpoint the source of the change that caused the issue and go back and take a look at it. That is how various developers from all across the world are able to contribute to the same code, and stay on track.
They also have a changelog associated with them which tells you exactly what changed between the newly released one and the older one.
Release candidate is a milestone. They might have 2 or 3 planned before the actual “stable release” but it all depends on the allocation of their time and resources. They might not get to perfecting everything the way certain developers want it and when the time comes for the final release it might just jump from RC1 to a stable release with nothing in between but nightlies. And you will still see a couple of nightlies after a stable release too.
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What is the purpose of a nightly (high frequency of updates) build?
I'm currently using AmeriCanAndroid AOSP HD2 GB233 CM7, but used to use HD2ONE v3.6.
Apart from rapid updates, why not just release something monthly that might not have as many bugs as the nightly release? HD2ONE seemed stable enough, less the bluetooth, but a good deal of updates form AmiCanAndroid seem to need special tweaking.
I'm not entirely new here. I've been using android on my HD2 for a while and pretty much understand how to get myself up and running. So I'm trying to post for access to the developers forum, but with some legitimate questions here in the Q&A...
Nightly builds are just a progression of the development process from one Release Candidate to the next. It's a way of incorporating and then testing new fixes and features as they become available.
not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
kyhassen said:
not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
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I'm a sense guy,so not much exp. with cm. My foggy memory believes that cm7(rc for release canidate) is ready for everyday use public consumption. Nightlies are built by(here's where my memory goes! Gimme a break I'm old!) a bot which fixes and changes things,which may or may not break other things. That about the extent of my knowledge on this. The experts on this should be on they're way. lol
I'm no expert but the cm7 stable is android 2.3.3 the cm7 rc-1 is 2.3.4 the latest nightlies are 2.3.5.. I recommend the nightlies, they are more stable in many ways than the stable version of.. The latest is #179
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This is standard software development stuff.
"Nightlies" are like alpha level software containing the absolute latest bug fixes and new features for an existing program with little or no testing outside of the developers. Whether the various features and fixes are compiled by a daemon or not is irrelevant. Some nightlies are very stable with few bugs, some are bug riddled garbage. I'm currently using the CM7 nightly from 9-1, and I've found it to be very stable and only had one or two small issues.
The experimental releases are release candidates, which is just a friendly term for a late stage beta. Generally, they may contain more bugs than what should be released, but the developers released them into the wild because they believed the to be close to ready for release and needed more people would test them.
A Stable version is just that, stable. It has been extensively tested and either has no bugs, or has only minor bugs that have all been well documented.
Which should you use?
You've got a few sensible options.
a. Stick to stable releases. You'll miss out on the latest and greatest developments, but your shift will be as stable and reliable as possible.
b. Install every nightly as they come out. (they don't actually come out every night, we haven't had a new one since 9-1) If you get a bad one, which happens, just roll back to the last one that worked for you. You will spend a lot of time messing with your phone and will have to deal with bugs, but you'll always get to try out the latest and greatest. Just be sure that when you have bugs, you share useful bug reports with the developers.
c. Start with the stable. If you find there are things broken that you don't want to miss, go through the changelogs and forums to find a more or less stable nightly that has what you're missing and move to it. Stay there until there's another stable release.
wow thank you guys for the usefull information. I'm normally a sense rom guy so this is kinda a new ball game for me. I decided to go with this due to I hear its way faster and has more space .
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Just wondering when we will we be able to see an official "stable" built because i feel the nightly builts are very stable now. Or is cm10 still not there yet to the devs?
You could say they're probably close to RC builds, they have released the M builds which have been stable ones as well but only after the kinks are taken out then RC can be on the roll and not to mention maybe this week there will be more dumps for AOSP so you may be seeing more updates so it'll be back on the grind
https://github.com/cyanogenmod/android_vendor_cm/commit/c35e7a64f98b1df5fa51eb5a27964a376bfc5d1a
cm: Prepare for release
Shouldn't ask these types of questions. When they are you will see a RC or actually release.
Just a quick question. The stable CM10 for our vzd2w devices is dated for 11-13-2012. I feel I should know this, but I am wondering, are the nightlies, say, for today, 12-08 more stable than the stable candidate released almost a month ago?
Is that the point of nightlies? To fix bugs and improve anything on previous candidates?
Do nightlies sometimes present with new issues/bugs?
Again, I know I should know this, but I NEED clarification as a search of any kind leads me to the nightly download site or ROMs based on the nightly releases. These questions are not addressed.
Thanks for your replies!!
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Just a quick question. The stable CM10 for our vzd2w devices is dated for 11-13-2012. I feel I should know this, but I am wondering, are the nightlies, say, for today, 12-08 more stable than the stable candidate released almost a month ago?
Is that the point of nightlies? To fix bugs and improve anything on previous candidates?
Do nightlies sometimes present with new issues/bugs?
Again, I know I should know this, but I NEED clarification as a search of any kind leads me to the nightly download site or ROMs based on the nightly releases. These questions are not addressed.
Thanks for your replies!!
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In general the nightlies are completely usable. They are used as a means for the cm10 team to test new features, and attempt to squash bugs. With software development when changes are made it is not uncommon for new and unforseen bugs to arise, its sort of a game of cat and mouse. Because of this, every so often things that had worked fine previously become broken in one nightly and are then promptly fixed in the next. For the last month or more the cm10 nightly builds have suffered from a host of bluetooth, microphone, nfc, and screen wake issues that seem to vary in severity from one nightly to the next. Some of these problems have been found to have flashable fixes, others do not. For many, myself included, this is the simply the price of being on the cutting edge of Android development. If this doesn't sound appealing then perhaps the stable builds are the way to go. Keep in mind that although the stable builds tend to be more reliable, they do have their fair share of bugs and glitches, some of which have since been sorted out on the nightlies. Either way cm10 is a far slicker experience than touchwiz, and in my opinion, the way to go. Just an fyi, I have dirty flashed one nightly to the next without incident, and if thats the route you decide to go it could save you some time.
i think stable is better... nightlies can work or not, so hit and miss....
I have personally never had a problem with the CM10 nightlies, and I have been using them for a couple of weeks now. But your experience may vary depending on your setup.
Good rule of thumb is if you're not prepared to deal with any issues that could arise then stick with stable. I always seem to have a few builds on my SD card and a titanium backup in case things really go sideways on me.
It depends on what your priorities are with this phone. For example the same 11/10 nightly was the last one without the bluetooth low bass bug, but but the 12/06 and newer nightlies have improved data drops for a bunch of people. If you rely on mobile data a lot the 12/08 nightly might be the one for you to try, but if you do a lot of bluetooth streaming then maybe the 11/10 nightly would work best for you.
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I switch from ICS to CM10 nightlies, which was for the most part a great daily driver. Then I flashed the new Jellybean leak and battery life was great (50% more than CM10) but I lost bluetooth. Last CM10 I used was in mid October. Has the battery life improved in the last 2 months?
Hi all,
I first installed cm-10.1.3-xt897 since it is the latest stable release on CyanogenMod official xt897 downloads page. My main reasons for using CM are stockness and customization, and stability is a must so I generally stick to the stable releases.
However, cm-10.1.3-xt897 seems to suffer from frequent freezes lasting 5-10 seconds in landscape mode (unless HW overlays were disabled). So I decided to try cm-10.2-20131102-SNAPSHOT-M1 instead, and it seems to have resolved that specific issue, and I haven't encountered any other serious issues affecting my usage patterns with it.
Now, I had expected that my next upgrade would be to cm-10.2 stable, but I've noticed that no RCs or stables have been released for xt897, and the nightlies have jumped to CM11. Is a cm-10.2 stable release still a possibility?
If not, what is the reasoning for that? For me cm-10.2(M1) seems to work much better than the current stable release (CM 10.1.3), so it doesn't seem to make sense to not release a stable CM 10.2. Unless of course there are notable regressions from CM 10.1.3 that I'm just not seeing in my use? (I haven't seen anything in the CM10.2 dev thread, though, but I admit I may have missed it.) Thankfully it is not a huge loss for me, though, as M1 works fine, so I can just continue using it for now.
And if cm-10.2 xt897 stable is still planned, I apologise for my hastiness. (I would have expected nightlies to remain on 10.2 until such a release.)
In any case thanks to all the devs working on this, good to have a qwerty android phone running a decent firmware
As far as I have seen, CM has stated they are done developing 10.2 as of 12/5. I don't remember exactly what the difference is between a monthly snapshot and stable, but for my experience with CM since version 7, they don't mean a lot. I've seen issues with "stable" releases and and rock solid nightlies. I'm currently running the skrilax 11/29 nightly and its great. There are apparently still some issues with CM11 so i'm holding off on that for a while.